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Title: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on November 12, 2007, 11:59:20 AM
                                                                                                         בס''ד

www.jtf.org/c.rm

www.jtf.org/c.mp3

This was a very long one - over 2 hours and 30 minutes. There were 45 questioners.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 12, 2007, 03:25:45 PM
too bad i'm at work.. cant listen till i get home

but 2 hrs and 30 minutes!  Come guys, we need to cut Chaim some slack. I know he loves doing these shows but we dont' want a tired Chaim for the rest of the week.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Sarah on November 12, 2007, 04:06:35 PM
Thank you.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 12, 2007, 06:01:49 PM
To those of you who believe that I ask Chaim "silly questions"  on the Ask JTF shows, listen to his response to that complaint when I asked him about it.  He defended my questions and believes that my questions are NOT SILLY!!  What do you think about that you jerks?!!
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Sarah on November 12, 2007, 06:23:13 PM
To those of you who believe that I ask Chaim "silly questions"  on the Ask JTF shows, listen to his response to that complaint when I asked him about it.  He defended my questions and believes that my questions are NOT SILLY!!  What do you think about that you jerks?!!

I've never thought your questions are silly.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Yisrael on November 12, 2007, 06:25:01 PM
Joe, only a very small minority of people here think your questions are silly. I don't. The only kind of question that is silly is a sarcastic one, or a fake one just to waste Chaim's time.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Ehud on November 12, 2007, 07:04:40 PM
too bad i'm at work.. cant listen till i get home

but 2 hrs and 30 minutes!  Come guys, we need to cut Chaim some slack. I know he loves doing these shows but we dont' want a tired Chaim for the rest of the week.

Also keep in mind the people who don't have much free time to listen to the shows!
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 12, 2007, 07:06:17 PM
Thanks Sarah.  I miss our debates.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Trumpeldor on November 12, 2007, 07:12:36 PM
To those of you who believe that I ask Chaim "silly questions"  on the Ask JTF shows, listen to his response to that complaint when I asked him about it.  He defended my questions and believes that my questions are NOT SILLY!!  What do you think about that you jerks?!!

lol.

Joe is the man.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: YESHA on November 13, 2007, 07:32:43 AM
The shows always make intresting listening. But they are far too long. They MUST be cut back, that's what I think. Many will disagree.

Despite ASK JTF being a breath of fresh air for me, when I listen to it every Friday, it is VERY long.

Thank Chaim and all.

Zev
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Sarah on November 13, 2007, 04:13:27 PM
Thanks Sarah.  I miss our debates.

We used to argue a lot remember.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 13, 2007, 06:09:41 PM
I do remember.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Hail Columbia on November 13, 2007, 09:57:26 PM
How about if the show is partitioned at the point where Chaim does his one-minute break?
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Trumpeldor on November 13, 2007, 10:08:41 PM
How about if the show is partitioned at the point where Chaim does his one-minute break?

We can start by having a moderator edit the questions for length, spelling, and grammar before Chaim gets them. There is no reason why Chaim cannot get a Scriabin-like question from everybody.

Additionally, I wouldn't put up the following week's 'Ask Jtf' thread until at least after the current broadcast is aired to respectfully limit the number of questioners.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Sarah on November 14, 2007, 02:28:05 PM
How about if the show is partitioned at the point where Chaim does his one-minute break?

We can start by having a moderator edit the questions for length, spelling, and grammar before Chaim gets them. There is no reason why Chaim cannot get a Scriabin-like question from everybody.

Additionally, I wouldn't put up the following week's 'Ask Jtf' thread until at least after the current broadcast is aired to respectfully limit the number of questioners.

Though a moderator may end up changing a persons question by editing.

I think there should be a number limit, of 30 questions per week.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Nic Brookes on November 14, 2007, 03:39:38 PM
How about if the show is partitioned at the point where Chaim does his one-minute break?

We can start by having a moderator edit the questions for length, spelling, and grammar before Chaim gets them. There is no reason why Chaim cannot get a Scriabin-like question from everybody.

