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Title: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on September 28, 2008, 06:22:16 AM
USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia


News report in Serbian -  below English

LONDON - Rusija je zabranila emitovanje američkih crtanih serija „Simpsonovi“, „Saut park“ i „Porodični tip“, a ruski parlament je saopštio da će frekvenciju kanala koji emituje crtane filmove „2dž2“ dobiti nova državna mreža koja će emitovati obrazovne programe o patriotizmu, porodičnim vrednostima i značaju sporta, tvrdi britanski Telegraf, prenosi Tanjug.

Pored toga, navodi list, ruska Duma razmatra uvođenje časova patriotizma u sve ruske škole.
Kanalu „2dž2“, čija će sudbina biti odlučena ovih dana, predstoji krivična istraga zbog emitovanja jedne epizode crtane serije „Saut park“ koja navodno podstiče na versku mržnju, dok se za serije „Simpsonovi“ i „Porodični tip“ tvrdi da krše prava dece, piše londonski Telegraf.

In English

Russia has decided to remove, from national Television,  the American cartoons like
„the Simpsons“, „south-park“ and others. The Russian government will replace them with educative programs which content, for example, patriotism, family values and sport activism. 

Russia will introduce lessons of patriotism in all the schools of Russia.
They declared that the cartoon programs like South Park are promoting religious intolerance and the other cartoon program “The Simpsons” is violating the rights of the Children. Source Telegraf of London   

To add:

Russia is one of the few countries whose government represents and protects national interests above the interests of world's powers and their global ambitions. Under Putin’s rule, the Russian federation has recently managed to remove the fatal grips of the international bank, by becoming debt-free to the foreign factor!
 

The relation Russia – Serbia  

The Republic of Serbia is today controlled by a marionette government, which is established by the USA and the EU.

After the communist regime of Slobodan Milosevic  collapsed in the year of 2000, foreign exponents (who called them selves the “democratic” and European representatives of Serbia) in cooperation with national traitors and former communists took control over Serbia. The same communist associations (SPS JUL and KPY) who supported Milosevic during the 90s, have decided to support the today’s marionette NATO regime of Serbia.
Why are the ex communists supporting Tadic’s marionette regime, did not the pro democratic regime captured Milosevic and handed him over, inclusive the heads of it’s former government ad army, to the anti-Hague tribunal? Yes that’s true, but we are dealing with (anti-Orthodox) communists who have no morality. They will sell also their parents, if that would benefit them and their interests.   

This anti-Serbian regime can only be removed in cooperation between the Serbian nationalistic opposition and Russia.  Only Russia will provide to the Serbs fiscally and financially support. Western countries are benefit with the presence of the current regime who is governing Serbia. It are the Western media houses like the B92 and others who spread prostitution values, immorality and hatered towards everything that’s Serbian and Orthodox, trough Serbian nation TV in Serbia!

Russia is restoring its nations from the dark period of communism.
Serbia is still ruled by former communists who have changed their red uniforms into EU’s and NATO’s.

There is no other solution left for Serbia.
If we Serbs want to exist in Serbia and the Balkans we must cooperated with Russia. We can not cooperate with Russia, if we have an anti-Serbian and anti-Russian government. If we want to collectively leave Serbia and to run away to Moscow we should follow the EU integrations. Since we do not want that we should follow the examples like conducted in Russia.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Rubystars on September 28, 2008, 07:53:31 AM
They're telling people what they can and can't watch? And this is supposed to be a good thing?

People should have the freedom to choose what they want to watch even if it's not good for them.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on September 28, 2008, 08:27:21 AM
They're telling people what they can and can't watch? And this is supposed to be a good thing?

People should have the freedom to choose what they want to watch even if it's not good for them.

The JTF stands for morality, freedom and conservatism, right?
Are the today’s American (Hollywood) media houses conservative or moral, no they are not. They promote everything what stands against normality and civilized societies.
Is it responsible to avoid influences coming from that kind of source, of course it is.
You Americans should also liberated your selves from the evil.

The Western media provides almost only lies.
If you want to be informed about the facts regarding the world’s problems, do not allowed that only the Western media is your source of information.
In that case you will be brainwashed and not able to make reasonable or responsible conclusions. The consequences of that irresponsible behavior are fatal for your future.

Do not think that democracy and freedom are always good!
Be informed that it was democracy which brought Hitler in power in Germany.
People have always the chance to take wrong decisions or wrong choices.
The Russian government does not want to stimulated its people to make mistakes and that’s why they are cutting off immoral programms from national TV.
These actions are taken in order to protect the nation.

If a party establishes limitations in order to avoid you to hurt your self, than you can not compare that with the violation of the right for freedom.
Freedom is dangerous, because if you misuse the freedom, which you have, to chose for the evil, than you will feel the bitter consequences of if. 

People must have limitations, you must not be allowed to do everything what you want.

Dear Rubystars I hope that you now a little bit more understand the meaning of the Russian government. 
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Rubystars on September 28, 2008, 01:27:00 PM
The problem I have is how does a secular government determine what exactly is legally defined as moral or decent?

With a tv show you can always change the channel if it offends you.

It would be ok with me if they were taking it off the air to promote Russian-made television and to block out the alien American culture. That would make sense.

However, I think it's not necessarily good if they're taking it off the air because of some vaguely defined moral reasons. These kinds of laws are what are allowing people to go to jail for insulting Muslims elsewhere, because "prejudice" is supposed to be immoral according to some governments.

Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on September 28, 2008, 01:34:07 PM

It would be ok with me if they were taking it off the air to promote Russian-made television and to block out the alien American culture. That would make sense.

Thats exactly whats going on in Russia.
They are replacing American programs and shows with domestic, cultured and moral programs. 


With a tv show you can always change the channel if it offends you.

Well it depands with which kind of shows were are dealing with.

It is always better and easier to keep the door closed for the deef than to remove the deef ouside the house.

The problem I have is how does a secular government determine what exactly is legally defined as moral or decent?


Russia is restoring the government system.
Before the evil communist regime the Church and the state were NOT separated in Serbia and Russia.

We are of the opinion that the the Church and the state should be not separated from each others!
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: White Israelite on September 28, 2008, 02:51:47 PM
Censorship is not a good thing and goes against 1st amendment rights, you don't like when youtube censors videos that show genocide against Serbs do you? Don't be a hypocrite.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Rubystars on September 28, 2008, 02:58:04 PM
Well Dalmacija, let me ask you this, when has a religious Christian government ever been a good government, especially to religious minorites like Jews? Can you find one instance of Christian theocratic rule where some "heretic" or other hasn't had to pay dearly?

Now imagine a country as powerful as Russia in the modern age under a strict theocratic rule. It would be like Sharia, only with a Christian face. It would be bad... and it would make Orthodoxy look evil.

I believe in a secular government. I don't believe in a the giant "Separation of church and state" like the ACLU in America does, for example I think it's ok for manger scenes and Christmas trees to be in public spaces. However I wouldn't want the government telling me how to be a proper Christian either, or to persecute those who chose another religion or no religion at all.



Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Rubystars on September 28, 2008, 03:01:21 PM
Censorship is not a good thing and goes against 1st amendment rights, you don't like when youtube censors videos that show genocide against Serbs do you? Don't be a hypocrite.

I think freedom of speech and freedom to watch what you please (unless it's something truly depraved like child or murder porn which would break other laws anyway) should be a right of all modern nations.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on September 28, 2008, 03:24:51 PM
Well Dalmacija, let me ask you this, when has a religious Christian government ever been a good government, especially to religious minorites like Jews? Can you find one instance of Christian theocratic rule where some "heretic" or other hasn't had to pay dearly?

Now imagine a country as powerful as Russia in the modern age under a strict theocratic rule. It would be like Sharia, only with a Christian face. It would be bad... and it would make Orthodoxy look evil.

I believe in a secular government. I don't believe in a the giant "Separation of church and state" like the ACLU in America does, for example I think it's ok for manger scenes and Christmas trees to be in public spaces. However I wouldn't want the government telling me how to be a proper Christian either, or to persecute those who chose another religion or no religion at all.

Look,

Democracy is dangerous and also parliamentary states.
Because the majority of the people will decide who will govern the state.
Is this a good option? It is not. With out democracy dictators like Hitler and others would not had gained power.

Look what happened after “democracy” brought for example Hitler in power in Germany.
Germany started to introduce the extermination process of Jews and Gypsies, all over Europe. The Croatians and Bosnians (German allies) took Germany’s extermination process over and added the biological extermination of the Serbs.
You see it is the media which controls the people.
If the media has a certain amount of influence on the people, the same people will follow their instructions.
We in Serbia have problems with foreign exponents.
They are organizing Serbian national traitors and foreign mercenaries to control Serbia.
If for example Serbia was ruled by a king and the Church had again its influence,
no foreign institution would be able to take control over Serbia or to have that kind of influence like today.
About the minorities and the past.
Well the Catholic Church had indeed prosecuted minorities like the Jews.
In the same time the Jewish rights and the rights of other minorities in former Yugoslavia were respected by the Serbian majority.
Orthodox countries like Serbia and Russia must be ruled by a king who is loyal to the Orthodox Church and the nation. With this way of governing we can be sure that the power is in the hands of the domestic nation. Orthodox countries had never the same aditutte towards their minorities like for example Nazi Germnay during WW2.

It is not realistic to compare Orthodox Christian rule with the Islamic law.
I think that that is not realistic anymore. Those are two completely opposite ways of governing. So there is no need to fair Orthodox authorization if you have good intentions.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on September 28, 2008, 03:29:23 PM
Censorship is not a good thing and goes against 1st amendment rights, you don't like when youtube censors videos that show genocide against Serbs do you? Don't be a hypocrite.

You are being very, very disrespect full towards the Serbian nation!
A friend of the Serbs would never say something embarrassing like this.

You compare Americanized programs like “the Simpsons” with documentarians which educate about the genocide against the Serbs?

How can you do something like this?
 
If we do not want Westernized programs in Eastern Europe, what is wrong with that?
There are also no Eastern European influences in the West? Why should we than allow the opposite? Who is being hypocrite? 
Westernized programms and influences propagate femminism, homosexual rights and other activities which are totally wrong.

Everywhere, where you have "Western rights" you have tolerance towards homosexuals and others crimes which are in struggle with the holy Bible.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Kerber on September 28, 2008, 04:32:28 PM
They're telling people what they can and can't watch? And this is supposed to be a good thing?

People should have the freedom to choose what they want to watch even if it's not good for them.
I thought that you are against political liberalism.

