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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: ✡ Hindu Zionist ॐ on January 28, 2009, 12:56:39 PM
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There is one very important thing i want JTF members to know. There are lot of propaganda stuff going on the Internet which portray the Hindu Nationalist organizations as anti-Semitic and Hindu Nationalist leaders portrayed as Hitlers fans.. example like this: http://bobbyjindalsucks.blogspot.com/ and some on youtube which i do not even want to mention.
Please do not fall for these. The Muzzies and Commies do not want us together,cause they fear us coming together.
To make it clear. Please take time to understand why Hindu Nationalist organisations ought to support the Zionism movements. Here is the ebook. An extensive literary work on the Hindu-Zionist project.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9680428/Hindu-ProZionism-and-PhiloSemitism
There are some other things like the use of Swastika which is not mentioned in the article.
For Hindus Swastika symbol and the Aum symbol are holy. Infact word "Swastika" itself is a Sanskrit word.
We have equally been the victims of this Aryan theory. We see that the Jews have suffered physically and we have suffered intellectually due to this Aryan theory which was floated by Colonialistic rulers.
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Rightous Jews won't fall for the commie/muslim propaganda, we're aware of the divide and conquer tactics of our common enemies; And we won't fall for it because of the foundation of the Jewish - Hindu friendship, we know the true friends that Hindus are to us, and how the Jews in exile in India found 2000 years of peace living amoung the Hindus, something that did not occur anywhere else on earth.
By the way, the man I am supporting for our next President has Indian heritage. Bobby Jindal - Sarah Palin 2012!
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Bah, this is nonsense.
Hindus are as anti-semitic as Chinese and Japanese people.
Their culture and religion has no connection points with Jews and Judaism.
I doubt that Jews are even mentioned in Hindu scriptures. :::D
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Bah, this is nonsense.
Hindus are as anti-semitic as Chinese and Japanese people.
Their culture and religion has no connection points with Jews and Judaism.
I doubt that Jews are even mentioned in Hindu scriptures. :::D
Actually Pheasant, there is a connection, not a religious one, but one of friendship, Jews and Hindus have a long history, the Jews in exile that ended up in India were very lucky, the Hindus befriended the Jews and were wonderful hosts letting the Jews live in peace for 2000 years. Israel and India should become close allys.
Google it, the history of Jews and Hindu's it is fascinating.
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Bah, this is nonsense.
Hindus are as anti-semitic as Chinese and Japanese people.
Their culture and religion has no connection points with Jews and Judaism.
I doubt that Jews are even mentioned in Hindu scriptures. :::D
Actually Pheasant, there is a connection, not a religious one, but one of friendship, Jews and Hindus have a long history, the Jews in exile that ended up in India were very lucky, the Hindus befriended the Jews and were wonderful hosts letting the Jews live in peace for 2000 years. Israel and India should become close allys.
Google it, the history of Jews and Hindu's it is fascinating.
Yes you are right. I knew it.
My point was to show, that there is no ideological struggle between Hindus and Jews.
Somebody could answer that Jews are against idolatry. But on the other hand Jews obviously didn't proselytize. And I am shure, that a Jew makes not a great difference between Hindus and Christians. The Jewish faith and the Jewish power are directed into the community, not towards outside.
I am not shure, but I think Hindus didn't proselytized either in older times and today if they do it is born out of the struggle with Islam.
Christianity came directly from Judaism, so there is on both sides the necessity to argue with the other in order to proof the own believe right.
Islam is not worth an argument, we all know.
I for my part think that there are different economies of G-d, because everything G-d promises to the Jews is logically not able to be unsoldered.
Because Jews are choosen by birth there is only one way for them.
Do you see the Jews for Jesus guys, how they try to keep their Judaism and adopt Christian believe in addition to that. It looks for me unnatural.
I have read the letter to the Galater several times and I think because of this the Jews for Jesus guys didn't fit in the ecclesia neither they have a home in Judaism.
It is a homeless type of people.
I think because of the different origins of their culture and faith, Hindus, Chinise and Japanese people for example are able to see the Jew more without prejudices. So there is caused less trouble.
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Aren't Chrisitians, more or less "Jews for Jesus"? ;D
Those people calling themselves "Jews for Jesus" should just be Christians, they're alienating themselves, you're right, they're homeless, they've put themselves in a category where they make both Jews and Christians unhappy with them.
