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Title: Computer Question
Post by: Nolandforshalom on January 06, 2008, 10:53:52 PM
I just changed to it and was curious..
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Ambiorix on January 06, 2008, 11:02:25 PM
i use mac OSX 10.3 / 10.4

this is UNIX.

love it !
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: ItalianZionist on January 06, 2008, 11:07:41 PM
what are the benefits to using Linux?...besides not giving that crook Bill gates some more money.
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Ehud on January 06, 2008, 11:23:33 PM
what are the benefits to using Linux?...besides not giving that crook Bill gates some more money.

That's not really a benefit, considering that you can get Windows Vista for free as well.  I think that much of the "benefit" of using Linux is the feeling of superiority and expertise that it brings to its users.  I can't see any practical benefit from using Linux, in fact is gives many practical disadvantages. 
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: DownwithIslam on January 06, 2008, 11:27:36 PM
I was going to get a mac due to the more stable os but its just much more money period. You can get insane deals on windows laptops and their is no such thing in the mac world. You are forced to pay the going apple rates.
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: ItalianZionist on January 06, 2008, 11:28:56 PM
do macs have a right click mouse?
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Ehud on January 06, 2008, 11:31:58 PM
I was going to get a mac due to the more stable os but its just much more money period. You can get insane deals on windows laptops and their is no such thing in the mac world. You are forced to pay the going apple rates.

The "stable" OS myth is bogus.  I've used multiple laptops both running on XP and Vista and there has been no instability to speak of.  The current laptop I have which runs on Vista is solid as a rock, there's no need to waste your money with a Mac OS system, the benefit is mostly hype. 
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Nolandforshalom on January 06, 2008, 11:36:13 PM
what are the benefits to using Linux?...besides not giving that crook Bill gates some more money.

It doesnt ever crash, for me, atleast, its faster, frees up a little space on ur system, and it much better organized. Plus u get 2 desktops u can switch between, so double the work space.
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Nolandforshalom on January 06, 2008, 11:37:43 PM
what are the benefits to using Linux?...besides not giving that crook Bill gates some more money.

That's not really a benefit, considering that you can get Windows Vista for free as well.  I think that much of the "benefit" of using Linux is the feeling of superiority and expertise that it brings to its users.  I can't see any practical benefit from using Linux, in fact is gives many practical disadvantages. 
Im terrible with computer and use Linux. it has no disadvantages. An windows programs can be run with Win4Lin, a free software.  I previously had windows vista, and had to wipe my drive twice because of a faulty OS
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Nolandforshalom on January 06, 2008, 11:38:26 PM
do macs have a right click mouse?
I think you press a button while clicking
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Husar on January 06, 2008, 11:39:53 PM
I was going to get a mac due to the more stable os but its just much more money period. You can get insane deals on windows laptops and their is no such thing in the mac world. You are forced to pay the going apple rates.

Hey, hey, I was going to buy myself
an expensive 24" screen Imac Intel,
thinking it was exceptionnal, concerning bugs, spams,
and other such common things on a windows....
But, I had the opportunity to work on both of them,
Imac and Windows, and I can assure you
that the Imac does crazy things also,
which ones, I can't remember very well,
since this occured in june/july 2007.

A friend of mine, who's webmaster,
told me that Imacs get into troubles
(almost) as often as a Windows.
His father was a journalist,
and had an Imac. My friend was fed up
with the troubles the Imac got into constantly.

I'm so glad I didn't buy an Imac,
EXPENSIVE, and as "troublable"
as any Windows System...

 O0 O0 O0

It's JUST nice...

(http://www.generationmp3.com/gadgets/images/Ordinateur%20de%20salon/nouveau_imac_intel_apple.jpg)

Nothing else.
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: ItalianZionist on January 06, 2008, 11:40:39 PM
I don't know why macs don't have a right click or even a 3rd scrolll button
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Kiwi on January 06, 2008, 11:41:15 PM
Nope not I
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Nolandforshalom on January 06, 2008, 11:42:05 PM
I don't know why macs don't have a right click or even a 3rd scrolll button
Becuase they want to look modern and futuristic  ::)
you can buy a normal mouse for them though..
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Ambiorix on January 06, 2008, 11:47:37 PM
I don't know why macs don't have a right click or even a 3rd scrolll button


time changed.

my laptop has a trackpad to right-click/scroll just by using both index/middle finger, and clicking with 1 finger.
Mouses are conected via USB or bluetooth, and have 4 buttons and vertical and horizontal scroll.
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Ambiorix on January 06, 2008, 11:49:35 PM
I was going to get a mac due to the more stable os but its just much more money period. You can get insane deals on windows laptops and their is no such thing in the mac world. You are forced to pay the going apple rates.