Political oligarchy that governs Euro-Atlantic zone is propagating and creating liberalism which means propagating and creating relativisation of morality.And propagating and creating conditions for immoral behavior is the essence of political liberalism.

What is the main instrument for propaganda and indoctrination(which is supposed to prepare liberalism and make people want that kind of society)?The answer is mass media.Mass media is no.1 source of presentation of immoral behavior(in every aspect of life).
Mass media creates societies(the no.1 example in the world of that creation is USA society,you know what mass media does in your own country) through its shows,documentaries,movies and "truthful informative programs"(news).
One of those that I mentioned are TV shows and movies."South park" belongs in those groups.And there is more...For example "Beavis and Butthead".I think there is no need to explain what kind of idiotism those cartoons propagates.

So,when you object those things,those elements of political indoctrination which can change people's view of every aspect with damaging people's soul,automatically those who want to install its own liberal "virtues" start to yell :"There is no democracy!There is no free media!There is no free thought!This is not modern and this is not progressive",and so on...In our country,when we stand against those kind of stupidities,pro-EU and pro-liberal forces start to attack us in all media('cause they control almost every media) saying that we are "destructive","non-constructive",that we don't want "to move on in the future" and that we won't get out from our past(as our past is bonded to our religion and respect of moral way of life) and son...

I'll tell you this.One wrong step is preparation for making the another.
It means when you enter in a "smaller" sinful behavior or just accept it by liking it and in the beginning maybe just laughing at it,it is the first step to a "bigger"(second) level of sinful behavior.When you enter the "second level",you are prepared for the third,and so on.
So,you society became like that,that you start to accept the new Babylonian culture,or just NWO.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on September 28, 2008, 04:38:34 PM
Babylonian culture that is it!

Kerber,

My respect to you!
You have the intelligence of a real Serbian man!
I could not agree more with the content of your last post!

For the King and Fatherland

With out the King it is not good - Bez Kralja ne valja!
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Rubystars on September 28, 2008, 05:51:52 PM
They're telling people what they can and can't watch? And this is supposed to be a good thing?

People should have the freedom to choose what they want to watch even if it's not good for them.
I thought that you are against political liberalism.

Liberals are often the ones who want to control people's lives. They're not really liberal at all. Liberals are the biggest censors of all, they only want their programming shown on tv.

Quote
Political oligarchy that governs Euro-Atlantic zone is propagating and creating liberalism which means propagating and creating relativisation of morality.And propagating and creating conditions for immoral behavior is the essence of political liberalism.

What is the main instrument for propaganda and indoctrination(which is supposed to prepare liberalism and make people want that kind of society)?The answer is mass media.Mass media is no.1 source of presentation of immoral behavior(in every aspect of life).
Mass media creates societies(the no.1 example in the world of that creation is USA society,you know what mass media does in your own country) through its shows,documentaries,movies and "truthful informative programs"(news).
One of those that I mentioned are TV shows and movies."South park" belongs in those groups.And there is more...For example "Beavis and Butthead".I think there is no need to explain what kind of idiotism those cartoons propagates.

So,when you object those things,those elements of political indoctrination which can change people's view of every aspect with damaging people's soul,automatically those who want to install its own liberal "virtues" start to yell :"There is no democracy!There is no free media!There is no free thought!This is not modern and this is not progressive",and so on...In our country,when we stand against those kind of stupidities,pro-EU and pro-liberal forces start to attack us in all media('cause they control almost every media) saying that we are "destructive","non-constructive",that we don't want "to move on in the future" and that we won't get out from our past(as our past is bonded to our religion and respect of moral way of life) and son...

I'll tell you this.One wrong step is preparation for making the another.
It means when you enter in a "smaller" sinful behavior or just accept it by liking it and in the beginning maybe just laughing at it,it is the first step to a "bigger"(second) level of sinful behavior.When you enter the "second level",you are prepared for the third,and so on.
So,you society became like that,that you start to accept the new Babylonian culture,or just NWO.

I think if people don't like a show or think it's morally degrading they should take it off of the air not by force of law but by not watching it and therefore depriving it of advertising dollars. At least in a secular country. And I don't believe that a Christian theocracy in Russia would  be a good thing, no matter what branch.

You are all speaking as if America is the great Satan.  :o
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Kerber on September 28, 2008, 06:58:29 PM
They're telling people what they can and can't watch? And this is supposed to be a good thing?

People should have the freedom to choose what they want to watch even if it's not good for them.
I thought that you are against political liberalism.

Liberals are often the ones who want to control people's lives. They're not really liberal at all. Liberals are the biggest censors of all, they only want their programming shown on TV.

Quote
Political oligarchy that governs Euro-Atlantic zone is propagating and creating liberalism which means propagating and creating relativisation of morality.And propagating and creating conditions for immoral behavior is the essence of political liberalism.

What is the main instrument for propaganda and indoctrination(which is supposed to prepare liberalism and make people want that kind of society)?The answer is mass media.Mass media is no.1 source of presentation of immoral behavior(in every aspect of life).
Mass media creates societies(the no.1 example in the world of that creation is USA society,you know what mass media does in your own country) through its shows,documentaries,movies and "truthful informative programs"(news).
One of those that I mentioned are TV shows and movies."South park" belongs in those groups.And there is more...For example "Beavis and Butthead".I think there is no need to explain what kind of idiotism those cartoons propagates.

So,when you object those things,those elements of political indoctrination which can change people's view of every aspect with damaging people's soul,automatically those who want to install its own liberal "virtues" start to yell :"There is no democracy!There is no free media!There is no free thought!This is not modern and this is not progressive",and so on...In our country,when we stand against those kind of stupidities,pro-EU and pro-liberal forces start to attack us in all media('cause they control almost every media) saying that we are "destructive","non-constructive",that we don't want "to move on in the future" and that we won't get out from our past(as our past is bonded to our religion and respect of moral way of life) and son...

I'll tell you this.One wrong step is preparation for making the another.
It means when you enter in a "smaller" sinful behavior or just accept it by liking it and in the beginning maybe just laughing at it,it is the first step to a "bigger"(second) level of sinful behavior.When you enter the "second level",you are prepared for the third,and so on.
So,you society became like that,that you start to accept the new Babylonian culture,or just NWO.

I think if people don't like a show or think it's morally degrading they should take it off of the air not by force of law but by not watching it and therefore depriving it of advertising dollars. At least in a secular country. And I don't believe that a Christian theocracy in Russia would  be a good thing, no matter what branch.

You are all speaking as if America is the great Satan.  :o
1. Yes,they do ban and censor the things that are not in their interest.It is true,but that is happening where they already have installed the system of their "virtues" in a hole society.

When they reach and concede the critical mass(and media manipulation(like TV shows,news) is the main instrument) which is going to support their idea,then it's very easy to suppress still opposing minority.But,first you have to reach those conditions so you could have enough support("critical mass") for your idea.When you have a critical mass,then you start to call on accepting the reality.And you bring your own "democrats" in your "young democracy".So,you have open road to drive the nation wherever you want.Of course it will be society that is based on Darwinism,theory of evolution and further relativisation of moral laws,as moral is the only way that reconnect us with our source of life(I mean our Creator,God).
So,when you say that so called "liberals" are the biggest censors,you have to know the thing written above how it became and why.
Unfortunately,my country fallen(by force in '99) and liberals(or "leftists" as you call it here) installed its own people so they are doing the same thing like in the western Europe and USA-banning or attacking every thing that speaks against their system.

2. Great Satan?No.
But it is the fact that US society is under the control of satanic forces and most of the ordinary people are pagans because of it.Are you going to tell me that people who governed through Clinton,Albright,Bush(and many others) and tomorrow through Obama or McCain are the servants of God?

I hope my opinion is wrong,but you'll see what will happen in closer future.Whoever wins in this elections(so called "left or right wing") there will be a war with Iran where Israel is going to suffer the most.It's the goal of satanic head that governs trough its two (political)horns.What do you think why Bush have banned the Israeli Government in 2004 to bomb the nuclear installations?Because Iran didn't finish the job with nucl.arsenal that could hurt Israel(after the attack).
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Rubystars on September 29, 2008, 01:11:39 AM
One of the biggest problems is that a lot of the every day people, even if they are good Christians, decide not to get involved in politics. The ones that do vote aren't necessarily representative of the whole. If voting was compulsory like it is in some countries then the voting patterns might be different.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: P J C on October 01, 2008, 07:47:59 PM
I condemn EVIL RUSSIA!!!!!!
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 02:05:29 AM
I condemn EVIL RUSSIA!!!!!!

Look at your self.

The Vatican has prosecuted the Jews for 2000 years long and the Orthodox nations for 1000 years.

You must first look at your own side, before you start to condemn an other party.
You do not even know why you condemn Russia.
It is important to always know what you are saying.
A simple shout, with out any arguments or facts is not going to impress us.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: AryehYehudah on October 02, 2008, 06:13:17 AM
Russia will introduce lessons of patriotism in all the schools of Russia.
They declared that the cartoon programs like South Park are promoting religious intolerance and the other cartoon program “The Simpsons” is violating the rights of the Children. Source Telegraf of London   

Just wait until they introduce the truth about the Jews and what they really put in their matzot for Pesach (Passover).  Did you know little Christian Russian boys go missing, because evil Jews steal them to put in the Challah bread and Matzot?  Don't worry you will learn all about it on National RUssian Orthodox television.   


I know I said I would not post here, but I couldn't resist.  And I second the posts of others for this message.  Down With Russia!  All Russia's censorship is product of fascism.  Yes, I think Simpsons is kind of a stupid show, but the problem with Putin and his allies is that they are controlling their people like drones and programming into their minds what to think.  What they are teaching them is nothing more than what Cambodians were taught in time of PolPot.  Live and die for your country and do all for your leader and don't bother thinking, because your brain is meaningless.  Its funny that a government sponsored by lying, cheating, thievery is going to put nationalist channels teaching its people morality.  Putin himself has been known to have many affairs and the Russian mafia has lot of power and authority in the country.  WHy not the government teach itself some morals first, before it points the finger at its lowly servile peasants.   Even Russia, with its lack of dirty television shows, rap music and western culture, has a higher rate of alcoholism, divorce and domestic violence than the USA and many western countries.  Russia, Belarus and many other Eastern bloc countries have the highest divorce rates in the world.  As for morality,  I think prostution of Russian women is some of the highest in the world.  There is reports of Russian prostitutes going as far as India to service customers.  I suppose you Serbians will blame all this on America too?  People love pointing fingers. 

