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Title: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 05, 2008, 06:30:57 AM
10pm tonight my time I got a text message from my son, he said ring me ma!

I rang him, he told me to sit down.

I said I am driving, he said pull over this is important.

So I did, I was very worried. Then he told me........

I am going to be a GRANDMA!!!!  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

G-d be praised I am going to be a grandma! I am so happy!!!!  :) :) :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: newman on March 05, 2008, 06:37:33 AM
Congrat's, Skip! O0

Have you bought your walking frame and poo bag yet?
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 05, 2008, 06:42:14 AM
Thanks Newman  :) :)

Oh I know its weird I told them don't have sex until your 45! and look what happens, they never listen to me  :::D :::D
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Dr. Dan on March 05, 2008, 07:14:04 AM
 :laugh:
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Post by: abdithefaithful on March 05, 2008, 07:15:01 AM
Congratulations... You are most fortunate.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 05, 2008, 07:21:39 AM
Thanks Doc and abdithefaithful.

Best news I have had in long time.  :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Boeregeneraal on March 05, 2008, 08:54:24 AM
ooooooh!!!! This is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations dear skippy!!!

May G-D bless you, your son and his new fammily. May your Grandson ( O0 O0 O0 ) be born strong and healthy!

 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: mord on March 05, 2008, 09:12:20 AM
Congratulations your son did a good job O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 05, 2008, 09:48:06 AM
Thank you Boere and Mord.

Boere I don't care if its  a boy or a girl.  :::D :::D

Its another Skip  :D
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Rubystars on March 05, 2008, 10:02:16 AM
That's great Skippy! Congrats!

There was a bumper sticker I saw once, which although kind of corny, still made me laugh the first time I saw it. It said "If I would have known grandchildren were this much fun, I would have had them first!"
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: briann on March 05, 2008, 11:28:58 AM
congrats!!!!!!!!!!   Just remember, you have an awesome responsibility now of spoiling your grandkids as much as humanly possible!!!! :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: RationalThought110 on March 05, 2008, 11:31:08 AM
How old is your child?
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Ulli on March 05, 2008, 04:15:07 PM
Congratulations Skippy.  :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Ari on March 05, 2008, 04:44:44 PM
Baruch HaShem Skippy.  This is wonderful news.  Congrats mate. O0
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Jasmina on March 05, 2008, 04:47:29 PM
  I thought you are 19 y/o!!!  ???
  CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: MarZutra on March 05, 2008, 04:50:53 PM
Mazel tov O0
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Sarah on March 05, 2008, 05:01:19 PM
Cool. O0
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 05, 2008, 06:59:19 PM
  I thought you are 19 y/o!!!  ???
  CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No  :::D But any thank you  8;) :) :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: דוד בן זאב אריה on March 05, 2008, 07:04:15 PM
Mazol Tov. Congrad. Great News I am very happy for you
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 05, 2008, 07:07:02 PM
Isn't he your step son and not your biological son? You're too young to be a grandmother. And is the mother of the baby Jewish?



Yacov I am so happy, and I don't care about being called a Grandma. Tho I would of like it when I was much older. He is my adoptive son, which is the same as my biological child, there is no difference in my life what so ever. And no she is not Jewish, I don't like her, she is a nutcase, but she is carrying my grandchild.

That is all that matters.  8;) ;)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 05, 2008, 07:07:48 PM
How old is your child?

He is 20.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 05, 2008, 07:10:15 PM
Thank you Ruby, briann, Golden Pheasant, Ari, Sarah and David Ben Ze'ev Aryeh   :) :) :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Ambiorix on March 05, 2008, 07:19:11 PM
Great news Skippy! I wish the mother and father the best luck!
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 05, 2008, 07:25:50 PM
Great news Skippy! I wish the mother and father the best luck!

