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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: GUTB on February 03, 2008, 05:47:07 AM
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How can you betray me Chaim? I used to be a loyal follower.
בגדת בי. בגדת בי
:'( :'( :'(
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Mills is right.
Chaim is not responible for for every comment of Anne Coulter's, nor does he endorse EVERY comment or view she holds.
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How in the world could Chaim be responsible for what comes out of Coulter's mouth. Thats really a funny thing to write in your first post.
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The thread title doesn't make sense.
Have you previously posted on this forum?
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I think we have a troll trying to be subtle. It's about the lamest trolling attempt I've seen for a while.
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I think we have a troll trying to be subtle. It's about the lamest trolling attempt I've seen for a while.
Well at least he put his cards on the table with his first post :::D
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JTF is now opposed to Ann Coulter.
Great. Now you go and tell that to all the tens of thousands of brainwashed jtf minions that chaim, in his insane megalomaniacal fashion, has convinced otherwise.
What were his exact words when he was bashing Ron Paul last month "We love ann coulter"
Yes, I was a loyal follower of JTF long before kikes like you ever heard of the show.
I can tell you personally, after carefully reading and listening to the show and site for years, I was one of those who actually "got my pencil and paper", wrote things down.
JTf is inconsistant. JTF has come to appoint where it is NOT in American's best interest to support Israel. That's why I personally have chosen Israel over America.
You can't have dual loyalties. Vancier makes a good point. Paul is a terrible candidate for Israel but great for America.
Yes, he's a closet antisemite, but I'd rather have a closet antisemite than hillary rhodam soddom or barrack osama.
Another thing, Vancier's prediction in 2002 was that Jeb Bush would get the Republican nomination after Jorgé was done with his fascistic reign. He was wrong.
We have to keep in mind that Vancier (Ben Pesach) could be working for someone else now. His views are not nearly as consistent as they used to be when I used to listen to him years ago. It's possible that he has been subverted.
Thank you lisa for not deleting my post like you did last time. Either you're asleep, or you've been fired.
By the way, I saw coulter for what she was a long time ago.
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JTF is now opposed to Ann Coulter.
Great. Now you go and tell that to all the tens of thousands of brainwashed jtf minions that chaim, in his insane megalomaniacal fashion, has convinced otherwise.
What were his exact words when he was bashing Ron Paul last month "We love ann coulter"
Yes, I was a loyal follower of JTF long before kikes like you ever heard of the show.
I can tell you personally, after carefully reading and listening to the show and site for years, I was one of those who actually "got my pencil and paper", wrote things down.
JTf is inconsistant. JTF has come to appoint where it is NOT in American's best interest to support Israel. That's why I personally have chosen Israel over America.
You can't have dual loyalties. Vancier makes a good point. Paul is a terrible candidate for Israel but great for America.
Yes, he's a closet antisemite, but I'd rather have a closet antisemite than hillary rhodam soddom or barrack osama.
Another thing, Vancier's prediction in 2002 was that Jeb Bush would get the Republican nomination after Jorgé was done with his fascistic reign. He was wrong.
We have to keep in mind that Vancier (Ben Pesach) could be working for someone else now. His views are not nearly as consistent as they used to be when I used to listen to him years ago. It's possible that he has been subverted.
Thank you lisa for not deleting my post like you did last time. Either you're asleep, or you've been fired.
By the way, I saw coulter for what she was a long time ago.
Honestly you must be kidding. What exactly are you trying to say here. Its plain to see your only mission here is to insult Chaim. Find yourself some other place to play. Unless you have a better argument we are not buying your garbage.
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This jerk gets on here about once every 2/3 months. The last time he raved on about all the 'millions' Chaim makes out of JTF!
Hose this turd out of here.
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This jerk gets on here about once every 2/3 months. The last time he raved on about all the 'millions' Chaim makes out of JTF!
Hose this turd out of here.
He should have been tossed out after the first post!
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Honestly you must be kidding. What exactly are you trying to say here. Its plain to see your only mission here is to insult Chaim. Find yourself some other place to play. Unless you have a better argument we are not buying your garbage.
You're a disgrace to Judaism and Jews. I believe it was one of the founding fathers who said that a patriot is a hard thing to come by in the begining and then everyone joins him once his cause becomes popular.
I spent many a night, after a long trek home from work, in the freezing cold, on my computer, debating, fighting, fighting the information war for Israel, debunking Moslems. I must have made at least 10,000 individual posts on the internet defending Israel from eurotrash nazis and their moslem cohorts.
Now I see kike judenrat left wing Jews suddenly as "The voice" for this movement. These rotten kikes. They don't know what a republic is, they don't know what emancipation is, they don't know what "we the people" means, and lastly, they don't know jack [censored] about Judaism.
Go and read the American constitution and the bill of rights. Then go and read a little about Jewish history. Learn a little bit about your people from an historical point of view.
How are Americans supposed to give a [censored] about Israel? The fight is not for the shetachim!!! The fight is for the very FREEDOMS of the people of Israel. You can give a billion dollars to the settlers, the deep rooted marxist fascist government of Israel is going to give it away.
You keep feeding the beast, and you will not win. No, Israel is not the Or La'Amim, the American constitution is. You will never have a strong Israel if you do not have a strong America. Untill people like you and vancier get your heads out of your asses and realize this, than you are carrying on a futile war.
Yes, support Israel. But only if you are going to move there. If you are going to stay in America, then America comes first, and Israel second.
This jerk gets on here about once every 2/3 months. The last time he raved on about all the 'millions' Chaim makes out of JTF!
No. I posted once a year ago. A post to the tune of this one but it was immediately deleted by 'lisa' and I was subsequently banned.
Thanks for banning me. Next time try banning my IP address, you might have more luck, temporarily.
It's funny that someone who promoted JTF in it's internet infancy, someone who was the person responsible for spreading it accross message boards (Vancier started with his "post us on message boards" tirade after I, a very respected member of a large message board, advertised there on a constant basis), should now be banned from the long overdue jtf message board.
What's next, you're going to hire scientology's lawyers to stalk me?
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Wow! I could go with a point or two you make in your reply however you seem to have serious issues with JTF. I don't know anything about your prior banning. I have been here right along from the start and have been listening to Chaim for years. I honestly don't see the change in JTF you speak of. I think its wrong for you to come out of the blue and insult the people of the forum as you do. What name did you go by the last time you were here it may shed some light on things for us about you.
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Wow! I could go with a point or two you make in your reply however you seem to have serious issues with JTF. I don't know anything about your prior banning. I have been here right along from the start and have been listening to Chaim for years. I honestly don't see the change in JTF you speak of. I think its wrong for you to come out of the blue and insult the people of the forum as you do. What name did you go by the last time you were here it may shed some light on things for us about you.
Look,
It's just a Chaim bash except he's trying a flanking attack instead of a frontal assault.
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Why post on JTF GUTB?
It seems like you have a bad case of Sour Grapes.
If I believed what you do...I'd be a million miles away from here.