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Aren't Chrisitians, more or less "Jews for Jesus"? ;D
Those people calling themselves "Jews for Jesus" should just be Christians, they're alienating themselves, you're right, they're homeless, they've put themselves in a category where they make both Jews and Christians unhappy with them.
It is a difficult issue. Because nobody can deny the roots. But in the end I think we have to accept the reality that we are different.
The closest form of Judaim to Christianity is imo Noahidism. But it is obviously not, only very close.
What some churches do is imo inflation of citizenship. It is real Obama policy and the bankcruptcy of intelligence.
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Aren't Chrisitians, more or less "Jews for Jesus"? ;D
Those people calling themselves "Jews for Jesus" should just be Christians, they're alienating themselves, you're right, they're homeless, they've put themselves in a category where they make both Jews and Christians unhappy with them.
It's not hard to figure out why they call themselves that.
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i would like put light on one thing just for info..
The following are the top three most hated Hindu Nationalist leaders by Islamic World today.
1. Narendra Modi (Chief Minister of Indian State of Gujarat and a major leader of BJP)
2. Praveen Togadia (International GS of World Hindu Council)
3. Bal Thackeray (Founder of Shiv Sena a small right wing Hindu political party)
Of these only Bal Thackrey had come close to showing up some anti-semitic feelings but it was in entirely different context, here you can listen to his interview.. this is quite old interview ..about 15 yrs ago
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6rsfr_i-admire-hitler-bal-thackeray_news
rest of the anti-semitic videos on the internet with respect to Hindu Nationalist movement are baseless, devoid of facts, created by muzzies-commies.
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I won't forget the innocent Christians in Orissa and what was done to them by Hindus.
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Aren't Chrisitians, more or less "Jews for Jesus"? ;D
Those people calling themselves "Jews for Jesus" should just be Christians, they're alienating themselves, you're right, they're homeless, they've put themselves in a category where they make both Jews and Christians unhappy with them.
No, Christians are in no way "J4J" because at least the "J4J" believe that they still have to observe the mitzvot of the Torah while Christians say they have no need to obey the written law.
But the whole J4J is crazy because there is nothing in Jewish belief which would yield anyone to believe that Moshiach has already come or is coming back, or whatever.
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I won't forget the innocent Christians in Orissa and what was done to them by Hindus.
the Hindu tribals were hurt after their religion was insulted and their leader was killed by the missionaries. Actually you shouldnt call the CHristians in Orssia as CHristians.. they are not worth being called a Christian.. infact none of the supposedly called Indian Christians are Christians.. cause the Christianity they preach is an insult on the teaching of the bible. And if the Christians of the rest of the world are siding with the Indian CHristians then its a big mistake.
Rubystars you dont have much idea what goes on here in the name of Christianity... I am thinking of going around Churches in Mumbai atleast and take pics of what kind of Christianity is practised here. There are many churches here dedicated to Chrisitian Saint. With Statues of them inside to whom people pray .. the way how Hindus pray their Gods. There is a Church near my place which is called Saint Bonavencher CHurch with idol of him installed ..Indian Christians flock to go there.. when i asked one what is there inside .. she said they are going to take blessings of that Saint. Wow.
Not only Saints are idolized, Even Mary and Jesus are.
Check the following.. This is a very famous place for Indian Chrisitians
http://www.vailankannichurch.org/
Now tell me if you really want to consider them as Christians with biblical belief. Also this particular church generates a lot of heat from Hindus who claim that this place was originally a place with Hindu deity of GOddess Durga which was converted and shown as place of Mother Mary in order to start missionizing.
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the Hindu tribals were hurt after their religion was insulted and their leader was killed by the missionaries.
Their leader was killed by the missionaries? What? Dude, read the news article.
"Last week's violence was largely a backlash against the murder of a Hindu proselytiser who ran a local campaign against Christian conversion. Maoist rebels said they had carried out the murder, but Hindus blamed Christians."
http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-35291320080903
I'm not sure how or why the Christians would insult the Hindu religion. Could you please give more info? Regardless, instead of dealing with it in a civilized manner, they kill and burn down innocent people? Reminds me of anther religion with similar attributes.
Actually you shouldnt call the CHristians in Orssia as CHristians.. they are not worth being called a Christian.. infact none of the supposedly called Indian Christians are Christians.. cause the Christianity they preach is an insult on the teaching of the bible. And if the Christians of the rest of the world are siding with the Indian CHristians then its a big mistake.
Most churches in India are of the Roman Catholic denomination. They dedicate their churches to Saints. It's like that all over the world, not just in India.