Thanks Ambiorix I think they are going to need it.   ^-^
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: nessuno on March 05, 2008, 07:28:31 PM
I think it is great to be a young grandparent.  O0
Congratulations Skippy.
That is really wonderful news.
May the baby be happy and healthy.  :)

Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 05, 2008, 07:37:32 PM
Thank you Bullcat, that is my only hope now too, as long as the baby is healthy.  O0

Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: bullcat jr. on March 05, 2008, 07:43:41 PM
(http://i261.photobucket.com/albums/ii63/mersocal/Congratulations.gif)
We are so happy for you.

Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 05, 2008, 07:45:24 PM
Thank you Bullcat Jr  :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Vito on March 05, 2008, 10:19:04 PM
Congrats! Uff, 20? They're kids themselves, are they married?
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 05, 2008, 11:39:13 PM
Congrats! Uff, 20? They're kids themselves, are they married?

NO they are not married, and he was told medically he was firing blanks so to speak. Its really a gift thats for sure. And Yes 100% positive it is his.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Dan on March 05, 2008, 11:39:42 PM
Congratulations Skippy!  :)
  Having children is a blessing, and having grandchildren is twice as nice.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 05, 2008, 11:40:04 PM
So why did he get a Gentile woman pregnant?

You said he's a convert because his biological mother isn't Jewish. So why isn't he an observant Jew? Converts have to be observant Jews.



That does not matter. Yacov , only the baby does.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 05, 2008, 11:41:40 PM
Congratulations Skippy!  :)
  Having children is a blessing, and having grandchildren is twice as nice.

Thanks Dan, I can't wait ...damn it takes so long  :D

It will be so good for the family, I am already thinking of wait to buy the little one  :) :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: ASHISH on March 06, 2008, 12:04:40 AM
Congrats skippy O0 is it a boy or a girl :P
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: MasterWolf1 on March 06, 2008, 12:24:23 AM
Congrats thats great news!
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 01:02:59 AM
Thanks cosmokramer, MasterWolf1, and ASHISH. And its too early to tell at the moment.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: FULL METAL JACKET on March 06, 2008, 01:07:07 AM
Congrats, great news.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: JTFFan on March 06, 2008, 02:15:51 AM
Congratulations Skippy, may G-d Bless you as a grandma and your grandson O0 O0 O0

May G-d bring you happiness and someday be a great-grandma O0 O0 O0
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 02:44:03 AM
Thanks FULL METAL JACKET and JTFFan  ;) :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Just Erica on March 06, 2008, 03:15:38 AM
Congratulations, Skippy! I am so happy for you all!!! :D
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 03:45:53 AM
Congratulations, Skippy! I am so happy for you all!!! :D

Thanks Erica it is great timing I have two nephews that are just about 1 year old, so it will be good for them too, growing up as a family.  :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: MarZutra on March 06, 2008, 05:04:02 PM
Am I correct in saying that your daughter is not married and just had a child out of wedlock with a non-Jew? 
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Just Erica on March 06, 2008, 05:41:45 PM
Am I correct in saying that your daughter is not married and just had a child out of wedlock with a non-Jew? 
First off (sorry Skippy...), it's Skippy's adopted son...second, she just said it doesn't matter to her. She's excited to be a grandmother. Let her have that.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: SerbChicago on March 06, 2008, 06:55:39 PM
Congratulations!
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 07:06:45 PM
Am I correct in saying that your daughter is not married and just had a child out of wedlock with a non-Jew? 

My adopted son, is non married, and is having a baby with a Gentile yes.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 07:08:40 PM
Am I correct in saying that your daughter is not married and just had a child out of wedlock with a non-Jew? 
First off (sorry Skippy...), it's Skippy's adopted son...second, she just said it doesn't matter to her. She's excited to be a grandmother. Let her have that.

Thank you Erica and 1000% correct  O0

And he now is getting scared, well I said you can't undo the deed now  ;)

But blood tests came back the mother is healthy and so is the baby.  O0
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 07:09:07 PM
Congratulations!