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The Constitution is of utmost importance but to compare it to the Torah the word of G-D is evil.And to call chaim a bogad is is shamefull
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Why post on JTF GUTB?
It seems like you have a bad case of Sour Grapes.
If I believed what you do...I'd be a million miles away from here.
You'd better believe it. If you like, I can direct you to my countless usenet posts supporting JTF back in the day, and with more difficulty, my forum posts.
You should be a million miles away from here. JTF practices nothing of what it preaches. JTF's forums are like stalinist russia, if they don't like what you say it's a post delete plus ban.
I understand a need for moderation, I've been on the internet for quite a while, and rarely do you come across such a suppressive forum. The only thing JTF is good for is supporting the No'Ar Ha'Givaot financially, and for this I applaud them, but they are losing their core supporters such as myself because of megalomaniacal narcissism, failure to adapt, and a generally inadequate understanding of Jewish history.
I have to admit, I did learn quite a bit back from JTF, back in the day. JTF introduced me to Ben Hecht's Perfidy, and a lot of underlying causes of evil in the world. And that's why I am back here. I want to give back. But at the same time, I have supported JTF throughout this time, and I have received nothing but digested dog food in return.
Quit your shït. It's time for this movement to show it's balls. I've had enough of this maniacal screaming and yelling at stupidity. We need action now. The problems Israel face is caused by a much broader scope. The new world order. They manipulate us through our religion. Read about Jewish history.
Do you think circumcision is the same now as we did it originally? Hmm... Maybe the Herodian puppet régime of rome had something to do with it. You can start your history lesson by reading about a fellow named John Kellogg and then you can move on to Morris Fishbein.
The Constitution is of utmost importance but to compare it to the Torah the word of G-D is evil.And to call chaim a bogad is is shamefull
And you just prove my point by showing your ignorance. The constitution is BASED on the Torah. It was probably founded on deep talmudic understanding. The constitution is based on the basic definition of property.
Being the kind person that I am, I will foward you to a 5 hour lesson on the constitution by a gentleman named Michael Badnarik who was the candidate for the Libertarian Party way back when... Here you will learn about things like Allodial Titles, Automobile's Manufacturers Statements of Origin, and a lot of other things that might just save your little ignorant mind in the future:
Here is a link to a playlist I made for Windows Media Player for all seven parts, so they will play seamlessly, and you won't have to click on the next part once the first one finishes:
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=Michael_Badnarik__s_Class.wvx
And here is a direct link to the site, in case you don't trust my link:
http://www.archive.org/details/Michael_Badnarik
Thank you for unbanning my IP. I could have bypassed it with a proxy server, but I have become sick as of late from all this fighting I have been doing over tha past ten years, and quite frankly, I just don't have the energy today as I used to.
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Why post on JTF GUTB?
It seems like you have a bad case of Sour Grapes.
If I believed what you do...I'd be a million miles away from here.
You'd better believe it. If you like, I can direct you to my countless usenet posts supporting JTF back in the day, and with more difficulty, my forum posts.
You should be a million miles away from here. JTF practices nothing of what it preaches. JTF's forums are like stalinist russia, if they don't like what you say it's a post delete plus ban.
I understand a need for moderation, I've been on the internet for quite a while, and rarely do you come across such a suppressive forum. The only thing JTF is good for is supporting the No'Ar Ha'Givaot financially, and for this I applaud them, but they are losing their core supporters such as myself because of megalomaniacal narcissism, failure to adapt, and a generally inadequate understanding of Jewish history.
I have to admit, I did learn quite a bit back from JTF, back in the day. JTF introduced me to Ben Hecht's Perfidy, and a lot of underlying causes of evil in the world. And that's why I am back here. I want to give back. But at the same time, I have supported JTF throughout this time, and I have received nothing but digested dog food in return.
Quit your shït. It's time for this movement to show it's balls. I've had enough of this maniacal screaming and yelling at stupidity. We need action now. The problems Israel face is caused by a much broader scope. The new world order. They manipulate us through our religion. Read about Jewish history.
Do you think circumcision is the same now as we did it originally? Hmm... Maybe the Herodian puppet régime of rome had something to do with it. You can start your history lesson by reading about a fellow named John Kellogg and then you can move on to Morris Fishbein.
The Constitution is of utmost importance but to compare it to the Torah the word of G-D is evil.And to call chaim a bogad is is shamefull
And you just prove my point by showing your ignorance. The constitution is BASED on the Torah. It was probably founded on deep talmudic understanding. The constitution is based on the basic definition of property.
Being the kind person that I am, I will foward you to a 5 hour lesson on the constitution by a gentleman named Michael Badnarik who was the candidate for the Libertarian Party way back when... Here you will learn about things like Allodial Titles, Automobile's Manufacturers Statements of Origin, and a lot of other things that might just save your little ignorant mind in the future:
Here is a link to a playlist I made for Windows Media Player for all seven parts, so they will play seamlessly, and you won't have to click on the next part once the first one finishes:
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=Michael_Badnarik__s_Class.wvx
And here is a direct link to the site, in case you don't trust my link:
http://www.archive.org/details/Michael_Badnarik
Thank you for unbanning my IP. I could have bypassed it with a proxy server, but I have become sick as of late from all this fighting I have been doing over tha past ten years, and quite frankly, I just don't have the energy today as I used to.
You seem to have quite a bit of energy to insult JTF. JTF allows people to speak on their forum at times far longer than they should. I have seen forums ban people for far less then you have said already. If you have something you feel is worth discussing you should do it in a civil way. People here will debate almost anything that is presented in a reasonable manor. Whats with all the smoke and mirrors (redundant accounts)? You say you were here in the past tell us who you were. JTF despite what you claim is one of the best forums around. The fact that you are overworking yourself trying to post here only proves that point.
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No'Ar Ha'Givaot
No'ar HaGva'ot*
Why you don't like JTF (or you do) ?
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The way I see it, one can't be both good for America and bad for Israel. Policies that are bad for Israel will eventually be detrimental to America as well. We are told: "I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you." A country that supposedly "defends it national interests" to the detriment of Israel is on the wrong track. G-d will punish it sooner or later. Any country's national interests should be in agreement with G-d's plan that involves Israel. People who talk about a supposed conflict between Israel's and America's interests must be secular. A national policy based on secularist reasoning will ultimately fail, I am sure.
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You seem to have quite a bit of energy to insult JTF. JTF allows people to speak on their forum at times far longer than they should. I have seen forums ban people for far less then you have said already. If you have something you feel is worth discussing you should do it in a civil way. People here will debate almost anything that is presented in a reasonable manor. Whats with all the smoke and mirrors (redundant accounts)? You say you were here in the past tell us who you were. JTF despite what you claim is one of the best forums around. The fact that you are overworking yourself trying to post here only proves that point.
To quote an infamous talmudic commentator who's name escapes me at this moment, you have the logic of a donkey. I thought fot a moment that it was the שב שמעתע(sp?), but it isn't.
Why you don't like JTF (or you do) ?