Dalamacija,I have one question, if you were  in America right now, would you vote for Barack Obama or John McCain?  You know Obama is for promoting Islam, a relgion that will put an end to all dirty western television shows.  Obama also wants close ties with Russia and wants to do all he can to ally with them.  ON the other hand, McCain hates Russia and has said many times that Putin is a low-life communist KGB punk.  I am intersted to hear what American candidate you would elect, if you had, lets say a gun to your head, force to choose one?  Please I like to hear your answer.


 :dance: :dance:   DOWN WITH RUSSIA AND ALL ITS LEFT-WING ALLIES!     :dance: :dance:

SHANA TOVAH TO ALL.. A NEW YEAR AND JEWS AND RIGHTEOUS GENTILES WILL OVERCOME THEIR OPPRESSORS, RED (RUSSIA) AND GREEN (ISLAM).
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: AryehYehudah on October 02, 2008, 06:24:10 AM
Orthodox countries like Serbia and Russia must be ruled by a king who is loyal to the Orthodox Church and the nation. With this way of governing we can be sure that the power is in the hands of the domestic nation. Orthodox countries had never the same aditutte towards their minorities like for example Nazi Germnay during WW2.

It is not realistic to compare Orthodox Christian rule with the Islamic law.
I think that that is not realistic anymore. Those are two completely opposite ways of governing. So there is no need to fair Orthodox authorization if you have good intentions.


I remember one of my favorite lines in a Jewish movie.  The Jewish Student asks "Rabbi, is there a proper blessing for the Tzar?" .  The Rabbi pauses and says, "A blessing for the Tzar?",  (Pause), "Why of course, May G-d bless the Tzar and keep him FAR AWAY FROM US!"

Forward to 3:45 of the video to see this.  Let us Jews never forget our life under the rule of Orthodox CHristian king..  MY grandparents will not!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRdfX7ut8gw


Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: cjd on October 02, 2008, 06:30:29 AM
With Obama in the White House and the sick Liberal congress we have now we may all soon be facing the wrong end of a gun. Your post is excellent and it tells it how it is! I am glad you decided to  speak your mind on this issue.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: P J C on October 02, 2008, 06:38:07 AM
I condemn EVIL RUSSIA!!!!!!

Look at your self.

The Vatican has prosecuted the Jews for 2000 years long and the Orthodox nations for 1000 years.

You must first look at your own side, before you start to condemn an other party.
You do not even know why you condemn Russia.
It is important to always know what you are saying.
A simple shout, with out any arguments or facts is not going to impress us.
Why dont you look at all the Jews persecuted and killed by the Soviets. The masterminds behind that have the same mindset as Mr. KGB Vladimir Putin. Why do you think he wants to unite the evil USSR again. He tried to start off with attacking Georgia. Then he threatens Poland. What's next Latvia? Also another famous arguement, THEY FUND IRANIAN NAZI TERRORIST NUCLEAR PROGRAM. THEY ARE ALSO IN TALKS WITH THAT SCUMBAG HUGO CHAVEZ. None of these will be good for Serbia either. It is not me who is supporting an evil empire it is YOU.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 06:44:16 AM
I condemn EVIL RUSSIA!!!!!!

Look at your self.

The Vatican has prosecuted the Jews for 2000 years long and the Orthodox nations for 1000 years.

You must first look at your own side, before you start to condemn an other party.
You do not even know why you condemn Russia.
It is important to always know what you are saying.
A simple shout, with out any arguments or facts is not going to impress us.
Why dont you look at all the Jews persecuted and killed by the Soviets. The masterminds behind that have the same mindset as Mr. KGB Vladimir Putin. Why do you think he wants to unite the evil USSR again. He tried to start off with attacking Georgia. Then he threatens Poland. What's next Latvia? Also another famous arguement, THEY FUND IRANIAN NAZI TERRORIST NUCLEAR PROGRAM. THEY ARE ALSO IN TALKS WITH THAT SCUMBAG HUGO CHAVEZ. None of these will be good for Serbia either. It is not me who is supporting an evil empire it is YOU.


HaHA...

Braco Srbi ovaj decko lupa kao otvoren prozor tako da je jedva ostao ziv...
Pogledaj te koje su ovo gluposti...

Ipak covijek se moze sa ovakvim maloumnicima dobro nasmijati...

Ko misli da su ovi ljudi nasi saveznici mora da je OPICEN u glavi!!!
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: AryehYehudah on October 02, 2008, 06:46:31 AM
Russia is evil country.. Everyone, I  found a wonderful video from the founder of the site, Chaim ben Pesach.  It is in Hebrew but in English subtitles so you can understand.  It is wonderful video where Chaim describes the truth of this evil Jew-hating country called Russia.  This is a country who once sided with Hitler and has for generations even today seeked to wipe Jews off the planet.    Fast foward the video to 6:00 to see where Chaim starts to address his view of the evil Red empire from hell.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5842815878538967213&ei=3qTkSOCcLJnWqAOLstzhBA&q=russia+pogrom&hl=en

In Russia, I will always be a "zhid"!


P.S. Do people who post in Serbian, mind putting English translations when responding to english speakers.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 06:52:29 AM
In Russia, I will always be a "zhid"!

Thats their shame not yours...

At least they were not puting you in death camps like good brave Catholic Croats..
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 06:58:18 AM
In Russia, I will always be a "zhid"!

(http://nezavisly-stav-chorvatska.navajo.cz/nezavisly-stav-chorvatska-4.jpeg)

This is what you Jews were wearing in Croatia, so that the Nazis could recognize you!
You do not want to talke about this, only about Russia.

Zidovs you were called by the Croatian Catholic Nazis who murdered both Jews and Serbs in deathcamps. You Jews were just like us Serbs considered bu the regime as the state's enemies. According to the laws of Vatican's Croatia Serbs and Jews should be executed for the savety of the Croatian Catholic state.



This genocide is something that the Russians had never organized against you.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: AryehYehudah on October 02, 2008, 06:59:43 AM
In Russia, I will always be a "zhid"!

Thats their shame not yours...

At least they were not puting you in death camps like good brave Catholic Croats..

Oh they had/have their plans, believe me.. Right before Stalin died, he was planning an even bigger Holocaust than Hitler, for us Jews.   Who knows what they are planning for us now.  Russia would have gladly given their Jews to Hitler, had Hitler not attacked them.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: AryehYehudah on October 02, 2008, 07:01:22 AM
Dalmacija, why do you purposely get off the subject and started pointing the finger at Croats, when this whole topic was about the atrocities Russians have committed against us.  You started this post praising Russia for banning western tv shows and promoting Russian/Orthodox nationalism.   I know Croats are nazi scum, you don't need to keep telling me.  If you were supporting the Croats, I would condemn you all the same as I am doing now!

For your information, Russia is planning a very big holocaust for us Jews even today.  What do I care about Croats right now, they are not threatening my backyard.  Maybe they will again one day, but we have a much greater and real threat.  You are talking about 70 years ago now.  Right now , we have Russia funding their proxy state and ally called Iran to develop nuclear weaopns to finish the job Hitler started.  Yes, I am a Jew and I know who my enemy is now.  Stop living in WWII, this is the year 2008!
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 07:06:14 AM
Dalmacija, why do you purposely get off the subject and started pointing the finger at Croats, when this whole topic was about the atrocities Russians have committed against us.  You started this post praising Russia for banning western tv shows and promoting Russian/Orthodox nationalism.   I know Croats are nazi scum, you don't need to keep telling me.  If you were supporting the Croats, I would condemn you all the same as I am doing now!

Pro Croatian nationalists stil hate Jews.
Slavic (Serbian & Russian) nationalism is not based on anti-Semitism...

PS: Stalin and the communists killed 500.000.000 Orthodox Russians.
Of course they would have the same intentions towards Jews or anybody who was not thinking like they were..

The communists were mostly anti- Orthodox.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 07:08:52 AM
  Right now , we have Russia funding their proxy state and ally called Iran to develop nuclear weaopns to finish the job Hitler started.  Yes, I am a Jew and I know who my enemy is now.  Stop living in WWII, this is the year 2008!

Yess this is not WW2, you want to say that it is today all different?

So today you can cooperate with the Catholics, Pope and the German and all others who have killed Jews in the past? Only because this is not WW2? Do you know how you sound? Do you have any principles?
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: cjd on October 02, 2008, 07:10:41 AM
This genocide is something that the Russians had never organized against you.

You have to be kidding!! Russia would have cleaned house if it wasn't for the fact that some of their best scientist were Jews. Why do you think they were so reluctant to see Jews leave Russia back in the 80's. Russia may be good for Serbia however don't try to convince us of its beneficence towards Jews and other groups we all know they would slaughter if they could.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 07:12:12 AM

For your information, Russia is planning a very big holocaust for us Jews even today.  What do I care about Croats right now, they are not threatening my backyard

- You should not lie

- and Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness

Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 07:13:43 AM
This genocide is something that the Russians had never organized against you.

You have to be kidding!! Russia would have cleaned house if it wasn't for the fact that some of their best scientist were Jews. Why do you think they were so reluctant to see Jews leave Russia back in the 80's. Russia may be good for Serbia however don't try to convince us of its beneficence towards Jews and other groups we all know they would slaughter if they could.

Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness  against your brothers....

Can you prove this all?
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: cjd on October 02, 2008, 07:24:12 AM
This genocide is something that the Russians had never organized against you.

You have to be kidding!! Russia would have cleaned house if it wasn't for the fact that some of their best scientist were Jews. Why do you think they were so reluctant to see Jews leave Russia back in the 80's. Russia may be good for Serbia however don't try to convince us of its beneficence towards Jews and other groups we all know they would slaughter if they could.

Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness  against your brothers....

Can you prove this all?
What brother am I bearing false witness against just so I know. Whats to prove its all part of history and has been documented extensively. Serbia had better be careful because Russia is not a country that likes to leave after it comes in to give help. You may fine the deal you make with them is not all that great.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: AryehYehudah on October 02, 2008, 07:27:34 AM

For your information, Russia is planning a very big holocaust for us Jews even today.  What do I care about Croats right now, they are not threatening my backyard

- You should not lie

- and Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness




Eat your own words!!   We are not lying and nobody needs you to twist Torah for your advantage.   You Serbs close your eyes to what Russia has and is doing to us.  Us Jews have to much compassion to turn blind eye to oppression that has been committed amongst others, like your people.  We would do good if we could care about ourselves more than our so-called allies for once.  For every dollar Russia gives to Iran, Arabs, Communist Anti-Semties (Russia, Cuba)  , a hundred more curses to Russia and her allies!!!!!  

