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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Yisrael on December 19, 2007, 09:48:19 PM
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Middle of this video: http://www.yideoz.com/view_video.php?viewkey=02707f3f91b010f151b0
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Is it a recent video?
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I think it's from this year.
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This disgusts me. >:(
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He mentions that Pollard was convicted of spying and got his "due process" which is bunch of bull since he was double crossed into accepting a plea bargain deal which the judge didnt honor and didn't give him an opportunity to rescind the plea and get a fair trial. He NEVER got his just due process!
I don't think any current candidate would be willing to pardon Pollard. Facetiously speaking, I think the only chance we'd ever have of getting a pardon for Pollard is to get the Clintons back into office, and then purchase a pardon from them in their final days in office.
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I don't think any current candidate would be willing to pardon Pollard. Facetiously speaking, I think the only chance we'd ever have of getting a pardon for Pollard is to get the Clintons back into office, and then purchase a pardon from them in their final days in office.
Giuliani said a few years ago that Pollard she be freed. I don't know if he still feels that way, but last I heard, he did.
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Fred Thompson is a hick, who shouldn't even be running. He won't pardon Mr. Pollard? What a moron, and also the fact that there are actual idiots who clap after that statement. >:( The Republican Jewish Coalition should be ashamed of themselves for extending an invitation to this enemy of the Jewish People, Israel and all Americans!
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Fred Thompson's Campaign is dead lets just hope Huckabee would do the right thing
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You guys in a way, not releasing Pollard was a good idea, because they were going to sign a deal with Arafat and they expected Pollard to be released but Clinton denied. I'm going to have to disagree with you guys here. He threatened US national security and for that he can spend his life in jail thinking about what he did. They also believe because of Pollard's spying he got US agents in the Soviet Union killed.
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I don't believe for a second that a word of that is true, but, pretending that it is, the United States and its CIA Nazi spies would totally deserve that as payback for what they did to Pollard and Israel.
I wish somebody would have passed every single U.S. nuclear secret to the USSR as payback for what Reagan (ys"vz) did to the saint Jonathan Pollard. He would deserve it and the entire American public would deserve it for tolerating it.
Chaimfan
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CF do you really think that the Jews and Richouse Gentiles of America deserve a Nuke from the USSR.
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JTFRudy08: In a word, yes. The Bible says G-d will curse nations that curse Israel. If America's righteous Gentiles really were righteous, we would have stopped Reagan from sending Pollard to death row.
Yacov: Of course you are right. This bit about Pollard and Israel being involved in a scheme to supply the Soviets with information is an absolute lie. However, in some ways, it is a shame that it is. The United States did and does deserve to suffer greatly for what it did to Pollard. It is too bad that several CIA Nazi agents (like the "Jewish" agents who all turned him in) didn't get to die as punishment for what was done to this tzaddik.
I know my opinions ain't popular, but they never have been, and I will not retract them or attempt to explain them away gently. We all know what Scripture tells us about nations that abuse Jews and we have a lot coming to us.
CF
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You guys in a way, not releasing Pollard was a good idea, because they were going to sign a deal with Arafat and they expected Pollard to be released but Clinton denied. I'm going to have to disagree with you guys here. He threatened US national security and for that he can spend his life in jail thinking about what he did. They also believe because of Pollard's spying he got US agents in the Soviet Union killed.
You are an Anti-Semite! The deal with Arafat WAS signed and Clinton reneged on his promise but Bibi still went ahead.
Pollard didn't get US agents in The USSR killed. That is a Nazi lie that was debunked on jonathanpollard.org.
Anyone who is against the American hero Jonathan Pollard deserves to burn in Hell forever and ever!
Agreed
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You guys disgust me. Calling a man who gave up info about US National Security a American Hero!! An American Hero doesn't do stuff that will destroy our national security. Also how stupid of you to call it a lie. There is facts that show that there could have been a soviet spy in the Israeli intelligence. His plea bargain was good, so they let him live which what he did was nothing short of treason.
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You guys disgust me. Calling a man who gave up info about US National Security a American Hero!! An American Hero doesn't do stuff that will destroy our national security. Also how stupid of you to call it a lie. There is facts that show that there could have been a soviet spy in the Israeli intelligence. His plea bargain was good, so they let him live which what he did was nothing short of treason.