I don't like JTF anymore because it has turned into an emulation of some crazed fascistic cult. Judaism is about exploring the torah and not just the written torah but learn the sciences. Learn history, and learn about Jewish archaeology. Watch Simcha Jacobivici (Jacobivici conclusively proves that the first phonetic language was invented by the Jews, not the "Phoenicians" a barbaric sea-warring nation. American scientists fail to accept this for reasons known to us, my people. It's one of the episodes of The Naked Archaeologist and I can tell you witch one), study theories. Evolution....
I was born and raised ultra orthdox Lubavitch, btw.
The way I see it, one can't be both good for America and bad for Israel. Policies that are bad for Israel will eventually be detrimental to America as well. We are told: "I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you." A country that supposedly "defends it national interests" to the detriment of Israel is on the wrong track. G-d will punish it sooner or later. Any country's national interests should be in agreement with G-d's plan that involves Israel. People who talk about a supposed conflict between Israel's and America's interests must be secular. A national policy based on secularist reasoning will ultimately fail, I am sure.
You fail to understand a basic concept. You have a bunch of lab rats in America in a cage with a lynx and a bunch of labrats in a cage in Israel with a fox. Americans cannot support Israel when war veterans are coming back and being forced to live in homeless shelters. Get this through your thick skull.
Americans are fighting for their gulps of air just as we are. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS????
Why should an American Jew sacrifice his family's life to support Israel while the Israeli elitist billionaires will end up with that money and use it to destroy Israel even more.
We need a more constructive plan other than dealing with uneducated absolutisms.
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Yes, I was a loyal follower of JTF long before kikes like you ever heard of the show.
Why do you refer to Jews as Kikes?
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You seem to have quite a bit of energy to insult JTF. JTF allows people to speak on their forum at times far longer than they should. I have seen forums ban people for far less then you have said already. If you have something you feel is worth discussing you should do it in a civil way. People here will debate almost anything that is presented in a reasonable manor. Whats with all the smoke and mirrors (redundant accounts)? You say you were here in the past tell us who you were. JTF despite what you claim is one of the best forums around. The fact that you are overworking yourself trying to post here only proves that point.
To quote an infamous talmudic commentator who's name escapes me at this moment, you have the logic of a donkey. I thought fot a moment that it was the שב שמעתע(sp?), but it isn't.
Why you don't like JTF (or you do) ?
I don't like JTF anymore because it has turned into an emulation of some crazed fascistic cult. Judaism is about exploring the torah and not just the written torah but learn the sciences. Learn history, and learn about Jewish archaeology. Watch Simcha Jacobivici (Jacobivici conclusively proves that the first phonetic language was invented by the Jews, not the "Phoenicians" a barbaric sea-warring nation. American scientists fail to accept this for reasons known to us, my people. It's one of the episodes of The Naked Archaeologist and I can tell you witch one), study theories. Evolution....
I was born and raised ultra orthdox Lubavitch, btw.
The way I see it, one can't be both good for America and bad for Israel. Policies that are bad for Israel will eventually be detrimental to America as well. We are told: "I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you." A country that supposedly "defends it national interests" to the detriment of Israel is on the wrong track. G-d will punish it sooner or later. Any country's national interests should be in agreement with G-d's plan that involves Israel. People who talk about a supposed conflict between Israel's and America's interests must be secular. A national policy based on secularist reasoning will ultimately fail, I am sure.
You fail to understand a basic concept. You have a bunch of lab rats in America in a cage with a lynx and a bunch of labrats in a cage in Israel with a fox. Americans cannot support Israel when war veterans are coming back and being forced to live in homeless shelters. Get this through your thick skull.
Americans are fighting for their gulps of air just as we are. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS????
Why should an American Jew sacrifice his family's life to support Israel while the Israeli elitist billionaires will end up with that money and use it to destroy Israel even more.
We need a more constructive plan other than dealing with uneducated absolutisms.
You made me laugh with this post. You must let me know who that infamous talmudic commentator is. What can I tell you your to smart for me maybe you should talk to yourself ;) I really am not educated enough to deal with lunatics. People go to collage for years to deal with that sort of thing and then only then still get mixed results. 8;)
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Re: GUTB
You are obviously a person of great depth; and the well-composed style of your writing indicates to me that you are a person of intellect.
Much of your criticism is well taken, and should give JTF members pause for thought.
America's national and foreign interests are not one and the same as The State of Israel.
This 'inconvenient truth' was emphatically stated by Rabbi Meir Kahane, who warned all Jews worldwide to make emergency aliyah before it is too late.
True, G-d judges nations as to their treatment of Israel, but G-d also allows for nations' failure and disobedience.
The "spiritual Torah-true obligations" of the U.S.A. to support the Jewish People has long been abandoned, and this "obsession" with which candidate will be "the best for Israel" is nothing more than the psychological behavior known as "denial".
I myself have repeatedly stated on this forum that the current policies of Washington betraying Israel will continue unabated, regardless of which Party or which candidate assumes power in the next election.
I will go so far as to state for the record on this forum, that after the next election, the American Jews will consider Washington's current betrayal of Israel as "the good old days".
Already Washington is riddled from top to bottom with Islamists, even to the point of being appointed as "advisers" to our top brass Pentagon generals.
Not only are America's borders deliberately left unprotected, but State Department official policy is also encouraging large scale Muslim immigration to our shores.
As Big Oil just yesterday announced the greatest corporate profits in all of recorded history (timed perfectly for weekend media...when most of America is relaxing and not paying attention to the news), it becomes increasing clear that America is totally dependent on petroleum and has no intention whatsoever of becoming less dependent.
It should also be clear to all that Big Oil controls America's energy policies; not the American people.
Sometimes a person of convictions simply has to "vent" their frustrations and feelings of deep disappointment, and in doing so they are actually "reaching out" to those whom they consider to be in great danger.
I myself have done so on this forum on more than one occassion; and I am in favor of GUTB remaining on the forum for the purposes of educating all of us here in matters which GUTB deems of importance.
I would only ask for GUTB to henceforth refrain from personal criticisms (such as those directed at Chaim), and I also ask for fellow JTF members to allow this person freedom to post here as they see fit and to give consideration to GUTB's thoughts.
Debate should you disagree with him, but do so on an "impersonal" level, without resorting to "name-calling".
There can never be progress and advancement without some degree of friction and resistance placed between the starting point and the destination.
We all could stand to be challenged from time to time...steel must be tempered by first passing through fire.
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Fox news is owned by Saudi Arabia...that means all the movie stars on the Fox news network are under hostage and getting paid Saudi money to say what Saudi wants to hear them say. That include Coulter who was just as fake as the next "conservative".
The Aliens are taking over...same thing the Nazis did..same thing from the series "V"
I know I keep bringing it up, but the Muslims are taking over much like the Nazis did.
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Merkava [to GUTB2]: "...Why do you refer to Jews as Kikes?..."
That's not what he wrote.
What he wrote was "kikes like you".
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JTF is now opposed to Ann Coulter.
Great. Now you go and tell that to all the tens of thousands of brainwashed jtf minions that vancier, in his insane megalomaniacal fashion, has convinced otherwise.
