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Many blacks support murderer of white woman on Charlotte train (JTF video)
Dovid_2:
--- Quote from: Hrvatski Noahid on September 11, 2025, 11:30:29 AM ---Rambam, Laws of Repentance chapter 2, writes that if the person who one offended passes away, one should go to the deceased person's grave and ask forgiveness. Is Rambam an uncircumcised Croatian?
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Here is the relevant paragraph in Rambam:
הַחוֹטֵא לַחֲבֵרוֹ וּמֵת חֲבֵרוֹ קֹדֶם שֶׁיְּבַקֵּשׁ מְחִילָה מֵבִיא עֲשָׂרָה בְּנֵי אָדָם וּמַעֲמִידָן עַל קִבְרוֹ וְיֹאמַר בִּפְנֵיהֶם חָטָאתִי לַה' אֱלֹהֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל וְלִפְלוֹנִי זֶה שֶׁכָּךְ וְכָךְ עָשִׂיתִי לוֹ. וְאִם הָיָה חַיָּב לוֹ מָמוֹן יַחֲזִירוֹ לַיּוֹרְשִׁים. לֹא הָיָה יוֹדֵעַ לוֹ יוֹרְשִׁין יַנִּיחֶנּוּ בְּבֵית דִּין וְיִתְוַדֶּה:
You completely misunderstand the purpose of what the Rambam is prescribing. G-D forbid the Rambam thought that the person is communicating with the dead person at his grave!
This is where your centuries of Christian brainwashing lets you down and you are unable to disassociate bad and mistaken beliefs from the truth. That... and your coarse intellect.
--- Quote ---Your ancestors have the merit of becoming literate before mine. Great. Did you hear the part in the video where Chaim opposes Hebrew in America because the national language is English? My national language is Croatian.
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You leave out the part where Judaism reports that G-D offered the Torah to your ancestors and they rejected it. We accepted it. Tough noogies, those are the breaks -- as Don Rickles used to say.
Hrvatski Noahid:
--- Quote from: Dovid_2 on September 11, 2025, 11:44:05 AM ---Here is the relevant paragraph in Rambam:
הַחוֹטֵא לַחֲבֵרוֹ וּמֵת חֲבֵרוֹ קֹדֶם שֶׁיְּבַקֵּשׁ מְחִילָה מֵבִיא עֲשָׂרָה בְּנֵי אָדָם וּמַעֲמִידָן עַל קִבְרוֹ וְיֹאמַר בִּפְנֵיהֶם חָטָאתִי לַה' אֱלֹהֵי יִשְׂרָאֵל וְלִפְלוֹנִי זֶה שֶׁכָּךְ וְכָךְ עָשִׂיתִי לוֹ. וְאִם הָיָה חַיָּב לוֹ מָמוֹן יַחֲזִירוֹ לַיּוֹרְשִׁים. לֹא הָיָה יוֹדֵעַ לוֹ יוֹרְשִׁין יַנִּיחֶנּוּ בְּבֵית דִּין וְיִתְוַדֶּה:
You completely misunderstand the purpose of what the Rambam is prescribing. G-D forbid the Rambam thought that the person is communicating with the dead person at his grave!
This is where your centuries of Christian brainwashing lets you down and you are unable to disassociate bad and mistaken beliefs from the truth. That... and your coarse intellect.You leave out the part where Judaism reports that G-D offered the Torah to your ancestors and they rejected it. We accepted it. Tough noogies, those are the breaks -- as Don Rickles used to say.
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The purpose is to ask forgiveness from the person's soul, as Rabbi Weiner quotes and explains.
I am happy being a Gentile. I do not have to read Hebrew and I do not want to be a Jewish slave with 613 commandments who cannot eat a cheeseburger. It is honorable to be a slave to God, but it is not for me.
Most Jews respect righteous Gentiles, but you are one of the few with a demonic hatred for Gentiles who left the idolatry of their ancestors.