By the way stop saying I support Cathoilcs, Germans, Leftist Liberals.  I am tired of hearing you say that.  I am against all Jew haters, left-wing liberal countries.  I don't support gay marriage or German techno.  I am reserved person and I am not blind to the oppression Jews faced from other False Christians and Muslims.   Yes, I know Germany is an evil left-wing nation, yet today it poses a much lesser threat than Russia and its allies.  Deny it if you will, but modern day events speak for themself.  Sadly, us Jews lived happier lives in Germany than in Russia, Ukraine (Orthodox eastern/Catholic COuntries), that is, until Adolf Shitler came and wiped us out.  It was the success of Jews in Germany why the Germans had them executed.  In Russia, Jews never got to achieve such high positions and there was no need to wipe them out, rather just go to their villages beat them, rape their women and burn and loot their houses.

There is Catholics today who support Israel and almost no Orthodox Christian People who support Israel, except for Serbia (I guess).  As a matter of fact, some Orthodox Priests who have their large fortresses on Jewish land spend a lot of time speaking against Israel and its government for its oppressive policies to Palestinia_n Nazi people.    If you forget, Yassir Arafat's wife was also an Orthodox Christian woman and her and many of her church are some of the greatest Jew haters in modern history.  I know there is many Catholics, Christians even Hindus who hate Israel and want it destroyed.  However, there is many Catholics, Christians, Hindus, even Buddhists who support Israel and will ally with us.   However, I think in this modern world, the number of Orthodox Christians who are Anti-Semitic are higher than any other.  So, please save us the speech of promoting a nationalistic Orthodox Russian empire.  We Jews experienced that already once!  Yes, I am aware many Catholics do not like Jews, but there are also many who support them.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/124634
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1192380742618&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suha_Arafat
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 07:38:46 AM
This genocide is something that the Russians had never organized against you.

You have to be kidding!! Russia would have cleaned house if it wasn't for the fact that some of their best scientist were Jews. Why do you think they were so reluctant to see Jews leave Russia back in the 80's. Russia may be good for Serbia however don't try to convince us of its beneficence towards Jews and other groups we all know they would slaughter if they could.

Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness  against your brothers....

Can you prove this all?
What brother am I bearing false witness against just so I know. Whats to prove its all part of history and has been documented extensively. Serbia had better be careful because Russia is not a country that likes to leave after it comes in to give help. You may fine the deal you make with them is not all that great.


Well you are not that informed about Russia as I am.
In contradiction to you Latins (Who write in Latin) we from the Eastern Block who write in Cyrillic do not lie so much....!!!

"The Russia were not allowing the Jews to leave the USSR."
You are putting this statement out of it's real context.

Russia was not allowing any citizens to leave USSR, not only Jews.
The communist authorities thought that if USSR citizens start to leave the territory of the USSR, the USSR sensitive information would also leave the USSR's borders with them.  

To say that Russia is preparing genocide against Jews is unrealistic.
Russia has a certain area in Russia which is dedicated to the Jews.
It is called Jewish autonomous region of Russia.

Russia is arming Iran I know, but not with nuclear materials.
If America wants to invade Iran in order to encircle Russia, than they should be stopped – according to Russia safety security.  That’s why they do not want that the USA invades Iran, because they would be to close to Russia.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: AryehYehudah on October 02, 2008, 07:42:29 AM
This genocide is something that the Russians had never organized against you.

You have to be kidding!! Russia would have cleaned house if it wasn't for the fact that some of their best scientist were Jews. Why do you think they were so reluctant to see Jews leave Russia back in the 80's. Russia may be good for Serbia however don't try to convince us of its beneficence towards Jews and other groups we all know they would slaughter if they could.

Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness  against your brothers....

Can you prove this all?
What brother am I bearing false witness against just so I know. Whats to prove its all part of history and has been documented extensively. Serbia had better be careful because Russia is not a country that likes to leave after it comes in to give help. You may fine the deal you make with them is not all that great.


Well you are not that informed about Russia as I am.
In contradiction to you Latins (Who write in Latin) we from the Eastern Block who write in Cyrillic do not lie so much....!!!

"The Russia were not allowing the Jews to leave the USSR."
You are putting this statement out of it's real context.

Russia was not allowing any citizens to leave USSR, not only Jews.
The communist authorities thought that if USSR citizens start to leave the territory of the USSR, the USSR sensitive information would also leave the USSR's borders with them.  

To say that Russia is preparing genocide against Jews is unrealistic.
Russia has a certain area in Russia which is dedicated to the Jews.
It is called Jewish autonomous region of Russia.

Russia is arming Iran I know, but not with nuclear materials.
If America wants to invade Iran in order to encircle Russia, than they should be stopped – according to Russia safety security.  That’s why they do not want that the USA invades Iran, because they would be to close to Russia.



That is why, Russia is arming its ally Iran with nuclear weapon to wipe out Israel, which is quite close to Russia and can even possibly wipe Russia out.  You are naive to say Russia is not arming Iran with nuclear weapons.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 07:44:09 AM

Eat your own words!!   We are not lying and nobody needs you to twist Torah for your advantage.   You Serbs close your eyes to what Russia has and is doing to us.  Us Jews have to much compassion to turn blind eye to oppression that has been committed amongst others, like your people.  We would do good if we could care about ourselves more than our so-called allies for once.  For every dollar Russia gives to Iran, Arabs, Communist Anti-Semties (Russia, Cuba)  , a hundred more curses to Russia and her allies!!!!!  


Friend you are saying that Russia is preparing an holocaust.
Do not misuse that word please! You should not talk like this.
America was also sponsering the radical Islam in the Middle East.
But no, you will not condemn the USA. In your eyes the USA is a freedom fighter?

But America who is killing people in Iraq and Afganistan?
Will that not bring curses to the USA and their allies?
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: cjd on October 02, 2008, 08:10:39 AM
Here in America you get all sides of the story the lies the truth and a mixture of both. We have had an open society that allows all view points to be published unlike what existed and may still exist in Russia where only government approved positions are allowed to exist. My Interests are American and by extension for Americas allies which Israel is one. America has done some evil things in her history however it has never stooped to the levels that Russia has when dealing with people they think don't fit into the picture. As I said if Serbia is comfortable accepting help from Russia all well and fine but please do expect people outside of Serbia to be comfortable with Russia's policies as a whole. I have been around long enough to see Russia under Communist rule and whatever they have going on today to be honest I see little difference. Russia's biggest problem is they are still fighting the cold war and can't see that the world has changed around them. Instead of working with America to quell unrest they never miss an opportunity to raise unrest in the world. In the end this will be what starts WW3. With all the resources Russia has at its disposal it for all purposes is no better than a third world country. The sad fact of the matter is they impose that situation on themselves.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 08:11:53 AM
By the way stop saying I support Cathoilcs, Germans, Leftist Liberals.  I am tired of hearing you say that.  I am against all Jew haters, left-wing liberal countries.  I don't support gay marriage or German techno.  I am reserved person and I am not blind to the oppression Jews faced from other False Christians and Muslims.   Yes, I know Germany is an evil left-wing nation, yet today it poses a much lesser threat than Russia and its allies.  Deny it if you will, but modern day events speak for themself.  Sadly, us Jews lived happier lives in Germany than in Russia, Ukraine (Orthodox eastern/Catholic COuntries), that is, until Adolf Shitler came and wiped us out.  It was the success of Jews in Germany why the Germans had them executed.  In Russia, Jews never got to achieve such high positions and there was no need to wipe them out, rather just go to their villages beat them, rape their women and burn and loot their houses.

There is Catholics today who support Israel and almost no Orthodox Christian People who support Israel, except for Serbia (I guess).  As a matter of fact, some Orthodox Priests who have their large fortresses on Jewish land spend a lot of time speaking against Israel and its government for its oppressive policies to Palestinia_n Nazi people.    If you forget, Yassir Arafat's wife was also an Orthodox Christian woman and her and many of her church are some of the greatest Jew haters in modern history.  I know there is many Catholics, Christians even Hindus who hate Israel and want it destroyed.  However, there is many Catholics, Christians, Hindus, even Buddhists who support Israel and will ally with us.   However, I think in this modern world, the number of Orthodox Christians who are Anti-Semitic are higher than any other.  So, please save us the speech of promoting a nationalistic Orthodox Russian empire.  We Jews experienced that already once!  Yes, I am aware many Catholics do not like Jews, but there are also many who support them.

Look a friend is not the same as a blind individual who unconditionally says that you are right. Some times friends must correct each others and wise at negative and positive things of each others.

You say that the Catholics today support Israel?
Is supporting Israel the same as supporting the Jewish nation?
When Israel did not exist were they also supporting the Jews?

Today everybody can say that he supports the Jews.

We Serbs supported the Jews during the period of 1941 - 1945.
During those hard circumstances it was very difficult to support the Jewish people.
Thank heaven the at least Chaim Ben Pessach and individuals like he are recognizing this important historical fact.
When we supported the Jews we supported them while risking our own lives.
It was the Orthodox Church who instructed the nationalistic Serbs - who were loyal to the king and fatherland - to save people from Nazi exterminations.

This are proven facts. I am not making this up.

Is Israel today supporting the Serbs? No.
They are recognizing Croatia and Bosnia as independent countries.
Croatia and Bosnia are irregular states which should not exists in the borders which they occupy today.

What do you expect from Russia to unconditionally support Israel?
Is not Israel the ally of the USA. The USA is little by little surrounding the Russian federation.

Russia is the protector of the real original Christianity which was the former religion of those who considered their selves today as Catholics and Protestants.
Endangering such a great Orthodox nation as Russia should concern all true Christians and people of good will.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: AryehYehudah on October 02, 2008, 08:12:37 AM

Eat your own words!!   We are not lying and nobody needs you to twist Torah for your advantage.   You Serbs close your eyes to what Russia has and is doing to us.  Us Jews have to much compassion to turn blind eye to oppression that has been committed amongst others, like your people.  We would do good if we could care about ourselves more than our so-called allies for once.  For every dollar Russia gives to Iran, Arabs, Communist Anti-Semties (Russia, Cuba)  , a hundred more curses to Russia and her allies!!!!!  


Friend you are saying that Russia is preparing an holocaust.
Do not misuse that word please! You should not talk like this.
America was also sponsering the radical Islam in the Middle East.
But no, you will not condemn the USA. In your eyes the USA is a freedom fighter?

But America who is killing people in Iraq and Afganistan?
Will that not bring curses to the USA and their allies?