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Before Osama war, the agents of EuroCommunism used to openly share the political platforms with Muslonazies against the Indian Nationalists on some filthy pretext or the other. They were on the verge of making it to a global political campaign. Their hapless followers were shocked to the core of their hearts by Talibani reality. They could not believe that their Muslonazi friends could do it to them. Still many of them believe in some inside conspiracy theories.
Anyhow the smart among the EuroCommunism agents overtly changed their tactics and started shaking hands with Left-Extremists. Then the Left-Extremist killers were happy to be paid for their work against Indian Nationalists. Things followed.
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Before Osama war, the agents of EuroCommunism used to openly share the political platforms with Muslonazies against the Indian Nationalists on some filthy pretext or the other. They were on the verge of making it to a global political campaign. Their hapless followers were shocked to the core of their hearts by Talibani reality. They could not believe that their Muslonazi friends could do it to them. Still many of them believe in some inside conspiracy theories.
Anyhow the smart among the EuroCommunism agents overtly changed their tactics and started shaking hands with Left-Extremists. Then the Left-Extremist killers were happy to be paid for their work against Indian Nationalists. Things followed.
Could be true. Do you know anything about why this bolschewist group murdered the Hindu leader?
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Christianity came directly from Judaism, so there is on both sides the necessity to argue with the other in order to proof the own believe right.
This is not true, you got this misconception from videos you watched that were to and for a jewish audience in dealing with christian missionaries or convincing jews that judaism is true.
Historically the pope would order jews to debate.. and if the jew said anything that the pope took offence to , then the jewish community was in grave danger.
Nowadays jews tend to keep themselves to themselves.
Rarely, young jews that don't know what they are doing, listen to some counter-missionary course and get carried away. But they grow a brain eventually.
Islam is not worth an argument, we all know.
I wouldn't say that.
It could be worth beating islammic missionaries in arguments.
If they converted to christianity that would be great. They'd stop killing jews.
You know the son of a hamas leader converted to christianity, it made the news, he was interviewed on Fox, it's on youtube.
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the Hindu tribals were hurt after their religion was insulted and their leader was killed by the missionaries.
Their leader was killed by the missionaries? What? Dude, read the news article.
"Last week's violence was largely a backlash against the murder of a Hindu proselytiser who ran a local campaign against Christian conversion. Maoist rebels said they had carried out the murder, but Hindus blamed Christians."
http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-35291320080903
I'm not sure how or why the Christians would insult the Hindu religion. Could you please give more info? Regardless, instead of dealing with it in a civilized manner, they kill and burn down innocent people? Reminds me of anther religion with similar attributes.
Actually you shouldnt call the CHristians in Orssia as CHristians.. they are not worth being called a Christian.. infact none of the supposedly called Indian Christians are Christians.. cause the Christianity they preach is an insult on the teaching of the bible. And if the Christians of the rest of the world are siding with the Indian CHristians then its a big mistake.
Most churches in India are of the Roman Catholic denomination. They dedicate their churches to Saints. It's like that all over the world, not just in India.
if you still want to call the idol-worshiping Saint Churchists and you have no problem with people idol worshiping of Mary, you are free to call them Roman Catholic, But that would just mean you are against Biblical belief.
yes Maos did kill them, but why would Maos kill a Hindu leader who was vocal against Missionizing? Also the news fails to tell us if Mao's were paid to do some job. The investigation is still going on, we will know who did it in a year or so. But the local tribal population had good local knowledge of who carried out the attacks and thus reacted. Hindus would never hurt Christians or for that matter anybody. If Hindus were aggressive the Islamic rulers would have never ruled over us for 800 years and Colonial Empire for 200 years... They do not react unless anything is really really wrong.
India has lost 40% of its land till now (Indonesia,Pakistan,Bangladesh), The Hindus do not missionzie, and they do not want anyone to missionize to them. If Christians want to missionize it would be better if they do it starting from Islamic Nations. Also people look at your own nations. Try to save USA,UK... Christianity is fast loosing this these countires. THe youth are not taking to Christianity like before. Focus your energies over there, in the Nations which totally belong to you.
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Before Osama war, the agents of EuroCommunism used to openly share the political platforms with Muslonazies against the Indian Nationalists on some filthy pretext or the other. They were on the verge of making it to a global political campaign. Their hapless followers were shocked to the core of their hearts by Talibani reality. They could not believe that their Muslonazi friends could do it to them. Still many of them believe in some inside conspiracy theories.