Thank you SC  :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Jasmina on March 06, 2008, 07:10:55 PM
  You'll be a very, very cool grandmother!!!!
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: MarZutra on March 06, 2008, 07:11:15 PM
What the Hell's the matter with you Erica?  I simply asked a very applicable question from a purely Jewish point of view, which you have no knowledge nor edification in.  You are one self-righteous individual you know that?  What fcuking balls you have!  If you had some semblance of knowledge in Judaism you'd understand my question...    I’m not even going to dignify further your pompous comment with any semblance of response.....  
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Just Erica on March 06, 2008, 07:17:57 PM
What the Hell's the matter with you Erica?  I simply asked a very applicable question from a purely Jewish point of view, which you have no knowledge nor edification in.  You are one self-righteous individual you know that?  What fcuking balls you have!  If you had some semblance of knowledge in Judaism you'd understand my question...    I’m not even going to dignify further your pompous comment with any semblance of response.....  

My point is that Skippy answered the question 3 times before I even responded and you didn't bother to even read them. Stop bashing her and her family because a child was concieved in a way you wouldn't approve of. I'm not self-righteous, I just HATE IT when people are unfairly targeted and bashed. You need help...get over your anger issues, Marzutra.

Skippy has stood up for me on many an  occasion, I'm honored to do the same for her. No matter what, she will be a proud grandmother.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 07:21:50 PM
What the Hell's the matter with you Erica?  I simply asked a very applicable question from a purely Jewish point of view, which you have no knowledge nor edification in.  You are one self-righteous individual you know that?  What fcuking balls you have!  If you had some semblance of knowledge in Judaism you'd understand my question...    I’m not even going to dignify further your pompous comment with any semblance of response..... 


I do understand what you were meaning, and even with the situation as it is, its far from ideal. The girl in question I do not like one bit, and had spoken to Doc to try and work out how I could get rid of her, out of his life.

Honestly she is a nutcase.

My son doesn't want to follow some things in life, regardless how I have tried to teach him. What can I do, but accept what has happened.

Ideally he had a nice girl two months ago, but he didn't want to commit to her, had relations with this one, and bingo theres a baby.

The fact is my son was told he could never sire children. I was far from pleased when it was first claimed.

Until the blood tests returned, its truly a blessing from G-d this child is here at all.

And I have to accept the mother regardless. Its very much like if you child comes home and says its married a one legged, humped back, aids infested muslim.

What can you do?

Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Just Erica on March 06, 2008, 07:22:08 PM
Am I correct in saying that your daughter is not married and just had a child out of wedlock with a non-Jew? 
First off (sorry Skippy...), it's Skippy's adopted son...second, she just said it doesn't matter to her. She's excited to be a grandmother. Let her have that.

Thank you Erica and 1000% correct  O0

And he now is getting scared, well I said you can't undo the deed now  ;)

But blood tests came back the mother is healthy and so is the baby.  O0
I'm glad all is well with the baby and mom, SKippy. I know you can't wait for all of the spoiling to begin. What a lucky babe they will be. :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 07:24:36 PM
  You'll be a very, very cool grandmother!!!!

I am hoping to be a groovy grandma. My mum is please as punch too, her first Great Grand child.  :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 07:26:29 PM
Am I correct in saying that your daughter is not married and just had a child out of wedlock with a non-Jew? 
First off (sorry Skippy...), it's Skippy's adopted son...second, she just said it doesn't matter to her. She's excited to be a grandmother. Let her have that.

Thank you Erica and 1000% correct  O0

And he now is getting scared, well I said you can't undo the deed now  ;)

But blood tests came back the mother is healthy and so is the baby.  O0
I'm glad all is well with the baby and mom, SKippy. I know you can't wait for all of the spoiling to begin. What a lucky babe they will be. :)

Well I have already gone shopping  :-[ :-[

I am making a few bunny rugs  8;)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: MarZutra on March 06, 2008, 07:34:24 PM
My point is that Skippy answered the question 3 times before I even responded and you didn't bother to even read them. Stop bashing her and her family because a child was concieved in a way you wouldn't approve of. I'm not self-righteous, I just HATE IT when people are unfairly targeted and bashed. You need help...get over your anger issues, Marzutra.