MY G-d, if I didn't know better I would think I am talking to an Obama supporter or a Muslim.  America killed Sadam Hussein and put Osama bin Laden on the run.   I am sick and tired of hearing people say America killing innocent people in Iraq and Afghanistan.  If  I had it my way I would like it if Israel and American can drop an atomic bomb on Afghanistan , Pakistan and Iraq.  I thank America for wiping out one of the Israel's worst enemies, Iraq!   Now America is being hindered by left-wing commies, like Pelosi (who is very Pro-Russian) and other non-American traitors.  America is doing a great job in Iraq, our only failure is that we are trying to build a democracy there.  We should have blown the place to pieces like Nazi germany and took control of their oil fields, rather than let the greasy Arats and Shiitite muslims get their hands  on them.  One thing I respect about Russia is it knows how to wipe out its enemies, Americans have too much compassion.  But many Americans do support the complete takeover of Arab and Muslim nazi nations and would gladly seize the oil fields from Saudi Aratia and Irat/Iran.    If anyone will do it , it will be America and Israel.  The Russians of course would do the same if they could, that is after America and Israel is wiped out.    You really contradict yourself as well, you say America is supporting radical islam, then you say they are killing innocent radical muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan.

By the way, I do support the brave American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan who are fighting muslim nazi terrorists, even though the mission is misguided.  Too bad they have to give their lives establishing a democracy that will never succeed.   My Father is a Vietnam vet (who joined Marine Hospital Corps, not drafted), who was transfered to Navy and served in hospital ship and gladly helped wounded soldiers who gave their life fighting Vietkong commy nazi pigs.  Thanks to lefist cowards, America left and let the South Vietnamese be eaten alive by the bloodthirsty dictator Ho Chi Minh and his leftist Russian/Chinese allies.


 :dance: :dance:  BOM-BOM-BOM-BOM BOMB IRAN!   Good Mentality!   McCain/Palin 2008  :dance: :dance:
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 08:18:30 AM
:dance: :dance:  BOM-BOM-BOM-BOM BOMB IRAN!   Good Mentality!   McCain/Palin 2008  :dance: :dance:

This will save the Middle East?

I can not believe you....
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: AryehYehudah on October 02, 2008, 08:19:11 AM
:dance: :dance:  BOM-BOM-BOM-BOM BOMB IRAN!   Good Mentality!   McCain/Palin 2008  :dance: :dance:

This will save the Middle East?

I can not believe you....

It will save Israel.. who cares about the Middle B-east.. 
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 08:29:49 AM
You really contradict yourself as well, you say America is supporting radical islam, then you say they are killing innocent radical muslims in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Am I : ) ?


The USA promotes radical Islam in Orthodox countries(Russia, Serbia, Bosnia ect.) to destroy Orthodoxy. It was therefore that the USA had organized the network of Bill Laden's terrorists in order to fight the Soviets – during the 80s. During the war in Yugoslavia, the Americans had transferred these terrorists into Bosnia and Kosovo to accomplish the destruction of Yugoslavia. In Iraq the USA is killing civilians, because the Iraqi people are not willing to be submitted to Western will. In Serbia the West was carrying out the same program of destruction against the Serbs who had resisted NATO fascism.   
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: AryehYehudah on October 02, 2008, 08:46:42 AM

Look a friend is not the same as a blind individual who unconditionally says that you are right. Some times friends must correct each others and wise at negative and positive things of each others.

You say that the Catholics today support Israel?
Is supporting Israel the same as supporting the Jewish nation?
When Israel did not exist were they also supporting the Jews?

Today everybody can say that he supports the Jews.

I never said the Catholics supported Israel or Jews.  I said there is people who are Catholic faith who do support Israel.  I am not blind to oppression commited by Catholics against Jews.  However, the mentality of Old Catholicism has left for a revised version of Catholicism which is more opened to teaching of Jews as being a Chosen People and Israel as Land Of Jewish.  However, I know there is many Old-School Catholics who hate the "Christ Killers".  However, the Catholics were more accepting to converts than Orthodox.  Even one of the would-be popes, highest ranking cardinal is half Jewish (on mother side, legally Jewish).  You will not find any Jewish converts who could ever make it to such high rank in most Orthodox churches.  As a matter of fact, Russians regurlarly screen their leaders and officials to make sure they dont have any alien, Jewish blood, like which they accused of Medvedev.   Once again, I don't know about Serbian Orthodox.


We Serbs supported the Jews during the period of 1941 - 1945.
During those hard circumstances it was very difficult to support the Jewish people.
Thank heaven the at least Chaim Ben Pessach and individuals like he are recognizing this important historical fact.
When we supported the Jews we supported them while risking our own lives.
It was the Orthodox Church who instructed the nationalistic Serbs - who were loyal to the king and fatherland - to save people from Nazi exterminations.

This are proven facts. I am not making this up.

G-d bless Serbia for how it helped the Jews.  So I pray that Serbia can continue to support Jews by supporting Israel by helping to oppose its enemies, such as Arabs, Muslims and Russians.   As for Chaim ben Pesach, almost everything you say contradicts what I see from him.  Of course, you, he and many others here will agree on supporting Serbia against Muslim and Nazi oppressors.  Yes, I support Serbia for its brave struggle against Nazis and how it was one of the few countries in Europe, especially Orthodox, that did not persecute, but rather sheltered Jewish people.  However, your past heroism does not make up for negligence you are doing today, by supporting a rising evil regime that has been our enemy for over 1000 of years, perhaps.  It was also the Orthodox Church who supported pogroms and blood libels against Jews and help label Jews as enemies of G-d and Christ killers.  Yes, I am talking of Russian , Ukranian, Greek and other Orthodox churches, not yours.  But, don't generalize Orthodox Churches in one category.


Is Israel today supporting the Serbs? No.
They are recognizing Croatia and Bosnia as independent countries.
Croatia and Bosnia are irregular states which should not exists in the borders which they occupy today.

No, Israel is right now under the authority of a leftist communist/socialist Jew hating dictatorship.  One thing you forget , is that many Jews support Serbia, so why don't you not insult my homeland as supporting Croats and Serbs.  There is plenty of Jews who would fight to help your people if they had the ability.  Israel is a divided land and the liberal nazis are all on birth control pills and are sterilizing themselves, Praise G-d.  And by the way, why should Israel support an ally of its greatest enemy, Russia?  Israel will never support you until you renounce your allegiance with Russia.


What do you expect from Russia to unconditionally support Israel?

No, I expect Russia to do all in its power to annilhate poor little Israel.  But we have a very Great G-d, who will make sure the evil Russians will failt in their pursuits!


Russia is the protector of the real original Christianity which was the former religion of those who considered their selves today as Catholics and Protestants.
Endangering such a great Orthodox nation as Russia should concern all true Christians and people of good will.

Well, if Russia is the protector of the real original Christianity, then I really don't like Christianity!   Russia's Christianity oppressed my people for generations and we suffered much discrimination and hardships from your beloved Russian Orthodox rule.    I want you to do me a favor and read some Jewish history and learn about how the so-called true founders of the "real" Christianity treated its Jewish settlers.  You love to post from Ten Commandments, here is one, "Thou Shalt Not Murder" and "Thou Shalt Not Steal."  How come the true, original Russian Christians, had no problem wiping us Jews and taking our properties, forcing us to pay taxes that were unbearable and banning us from jobs.   I do love many Christians, but not the type of Christanity you are referring to!  

Do me a favor.. Please Read this webpage in its entirety..  You know little of Jewish history and our lives in Orthodox Russia..  Why you can post these false endorsements of Russian so boldly on a Jewish site, is beyond me.  Please read this thoroughly and get back to me:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/russia.html

Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: AryehYehudah on October 02, 2008, 08:56:05 AM

The USA promotes radical Islam in Orthodox countries(Russia, Serbia, Bosnia ect.) to destroy Orthodoxy. It was therefore that the USA had organized the network of Bill Laden's terrorists in order to fight the Soviets – during the 80s. During the war in Yugoslavia, the Americans had transferred these terrorists into Bosnia and Kosovo to accomplish the destruction of Yugoslavia. In Iraq the USA is killing civilians, because the Iraqi people are not willing to be submitted to Western will. In Serbia the West was carrying out the same program of destruction against the Serbs who had resisted NATO fascism.   


USA is not seeking to destroy Orthodoxy.  Russia has lot of power and authority today and has sought to destroy America and all those against its oppressive theologies.  Did you forget that Russia attempted to destroy Judaism, because Jews wanted freedom from Russia?  They were expecting Israel to be a Communazi territory like its other colonized nations.   In my opinion, America is not killing enough people in Iraq.. We should have bombed that country to a pile of dust.   The country is full of Jew hating Islamonazis..  Screw Iraq!   I am sick of your communazi leftist-rhetoric.  You didn't mind when Russia killed civilans in Georgia, so stop complaning about civilians dying in Iraq, that is war!  Am I going to soon hear you cry about all the innocent German and Japanese citizens killed by Americans in WWII?  Why don't you go to Jeremiah Wright's website, he will agree with you.    The Iraqi people are allies to Russia and thats why you defend their tyrannical, anti-Semitic regime.  If the Iraqis won't shape up, then we need a big bull to teach them some manners.  That hellhole Iraq and their leader Sadamite Hussein, tried everything in their power to destroy Israel.   A friend of our family lost his finger and eyeball by an IED device helping to defend Iraqi citizens against their own terrorist people.  So, I want you to do me a favor and quiet yourself about how Americans are killing innocent civilians in Iraq..

Let me tell you something else.  I too would help support Osama bin Laden against Russia. Because Russia is much worse than the little arat turd named bin Laden.  Bin Laden blew up the World Trade CEnter.  Russia can destroy the world.  Why not let the greasebag Bin Laden risk his and his degenerate arab fighters lose their life fighting Russia, then ours.  This was an intelligent move by America.  Now, we helped fight off Russia, we can now go in and take care of Bin Laden and his clan of cowardly cave fighters.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: cjd on October 02, 2008, 09:05:31 AM

The USA promotes radical Islam in Orthodox countries(Russia, Serbia, Bosnia ect.) to destroy Orthodoxy. It was therefore that the USA had organized the network of Bill Laden's terrorists in order to fight the Soviets – during the 80s. During the war in Yugoslavia, the Americans had transferred these terrorists into Bosnia and Kosovo to accomplish the destruction of Yugoslavia. In Iraq the USA is killing civilians, because the Iraqi people are not willing to be submitted to Western will. In Serbia the West was carrying out the same program of destruction against the Serbs who had resisted NATO fascism.   