Hey, hey, I was going to buy myself
an expensive 24" screen Imac Intel,
thinking it was exceptionnal, concerning bugs, spams,
and other such common things on a windows....
But, I had the opportunity to work on both of them,
Imac and Windows, and I can assure you
that the Imac does crazy things also,
which ones, I can't remember very well,
since this occured in june/july 2007.

A friend of mine, who's webmaster,
told me that Imacs get into troubles
(almost) as often as a Windows.
His father was a journalist,
and had an Imac. My friend was fed up
with the troubles the Imac got into constantly.

I'm so glad I didn't buy an Imac,
EXPENSIVE, and as "troublable"
as any Windows System...

 O0 O0 O0

It's JUST nice...

(http://www.generationmp3.com/gadgets/images/Ordinateur%20de%20salon/nouveau_imac_intel_apple.jpg)

Nothing else.

i have a G5 , and a macbook.

The MacBook is a bit less quality than the MacBookPro.

I'd buy a desktop-model instead of iMac. They are real good computers. MacPRo/G5/G4
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: ItalianZionist on January 06, 2008, 11:50:08 PM
A 3 button mouse works on a mac?
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: ItalianZionist on January 06, 2008, 11:50:55 PM
What's better AMD or Pentium4?
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: JTFFan on January 06, 2008, 11:51:28 PM
I have a MacBook
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Ambiorix on January 06, 2008, 11:51:54 PM
I was going to get a mac due to the more stable os but its just much more money period. You can get insane deals on windows laptops and their is no such thing in the mac world. You are forced to pay the going apple rates.
I think a laptop of 1000-3000 $ and a desktop of 2500-16.000$ is a bit expensive, but for my work it is better than PC.
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Ambiorix on January 06, 2008, 11:54:19 PM
A 3 button mouse works on a mac?
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=EB8EE561&fnode=home/shop_mac/mac_accessories/mice_keyboards&nplm=MB112LL/A
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Ambiorix on January 06, 2008, 11:55:26 PM
What I hate about mac and windows, is that all advertisements are pro- multi-cultural.
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: JTFFan on January 06, 2008, 11:56:22 PM
yes, in Apple commerials and apple products there is always Asians? ;D
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Ambiorix on January 06, 2008, 11:57:48 PM
yes, in Apple commerials and apple products there is always Asians? ;D
i get sick of it.
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: White Israelite on January 06, 2008, 11:59:27 PM
I use Fedora Core 4 at work for my server, needs to be updated, I use FreeBSD on my dedicated servers.

Linux is more stable than Windows for server use, no GUI (option to) means less use of memory and CPU, no worries of memory leaks, less exploits out there (though they exist), and i've had a uptime of 330 days without a reboot.
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Ambiorix on January 07, 2008, 12:14:44 AM
I use Fedora Core 4 at work for my server, needs to be updated, I use FreeBSD on my dedicated servers.

Linux is more stable than Windows for server use, no GUI (option to) means less use of memory and CPU, no worries of memory leaks, less exploits out there (though they exist), and i've had a uptime of 330 days without a reboot.

I think that's great. Reboot once a year...
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: JTFFan on January 07, 2008, 01:38:06 AM
I use Fedora Core 4 at work for my server, needs to be updated, I use FreeBSD on my dedicated servers.

Linux is more stable than Windows for server use, no GUI (option to) means less use of memory and CPU, no worries of memory leaks, less exploits out there (though they exist), and i've had a uptime of 330 days without a reboot.

I think that's great. Reboot once a year...

yes
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: briann on January 07, 2008, 01:49:19 AM
Linux is a nice O.S. and it NEVER EVER freezes, but I would never in my right mind suggest it to someone who doesn't have a specific purpose already in mind for it.

If you don't want to give to Bill Gates, then download a Pirated Windows XP.  If you are too moral to do this, then buy a MAC.

Brian
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: JTFFan on January 07, 2008, 01:50:42 AM
Linux is alright, I prefer Macs over Linux though ;)
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: ItalianZionist on January 07, 2008, 01:53:39 AM
What's better AMD or Pentium4?  or is mac faster than all of them?
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: JTFFan on January 07, 2008, 01:56:58 AM
AMD is better, but Macs switched to Intel chips which are also pretty good.
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: ItalianZionist on January 07, 2008, 01:59:48 AM
AMD is better, but Macs switched to Intel chips which are also pretty good.


AMD is better by far in speed?   Macs have Intel chips? Does intel mean pentium? so macs have the same chips as pentium4? thnx
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: JTFFan on January 07, 2008, 02:00:30 AM
you're welcome ;)
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: ItalianZionist on January 07, 2008, 02:02:28 AM
AMD is better by far in speed?   Macs have Intel chips? Does intel mean pentium? so macs have the same chips as pentium4?
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Ambiorix on January 07, 2008, 02:05:02 AM
AMD is better, but Macs switched to Intel chips which are also pretty good.