What were his exact words when he was bashing Ron Paul last month "We love ann coulter"
Yes, I was a loyal follower of JTF long before kikes like you ever heard of the show.
I can tell you personally, after carefully reading and listening to the show and site for years, I was one of those who actually "got my pencil and paper", wrote things down.
JTf is inconsistant. JTF has come to appoint where it is NOT in American's best interest to support Israel. That's why I personally have chosen Israel over America.
You can't have dual loyalties. Vancier makes a good point. Paul is a terrible candidate for Israel but great for America.
Yes, he's a closet antisemite, but I'd rather have a closet antisemite than hillary rhodam soddom or barrack osama.
Another thing, Vancier's prediction in 2002 was that Jeb Bush would get the Republican nomination after Jorgé was done with his fascistic reign. He was wrong.
We have to keep in mind that Vancier (Ben Pesach) could be working for someone else now. His views are not nearly as consistent as they used to be when I used to listen to him years ago. It's possible that he has been subverted.
Thank you lisa for not deleting my post like you did last time. Either you're asleep, or you've been fired.
By the way, I saw coulter for what she was a long time ago.
Last I looked, Paul is out of contention...BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
ban this troll...
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שב שמעתע(sp?)
Huh ?
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I also call Jews i don'nt like Kikes and i'm Jewish
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Honestly you must be kidding. What exactly are you trying to say here. Its plain to see your only mission here is to insult Chaim. Find yourself some other place to play. Unless you have a better argument we are not buying your garbage.
You're a disgrace to Judaism and Jews. I believe it was one of the founding fathers who said that a patriot is a hard thing to come by in the begining and then everyone joins him once his cause becomes popular.
I spent many a night, after a long trek home from work, in the freezing cold, on my computer, debating, fighting, fighting the information war for Israel, debunking Moslems. I must have made at least 10,000 individual posts on the internet defending Israel from eurotrash nazis and their moslem cohorts.
Now I see kike judenrat left wing Jews suddenly as "The voice" for this movement. These rotten kikes. They don't know what a republic is, they don't know what emancipation is, they don't know what "we the people" means, and lastly, they don't know jack excrement about Judaism.
Go and read the American constitution and the bill of rights. Then go and read a little about Jewish history. Learn a little bit about your people from an historical point of view.
How are Americans supposed to give a excrement about Israel? The fight is not for the shetachim!!! The fight is for the very FREEDOMS of the people of Israel. You can give a billion dollars to the settlers, the deep rooted marxist fascist government of Israel is going to give it away.
You keep feeding the beast, and you will not win. No, Israel is not the Or La'Amim, the American constitution is. You will never have a strong Israel if you do not have a strong America. Untill people like you and vancier get your heads out of your donkeys and realize this, than you are carrying on a futile war.
Yes, support Israel. But only if you are going to move there. If you are going to stay in America, then America comes first, and Israel second.
This jerk gets on here about once every 2/3 months. The last time he raved on about all the 'millions' Chaim makes out of JTF!
No. I posted once a year ago. A post to the tune of this one but it was immediately deleted by 'lisa' and I was subsequently banned.
Thanks for banning me. Next time try banning my IP address, you might have more luck, temporarily.
It's funny that someone who promoted JTF in it's internet infancy, someone who was the person responsible for spreading it accross message boards (Vancier started with his "post us on message boards" tirade after I, a very respected member of a large message board, advertised there on a constant basis), should now be banned from the long overdue jtf message board.
What's next, you're going to hire scientology's lawyers to stalk me?
BAHAHHAHAHAHAHA..another frustrated troll!!!! Ooooo, I'm scared.....oooooo I'm so offended..you hurting my feelings....awww you hate JTF...awww poor baby....you're coming with a fever..let me get my thermometer and stick it up your @ss! You will feel better afterwards.
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Why post on JTF GUTB?
It seems like you have a bad case of Sour Grapes.
If I believed what you do...I'd be a million miles away from here.
You'd better believe it. If you like, I can direct you to my countless usenet posts supporting JTF back in the day, and with more difficulty, my forum posts.
You should be a million miles away from here. JTF practices nothing of what it preaches. JTF's forums are like stalinist russia, if they don't like what you say it's a post delete plus ban.
I understand a need for moderation, I've been on the internet for quite a while, and rarely do you come across such a suppressive forum. The only thing JTF is good for is supporting the No'Ar Ha'Givaot financially, and for this I applaud them, but they are losing their core supporters such as myself because of megalomaniacal narcissism, failure to adapt, and a generally inadequate understanding of Jewish history.
I have to admit, I did learn quite a bit back from JTF, back in the day. JTF introduced me to Ben Hecht's Perfidy, and a lot of underlying causes of evil in the world. And that's why I am back here. I want to give back. But at the same time, I have supported JTF throughout this time, and I have received nothing but digested dog food in return.
Quit your shït. It's time for this movement to show it's balls. I've had enough of this maniacal screaming and yelling at stupidity. We need action now. The problems Israel face is caused by a much broader scope. The new world order. They manipulate us through our religion. Read about Jewish history.
Do you think circumcision is the same now as we did it originally? Hmm... Maybe the Herodian puppet régime of rome had something to do with it. You can start your history lesson by reading about a fellow named John Kellogg and then you can move on to Morris Fishbein.
The Constitution is of utmost importance but to compare it to the Torah the word of G-D is evil.And to call chaim a bogad is is shamefull
And you just prove my point by showing your ignorance. The constitution is BASED on the Torah. It was probably founded on deep talmudic understanding. The constitution is based on the basic definition of property.
Being the kind person that I am, I will foward you to a 5 hour lesson on the constitution by a gentleman named Michael Badnarik who was the candidate for the Libertarian Party way back when... Here you will learn about things like Allodial Titles, Automobile's Manufacturers Statements of Origin, and a lot of other things that might just save your little ignorant mind in the future:
Here is a link to a playlist I made for Windows Media Player for all seven parts, so they will play seamlessly, and you won't have to click on the next part once the first one finishes:
http://www.yourfilehost.com/media.php?cat=other&file=Michael_Badnarik__s_Class.wvx
And here is a direct link to the site, in case you don't trust my link:
http://www.archive.org/details/Michael_Badnarik
Thank you for unbanning my IP. I could have bypassed it with a proxy server, but I have become sick as of late from all this fighting I have been doing over tha past ten years, and quite frankly, I just don't have the energy today as I used to.
Awwww AnusT isn't over us...awww..poor baby...
Watch out the IRS and the FBI is on to you...RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!
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You seem to have quite a bit of energy to insult JTF. JTF allows people to speak on their forum at times far longer than they should. I have seen forums ban people for far less then you have said already. If you have something you feel is worth discussing you should do it in a civil way. People here will debate almost anything that is presented in a reasonable manor. Whats with all the smoke and mirrors (redundant accounts)? You say you were here in the past tell us who you were. JTF despite what you claim is one of the best forums around. The fact that you are overworking yourself trying to post here only proves that point.