Anyhow the smart among the EuroCommunism agents overtly changed their tactics and started shaking hands with Left-Extremists. Then the Left-Extremist killers were happy to be paid for their work against Indian Nationalists. Things followed.
Could be true. Do you know anything about why this bolschewist group murdered the Hindu leader?
From the psychological frames of the involved groups and lining up of the events that ensued, the picture can be easily drawn that the Eurocommunists were fed up with the Hindu Saint who was working hard against the conversions especially through the successful re-conversions. To counter this process the Eurocommunists must have encouraged many of the converted to join with the cells of the Extreme Leftist Miaoists. Once they got majority in the cells, they must have been able to influence the local decisions of the local Miaoist leaders through their support and money power. The old Hindu saint was to become a victim.
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Before Osama war, the agents of EuroCommunism used to openly share the political platforms with Muslonazies against the Indian Nationalists on some filthy pretext or the other. They were on the verge of making it to a global political campaign. Their hapless followers were shocked to the core of their hearts by Talibani reality. They could not believe that their Muslonazi friends could do it to them. Still many of them believe in some inside conspiracy theories.
Anyhow the smart among the EuroCommunism agents overtly changed their tactics and started shaking hands with Left-Extremists. Then the Left-Extremist killers were happy to be paid for their work against Indian Nationalists. Things followed.
Could be true. Do you know anything about why this bolschewist group murdered the Hindu leader?
From the psychological frames of the involved groups and lining up of the events that ensued, the picture can be easily drawn that the Eurocommunists were fed up with the Hindu Saint who was working hard against the conversions especially through the successful re-conversions. To counter this process the Eurocommunists must have encouraged many of the converted to join with the cells of the Extreme Leftist Miaoists. Once they got majority in the cells, they must have been able to influence the local decisions of the local Miaoist leaders through their support and money power. The old Hindu saint was to become a victim.
Maoists have murdered at least 50 Million people all around the world, but mainly in China.
Is there really a connection between converted Hindus and the Maoist Bolschewists?
Can you post some sources from the web?
P.S. I didn't think, that proselytizing of Hindus make sense.
Imo there are all sources of Christian believe free on the web. If somebody is choosen to be a Christian he will find them.
I have a secon question: How did the missionaries work in detail?
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I dont even want to talk about Missionaries here, I suppose most of by Jewish friend know about the sinister designs of Missionaries.
If Christians want to Missionize they should do it outside India and outside Israel.
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I'm stand tall with the Hindus,fight against the Nazislam,our common enemy,guys.
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the Hindu tribals were hurt after their religion was insulted and their leader was killed by the missionaries.
Their leader was killed by the missionaries? What? Dude, read the news article.
"Last week's violence was largely a backlash against the murder of a Hindu proselytiser who ran a local campaign against Christian conversion. Maoist rebels said they had carried out the murder, but Hindus blamed Christians."
http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-35291320080903
I'm not sure how or why the Christians would insult the Hindu religion. Could you please give more info? Regardless, instead of dealing with it in a civilized manner, they kill and burn down innocent people? Reminds me of anther religion with similar attributes.
Actually you shouldnt call the CHristians in Orssia as CHristians.. they are not worth being called a Christian.. infact none of the supposedly called Indian Christians are Christians.. cause the Christianity they preach is an insult on the teaching of the bible. And if the Christians of the rest of the world are siding with the Indian CHristians then its a big mistake.
Most churches in India are of the Roman Catholic denomination. They dedicate their churches to Saints. It's like that all over the world, not just in India.
if you still want to call the idol-worshiping Saint Churchists and you have no problem with people idol worshiping of Mary, you are free to call them Roman Catholic, But that would just mean you are against Biblical belief.
yes Maos did kill them, but why would Maos kill a Hindu leader who was vocal against Missionizing? Also the news fails to tell us if Mao's were paid to do some job. The investigation is still going on, we will know who did it in a year or so. But the local tribal population had good local knowledge of who carried out the attacks and thus reacted. Hindus would never hurt Christians or for that matter anybody. If Hindus were aggressive the Islamic rulers would have never ruled over us for 800 years and Colonial Empire for 200 years... They do not react unless anything is really really wrong.