Skippy has stood up for me on many an  occasion, I'm honored to do the same for her. No matter what, she will be a proud grandmother.
Not only pompous but fcuking ignorant.  Perhaps read, attempt to understand prior to posting would help.  

Firstly, if this was commented it wasn't/isn't anywhere near my post because I simply read one of the other posts.  Secondly, I did not bash anyone, I simply posed a question.  Do you even know the difference between a statement and a question?  Something you might aught to learn prior to teaching don't you think?  You are right about one thing, I do not approve of such.  It seems as though I'm on the wrong site.  I thought this was a Jewish: Judaism site....ibid.  How is it "targeting" when I simply asked a question and she is centered on this fcuking thread?  

Anger issues?  Perhaps you are correct.  I do have “anger issues”.  These “issues” would be solved if I didn't converse with discourteous, intolerable ignorami like you interjecting and spewing your boorish opinions where they just simply are not warranted and totally given out of perspective….  
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Just Erica on March 06, 2008, 07:39:09 PM
What the Hell's the matter with you Erica?  I simply asked a very applicable question from a purely Jewish point of view, which you have no knowledge nor edification in.  You are one self-righteous individual you know that?  What fcuking balls you have!  If you had some semblance of knowledge in Judaism you'd understand my question...    I’m not even going to dignify further your pompous comment with any semblance of response..... 


I do understand what you were meaning, and even with the situation as it is, its far from ideal. The girl in question I do not like one bit, and had spoken to Doc to try and work out how I could get rid of her, out of his life.

Honestly she is a nutcase.

My son doesn't want to follow some things in life, regardless how I have tried to teach him. What can I do, but accept what has happened.

Ideally he had a nice girl two months ago, but he didn't want to commit to her, had relations with this one, and bingo theres a baby.

The fact is my son was told he could never sire children. I was far from pleased when it was first claimed.

Until the blood tests returned, its truly a blessing from G-d this child is here at all.

And I have to accept the mother regardless. Its very much like if you child comes home and says its married a one legged, humped back, aids infested muslim.

What can you do?


You're right about that...There are some kids who go against their parents' wishes all of the time. All we can do is teach them and hope to God that they heard us and learned something. Regardless, you love your son and this is a happy moment for you (and no doubt a learning experience for him. ) You did great!
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Just Erica on March 06, 2008, 07:43:29 PM
My point is that Skippy answered the question 3 times before I even responded and you didn't bother to even read them. Stop bashing her and her family because a child was concieved in a way you wouldn't approve of. I'm not self-righteous, I just HATE IT when people are unfairly targeted and bashed. You need help...get over your anger issues, Marzutra.

Skippy has stood up for me on many an  occasion, I'm honored to do the same for her. No matter what, she will be a proud grandmother.
Not only pompous but fcuking ignorant.  Perhaps read, attempt to understand prior to posting would help.  

Firstly, if this was commented it wasn't/isn't anywhere near my post because I simply read one of the other posts.  Secondly, I did not bash anyone, I simply posed a question.  Do you even know the difference between a statement and a question?  Something you might aught to learn prior to teaching don't you think?  You are right about one thing, I do not approve of such.  It seems as though I'm on the wrong site.  I thought this was a Jewish: Judaism site....ibid.  How is it "targeting" when I simply asked a question and she is centered on this fcuking thread?  

Anger issues?  Perhaps you are correct.  I do have “anger issues”.  These “issues” would be solved if I didn't converse with discourteous, intolerable ignorami like you interjecting and spewing your boorish opinions where they just simply are not warranted and totally given out of perspective….  