To quote an infamous talmudic commentator who's name escapes me at this moment, you have the logic of a donkey. I thought fot a moment that it was the שב שמעתע(sp?), but it isn't.
Why you don't like JTF (or you do) ?
I don't like JTF anymore because it has turned into an emulation of some crazed fascistic cult. Judaism is about exploring the torah and not just the written torah but learn the sciences. Learn history, and learn about Jewish archaeology. Watch Simcha Jacobivici (Jacobivici conclusively proves that the first phonetic language was invented by the Jews, not the "Phoenicians" a barbaric sea-warring nation. American scientists fail to accept this for reasons known to us, my people. It's one of the episodes of The Naked Archaeologist and I can tell you witch one), study theories. Evolution....
I was born and raised ultra orthdox Lubavitch, btw.
The way I see it, one can't be both good for America and bad for Israel. Policies that are bad for Israel will eventually be detrimental to America as well. We are told: "I will bless them that bless you and curse them that curse you." A country that supposedly "defends it national interests" to the detriment of Israel is on the wrong track. G-d will punish it sooner or later. Any country's national interests should be in agreement with G-d's plan that involves Israel. People who talk about a supposed conflict between Israel's and America's interests must be secular. A national policy based on secularist reasoning will ultimately fail, I am sure.
You fail to understand a basic concept. You have a bunch of lab rats in America in a cage with a lynx and a bunch of labrats in a cage in Israel with a fox. Americans cannot support Israel when war veterans are coming back and being forced to live in homeless shelters. Get this through your thick skull.
Americans are fighting for their gulps of air just as we are. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS????
Why should an American Jew sacrifice his family's life to support Israel while the Israeli elitist billionaires will end up with that money and use it to destroy Israel even more.
We need a more constructive plan other than dealing with uneducated absolutisms.
raised ultra orthodox who's comment escapes you at this moment and his name...BAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA :::D
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Oh great we got another troll.. IF SOME PEOPLE CAN'T MAKE UP THEIR OWN MIND THATS THEIR PROBLEM
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I think the point Coulter was trying to make was that If McCain recieves the Republican nomination there not gonna be a huge difference between him and Clinton....
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GUTB is most likely a Bnei Elim or Revava troll.
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I think the point Coulter was trying to make was that If McCain the the Republican nomination there not gonna be a huge difference between him and Clinton....
And I agree 100% with Coulter on this. I WILL vote for Hitlery over that devil McCain.
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Is there a way to IP ban this guy?
He clearly has no reason to be here other than to troll around the forum and attack Chaim and JTF senselessly.
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Is there a way to IP ban this guy?
He clearly has no reason to be here other than to troll around the forum and attack Chaim and JTF senselessly.
you don't want to ban C.F. do you :-\
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Is there a way to IP ban this guy?
He clearly has no reason to be here other than to troll around the forum and attack Chaim and JTF senselessly.
you don't want to ban C.F. do you :-\
Ha ha, Ambiorix. I was talking about GUTB.
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Is there a way to IP ban this guy?
He clearly has no reason to be here other than to troll around the forum and attack Chaim and JTF senselessly.
you don't want to ban C.F. do you :-\
Ha ha, Ambiorix. I was talking about GUTB.
I was chocked at first :o
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Romney is a pragmatist, but I don't think he has the stomach to be a leftist. I think if elected he would be decent--an improvement over Bush.
McCain, on the other hand, is a pure leftist Nazi. I see zero difference between him and Hitlery, except that the former is a lot more popular.
I would DEFINITELY vote for her over that Vietcong-loving war "hero".
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Coulter is right, have you read the article she wrote on the subject? http://anncoulter.com (http://anncoulter.com)
Her whole point is that McCain is worse than Hillary, for the following reason, he will do all the same left wing liberal crap that Hillary will do; But at least with Hillary in power, these disasterous policies and their inevitible consiquences will be blamed on the left wing Democrats, with McCain in power, those same disasterous policies will be blamed on the conservatives, even though they are absolutely not conservative policies, they are the left wing RINO McCain policies.
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I think the point Coulter was trying to make was that If McCain the the Republican nomination there not gonna be a huge difference between him and Clinton....
And I agree 100% with Coulter on this. I WILL vote for Hitlery over that devil McCain.
That's pretty low.
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Coulter is right, have you read the article she wrote on the subject? http://anncoulter.com (http://anncoulter.com)
Her whole point is that McCain is worse than Hillary, for the following reason, he will do all the same left wing liberal crap that Hillary will do; But at least with Hillary in power, these disasterous policies and their inevitible consiquences will be blamed on the left wing Democrats, with McCain in power, those same disasterous policies will be blamed on the conservatives, even though they are absolutely not conservative policies, they are the left wing RINO McCain policies.
Hillary is a socialist...McCain is a liberal...but he definately isn't a socialist...
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I see Romney and McCain as opposite sides of the same coin--phony conservatives, but both much better than Hillary who is unabashedly far-left. That would be insane if Ann Coulter actually campaigns for her. It would be funny if the situation weren't so dire. Huckabee is the only one left in the race that is anywhere close to being a conservative. No matter what happens now, the next president will be worse than Bush.
How can you say this? What makes Juan McPhony "better" than Hitlery? How do you figure that she is worse?
--Hanoi John wants our troops to continue to die like dogs in Iraq, Hitlery wants to send them all home now and let al-Qaeda win
--Hanoi John says our soldiers are all torturers
--Hanoi John helped the North Vietnamese while in prison and he then supported John Kerry when he was calling our troops "baby-killers" and marching for the Vietcong
--Hanoi John supports unlimited abortion, just like Hitlery
--Hanoi John and Hitlery both want legalization and the erasure of our borders
--Hanoi John and Hitlery are both Israel-haters, but John has a phony rep for being "pro-Israel", and thus Israel is much more likely to be bullied by him
--Hanoi John and Hitlery both oppose energy independence and are "global warming" freaks
--Hanoi John and Hitlery both would force states to accept fag marriages
--Hanoi John and Hitlery both want to ban guns
--Hanoi John and Hitlery are both anti-Serb, but McCain is worse on this issue
There you have it--ask Chaim. On all issues they are equally abhorrent, but on some of them John McAmnesty is worse. In general, Hanoi John is worse because people will all fall in lockstep behind his plans, whereas half of the public and Congress will always hate and fight against Hillary.
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I see Romney and McCain as opposite sides of the same coin--phony conservatives, but both much better than Hillary who is unabashedly far-left. That would be insane if Ann Coulter actually campaigns for her. It would be funny if the situation weren't so dire. Huckabee is the only one left in the race that is anywhere close to being a conservative. No matter what happens now, the next president will be worse than Bush.
How can you say this? What makes Juan McPhony "better" than Hitlery? How do you figure that she is worse?