India has lost 40% of its land till now (Indonesia,Pakistan,Bangladesh), The Hindus do not missionzie, and they do not want anyone to missionize to them. If Christians want to missionize it would be better if they do it starting from Islamic Nations. Also people look at your own nations. Try to save USA,UK... Christianity is fast loosing this these countires. THe youth are not taking to Christianity like before. Focus your energies over there, in the Nations which totally belong to you.
I have been trying to bite my tongue here.
Are you calling Christians idol worshipers?
Before you go around speaking with authority about what happens inside of a church, you should inform yourself about that religion. Not from people in the street or by taking pictures of statues. Whether they be statues of Mary, Joseph, or a saint. I do not worship idols. I believe in and worship GOD.
I will not get into an argument with any of you that cannot respect that there are people of the Christian faith that participate in this forum. I have the utmost respect for Chaim Ben Pesach, JTFs goals and the other members of this forum. I also respect the religious beliefs of our many members here. I would expect nothing less from you and the others that continually bash the Christian faith.
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the Hindu tribals were hurt after their religion was insulted and their leader was killed by the missionaries.
Their leader was killed by the missionaries? What? Dude, read the news article.
"Last week's violence was largely a backlash against the murder of a Hindu proselytiser who ran a local campaign against Christian conversion. Maoist rebels said they had carried out the murder, but Hindus blamed Christians."
http://in.reuters.com/article/topNews/idINIndia-35291320080903
I'm not sure how or why the Christians would insult the Hindu religion. Could you please give more info? Regardless, instead of dealing with it in a civilized manner, they kill and burn down innocent people? Reminds me of anther religion with similar attributes.
Actually you shouldnt call the CHristians in Orssia as CHristians.. they are not worth being called a Christian.. infact none of the supposedly called Indian Christians are Christians.. cause the Christianity they preach is an insult on the teaching of the bible. And if the Christians of the rest of the world are siding with the Indian CHristians then its a big mistake.
Most churches in India are of the Roman Catholic denomination. They dedicate their churches to Saints. It's like that all over the world, not just in India.
if you still want to call the idol-worshiping Saint Churchists and you have no problem with people idol worshiping of Mary, you are free to call them Roman Catholic, But that would just mean you are against Biblical belief.
yes Maos did kill them, but why would Maos kill a Hindu leader who was vocal against Missionizing? Also the news fails to tell us if Mao's were paid to do some job. The investigation is still going on, we will know who did it in a year or so. But the local tribal population had good local knowledge of who carried out the attacks and thus reacted. Hindus would never hurt Christians or for that matter anybody. If Hindus were aggressive the Islamic rulers would have never ruled over us for 800 years and Colonial Empire for 200 years... They do not react unless anything is really really wrong.
India has lost 40% of its land till now (Indonesia,Pakistan,Bangladesh), The Hindus do not missionzie, and they do not want anyone to missionize to them. If Christians want to missionize it would be better if they do it starting from Islamic Nations. Also people look at your own nations. Try to save USA,UK... Christianity is fast loosing this these countires. THe youth are not taking to Christianity like before. Focus your energies over there, in the Nations which totally belong to you.
I have been trying to bite my tongue here.
Are you calling Christians idol worshipers?
Before you go around speaking with authority about what happens inside of a church, you should inform yourself about that religion. Not from people in the street or by taking pictures of statues. Whether they be statues of Mary, Joseph, or a saint. I do not worship idols. I believe in and worship G-d.
I will not get into an argument with any of you that cannot respect that there are people of the Christian faith that participate in this forum. I have the utmost respect for Chaim Ben Pesach, JTFs goals and the other members of this forum. I also respect the religious beliefs of our many members here. I would expect nothing less from you and the others that continually bash the Christian faith.
I am just saying that in India the Churchists are not the real Christians, although they build Church, they do it for money, with Idols installed inside them which is against biblical belief, i hope you have gone thru this link. http://www.vailankannichurch.org/ Now do you think this is Christianity.
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Is that not a Roman Catholic Basilica?
I do not go to my church, which is named after a Saint, on Sunday and worship the statues inside.
I, my friend, pray to GOD.
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I don't do this because I'm not a Catholic, however it's my understanding that Catholics technically do not pray to Mary, but ask her to pray with them, to God, just as they would ask a living fellow Catholic to pray with them. That's what I've been told anyway. If they are not praying to Mary or their saints but only asking them to pray with them to God, that's not idol worship, it's just a different way of praying asking for someone to agree with them in prayer.
Personally I don't believe in this, but I don't think those who do are idol worshippers.
A Hindu has a heck of a lot of nerve calling Christians idol worshippers.