Additionally, I wouldn't put up the following week's 'Ask Jtf' thread until at least after the current broadcast is aired to respectfully limit the number of questioners.


We can't have moderators chop up people's questions. I post longer questions sometimes so moderators have no right to change other people's question by cutting them up. People can save what Chaim doesn't get to for antoher week. That's what I do.



Alternatively you could set a good example and post shorter questions.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Trumpeldor on November 14, 2007, 06:21:20 PM
How about if the show is partitioned at the point where Chaim does his one-minute break?

We can start by having a moderator edit the questions for length, spelling, and grammar before Chaim gets them. There is no reason why Chaim cannot get a Scriabin-like question from everybody.

Additionally, I wouldn't put up the following week's 'Ask Jtf' thread until at least after the current broadcast is aired to respectfully limit the number of questioners.


We can't have moderators chop up people's questions. I post longer questions sometimes so moderators have no right to change other people's question by cutting them up. People can save what Chaim doesn't get to for antoher week. That's what I do.



We should have moderators 'chop up' people's questions. That's what a moderator's role is. Chaim has asked for months now for people to limit their post to a single comment or question. Many of our questioners would not be affected by this in the least and it would shorten the shows. Not only that, it would make the shows more lively. Long questions/comments are generally boring and can be easily expressed more concisely. Let a moderator with great written skills do this for one show (as a test) and I guarantee it will shorten the shows and make them more lively.

Think about it.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Trumpeldor on November 14, 2007, 07:57:24 PM
That's Bolshevism. How will people express themselves. What if they want to make a point and explain something to Chaim and the listeners. This is our only time to write directly to Chaim because usually he is too busy to answer everything we write because he gets hundreds of E-mails a day.



This isn't censorship. We are not telling people they can't express their views. We are simply saying that out of respect for Chaim, people should limit post to one brief question or comment.

By looking at last week's broadcast and the one before that, this will affect only a small portion of the questions.

You yourself have written: "Note To All Posters: Only one post per person is permitted. Please make it a single, short question."
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Joe Gutfeld on November 15, 2007, 07:19:06 PM
I agree.  There are too many questions on the Ask JTF shows.  It makes the shows too long for anyone to listen to in one sitting.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Daniel on November 15, 2007, 09:49:28 PM
I don't think we should have moderators chop up our questions. I think the moderators should install software that limits the number of characters that someone can type into a question. This exists on youtube where you can't type more than 500 characters in one box. We should install the same type of software here. Perhaps 500 characters is too short. But something like a 750 or 1000 character limit would be more suitable for Ask JTF. I'm not sure which software this would be and how to install it. Perhaps one of our ingenious computer geeks might know more about this. Would Jeffguy be able to help us out here? :) (I mean it all in the best possible light :) )
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Daniel on November 15, 2007, 10:08:51 PM
Jeffguy talked about that in the past but I still don't think we should be doing it. That would make my whole question being taken up by the rules.



No offense intended, Yacov. But I think we need to have a system like this in place especially for you since your questions sometimes tend to ramble on and end up being really long :)
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Trumpeldor on November 15, 2007, 11:00:29 PM
You yourself have written: "Note To All Posters: Only one post per person is permitted. Please make it a single, short question."


Check out what else it says.



What is your point? Just because it gets moved to another week doesn't take away from the fact that Chaim probably has to skim it to see what in fact your question is.

The fact that you do this is fine, because it does eventually get moved to another week. Others, however, just enter in a whole lot of text and Chaim has to skim, which prolongs the show unnecessarily and decreases the quality.
Title: Re: Baruch HaShem, Ask JTF Is Ready (11/12)
Post by: Nic Brookes on November 19, 2007, 05:02:09 PM
Jeffguy talked about that in the past but I still don't think we should be doing it. That would make my whole question being taken up by the rules.



To be totally honest, Yacov, you do need to post shorter questions. They are unnecessarily long. You could make them MUCH shorter without changing what they say.