This was meant to be a happy thread, celebrating Skippy's new Grandmotherhood. How the baby was concieved, who-by and religious affiliations should have been left out of it. Why don't you go back and read the tone of your post.


And Skippy, if I disrespected you in any way by answering in your stead, I'm sorry. The post just seemed accusatory and I didn't want you to feel bad about what's happening in yours and your son's life.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: MarZutra on March 06, 2008, 07:48:04 PM
"This was meant to be a happy thread, celebrating Skippy's new Grandmotherhood. How the baby was concieved, who-by and religious affiliations should have been left out of it. Why don't you go back and read the tone of your post.

And Skippy, if I disrespected you in any way by answering in your stead, I'm sorry. The post just seemed accusatory and I didn't want you to feel bad about what's happening in yours and your son's life."


Is this not a Jewish forum?  Does that have anything to do with Judaism?  Duhhh... 

Perhaps you're "tone" is a bit skewed as I simply posed a question.  G-d you are self righteous....
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 07:49:51 PM

And Skippy, if I disrespected you in any way by answering in your stead, I'm sorry. The post just seemed accusatory and I didn't want you to feel bad about what's happening in yours and your son's life.

Its find I am ok with it. No worries.

Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Just Erica on March 06, 2008, 08:02:01 PM
"This was meant to be a happy thread, celebrating Skippy's new Grandmotherhood. How the baby was concieved, who-by and religious affiliations should have been left out of it. Why don't you go back and read the tone of your post.

And Skippy, if I disrespected you in any way by answering in your stead, I'm sorry. The post just seemed accusatory and I didn't want you to feel bad about what's happening in yours and your son's life."


Is this not a Jewish forum?  Does that have anything to do with Judaism?  Duhhh... 

Perhaps you're "tone" is a bit skewed as I simply posed a question.  G-d you are self righteous....
Your question was accusatory...as if Skippy didn't do her job as a parent to make sure that her son didn't concieve out of wedlock within the Jewish faith. That's a wrong assumption to make, especially when she as a parent did what she could to raise her son to the best of her ability. Let her be happy about her news.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: MarZutra on March 06, 2008, 08:04:46 PM
You are very presumptuous and indeed pompous…. 
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Just Erica on March 06, 2008, 08:06:41 PM
You are very presumptuous and indeed pompous…. 
Actually, that would be you.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: MarZutra on March 06, 2008, 08:18:30 PM
Imerica, with your last comment considering how this entire inept confrontation began you have truly out done yourself.  You are a prime example of why American academia has declined into debasement...  Keep up the good work O0
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 09:11:10 PM
Skippy, you speak of "preserving the white race", but you see it okay for Jews to procreate with Non-Jews? Or is your son not really Jewish because if he had a valid conversion, he wouldn't go procreating with Non-Jewish women.



Yacov how many times have I been bashed on this forum for saying Jews are a race, and you are using it to question me, saying because he has had sex with a Gentile he has dishonored the JEWISH RACE.  :o

Which side of the fence are you sitting?

I will say this, no matter what I am , what I do, first and for most I am a mother, don't try to stand between me and my son. I will never allow it.

As for your so called stab, the girl is white, and even if she wasn't, I would still love my son and his child no different to what I do now.

If you had read my comments, you will find I was not happy with his choice of mother for the child, but there is little I can do.

He is an adult where and who he choses to have sex with is his choice. I am not controlling, I can't physically watch his every move 24 hours a day.

He comes to me, our relationship is strong, that is all one parent can ask of their child. So he makes mistakes, he will learn from them.

He is a good kid, holds down a great job, lives in another state to me, respects his elders and women, never in trouble with the law, never taken drugs.

This is what is important to me, he has a faith in G-d, and respects others beliefs. All in all, many parents now a days can't even claim one 5th of that.

And unlike many, Yacov I support my son, I love my son, and no little incident of him sleeping with the wrong woman will change that.