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I won't forget the innocent Christians in Orissa and what was done to them by Hindus.
the Hindu tribals were hurt after their religion was insulted and their leader was killed by the missionaries.
Actually you shouldnt call the CHristians in Orssia as CHristians.. they are not worth being called a Christian.. infact none of the supposedly called Indian Christians are Christians.. cause the Christianity they preach is an insult on the teaching of the bible. And if the Christians of the rest of the world are siding with the Indian CHristians then its a big mistake.
It's not for a Hindu to say who is a Christian and who is not a Christian.
Rubystars you dont have much idea what goes on here in the name of Christianity... I am thinking of going around Churches in Mumbai atleast and take pics of what kind of Christianity is practised here. There are many churches here dedicated to Chrisitian Saint. With Statues of them inside to whom people pray .. the way how Hindus pray their Gods. There is a Church near my place which is called Saint Bonavencher CHurch with idol of him installed ..Indian Christians flock to go there.. when i asked one what is there inside .. she said they are going to take blessings of that Saint. Wow.
At least the Catholic saints are human (except for a couple of angels) rather than rats or monkeys or octopus-humanoids.
Not only Saints are idolized, Even Mary and Jesus are.
Check the following.. This is a very famous place for Indian Chrisitians
http://www.vailankannichurch.org/
Now tell me if you really want to consider them as Christians with biblical belief. Also this particular church generates a lot of heat from Hindus who claim that this place was originally a place with Hindu deity of GOddess Durga which was converted and shown as place of Mother Mary in order to start missionizing.
It looks like a branch of the Catholic church to me.
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Thank you for your views Rubystars. and bullcat it is ok about what you think about it. If you come and see here in real you will realize.
I say it Idol worpship,cause the people who come to this church are touching the feet of the Mary as if they are taking the blessing directly from the idol.
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Anything doing for it through the idols, with the idols, of the idols, by the idols, for the idols, tantamount to the same thing and results. There is absolutely no artificial or real difference between them. This is irrespective of anything in Orissa.
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I won't forget the innocent Christians in Orissa and what was done to them by Hindus.
the Hindu tribals were hurt after their religion was insulted and their leader was killed by the missionaries.
Actually you shouldnt call the CHristians in Orssia as CHristians.. they are not worth being called a Christian.. infact none of the supposedly called Indian Christians are Christians.. cause the Christianity they preach is an insult on the teaching of the bible. And if the Christians of the rest of the world are siding with the Indian CHristians then its a big mistake.
It's not for a Hindu to say who is a Christian and who is not a Christian.
Rubystars you dont have much idea what goes on here in the name of Christianity... I am thinking of going around Churches in Mumbai atleast and take pics of what kind of Christianity is practised here. There are many churches here dedicated to Chrisitian Saint. With Statues of them inside to whom people pray .. the way how Hindus pray their Gods. There is a Church near my place which is called Saint Bonavencher CHurch with idol of him installed ..Indian Christians flock to go there.. when i asked one what is there inside .. she said they are going to take blessings of that Saint. Wow.
At least the Catholic saints are human (except for a couple of angels) rather than rats or monkeys or octopus-humanoids.
When I saw this thread building up I thought the same thing. I knew an Indian fellow who told me a bit about the hundreds of different G-d's sounds very confusing to an outsider. He gave me a nice shirt from India that has one of the G-d's on it that represents wealth ( an elephant). I also had a tenant that was rat infesting the property by feeding the rats in a small shed by storing garbage in there for the rats to eat. When I went in there and a rat jumped on my arm I promptly tossed every thing out in the garbage and stopped further use of the shed. He seem very disturbed when I told him rats were not acceptable on the property. I honestly don't know why he would be disturbed by the removal of rats? Then there is that place in India where they go in and get a blessing by letting a Cobra bite them. Very Strange to me but go figure. My opinion is people should be able to worship as they please as long as the are respectful of other religions and not rat infesting the landlords property.
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Those rats were pet or what. What was the color of the rats.
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BTW apart from Cobra bite, they also treat with iron bites, sharp knives and hammers, killer rays and radiations.
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Those rats were pet or what. What was the color of the rats.
Pet rats live in a cage here in America not in a tool shed feasting on a mound of moldering garbage multiplying and infesting everything. I though the guy was going to pass out when he saw me flatten a few smaller ones with a shovel. It might have been his grandpa or grandma. Who knows.