USA is not seeking to destroy Orthodoxy.  Russia has lot of power and authority today and has sought to destroy America and all those against its oppressive theologies.  Did you forget that Russia attempted to destroy Judaism, because Jews wanted freedom from Russia?  They were expecting Israel to be a Communazi territory like its other colonized nations.   In my opinion, America is not killing enough people in Iraq.. We should have bombed that country to a pile of dust.   The country is full of Jew hating Islamonazis..  Screw Iraq!   I am sick of your communazi leftist-rhetoric.  You didn't mind when Russia killed civilans in Georgia, so stop complaning about civilians dying in Iraq, that is war!  Am I going to soon hear you cry about all the innocent German and Japanese citizens killed by Americans in WWII?  Why don't you go to Jeremiah Wright's website, he will agree with you.    The Iraqi people are allies to Russia and thats why you defend their tyrannical, anti-Semitic regime.  If the Iraqis won't shape up, then we need a big bull to teach them some manners.  That hellhole Iraq and their leader Sadamite Hussein, tried everything in their power to destroy Israel.   A friend of our family lost his finger and eyeball by an IED device helping to defend Iraqi citizens against their own terrorist people.  So, I want you to do me a favor and quiet yourself about how Americans are killing innocent civilians in Iraq..

Let me tell you something else.  I too would help support Osama bin Laden against Russia. Because Russia is much worse than the little arat turd named bin Laden.  Bin Laden blew up the World Trade CEnter.  Russia can destroy the world.  Why not let the greasebag Bin Laden risk his and his degenerate arab fighters lose their life fighting Russia, then ours.  This was an intelligent move by America.  Now, we helped fight off Russia, we can now go in and take care of Bin Laden and his clan of cowardly cave fighters.

Very well stated!!
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: MarZutra on October 02, 2008, 11:08:13 AM
I don't see this as a good thing.  People should have the freedom, so long as it not child porn or some other of the vilest form of subhuman activity.  The failure here is that both Russia, America, like Canada and England do not teach morality but have embraced/propagated Humanism/Socialism and the Communalist ideal of which there is no morality...which is one major reason why all are declining into moral debasement.

If children are brought up on good morals they would choose not to watch these sorts of films.  If there is no or a very small audience for this sort of viewing it probably would be uneconomical to produce and therefore be no market.  This would also apply to pornography, prostitution, homosexuality and other forms of immoral activity.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: syyuge on October 02, 2008, 02:27:30 PM
Moreover to sprinkle the salt on open wounds, the capitalism and socialism both openly proclaim that morality is solely the problem of the middle classes.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: P J C on October 02, 2008, 02:49:17 PM
In Russia, I will always be a "zhid"!

Thats their shame not yours...

At least they were not puting you in death camps like good brave Catholic Croats..
There is no reason for you to throw Catholocism into this!!! You could have just said croats!
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: MarZutra on October 02, 2008, 03:18:37 PM
Moreover to sprinkle the salt on open wounds, the capitalism and socialism both openly proclaim that morality is solely the problem of the middle classes.
This position is incorrect brother "Capitalism" is purely an economic thought while socialism is socio-political and economic thought..  Capitalism is usually, in Western thought (America), associated with Right Wing Nationalism and Conservatism. 

This differs a bit from the sort of Capitalism which England experienced during their Industrial Revolution.  I will expand on this at a later date...

Shalom...
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 03:26:53 PM
I never said the Catholics supported Israel or Jews.  I said there is people who are Catholic faith who do support Israel.  I am not blind to oppression commited by Catholics against Jews.  However, the mentality of Old Catholicism has left for a revised version of Catholicism which is more opened to teaching of Jews as being a Chosen People and Israel as Land Of Jewish.  However, I know there is many Old-School Catholics who hate the "Christ Killers".  However, the Catholics were more accepting to converts than Orthodox.  Even one of the would-be popes, highest ranking cardinal is half Jewish (on mother side, legally Jewish).  You will not find any Jewish converts who could ever make it to such high rank in most Orthodox churches.  As a matter of fact, Russians regurlarly screen their leaders and officials to make sure they dont have any alien, Jewish blood, like which they accused of Medvedev.

I do not agree with you in general but I appreciate your openness.

Thanks for proving my point.

The Catholics are willing to compromise, that means that they are not strong in their religion. Today have you many Catholic missionaries who are willing to compromise with Protestants and Orthodox Christians. We strongly disagree with this, because we are simply not the same religion. If we were we would not have so many differences.
But because the Roman church had left the Apostolic Church, by bringing changes into their teachings – they have nothing in common anymore with that old  religion of their forefather (before the year of 1054).  If you do not believe me do some research. Before the Roman Church left the Apostolic Church (before the year of 1054) they, who called them today Roman Catholics, had exactly the same teachings which are today only offered by the Orthodox Church. Western priests were before 1054 Orthodox Christians and their teaching was in accordance with the teachings of the Churchfathers and the apostles. The Western priests were wearing bears, praying with icons and were getting married – before 1054.  After 1054 (Church break) they had brought changes into their religion. Sins that moment they had lost the purity of the Christian religion.

I must say this, the Western Church had changed a long time before the year of 1054 their teachings. The had officially separated their selves from us in 1054.
In 1054 the volcano finally exploded with consequence the well know Church separation.
But before 1054 the same volcano could had exploded any moment because it was constantly boiling. 

They, the Catholics, were demanding from us the Eastern Christians, who kept the teachings of the Churchfathers, to also accept the Pope and his new view of modern Christianity. We had refused that and since then they never stopped with the prosecution against us.

The Vatican will never rest until whole Europe is catholized or at least Orthodox free.
They want to destroy everything that reminds them about their old faith about Orthodox pure Christianity. In order to destroy Orthodox Christianity they, the Vatican, supported the Muslims destruction against the Orthodox Byzantic Empire.
They have cooperated with anybody in order to destroy Orthodoxy.

- In the 14 and 15 century – the Vatican helped the Turkish Empire to destroy the Orthodox Byzantic Empire.

- In the beginning of the 20th century the Vatican in cooperation with the international freemasons had launched the criminal ideology of communism in Serbia and Russia.
This regressive system hafizes the Russian population. The Communist crimes against the Serbs and Russians are well know.   

The Pope had said many times after USSR’s collapse that communism, as intended, had succeeded in the political, economical and spiritual destruction of Russia and Serbia and that this process shall continue.


   Once again, I don't know about Serbian Orthodox.


It is the same as Russian Orthodoxy.

However, your past heroism does not make up for negligence you are doing today, by supporting a rising evil regime that has been our enemy for over 1000 of years, perhaps.  It was also the Orthodox Church who supported pogroms and blood libels against Jews and help label Jews as enemies of G-d and Christ killers. 

The Russian Orthodox Church did not support that.

Come the Church does not propagate hatered towards Jews.
If some Jews had been prosecuted in a large country like Russia, you can not blame the Russian Orthodox Church collectively. The Russian Orthodox did not support the collective blaming of the Jews for what happened 2000 years ago.
There is a difference between individual crimes and crime organized by authorities like the Church (Vatican for example against the Jews) and the government (for example Nazi Germany’s government). The Russians had never tried to biological exterminate the Jews or others. The individual crimes who are committed against the Jews I of course condemn - that is possible in a large country like Russia - but you can not blame the Russian nation or Church.
I also do not blame the whole Jewish nation for crimes against Serbs committed by Jewish politicians. 

Futher many Jews lived in Russia and live today.
They have even their own autonomous area in Russia!
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: P J C on October 02, 2008, 03:45:31 PM
I never said the Catholics supported Israel or Jews.  I said there is people who are Catholic faith who do support Israel.  I am not blind to oppression commited by Catholics against Jews.  However, the mentality of Old Catholicism has left for a revised version of Catholicism which is more opened to teaching of Jews as being a Chosen People and Israel as Land Of Jewish.  However, I know there is many Old-School Catholics who hate the "Christ Killers".  However, the Catholics were more accepting to converts than Orthodox.  Even one of the would-be popes, highest ranking cardinal is half Jewish (on mother side, legally Jewish).  You will not find any Jewish converts who could ever make it to such high rank in most Orthodox churches.  As a matter of fact, Russians regurlarly screen their leaders and officials to make sure they dont have any alien, Jewish blood, like which they accused of Medvedev.

I do not agree with you in general but I appreciate your openness.

Thanks for proving my point.

The Catholics are willing to compromise, that means that they are not strong in their religion. Today have you many Catholic missionaries who are willing to compromise with Protestants and Orthodox Christians. We strongly disagree with this, because we are simply not the same religion. If we were we would not have so many differences.
But because the Roman church had left the Apostolic Church, by bringing changes into their teachings – they have nothing in common anymore with that old  religion of their forefather (before the year of 1054).  If you do not believe me do some research. Before the Roman Church left the Apostolic Church (before the year of 1054) they, who called them today Roman Catholics, had exactly the same teachings which are today only offered by the Orthodox Church. Western priests were before 1054 Orthodox Christians and their teaching was in accordance with the teachings of the Churchfathers and the apostles. The Western priests were wearing bears, praying with icons and were getting married – before 1054.  After 1054 (Church break) they had brought changes into their religion. Sins that moment they had lost the purity of the Christian religion.

I must say this, the Western Church had changed a long time before the year of 1054 their teachings. The had officially separated their selves from us in 1054.
In 1054 the volcano finally exploded with consequence the well know Church separation.
But before 1054 the same volcano could had exploded any moment because it was constantly boiling. 

They, the Catholics, were demanding from us the Eastern Christians, who kept the teachings of the fore fathers, to also accept the Pope and his new view of modern Christianity. We had refused that and since then they never stopped with the prosecution against us.

The Vatican will never rest until whole Europe is catholized or at least Orthodox free.
They want to destroy everything that reminds them about their old faith about Orthodox pure Christianity. In order to destroy Orthodox Christianity they, the Vatican, supported the Muslims destruction against the Orthodox Byzantic Empire.
They have cooperated with anybody in order to destroy Orthodoxy.

- In the 14 and 15 century – the Vatican helped the Turkish Empire to destroy the Orthodox Byzantic Empire.

- In the beginning of the 20th century the Vatican in cooperation with the international freemasons had launched the criminal ideology of communism in Serbia and Russia.
This regressive system hafizes the Russian population. The Communist crimes against the Serbs and Russians are well know.   

The Pope had said many times after USSR’s collapse that communism, as intended, had succeeded in the political, economical and spiritual destruction of Russia and Serbia and that this process shall continue.