I hope I have made myself perfectly clear.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Just Erica on March 06, 2008, 09:21:07 PM
Imerica, with your last comment considering how this entire inept confrontation began you have truly out done yourself.  You are a prime example of why American academia has declined into debasement...  Keep up the good work O0
You don't have to raise children, MarZutra. So for you to insult me because I posted something you didn't want to read or understand is pretty low. I'm not interested in out-doing anyone. This isn't a contest. It's about certain people just letting Skippy have her moment in happiness instead of questioning her motives as a Jew and a mother of a convert.

And Skippy is the prime example of a hard-working, selfless and dedicated mother who gives her all when it comes to her son and her beliefs. I respect that so much about her. That will always trump over how much we disagree with each other.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 09:25:50 PM
Imerica, with your last comment considering how this entire inept confrontation began you have truly out done yourself.  You are a prime example of why American academia has declined into debasement...  Keep up the good work O0
You don't have to raise children, MarZutra. So for you to insult me because I posted something you didn't want to read or understand is pretty low. I'm not interested in out-doing anyone. This isn't a contest. It's about certain people just letting Skippy have her moment in happiness instead of questioning her motives as a Jew and a mother of a convert.

And Skippy is the prime example of a hard-working, selfless and dedicated mother who gives her all when it comes to her son and her beliefs. I respect that so much about her. That will always trump over how much we disagree with each other.

Thank you Erica that every kind of you to say that, I respect you as well.

I understand from a Jewish stand point its not the best outcome.



Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: MarZutra on March 06, 2008, 09:37:01 PM
Give your head a shake Erica...really.  You are so off base...  Where do you get off?  If one cannot even post a question, having nothing whatsoever to do with YOU, something is truly wrong.  shove off!!
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: FULL METAL JACKET on March 06, 2008, 09:37:40 PM
Skippy, you speak of "preserving the white race", but you see it okay for Jews to procreate with Non-Jews? Or is your son not really Jewish because if he had a valid conversion, he wouldn't go procreating with Non-Jewish women.



Yacov how many times have I been bashed on this forum for saying Jews are a race, and you are using it to question me, saying because he has had sex with a Gentile he has dishonored the JEWISH RACE.  :o

Which side of the fence are you sitting?

I will say this, no matter what I am , what I do, first and for most I am a mother, don't try to stand between me and my son. I will never allow it.

As for your so called stab, the girl is white, and even if she wasn't, I would still love my son and his child no different to what I do now.

If you had read my comments, you will find I was not happy with his choice of mother for the child, but there is little I can do.

He is an adult where and who he choses to have sex with is his choice. I am not controlling, I can't physically watch his every move 24 hours a day.

He comes to me, our relationship is strong, that is all one parent can ask of their child. So he makes mistakes, he will learn from them.

He is a good kid, holds down a great job, lives in another state to me, respects his elders and women, never in trouble with the law, never taken drugs.

This is what is important to me, he has a faith in G-d, and respects others beliefs. All in all, many parents now a days can't even claim one 5th of that.

And unlike many, Yacov I support my son, I love my son, and no little incident of him sleeping with the wrong woman will change that.

I hope I have made myself perfectly clear.
You're a great mom. I wish your family the best.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Lisa on March 06, 2008, 09:42:17 PM
Guys, I understand this is a religious forum, and that you all might be curious as to whether or not Skippy's son is halachically Jewish.  They are valid questions from a religious perspective.  But keep in mind that many of us have not met each other in person.  All we have to go by are words typed on a screen.  And it seems to me that Skippy is being ganged up on, which I don't think is right.  If Skippy wants to discuss the religion of her son, that's her choice. 