--Hanoi John wants our troops to continue to die like dogs in Iraq, Hitlery wants to send them all home now and let al-Qaeda win
--Hanoi John says our soldiers are all torturers
--Hanoi John helped the North Vietnamese while in prison and he then supported John Kerry when he was calling our troops "baby-killers" and marching for the Vietcong
--Hanoi John supports unlimited abortion, just like Hitlery
--Hanoi John and Hitlery both want legalization and the erasure of our borders
--Hanoi John and Hitlery are both Israel-haters, but John has a phony rep for being "pro-Israel", and thus Israel is much more likely to be bullied by him
--Hanoi John and Hitlery both oppose energy independence and are "global warming" freaks
--Hanoi John and Hitlery both would force states to accept fag marriages
--Hanoi John and Hitlery both want to ban guns
--Hanoi John and Hitlery are both anti-Serb, but McCain is worse on this issue
There you have it--ask Chaim. On all issues they are equally abhorrent, but on some of them John McAmnesty is worse. In general, Hanoi John is worse because people will all fall in lockstep behind his plans, whereas half of the public and Congress will always hate and fight against Hillary.
Actually Mccains gun reputation is better than Clintons though he claims he wants to ban "some assault weapons", still better than Romney but I wouldn't vote for Mccain or Romney anyways. I don't trust either of them and i'll be damned if I ever vote for a socialist dyke or a negro unless it's Alan Keyes.
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You are proving his point by banning him. I say let him stay. I we are so "right" then we should be able to debate any person who comes here, instead it seems like opponents are banned. It is a sign of weakness on our part. It also makes our moderators appear to be paranoid power hungry passive aggressive losers. I agree with what MassuhDGoodName had to say earlier in this thread.
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You are proving his point by banning him. I say let him stay. I we are so "right" then we should be able to debate any person who comes here, instead it seems like opponents are banned. It is a sign of weakness on our part. It also makes our moderators appear to be paranoid power hungry passive aggressive losers.
I agree
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Hanoi John voted to ban partial birth abortions and opposes Roe v Wade, Hitlery is pro-abortion.
Hanoi John is always talking about controlling spending and keeping tax cuts permanent, Hitlery wants to give $5000 to every baby and increase taxes in order to socialize health care.
Hanoi John voted for an amendment banning flag desecration, Hitlery voted against it, and burns it as a regular ritual
Hanoi John is against adding homosexuality to the list of protected groups for hate crimes, Hitlery is for it and even marched in a gay pride parade
Hanoi John is rated 0% by the ACLU, Hitlery is rated 60%
Hanoi John is rated 7% by the NAACP, Hitlery is rated 96%
Hanoi John is against gun control, Hitlery is for it
Hanoi John is rooting for America to win in Iraq, Hitlery is rooting for Al Qaeda.
So if it's a tossup between the 2, I'll be holding my nose and voting for Hanoi John, who is not good but is the clear lesser of the evils. Plus I'm in the navy and Hanoi John would increase my pay, which will be good for JTF, unless of course JTF ends up endorsing Hitlery. Ann Crusader no longer has credibility with me.
lol, JTF endorsing Hitlery!!! >:( >:( >:( :o :o :o
:D
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You are proving his point by banning him. I say let him stay. I we are so "right" then we should be able to debate any person who comes here, instead it seems like opponents are banned. It is a sign of weakness on our part. It also makes our moderators appear to be paranoid power hungry passive aggressive losers. I agree with what MassuhDGoodName had to say earlier in this thread.
Agreed.
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The whole idea of voting in Hitlery is giving the liberal leftist socialists enough rope to hang themselves. 4 years of Jimmy Carter gave us 8 years of Reagan, and 4 years of Bush Sr; The idea being 4 years of Hitlery and her disasterous policies will give us at least another 12 years of Conservatives running the Whitehouse starting in 2012.
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Dan, where do you get that information from? McCain SUPPORTS federal gay marriage, OPPOSES pro-life demonstrators, SUPPORTS gun control at all times, and has always opposed Bush's tax cuts. It seems like you have been reading his propaganda a bit too much.
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Yacov, it is not that hard to learn a little Hebrew. Some of the Whorefront trolls we banned last spring even knew a little Hebrew. You can't say Anus-T knows no Hebrew, because it is possible he picked up some in order to be more credible when he makes bogus claims about the Talmud.
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Dan, where do you get that information from? McCain SUPPORTS federal gay marriage, OPPOSES pro-life demonstrators, SUPPORTS gun control at all times, and has always opposed Bush's tax cuts. It seems like you have been reading his propaganda a bit too much.
that makes McCain a liberal..not a socialist.
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Yacov, it is not that hard to learn a little Hebrew. Some of the Whorefront trolls we banned last spring even knew a little Hebrew. You can't say Anus-T knows no Hebrew, because it is possible he picked up some in order to be more credible when he makes bogus claims about the Talmud.
Exactly he wanted to sound credible! Therefore even Whorefront Nazis know a little Hebrew to argue their WN cause
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Dan, where do you get that information from? McCain SUPPORTS federal gay marriage, OPPOSES pro-life demonstrators, SUPPORTS gun control at all times, and has always opposed Bush's tax cuts. It seems like you have been reading his propaganda a bit too much.
that makes McCain a liberal..not a socialist.
gay marriage -> supported by social democrats in europe
abortion, "on simple demand" -> supported by social democrats in europe
gun ban -> supported by social democrats in europe
tax about 50% -> supported by social democrats in europe
what 's not socialist about him?
Liberal i Europe has an entire different connotion in europe than in the USA,
It is (was) anti-socialist, pro-free-enterpreneurship, laisser-faire state,...
In the USA liberal means pro-punk/gay/illigals etc i suppose?
that's more what the greens are standing for over here.
We have social democrats, liberals, christian-democrats, greens, new-right and nationalist parties over here.
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Dan, where do you get that information from? McCain SUPPORTS federal gay marriage, OPPOSES pro-life demonstrators, SUPPORTS gun control at all times, and has always opposed Bush's tax cuts. It seems like you have been reading his propaganda a bit too much.
that makes McCain a liberal..not a socialist.
gay marriage -> supported by social democrats in europe
abortion, "on simple demand" -> supported by social democrats in europe
gun ban -> supported by social democrats in europe
tax about 50% -> supported by social democrats in europe
what 's not socialist about him?
Liberal i Europe has an entire different connotion in europe than in the USA,
It is (was) anti-socialist, pro-free-enterpreneurship, laisser-faire state,...
In the USA liberal means pro-punk/gay/illigals etc i suppose?
that's more what the greens are standing for over here.
We have social democrats, liberals, christian-democrats, greens, new-right and nationalist parties over here.
Liberals are Liberals SSocialists are SSocialists, some Liberals are rather in a SSocialist continuum.
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It's a shame that GUTB was banned. He probably had more useful things to say that could have been advantageous. Since when was it JTF's policy to ban dissenters? When did Chaim ever say that we shouldn't debate dissenters and we should ban them instead. We've debated against proselytizing Muslims, surely we can allow an ex-JTF Jew who clearly wants the best for Israel to remain on the forum. Chaim has said many times on ASK JTF that forum members who completely disagree with Chaim are welcome to do so.
It seems like people are getting banned now for creating any level of discomfort, which isn't in line with JTF's banning policies or anything that Chaim has said in the past.
As for how GUTB could be mistaken for Anus-T is beyond me.