AMD is better by far in speed?   Macs have Intel chips? Does intel mean pentium? so macs have the same chips as pentium4? thnx

Mac G4 used Motorolla, G5 IBM, And now intel duocore/

MacPro(desktop like G5, but Intel)
the fastest is 8 cores of 3 GHZ, which makes 8x3 uhhmmm i need my computer for that... can't find the application euhmmm

8-core processing
Two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5300 series processors
Intel Core microarchitecture
8MB of L2 cache per processor (16MB total; each pair of cores shares 4MB)
128-bit   SSE3 vector engine
64-bit data paths and registers
Energy efficiency optimization
1.33GHz, 64-bit dual independent frontside buses
Quad-core processing
Two 2.0GHz, 2.66GHz, or 3.0GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon 5100 series processors
Intel Core microarchitecture
4MB of shared L2 cache per processor (8MB total)
128-bit   SSE3 vector engine
64-bit data paths and registers
Energy efficiency optimization
1.33GHz, 64-bit dual independent frontside buses
Memory
667MHz DDR2 ECC fully buffered DIMM (FB-DIMM) memory
Eight FB-DIMM slots on two memory riser cards (four slots per card) supporting up to 16GB of main memory
256-bit-wide memory architecture
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: ItalianZionist on January 07, 2008, 02:11:58 AM
AMD is better, but Macs switched to Intel chips which are also pretty good.


AMD is better by far in speed?   Macs have Intel chips? Does intel mean pentium? so macs have the same chips as pentium4? thnx

Mac G4 used Motorolla, G5 IBM, And now intel duocore/

MacPro(desktop like G5, but Intel)
the fastest is 8 cores of 3 GHZ, which makes 8x3 uhhmmm i need my computer for that... can't find the application euhmmm

8-core processing
Two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5300 series processors
Intel Core microarchitecture
8MB of L2 cache per processor (16MB total; each pair of cores shares 4MB)
128-bit   SSE3 vector engine
64-bit data paths and registers
Energy efficiency optimization
1.33GHz, 64-bit dual independent frontside buses
Quad-core processing
Two 2.0GHz, 2.66GHz, or 3.0GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon 5100 series processors
Intel Core microarchitecture
4MB of shared L2 cache per processor (8MB total)
128-bit   SSE3 vector engine
64-bit data paths and registers
Energy efficiency optimization
1.33GHz, 64-bit dual independent frontside buses
Memory
667MHz DDR2 ECC fully buffered DIMM (FB-DIMM) memory
Eight FB-DIMM slots on two memory riser cards (four slots per card) supporting up to 16GB of main memory
256-bit-wide memory architecture


thnx Amb.    so  MacPro  is the fastest desktop?
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: JTFFan on January 07, 2008, 02:13:05 AM
It's pretty good. O0

Not sure if it is the fastest though ;)
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: Ambiorix on January 07, 2008, 02:34:16 AM
AMD is better, but Macs switched to Intel chips which are also pretty good.


AMD is better by far in speed?   Macs have Intel chips? Does intel mean pentium? so macs have the same chips as pentium4? thnx

Mac G4 used Motorolla, G5 IBM, And now intel duocore/

MacPro(desktop like G5, but Intel)
the fastest is 8 cores of 3 GHZ, which makes 8x3 uhhmmm i need my computer for that... can't find the application euhmmm

8-core processing
Two 3.0GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon 5300 series processors
Intel Core microarchitecture
8MB of L2 cache per processor (16MB total; each pair of cores shares 4MB)
128-bit   SSE3 vector engine
64-bit data paths and registers
Energy efficiency optimization
1.33GHz, 64-bit dual independent frontside buses
Quad-core processing
Two 2.0GHz, 2.66GHz, or 3.0GHz Dual-Core Intel Xeon 5100 series processors
Intel Core microarchitecture
4MB of shared L2 cache per processor (8MB total)
128-bit   SSE3 vector engine
64-bit data paths and registers
Energy efficiency optimization
1.33GHz, 64-bit dual independent frontside buses
Memory
667MHz DDR2 ECC fully buffered DIMM (FB-DIMM) memory
Eight FB-DIMM slots on two memory riser cards (four slots per card) supporting up to 16GB of main memory
256-bit-wide memory architecture


thnx Amb.    so  MacPro  is the fastest desktop?

for mac it is the only desktop.
I think you can buy Windows / UNIX /Linux machines with the same specs, but the price tag, normally isn't lower than mac.
yes
Title: Re: Computer Question
Post by: JTFFan on January 07, 2008, 02:35:13 AM
Macs are overall more User-Friendly for me. ;)