So if any of you have questions about these matters, please just send her a private message. 
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Just Erica on March 06, 2008, 09:49:03 PM
Give your head a shake Erica...really.  You are so off base...  Where do you get off?  If one cannot even post a question, having nothing whatsoever to do with YOU, something is truly wrong.  shove off!!
Like I said before, Skippy stood up for me in posts that had absolutely nothing to do with her when I was being ganged up on so I paid her back. But what bothers me is that the people I expected to support her (some of them) aren't. They're judging her parenting. Be happy for her good news and leave religion out of it. THat's all I'm saying.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: MarZutra on March 06, 2008, 09:52:36 PM
I'm not judging anyone.  I ASKED A QUESTION!  NOTHING of what you stated is applicable to me outside of your contorted perception of reality.  I stated nothing about her parenthood...I didn't attack her at all.  By asking a question is attacking someone?  What planet do you live on anyway?   Even if I were “judging” someone, it is none of your stupid business anyway as it has nothing to do with you.   Please go back and read my original question.  I JUST ASKED A stupid QUESTION!  JESUS CHRIST!! 
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Raulmarrio2000 on March 06, 2008, 10:04:38 PM
If Skippy's adoptive son converted VALIDLY and FREELY on his own initiative, he is a Jew. If not he is a Gentile. The question is why did he convert and how. Anyway, whether the conversion was valid or not, according to hallacha he is either a Gentile (if conversion was invalid), or a Ben Abraham (if it was valid). Not Skippy's son. Hallacha does not validate adoptions.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 11:55:33 PM

You're a great mom. I wish your family the best.

Thanks FMJ
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 11:56:59 PM
I'm not judging anyone.  I ASKED A QUESTION!  NOTHING of what you stated is applicable to me outside of your contorted perception of reality.  I stated nothing about her parenthood...I didn't attack her at all.  By asking a question is attacking someone?  What planet do you live on anyway?   Even if I were “judging” someone, it is none of your stupid business anyway as it has nothing to do with you.   Please go back and read my original question.  I JUST ASKED A stupid QUESTION!  JESUS CHRIST!! 

Did mind your question, and I answered it, I am fine with what you asked.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 06, 2008, 11:59:27 PM
Guys, I understand this is a religious forum, and that you all might be curious as to whether or not Skippy's son is halachically Jewish.  They are valid questions from a religious perspective.  But keep in mind that many of us have not met each other in person.  All we have to go by are words typed on a screen.  And it seems to me that Skippy is being ganged up on, which I don't think is right.  If Skippy wants to discuss the religion of her son, that's her choice. 

So if any of you have questions about these matters, please just send her a private message. 

Thank you Lisa, tho I am regretting opening my mouth now, just I was so happy at the news. Well lesson learnt, don't be happy on this forum.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Sergio 11 on March 07, 2008, 12:26:39 AM
Congradulations skippy..

Soon you will be the veteran of JTF.. i don't know how many people with grandkids we have supporting our movement ...

Maybe your the first one :D
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 07, 2008, 01:51:27 AM
Congradulations skippy..

Soon you will be the veteran of JTF.. i don't know how many people with grandkids we have supporting our movement ...

Maybe your the first one :D

Oh my I never thought about that  :::D :::D :::D

Thank you Sergio :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Boeregeneraal on March 07, 2008, 07:24:46 AM
PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  >:( >:(

What is evertone doing! For goodness sake!!!!

Skippy has come to you all, telling her haert to you all. Sure, there are a few problems from a religious point of view. But, it's like some are blaming skippy! Skippy has said that she completely hates the mother...and have considered options to try and help her son.

people, it's not like she put the two of them in a room and started pressing them together. He lives thousands of miles from skippy, and made a decision. Skippy has warned him repeatedly. But people, it was his choice. It's over and done with! It's not like we can do anything about it! It's a live were talking about!

now PLEASE, drop the matter of ganging up on skippy...it's not going to change anything. Lets all be happy for her.

CRITICAL THINKIG, people, CRITICAL THINKING !!!

and btw, ive met skippy's son, he damn fine young man!!! One can not even compare him even one bit to typical society of today!