   Once again, I don't know about Serbian Orthodox.


It is the same as Russian Orthodoxy.

However, your past heroism does not make up for negligence you are doing today, by supporting a rising evil regime that has been our enemy for over 1000 of years, perhaps.  It was also the Orthodox Church who supported pogroms and blood libels against Jews and help label Jews as enemies of G-d and Christ killers. 

The Russian Orthodox Church did not support that.

Come the Church does not propagate hatered towards Jews.
If some Jews had been prosecuted in a large country like Russia, you can not blame the Russian Orthodox Church collectively. The Russian Orthodox did not support the collective blaming of the Jews for what happened 2000 years ago.
There is a difference between individual crimes and crime organized by authorities like the Church (Vatican for example against the Jews) and the government (for example Nazi Germany’s government). The Russians had never tried to biological exterminate the Jews or others. The individual crimes who are committed against the Jews I of course condemn - that is possible in a large country like Russia - but you can not blame the Russian nation or Church.
I also do not blame the whole Jewish nation for crimes against Serbs committed by Jewish politicians. 

Futher many Jews lived in Russia and live today.
They have even their own autonomous area in Russia!

The Russian people seem to have no objection to their commandships actions. Also you can practice what you preach. You can not go after croatia ( a country that persecuted jews ) when you support a country that is infamous for their persecution of the Jews. I dont need to remind you of what the Soviets did. I dont need to remind you of what the Russians are currently doing with Iran. And respond to me in ENGLISH!!!!
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 02, 2008, 03:58:14 PM
The Russian people seem to have no objection to their commandships actions. Also you can practice what you preach. You can not go after croatia ( a country that persecuted jews ) when you support a country that is infamous for their persecution of the Jews. I dont need to remind you of what the Soviets did. I dont need to remind you of what the Russians are currently doing with Iran. And respond to me in ENGLISH!!!!

Was the USSR state pro Russian? Friend did not the communists killed about 55.000.000 Russians?. The majority of the Soviet government was not Orthodox.

[quote author=ProJewChristian link=topic=26787.msg285726#msg285726 And respond to me in ENGLISH!!!!


What do you mean? ? ? ?
You want to say that my English languages is bad?
Well, I have written my last post very fast and I did not pay much attention to grammar or spelling.

If I make mistakes than correct me because English is not my first language.
Do not say that I can not speak English, that is very rude...
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: MarZutra on October 02, 2008, 05:00:40 PM
Dalmacija, I think the crux of the problem here is that we here support the Christian Serbs agaisnt both the Communists and the Moslem Hord, as both in ideology and in deed are an affront to Judaism and everything it stands for: Jews, Israel and of course G-d.

When it comes to Russia, you must accept that Russia pre- and post Communist/Soviet Rule has never been an ally of the Jewish people, an enemy.  Lenin was akin to a Henry Kissenger, Ehud Olmert or a Shimon Perez a G0dless individual of "Jewish" origin but truly one which hates everything that encompasses their entire being.

Under the Czar, Russia persecuted the Jews, as you know.  Under the Soviets/Communists, the Great Synagogue was a center for KGB infiltration to send Jews to the Gulag.  No tell in how many Jews and rightoues non-Communists died in the Gulag system.  Since the early 1960's - 80's (actually to this day) Russia, either openly or via their proxies; Cuba, China, North Korea, the Turd World or their Mohammedan teet sucklers, has come to the assistance of every Pan-Arab and Mohammedan Terrorist entity, be it a group or a dictatorial regime: Syria, Egypt, Libya etc. against Israel. 

Today, Russia sides with Israel's enemies, but sadly America and Europe, who sometimes openly make base claims of support for Israel, make backroom deals to arm, fund and aid Israel's enemies.  Even more sadly, is the fact that Israel arms its enemies itself.

I hope I've clearified the main Jewish position against Russia and all of its allies...  But also the Elitist Establisment of America, Europe and Israel..
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Jasmina on October 02, 2008, 06:35:10 PM
   Unfortunatelly the ones who suffer the most because of political decissions are we, normal people! My country was 50 years under Communism, but yet, we don't blame Russian people for that!
  You all speak about political issues over centuries, and who was against whom, and why are we Serbs here on this forum if we are Russians allies?! Let me say this to you all: WE ARE NOT YOUR ENEMIES!!!! STOP QUESTIONING THAT! WE are here to try to make the things better for this world! We never questioned your "anti-Serb-itism", if I can say that, when US bombed Serbia!
 
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: MarZutra on October 02, 2008, 06:57:12 PM
Jasmina, I don't think anyone here is anti-Serb.  Russia, as aforementioned, has a horrible history against Jews and now Israel.  The adage "The enemy of my enemy is my friend" will not work here for the sole purpose that if one supports Jews and/or Israel, one cannot logically support its enemy. 

I'm disgusted at what the Elitists, with Russian assistance so I've read, had done via NATO under Bill Clinton and Javier Solona.  Those elitist NWO bastards, and all of their cohorts, should be tried for crimes against humanity and publicly hung. 

I am MarZutra and I approve this message... ;D
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Kerber on October 03, 2008, 12:07:07 AM
In Russia, I will always be a "zhid"!

Thats their shame not yours...

At least they were not puting you in death camps like good brave Catholic Croats..

Oh they had/have their plans, believe me.. Right before Stalin died, he was planning an even bigger Holocaust than Hitler, for us Jews.   Who knows what they are planning for us now.  Russia would have gladly given their Jews to Hitler, had Hitler not attacked them.
This is idiotism.
First,Stalin wasn't Russian,he was Georgian and he was a communist-an atheist,anti religious man.Communists in Russia massacred about 20 million Russians in gulags.(and most of them were Orthodox who were against communism as anti religious base for Soviet society).

Second,are you going to explain how Orthodox Russian people had its plans to exterminate all the Jews in Russia while being under communist regime that were brought from the outside of Orthodox lands?Let us all know for that "plan".Enlight me.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Kerber on October 03, 2008, 12:14:51 AM
To all non-informed,ignorant,and others>

We,patriotic and religious Serbs will ALWAYS stand with Russian Orthodox people,whether you like it or not.We have a common satanic enemy who tries to destroy us(biologically or to destroy our soul by much more evil way as the "euroatlantic integration politics").We will always be against the new Babylon cretaed in Euro-Atlanstic zone under the regime of Catholic Jesuits.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Jasmina on October 03, 2008, 01:47:27 AM
  OK, we need to calm down! Let's not forget why are we here!
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 03, 2008, 02:53:01 AM
To all non-informed,ignorant,and others>

We,patriotic and religious Serbs will ALWAYS stand with Russian Orthodox people,whether you like it or not.We have a common satanic enemy who tries to destroy us(biologically or to destroy our soul by much more evil way as the "euroatlantic integration politics").We will always be against the new Babylon cretaed in Euro-Atlanstic zone under the regime of Catholic Jesuits.

I agree..
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: P J C on October 03, 2008, 06:29:58 AM
To all non-informed,ignorant,and others>

We,patriotic and religious Serbs will ALWAYS stand with Russian Orthodox people,whether you like it or not.We have a common satanic enemy who tries to destroy us(biologically or to destroy our soul by much more evil way as the "euroatlantic integration politics").We will always be against the new Babylon cretaed in Euro-Atlanstic zone under the regime of Catholic Jesuits.
I will always condemn the evil Russian regime that is sanctioning global terrorism and radical Jihad. So, we're different on that.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: MarZutra on October 03, 2008, 07:56:17 AM
To all non-informed,ignorant,and others>

We,patriotic and religious Serbs will ALWAYS stand with Russian Orthodox people,whether you like it or not.We have a common satanic enemy who tries to destroy us(biologically or to destroy our soul by much more evil way as the "euroatlantic integration politics").We will always be against the new Babylon cretaed in Euro-Atlanstic zone under the regime of Catholic Jesuits.

I think the individual above was speaking about the scheme which surrounded the so-called "Dr.s plot." However I could be mistaken. 

Secondly, we understand your passion and connection with Russian Orthodox people, however you must also know that the Russian Orthodox people were never friends of their Jewish neighbor.  Yes, there were a few who were, like the Catholics in Europe pre/post holocaust, but the majority was still infected with this "Protocol" antisemitism. 

You are also well informed about the Gulags to which many Jews were also sent to die.

A very good piece of history, and further questioning is the 1945 sell out at the Malta Conference by FDR and Churchill, mostly FDR, to Stalin and the G-dless Communists.  Shortly after Malta the majority of lands in Europe with Othodox population quickly fell behind the Iron Curtain to suffer the fait of Communism.  Georgia became a "Russian" province or was annexed by the Red Army in 1922 I believe, probably because of Stalin's influance, but gained its independance in 1991 but failed to meet the qualifications to enter NATO due to continual it being a dictatorship with continual civil unrest and "human rights" violations or some such issues....  Obviously I've the basics but Georgia, specifically is not one of my areas of knowledge or interest...

Phelps, in his book, touted by Nik; "Vatican Assassins" places forward the theory that the Vatican via the Jesuit Order was behind the negotiations with the intentions of making the Orthodox pay for their ongoing revolution against the Catholic/Vatican which started with the 1517 Reformation which supposedly ended with "Peace of Westphalia" in 1648.  Many believe this to be untrue...  Many see the wars stemming from the Reformation were strongly influanced bye the Reformation itself...  Certainly possible but the literature on this angle of history remains largely unpublished..

My take on the situation is that the territories that wanted to leave and become independent or become a part of Russia after the so-called "Fall of Communism" in 1988-9 could basically do so.  Many were/are still puppet States of, or cohorts with, Russia with limited "democratic" parliamentary processes from my understanding. 

Georgia, like many others, was/is propped up by America as a puppet "democracy" (dictatorship). To keep control of regions in dispute and protect oil pipeline that runs through Georgia.  The areas in question are basically Russian population, if I'm not mistaken and also well into the sphere of Russian influance.  What Russia had done is what America should have done re: Cuba.  The fact that Cuba remains a Communist State a few miles off  the coast of "Capitalist" America, certainly shows corruption or collusion between those that are "in the knows" as Cuban Communism should have been crushed as it is, and has been, a bone of contention ever since.

Russia finally went in and defended what it considers its people and spherical interests to which America should have done re: Cuba. And I'm sure the oil pipeline and resources played a part.

Either way Russia, although I neither agree with their history nor their policies, as I do neither agree with what the elitists have done to England, Europe, America and Israel, was right on this matter.  They were far more justified in their march on Georgia than we in the USA were with Iraq or Afghanistan, especially Canada who has no interests in either aside from curbing the numbers of potential Canadian Mohammedan Terrorist immigrants.... 