Dovid_2:
--- Quote from: Hrvatski Noahid on September 11, 2025, 11:54:55 AM ---The purpose is to ask forgiveness from the person's soul, as Rabbi Weiner quotes and explains.
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The son-in-law of Don Astruc Des Gabai, student of Rabbenu Meshulam, disagrees with Rabbi Weiner then. You cannot ask forgiveness from a person's soul. The purpose of the quorum and attendance at the person's grave is to compel the sinner to realize his own mortality. And this is the reason that Geonim generally discourage visiting cemeteries -- because it is damaging to what Aristotle called the "compartments" of the soul (the five compartments are appetitive, nutritive, imaginative, sensitive, and rational). You're expected to understand some basic philosophy in Judaism and not blindly quote from a book for Gentiles -- and especially not at those with far more knowledge of the faith than you!
--- Quote ---I am happy being a Gentile. I do not have to read Hebrew and I do not want to be a Jewish slave with 613 commandments who cannot eat a cheeseburger. It is honorable to be a slave to God, but it is not for me.
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I want to have sex all day but also be able to perceive the Shechinah... Your desire alone does not render the impossible possible. The two are mutually exclusive. In fact, the Student writes that one who is engaged in relations too often has his eyes plastered over so that he is "unable to perceive the Shechinah".
You seem to be happily entrenched with the teachings of Rabbi Weiner and Rabbi Schulman, may G-D grant them a long life. Adept knowledge of halacha does not preclude one from the obligation of acquiring knowledge of G-D. You seem to suggest that this is the case. Enjoy your cheeseburgers.
--- Quote ---Most Jews respect righteous Gentiles, but you are one of the few with a demonic hatred for Gentiles who left the idolatry of their ancestors.
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I hate the kind of Gentile who becomes a complete jerk after becoming a Noahide or converting. I think he would be better off as a person not having done either of those things. And yes, I have met many Gentiles like that. Of course this is going to be the case when we now have our Land. Where were you during the holocaust?
Hrvatski Noahid:
--- Quote from: Dovid_2 on September 11, 2025, 12:11:00 PM --- I hate the kind of Gentile who becomes a complete jerk after becoming a Noahide or converting. I think he would be better off as a person not having done either of those things. And yes, I have met many Gentiles like that. Of course this is going to be the case when we now have our Land. Where were you during the holocaust?
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Where was I during the Holocaust? I was born in 1989, you idiot.
On this forum, you called me a Nazi rat, an uncircumcised Croatian rabbi and a complete jerk. What triggers this demonic hatred? My quotes of Rabbi Weiner and Dr. Schulman.
You are demonic. Seek help.
Chaim Ben Pesach:
בס''ד
What is this? A Jew and a righteous Gentile insulting each other on a public forum - that is certainly forbidden!
Dovid, Hrvatski is very much a righteous Gentile who supports Israel and the Jewish people and who also tells the truth to non-Jews about the need to follow the seven mitzvot of bnei Noach. Even if you disagree with something he writes, you should be praising him for doing what Hashem wants. I am surprised that you allow a disagreement to descend into public insults.
Hrvatski, there are different categories of murder in the Torah. While the Torah calls all of these categories "retzach" (murder), the punishment is drastically different. Just as there are different categories of murder in modern Western law - first degree murder, second degree murder and so on. Intentional murder is bemezid in Torah Judaism and there is no escape from the punishment of the death penalty. Accidental or unintentional murder is beshogeg, such as careless driving or allowing someone to work in dangerous conditions. Only unintentional murderers can escape to designated cities of refuge (arei miklat) to escape revenge killing from the victim's relatives.
Gentiles are NOT required to convert. They are required to follow the seven mitzvot of bnei Noach. In this very evil generation, when someone like Hrvatski decides to become ben Noach and even devotes himself to spreading this important message to others, he should be praised and he will certainly be greatly rewarded by Hashem. The fact that he remains a loyal ben Noach despite occasionally being unfairly attacked makes him even more worthy of praise and reward. Hashem (G-d) loves bnei Noach and their reward will be eternal life in the next world.
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