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I don't see the personal atacks on Chaim and our Jewish members as deabate, whoever GBT was, Allen T, Adam 613 or Babilonian Jew. Ann Coulter although a phony herself is right, Honest John is FATAH and Hitlery is HAMAS for republicans,and we shud alwayas take honest enemy over phony friend who will give the Barak Hussain Usama victory on silver plate in 2012. For Israel the Hitlery woud be better... no better lesser evil too with less buling power and backstab ability than another NWO pushing "republican".
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I would much rather support Hillary or Obama than any of the republicans. My rational is that democrats are going to be so disastrous that they will usher a true conservative to run for presidency. BEsides, JTF will probably grow faster under the lesbian or hidden muslim. Perhaps Ann is driven by similar logic.
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I would much rather support Hillary or Obama than any of the republicans. My rational is that democrats are going to be so disastrous that they will usher a true conservative to run for presidency. BEsides, JTF will probably grow faster under the lesbian or hidden muslim. Perhaps Ann is driven by similar logic.
Here is another way to look at Hillery. By the time the liberal left segment of the Democrat party gets done bashing her brains in and favoring Obama over her she will be so annoyed with them she may actually move over to the right and support some conservative issues to pay them back.
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Ann coulter supports hillary? :o
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http://www.ontheissues.org/John_McCain.htm
http://www.ontheissues.org/Hillary_Clinton.htm
Notice that if you line those issues up side by side, McCain's record, although flawed, is not to the same extent of anti-American that Hillary's is. At least McCain pretends to be a conservative by voting that way from time to time.
I am not going to trust anything that a pro-McCain mass media Bolshevik political website says about the candidates' stands, and you hit the nail on the head when you said that he pretends to be a conservative.
As president, he won't need to kiss up to fellow Republicans anymore. If he wins, get ready for four or eight years that make Slick Willie's reign resemble a walk in the park.
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GUTB2, are you still Lubavitch?
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clearly an Israeli leftist, possibly peace now, maybe Olmert's daughter. Sorry but daddy is going to lose his nice position!
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I'll vote for the one who at least pretended to be conservative at some points in their voting record and hope they'll be pressured by their base to move further right. This will go for Romney too if he gets the nomination.
Dan, you are crazy, and you are putting WAY too much stock in a Bolshevist media voting guide. Your compulsive defense of McCain is starting to resemble C4J's sick obsession with Huckabee.
Why are you so unwilling to listen to Chaim and everybody else on the forum?
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Exactly, now that the true "Huckabee" is revealed and is supporting McCain, he's fooled alot of people. The candidates are all terrible, but at least with Romney he might not entirely ruin the country, and there is at least some hope. It's always the lesser of the two evils, unless JTF becomes a mass movement!
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I don't think Romney would be terrible. I think he would probably be somewhat of an improvement over Bush. Not spectacular, but decent.
He is a pragmatist who won't psychotically pursue anything.
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So Huckabee wasn't even sincere about Israel and energy independence?
I certainly think he is. He's still the best candidate, even if things don't look good for him, and one has to wonder if Romney is really any better than McCain.
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I'll vote for the one who at least pretended to be conservative at some points in their voting record and hope they'll be pressured by their base to move further right. This will go for Romney too if he gets the nomination.
Dan, you are crazy, and you are putting WAY too much stock in a Bolshevist media voting guide. Your compulsive defense of McCain is starting to resemble C4J's sick obsession with Huckabee.
Why are you so unwilling to listen to Chaim and everybody else on the forum?
for the record, CF is not referring to me, Dr. Dan, but to Dan ben Noah
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Yes, Dr. Dan (better known as Dannycookie) is right. I didn't mean him.
I don't think Romney is a truly sincere conservative, but he isn't a truly sincere liberal either. He is a pragmatist--a guy who does what he can as circumstances see fit. Since he sees that the public detests amnesty, I think he could be probably be relied on to at least preserve the status quo regarding illegal immigration. He probably would not do much to alter the abortion and gay marriage situations either.
Yacov, I don't know what, if any, of Huckster's proposals are for real. As far as I am concerned, he is a lot less trustworthy than Romney, especially now that he's basically come out for McCain. I told everyone here at JTF that one year ago he was telling everyone the Fakestinians have been kicked off their land for no reason, and nobody took it seriously. If he had the audacity to say he was pro-Israel just six months after that, then I doubt everything he says.
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JTF is now opposed to Ann Coulter.
Hoorayyyyyy!!! I was opposed to that liberal feminazi before anyone else was.. Look at this video of Coulter cheering on Clinton like she is a great conservative politician.. She is ragging on McCain saying how dumb he is, compared to Clinton, who of couse is much "smarter" then McCain. hmm, perhaps because she is a "woman" like Coulter? Lets face the fact, that women who take the stage rather see their own kind on top then defend true facts, like Clinton is a two-faced, double-talking liar and that she is even half as half -hearted and intelligent as McCain. Gun slinging chicks like Coulter don't do it for me. I personally am more attrracted to Laura Bush; sorry I know I am bit goofy, but I know she won't be endorsing Clinton. The only person more stupid than Clinton would be OBama. But Clinton really made an donkey of herself during the election campaign to with her dumb remarks, ranging from MLK to Kennedy. Let us not forget her not-so-heroic experience of dodging gunfire that never existed in Bosnia. "Go Hillary, she is more brave than McCain!" I can hear Coulter saying it now. I mean she just is half-witted and just doesn't look where the banana peel is lying. I think Obama of course it the king of the clowns. McCain is yet to make a fool of himself, which is amazing seeing how the liberals are on his behind like maggots on a rotting turd and that McCain has plenty of skeletons in his closet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuTqgqhxVMc
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I think the point Coulter was trying to make was that If McCain the the Republican nomination there not gonna be a huge difference between him and Clinton....
And I agree 100% with Coulter on this. I WILL vote for Hitlery over that devil McCain.
So would I. I will vote for whoever the Republican is unless it is McCain in which case I would vote for Hitlery. However, if McCain is running against Barach Hussin Osama, I'll vote for McCain.
How could a Jew vote for any person who he would refer to as "Hitler" , Hiltery? Sounds unsettling and ignorant on your part.. Anyhow, if Hitlery is in power, people will still blame Republicans for all the world's problems, so better to let McSame in power and avoid the hell of this Jew hating, half-witted witch... After watching her try to chug down drinks in a bar with the local blue collar boys, I just knew that Mary Poppins would have been a better candidate, more sincere; not quite as pathetic. Do we really need the Muslims to have a nuclear picnic so soon?
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Well there is no point of arguing since Hitlery endorsed Osama. She's a traitor and should fight until the end. It seems JTF is more upset about her loosing that she is and we don't even like her.
Good point.
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Who is Coulter Ben Pesach????!!!!!!!
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Who is Coulter Ben Pesach????!!!!!!!
Chaim's wayward sister.
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Obama's candidacy to be "The First Mulatto" President of The United States of America has put the shine back on a political slogan long in disuse:
Beware the Yellow Peril
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JTF is now opposed to Ann Coulter.