He didn't give away american military information to my knowledge, he gave away information America collected about the Arab countries in the middle east and their soviet weapons. Of course anyone who violates the law and gives away classified information must be punished but considering the circumstances he should have got 10 years maximum since it helped the world out in the long run and the information was to an ally and wasn't treason since it wasn't US military secrets but info about other enemy countries.
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Thompson is a lamer, he ended when he started and fizzled out. He be lucky to attract flies at any of his speeches.
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You guys disgust me. Calling a man who gave up info about US National Security a American Hero!! An American Hero doesn't do stuff that will destroy our national security. Also how stupid of you to call it a lie. There is facts that show that there could have been a soviet spy in the Israeli intelligence. His plea bargain was good, so they let him live which what he did was nothing short of treason.
learn before you speak, because you are obviously uneducated. Treason is defined as giving classified Information to an Enemy in a time of war. J. Pollard passed information to an ALLY, in PEACETIME. His crime was passing information to a peacefull ally, which carries a 2-4 year sentence. You are a disgrace, and you should go back to Hamas where you came from.
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I think it's time to ban Fagressi0n. Let him go back to Whorefront and seduce some little Swedish boys there.
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How can anyone Disagree with the Pardon of Jonathan Pollard and still be a member of the JTF Forum, that's one issue where there's no Room for Debate On!
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I remember a debate with a reform "rabbi" I had about this subject:
I asked him if when he says prayers (who knows what they are...) for captured Israeli soldiers, if he also has in mind Jonathan Pollard. And he said "No." And I said, "Why - he is a fellow Jew being unjustly held, isn't he?". And he said (something like) "No, I don't think so." And I said, "How could you think that?". And he said, "Well I know details of the case that you don't." So I said, "And what are those details?". And then he said something to the effect of "I can't tell you..."
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I remember a debate with a reform "rabbi" I had about this subject:
I asked him if when he says prayers (who knows what they are...) for captured Israeli soldiers, if he also has in mind Jonathan Pollard. And he said "No." And I said, "Why - he is a fellow Jew being unjustly held, isn't he?". And he said (something like) "No, I don't think so." And I said, "How could you think that?". And he said, "Well I know details of the case that you don't." So I said, "And what are those details?". And then he said something to the effect of "I can't tell you..."
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Haha. Chaim would say, of course, that most "Reform" Jews aren't even halachically Jewish. ;D ;)
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I remember a debate with a reform "rabbi" I had about this subject:
I asked him if when he says prayers (who knows what they are...) for captured Israeli soldiers, if he also has in mind Jonathan Pollard. And he said "No." And I said, "Why - he is a fellow Jew being unjustly held, isn't he?". And he said (something like) "No, I don't think so." And I said, "How could you think that?". And he said, "Well I know details of the case that you don't." So I said, "And what are those details?". And then he said something to the effect of "I can't tell you..."
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Haha. Chaim would say, of course, that most "Reform" Jews aren't even halachically Jewish. ;D ;)
That's not true. Most of them still are - but many are not.
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Fred Thompson is a hick, who shouldn't even be running. He won't pardon Mr. Pollard? What a moron, and also the fact that there are actual idiots who clap after that statement. >:( The Republican Jewish Coalition should be ashamed of themselves for extending an invitation to this enemy of the Jewish People, Israel and all Americans!
Thompson was openly a member of the CFR.
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Fred Thompson's Campaign is dead lets just hope Huckabee would do the right thing
For Thompson to actually be close to being done, Huckabee has to defeat him in South Carolina. Thompson is popular in many of the southern states so a defeat by Huckabee in South Carolina could prevent Thompson from sweeping southern states.
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You guys in a way, not releasing Pollard was a good idea, because they were going to sign a deal with Arafat and they expected Pollard to be released but Clinton denied. I'm going to have to disagree with you guys here. He threatened US national security and for that he can spend his life in jail thinking about what he did. They also believe because of Pollard's spying he got US agents in the Soviet Union killed.
We never said that he shouldn't have spent any time in jail. For the crime he committed though, the typical penalty is only a few years.
http://www.jonathanpollard.org/sentences.htm
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I hope fred thompson gets prostate cancer. What an ignorant animal. This is worthless anyways as his campaign is where it belongs.
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You guys disgust me. Calling a man who gave up info about US National Security a American Hero!! An American Hero doesn't do stuff that will destroy our national security. Also how stupid of you to call it a lie. There is facts that show that there could have been a soviet spy in the Israeli intelligence. His plea bargain was good, so they let him live which what he did was nothing short of treason.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Apologize.