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There are 1% Hindus who believe in such things, maybe due to superstitions
and i agree with cjd, rats are filthy we have to kill them if they infest our homes or its surroundings. Rats are useful in once sense that many medical/genetic tests can be carried out on them,before its tested on humans.We thank God for such useful creation.
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Thank you for your views Rubystars. and bullcat it is ok about what you think about it. If you come and see here in real you will realize.
I say it Idol worpship,cause the people who come to this church are touching the feet of the Mary as if they are taking the blessing directly from the idol.
I'm not going to argue the Christian faith with you Hindu Zionist. I believe that JTF is not the place to do that.
I sense you are purposely trying to be divisive, against the Christian members of JTF, in this thread.
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can you go thru my posts again, and tell who exactly started to bring this Indian Christian thing in this thread?
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Remember the real common enemy, in case any diversion has been brought by muslonazi & EuroCommunists:
http://www.geocities.com/ibniblis/hindukush.html
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can you go thru my posts again, and tell who exactly started to bring this Indian Christian thing in this thread?
I think I did. But my intention was not to sabotage our cooperation.
On the one hand I wanted to give you some backup on the other I was curious.
But it always ends like this. I had to know it. :o
For my part I knew some people from Hindu descent and they are all great. Never had trouble with them and of course no hate towards Christians of any group. Friedrich for example is one of them. He is here on the forum too.
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There are 1% Hindus who believe in such things, maybe due to superstitions
and i agree with cjd, rats are filthy we have to kill them if they infest our homes or its surroundings. Rats are useful in once sense that many medical/genetic tests can be carried out on them,before its tested on humans.We thank G-d for such useful creation.
Even 1% of a massive population is still a heck of a lot of people! I also doubt the 1% claim.
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Anything doing for it through the idols, with the idols, of the idols, by the idols, for the idols, tantamount to the same thing and results. There is absolutely no artificial or real difference between them. This is irrespective of anything in Orissa.
Yea your so right. I guess the Hindu's keep statues like this around for decorations. My point is people myself included should not try to comment on things that would take years to understand and expect the people being berated not to get upset.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganesha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ganesh_Chaturthi
http://templesofbharat.blogspot.com/2009/01/snake-temple-mannarsala.html
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I think what Hindu Zionest tries to explain is, that all this idols are only aspects of one. It is similar to Neoplatonism: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoplatonism
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There are 1% Hindus who believe in such things, maybe due to superstitions
and i agree with cjd, rats are filthy we have to kill them if they infest our homes or its surroundings. Rats are useful in once sense that many medical/genetic tests can be carried out on them,before its tested on humans.We thank G-d for such useful creation.
Even 1% of a massive population is still a heck of a lot of people! I also doubt the 1% claim.
I don't get why you are still trying to attack Hindus.
Someone could make the exact same claim about Christians who bring poisenous snakes to church or Christian Identity or the modern day Unitarian Church. What about the Trinity Church? These types of insults back and forth do no good and the fact is that the Hindus here are joining as friends.
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There are 1% Hindus who believe in such things, maybe due to superstitions
and i agree with cjd, rats are filthy we have to kill them if they infest our homes or its surroundings. Rats are useful in once sense that many medical/genetic tests can be carried out on them,before its tested on humans.We thank G-d for such useful creation.
Even 1% of a massive population is still a heck of a lot of people! I also doubt the 1% claim.
I don't get why you are still trying to attack Hindus.
Someone could make the exact same claim about Christians who bring poisenous snakes to church or Christian Identity or the modern day Unitarian Church. What about the Trinity Church? These types of insults back and forth do no good and the fact is that the Hindus here are joining as friends.
The point is this idol worship claim seems to always be tossed on the backs of the Roman Catholics here on the forum. Its funny but when its tossed back on the sender they don't seem to care for it. You said it, we should be concerned about bigger issues and leave people to their own religion.
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There are 1% Hindus who believe in such things, maybe due to superstitions
and i agree with cjd, rats are filthy we have to kill them if they infest our homes or its surroundings. Rats are useful in once sense that many medical/genetic tests can be carried out on them,before its tested on humans.We thank G-d for such useful creation.
Even 1% of a massive population is still a heck of a lot of people! I also doubt the 1% claim.
I don't get why you are still trying to attack Hindus.
Someone could make the exact same claim about Christians who bring poisenous snakes to church or Christian Identity or the modern day Unitarian Church. What about the Trinity Church? These types of insults back and forth do no good and the fact is that the Hindus here are joining as friends.