Skippy, you've done a great job in raising your son  O0
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: MarZutra on March 07, 2008, 07:57:10 AM
Did mind your question, and I answered it, I am fine with what you asked.
Yes Skippy, I know you are as you are a reasonable person who knows the difference between a question and a statement of "attack", which one clearly does not and has little ability to even comprehend what is read....if that individual can actually read..

Thank you for ending this unfortunate display of ignorance.  You had already cleared it up personally and that is righteous.  Be very well and may the world come to your grandchild's feet ;)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 07, 2008, 09:10:10 AM
PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  >:( >:(

What is evertone doing! For goodness sake!!!!

Skippy has come to you all, telling her haert to you all. Sure, there are a few problems from a religious point of view. But, it's like some are blaming skippy! Skippy has said that she completely hates the mother...and have considered options to try and help her son.

people, it's not like she put the two of them in a room and started pressing them together. He lives thousands of miles from skippy, and made a decision. Skippy has warned him repeatedly. But people, it was his choice. It's over and done with! It's not like we can do anything about it! It's a live were talking about!

now PLEASE, drop the matter of ganging up on skippy...it's not going to change anything. Lets all be happy for her.

CRITICAL THINKIG, people, CRITICAL THINKING !!!

and btw, ive met skippy's son, he damn fine young man!!! One can not even compare him even one bit to typical society of today!

Skippy, you've done a great job in raising your son  O0

Thank you Boere and he really likes you too.  O0

Siad you have a great future ahead of you. And that I can only agree on 100%  :)
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 07, 2008, 09:14:01 AM
Did mind your question, and I answered it, I am fine with what you asked.
Yes Skippy, I know you are as you are a reasonable person who knows the difference between a question and a statement of "attack", which one clearly does not and has little ability to even comprehend what is read....if that individual can actually read..

Thank you for ending this unfortunate display of ignorance.  You had already cleared it up personally and that is righteous.  Be very well and may the world come to your grandchild's feet ;)

Thank you MarZutra again.

You are in my prayers and I hope you have many blessings, now and in the future.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: RationalThought110 on March 07, 2008, 12:37:35 PM


My adopted son, is non married, and is having a baby with a Gentile yes.


Why did you decide to adopt?
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Rubystars on March 07, 2008, 12:50:23 PM
Am I correct in saying that your daughter is not married and just had a child out of wedlock with a non-Jew? 
First off (sorry Skippy...), it's Skippy's adopted son...second, she just said it doesn't matter to her. She's excited to be a grandmother. Let her have that.

Thank you Erica and 1000% correct  O0

And he now is getting scared, well I said you can't undo the deed now  ;)

But blood tests came back the mother is healthy and so is the baby.  O0

I think it's really wonderful that they're healthy. I hope that you'll all have many years to enjoy your grandchild.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 08, 2008, 07:35:41 PM


My adopted son, is non married, and is having a baby with a Gentile yes.


Why did you decide to adopt?
Wow what a question. Not easy to answer that. But I will try.

Being a parent is far more than having sex and giving birth. Its about being there emotionally, and every time they need you, its an unconditional love you feel for another.

The questions I find that defines a parent, for just a genetic donor. Is this...

Will you die for them, without question? Would you give them every part of you body and soul if they needed it? Would you move Heaven and Earth to protect them and keep them safe?

If the answer is yes to all those question then you are a parent. If you answer no then you are solely just a biological donor.

And when you have a bond that is so strong with another and they ask you to be their parent, they only answer is yes. Adopting is just paperwork, but it closes a gap, and really makes it written in stone.

I hope I answered your question.
Title: Re: I have some wonderful news
Post by: Tina Greco - Melbourne on March 08, 2008, 07:37:19 PM


I think it's really wonderful that they're healthy. I hope that you'll all have many years to enjoy your grandchild.

The little one has already caused a stir  :::D :::D I hope too...  :) Thank you Ruby.