JTf is inconsistant. JTF has come to appoint where it is NOT in American's best interest to support Israel. That's why I personally have chosen Israel over America.
Get a clue. It is against the entire world's interest to support ANYTHING the traitorous leftist fifth column running Israel right now wants to do. They are globalists who want to destroy Israel. This is against our interest, and against the American people's interest. JTF isn't about blindly "supporting the state of Israel." If the govt does something evil, we don't support it. We support THE JEWISH PEOPLE and the JEWS LIVING IN ISRAEL. To support that, we all know the basics (no land give-aways, no surrendering to Muslims, no phony peace agreements, no letting missiles rain down on your citizens). This would be a truly strong state of Israel that we in JTF support. With a strong Israel like that, it IS in the interests of America and the rest of the free world for Israel to stand up to the terrorist Muslims.
In the current state of affairs, the traitorous Israeli govt works in the same interests as the traitorous globalist elements of the American govt and multinational corporations. This is not in the interests of JTF and the Jewish people OR the American people.
Stop trying to obfuscate the issue and confuse people.
You can't have dual loyalties.
A classic neo-Nazi's rallying cry. We don't have dual anything.
Another thing, Vancier's prediction in 2002 was that Jeb Bush would get the Republican nomination after Jorgé was done with his fascistic reign. He was wrong.
So? Did you think he was a prophet? Tool.
And years from now we may still see Jeb get a nomination. The Bush family has a lot of power.
We have to keep in mind that Vancier (Ben Pesach) could be working for someone else now.
Huh? LOL. Another scare tactic, huh? If CHAIM is working for someone doing all these great things he does, then I like whatever person he is working for.
He could have been subverted
Or you could be a paranoid idiot. I'll go with the latter.
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Do you think circumcision is the same now as we did it originally? Hmm... Maybe the Herodian puppet régime of rome had something to do with it. You can start your history lesson by reading about a fellow named John Kellogg and then you can move on to Morris Fishbein.
LOL another ridiculous lie. The Herodian regime of Rome did not manipulate the Jews to change their religious practices or beliefs. In fact, hundreds of thousands of Jews DIED FIGHTING AGAINST ROME to defend these beliefs. There were times when certain practices were outlawed and had to be practiced in secret or in private (for example, Shabbat) as outright persecution of the Jews, but never did Rome instruct our rabbis or the Jews on how they should change the way they do a given mitzvot nor would they ever concede to such pressure or instruction even if it did exist (which it didn't). This "theory" of yours is out of the "shape-shifter reptilians came down from Mars and stole the whitehouse" category. Ironically you cite John Kellogg and Morris fishbein to support your lie about circumcision when Kellogg has been shown to not know what he's talking about specifically on that topic, and fishbein is a guy who failed anatomy in med school.
While we are at it, why don't we cite Galen or Hippocrates to explain why current physicians don't know what they are doing. ;D
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How can you betray me Chaim? I used to be a loyal follower.
בגדת בי. בגדת בי
:'( :'( :'(
Loyal follower? I HIGHLY doubt that!
Besides, its not Chaim's fault that Coulter would rather be pro hiltary than pro-McCain.
Me too ;D
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Hmph.
"Coulter ben Pesach" I suppose you received my email ANN >:(. You DID say that you were going to campaign for Hillary. GET GOING. Where is SHE now?
Why did you NOT CONFRONT McCain, ONE ON ONE? What? No publicity? How many times did Chaim & David ask Queen Ann to come to JTF? You were a LOTAL follower? PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.
"Ann" if that is YOU.....you dont even hold a candle to Chaim ben Pesach or David ben Moshe, see, "Ann" they DONT WANT to save this nation, and make a BUCK while they are trying to do it. Thats the DIFFERENCE.
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Honestly you must be kidding. What exactly are you trying to say here. Its plain to see your only mission here is to insult Chaim. Find yourself some other place to play. Unless you have a better argument we are not buying your garbage.
You're a disgrace to Judaism and Jews. I believe it was one of the founding fathers who said that a patriot is a hard thing to come by in the begining and then everyone joins him once his cause becomes popular.
I spent many a night, after a long trek home from work, in the freezing cold, on my computer, debating, fighting, fighting the information war for Israel, debunking Moslems. I must have made at least 10,000 individual posts on the internet defending Israel from eurotrash nazis and their moslem cohorts.
Now I see kike judenrat left wing Jews suddenly as "The voice" for this movement. These rotten kikes. They don't know what a republic is, they don't know what emancipation is, they don't know what "we the people" means, and lastly, they don't know jack excrement about Judaism.
Go and read the American constitution and the bill of rights. Then go and read a little about Jewish history. Learn a little bit about your people from an historical point of view.
How are Americans supposed to give a excrement about Israel? The fight is not for the shetachim!!! The fight is for the very FREEDOMS of the people of Israel. You can give a billion dollars to the settlers, the deep rooted marxist fascist government of Israel is going to give it away.
You keep feeding the beast, and you will not win. No, Israel is not the Or La'Amim, the American constitution is. You will never have a strong Israel if you do not have a strong America. Untill people like you and vancier get your heads out of your donkeys and realize this, than you are carrying on a futile war.
Yes, support Israel. But only if you are going to move there. If you are going to stay in America, then America comes first, and Israel second.
This jerk gets on here about once every 2/3 months. The last time he raved on about all the 'millions' Chaim makes out of JTF!
No. I posted once a year ago. A post to the tune of this one but it was immediately deleted by 'lisa' and I was subsequently banned.
Thanks for banning me. Next time try banning my IP address, you might have more luck, temporarily.
It's funny that someone who promoted JTF in it's internet infancy, someone who was the person responsible for spreading it accross message boards (Vancier started with his "post us on message boards" tirade after I, a very respected member of a large message board, advertised there on a constant basis), should now be banned from the long overdue jtf message board.
What's next, you're going to hire scientology's lawyers to stalk me?
Wow... this person needs a serious dose of lithium.
Did you join the Daily KOS?
I, personally am for USA first. I get banned EVERYWHERE now, I'm not holding some personal vendetta for it. WHY ARE YOU? And, you KNEW about Ann, long b4 everyone else? Well, here is YOUR dose of reality from a PATRIOT of USA.. IF you ARE on The AMERICA STREET, you don't admonish those who are fighting FOR IT. I tell people CONSTANTLY that Ann is all about $. So, you are not the only one who has seen this. Your remarks are WHY you get yourself banned. So, the Q is, how much time do you spend on PALTALK? ;) because, according to this post, it looks as thoughyou LIVE there. Are we suppose to be "offended" that you know Chaims name in "English?" WHY dont you take this "TYPE" fight up with BARACK HUSSEIN MOHAMMED OBAMA- whos OTHER name is BARRY SOETORO. The movie Moonstruck comes to mind here to me, with this "BRAVE" poster... "SNAP OUT OF IT"
If you WANT to HELP America, THIS is NOT the place to dump on people. And if you are a "MAN" you have DISGRACED yourself, by attacking a WOMAN. GROW UP.