Those groups I think are terrible. I'd have a few choice words for them too.
I don't think it's right for India to be a Hindu nation because India has given birth to many religions, not just Hinduism. Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism as well as many forms of Hinduism itself originated in India. Those are only the well-known religions.
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There are 1% Hindus who believe in such things, maybe due to superstitions
and i agree with cjd, rats are filthy we have to kill them if they infest our homes or its surroundings. Rats are useful in once sense that many medical/genetic tests can be carried out on them,before its tested on humans.We thank G-d for such useful creation.
Even 1% of a massive population is still a heck of a lot of people! I also doubt the 1% claim.
I don't get why you are still trying to attack Hindus.
Someone could make the exact same claim about Christians who bring poisenous snakes to church or Christian Identity or the modern day Unitarian Church. What about the Trinity Church? These types of insults back and forth do no good and the fact is that the Hindus here are joining as friends.
Those groups I think are terrible. I'd have a few choice words for them too.
I don't think it's right for India to be a Hindu nation because India has given birth to many religions, not just Hinduism. Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism as well as many forms of Hinduism itself originated in India. Those are only the well-known religions.
Perhaps the Punjab Sikh province should have its own independence. Budhism came from Hinduism so I don't think any Hindus would discriminate against them. I don't know much about Jain but I think it would be good to have just one Hindu nation, because India will collapse just like America, if they continue this multi cultural diversity belief.
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Hello everyone,
I think I need to step in here.
JTF works with good pro-Israel, pro Western anti-Islamic people of ALL religions and nationalities. Therefore, we cannot have people insulting each others religions. So can we please not go on about who is or who isn't a real Christian/Catholic? That's really between the Christians/Catholics on their own time, and not for the others here.
Also we don't have to agree with each other on theology. Otherwise, we would be arguing all the time, and never getting anything done. For example, we have Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox Christian Serbs, atheists, Noahides, Orthodox Jews, and not so observant Jews here. I DO NOT want a repeat of the ugly fighting that went on between some of the Serbs and Catholics here a while back. Trust me, it was extremely ugly, and I had to removed dozens of posts.
So everyone, please remember that we're going to have to work together, especially now with B. Hussein Obama as President of the United States and leader of the free world. We need to do all we can to stop the Islamonutters AND their leftist enablers in the West and the rest of the world. Now is not the time to bicker over the definition of idol worship.
So please keep the discussions here civil, as I would rather not lock this thread.
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There are 1% Hindus who believe in such things, maybe due to superstitions
and i agree with cjd, rats are filthy we have to kill them if they infest our homes or its surroundings. Rats are useful in once sense that many medical/genetic tests can be carried out on them,before its tested on humans.We thank G-d for such useful creation.
Even 1% of a massive population is still a heck of a lot of people! I also doubt the 1% claim.
I don't get why you are still trying to attack Hindus.
Someone could make the exact same claim about Christians who bring poisenous snakes to church or Christian Identity or the modern day Unitarian Church. What about the Trinity Church? These types of insults back and forth do no good and the fact is that the Hindus here are joining as friends.
The point is this idol worship claim seems to always be tossed on the backs of the Roman Catholics here on the forum. Its funny but when its tossed back on the sender they don't seem to care for it. You said it, we should be concerned about bigger issues and leave people to their own religion.
Roman Catholics practice their religion in accordance to biblical beliefs. It is the Indian Christian who wanted to expose.. who are using the identity as Christians here but are doing things which are not in accordance with the bible. This is due to the fact that the idol worshipping mentality is deeply ingrained into the minds of Hindus.. Remember the Indian Christians were Hindus before they converted, and still they cannot get over this kind of worship. But this kind of worship is used to pull Indian crowd into churches for money while the realy concept of the Bible is lost. That is what i wanted to tell you my friend. .. If there is anything wrong we should not defend it. Just like how Rubystars is not defending the Unitarian Church and the Trinity Church concepts..
I am also against Hindus who believe in superstitious concepts like keeping rats in temples, going around with Snake, Caste System,Dowry.. etc We want to get this out from the society ..and the people who practise this are falsely using Hindu name..
Anyways i'm stopping here, no more discussion on this topic from my side now
And about Hindu Nation, The Concept of Hindu Nationalism states that those people who consider the land of India as their holy land can lay claim to this land. Of course Sikhs,Buddhists,jains..etc believe this land is their holy land, hence they become part of the Hindu India.