In my opinion, America should not have gone into Iraq or Afghanistan but Saudi Arabia itself. 

There is a fabulous article I published on here about the PetroDollar and the power struggle to keep this oil based currency from shifting to the "Petro-Euro".
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 03, 2008, 02:24:51 PM
Here in America you get all sides of the story the lies the truth and a mixture of both. We have had an open society that allows all view points to be published unlike what existed and may still exist in Russia where only government approved positions are allowed to exist

You mean that in America you mostly get lies and half truths.
On every world’s issue America was wrong.
They were wrong regarding Yugoslavia in the beginning of the 90s and they were also wrong in regard to Saddam Hussein. Only strange people will assume that USA’s actions against Iraq were necessary and that those American accusations towards the Iraqi people are based on the truth.
If you think that the US media provides facts and truths next to their fabricated lies and half truths, than I must unfortunately disappoint you. The USA's media reportations about the world problems are based on lies.

I know that you, friend, support Serbia and that you know that the USA was 100% wrong about Serbia. They are also wrong about Russia. It is a fact that Russia’s peace keepers were attacked by Georgians. You can look this up. Why would you believe only USA media? If you only believe USA media than you will also have hostile intentions towards us Serbs!

My Interests are American and by extension for Americas allies which Israel is one.

Oke but we Serbs do not have American interests.
We are against USA's worlds domination.

America has done some evil things in her history however it has never stooped to the levels that Russia has when dealing with people they think don't fit into the picture.

You can not compare the USA with a great, traditionally, old and real country like Russia.

The American and the European colonization plan included also the biological extermination of the native population of Africa, North-Middle and South America, Australia and New Zealand. How can you compare such a country, whose Masonic founders had almost exterminated half of the earth, with Russia?

A famous German philosopher Karlheinz Deshner exposed these crimes in his book, entitled: ”The Politics of the Roman Popes during the 20 Century”.

I am not lying to you. You can do research about this.

With all the resources Russia has at its disposal it for all purposes is no better than a third world country. The sad fact of the matter is they impose that situation on themselves.

Materialism is not everything.

The Russian Empire, in the beginning of the 20 century, was a great threat and a serious competitor to the West. In order to crush Russia’s expansion, country and economy, the West had launched communism in Russia and Serbia. We have a good economy even being long occupied in the past by communism (Western production).       
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: P J C on October 03, 2008, 04:48:43 PM
Here in America you get all sides of the story the lies the truth and a mixture of both. We have had an open society that allows all view points to be published unlike what existed and may still exist in Russia where only government approved positions are allowed to exist

You mean that in America you mostly get lies and half truths.
On every world’s issue America was wrong.
They were wrong regarding Yugoslavia in the beginning of the 90s and they were also wrong in regard to Saddam Hussein. Only strange people will assume that USA’s actions against Iraq were necessary and that those American accusations towards the Iraqi people are based on the truth.
If you think that the US media provides facts and truths next to their fabricated lies and half truths, than I must unfortunately disappoint you. The USA's media reportations about the world problems are based on lies.

I know that you, friend, support Serbia and that you know that the USA was 100% wrong about Serbia. They are also wrong about Russia. It is a fact that Russia’s peace keepers were attacked by Georgians. You can look this up. Why would you believe only USA media? If you only believe USA media than you will also have hostile intentions towards us Serbs!

My Interests are American and by extension for Americas allies which Israel is one.

Oke but we Serbs do not have American interests.
We are against USA's worlds domination.

America has done some evil things in her history however it has never stooped to the levels that Russia has when dealing with people they think don't fit into the picture.

You can not compare the USA with a great, traditionally, old and real country like Russia.

The American and the European colonization plan included also the biological extermination of the native population of Africa, North-Middle and South America, Australia and New Zealand. How can you compare such a country, whose Masonic founders had almost exterminated half of the earth, with Russia?

A famous German philosopher Karlheinz Deshner exposed these crimes in his book, entitled: ”The Politics of the Roman Popes during the 20 Century”.

I am not lying to you. You can do research about this.

With all the resources Russia has at its disposal it for all purposes is no better than a third world country. The sad fact of the matter is they impose that situation on themselves.

Materialism is not everything.

The Russian Empire, in the beginning of the 20 century, was a great threat and a serious competitor to the West. In order to crush Russia’s expansion, country and economy, the West had launched communism in Russia and Serbia. We have a good economy even being long occupied in the past by communism (Western production).       
Oooh are we not good enough Dal bc we dont live under communist law like puppets?
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: cjd on October 03, 2008, 05:29:43 PM
Here in America you get all sides of the story the lies the truth and a mixture of both. We have had an open society that allows all view points to be published unlike what existed and may still exist in Russia where only government approved positions are allowed to exist

You mean that in America you mostly get lies and half truths.
On every world’s issue America was wrong.
They were wrong regarding Yugoslavia in the beginning of the 90s and they were also wrong in regard to Saddam Hussein. Only strange people will assume that USA’s actions against Iraq were necessary and that those American accusations towards the Iraqi people are based on the truth.
If you think that the US media provides facts and truths next to their fabricated lies and half truths, than I must unfortunately disappoint you. The USA's media reportations about the world problems are based on lies.

I know that you, friend, support Serbia and that you know that the USA was 100% wrong about Serbia. They are also wrong about Russia. It is a fact that Russia’s peace keepers were attacked by Georgians. You can look this up. Why would you believe only USA media? If you only believe USA media than you will also have hostile intentions towards us Serbs!

My Interests are American and by extension for Americas allies which Israel is one.

Oke but we Serbs do not have American interests.
We are against USA's worlds domination.

America has done some evil things in her history however it has never stooped to the levels that Russia has when dealing with people they think don't fit into the picture.

You can not compare the USA with a great, traditionally, old and real country like Russia.

The American and the European colonization plan included also the biological extermination of the native population of Africa, North-Middle and South America, Australia and New Zealand. How can you compare such a country, whose Masonic founders had almost exterminated half of the earth, with Russia?

A famous German philosopher Karlheinz Deshner exposed these crimes in his book, entitled: ”The Politics of the Roman Popes during the 20 Century”.

I am not lying to you. You can do research about this.

With all the resources Russia has at its disposal it for all purposes is no better than a third world country. The sad fact of the matter is they impose that situation on themselves.

Materialism is not everything.

The Russian Empire, in the beginning of the 20 century, was a great threat and a serious competitor to the West. In order to crush Russia’s expansion, country and economy, the West had launched communism in Russia and Serbia. We have a good economy even being long occupied in the past by communism (Western production).       
Listen my friend because you just don't seem to get it. I can not stand Russia when it was under the Soviets or as it is now. They are a backwards nation and people its just that simple. Patton was correct that at the close of WW2 America should have went right into Russia and finished the job. If your country is benefiting from it relationship with Russia all well and fine keep it to yourself. You are becoming annoying with your posts about the glories of Russia and the evils of America where we only get half the news. Your positions and statements on the Catholic church is a joke it reminds me of the old adage what comes first the chicken or the egg. Just to let you know I will be in touch with Chaim and Shlomo because simply put I have had enough of this issue and feel it is a distraction that does not fit into JTF's mission.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Lisa on October 03, 2008, 06:17:53 PM
Dalmacija, please let's not make this another Roman Catholic Church bashing thread.  Nothing good will come out of it.  And we all need to work together.  People  like CJD and the other Catholics here are sympathetic to the Serb cause. 

Also, most of the global moderators and ALL the administrators are proud Americans.  So this is really not the place to go accusing America of committing genocide against indigenous peoples.  Save that for someplace else. 

Since I'll be taking the forum offline in a minute for Shabbat, I want everyone to calm down.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Jasmina on October 04, 2008, 07:54:26 PM
 I am sure Dalmacija understood and will change his attitude!
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 05, 2008, 04:47:33 AM
I only made one mistake and that was with "ProJewChristian"...

Please do not use that to mark me as somebody who is anti- Catholic or who does not know to have a civilized debate.

I said always that the Vatican’s intentions towards Orthodoxy are not on the responsibility of the Catholic people. If I talk about the Vatican, than I always separate it from the normal and regular Catholic people. I know that JTF has really great Catholic people. I have no problem with regular Catholic people, neither with other religious backgrounds or ethnicities.     

I often have serious discussions with you all about all kinds of subjects like religion, politics and history. I always defend my opinions and statements with facts and information. It is not that I am making things up or sharing fantasy with you.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: MarZutra on October 05, 2008, 09:14:29 AM
I only made one mistake and that was with "ProJewChristian"...

Please do not use that to mark me as somebody who is anti- Catholic or who does not know to have a civilized debate.

I said always that the Vatican’s intentions towards Orthodoxy are not on the responsibility of the Catholic people. If I talk about the Vatican, than I always separate it from the normal and regular Catholic people. I know that JTF has really great Catholic people. I have no problem with regular Catholic people, neither with other religious backgrounds or ethnicities.     

I often have serious discussions with you all about all kinds of subjects like religion, politics and history. I always defend my opinions and statements with facts and information. It is not that I am making things up or sharing fantasy with you.
Very true.  The Vatican and to my knowledge, the Society of Jesus is not representative of the majority good Catholic peoples.  They seem to walk to their own tune which Dalmacija has often eluded to which stems from the 1517 Reformation and the period of Catholic revival from the pontificate of Pope Pius IV in 1560 called "The Counter-Reformation" to the close of the Thirty Years' War in 1648.

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Oooh are we not good enough Dal B.C.E. we dont live under communist law like puppets?
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Not yet but it is coming judging by the performance of Ghorge Bush on issues like America-Mexico Border, Illegal Aliens and pushing through the bailout when over 80% of the American people were/are against it, including all the aforementioned.  If I lived in the US, I'd find out which way my Congressman voted and if it was for on the bailout or against the deportation of illegals/closure of the borders, I'd punch him in the teeth.  If charged, on national television I'd say that it is time to take back our country from these corrupt elitists who are [censored] all over the constitution. 

Mark my words, you'd find many other Congressmen and Representatives getting their teeth punched in or lynched in the future. 
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: P J C on October 05, 2008, 09:16:53 AM
Censorship is not a good thing and goes against 1st amendment rights, you don't like when youtube censors videos that show genocide against Serbs do you? Don't be a hypocrite.

You are being very, very disrespect full towards the Serbian nation!
A friend of the Serbs would never say something embarrassing like this.

You compare Americanized programs like “the Simpsons” with documentarians which educate about the genocide against the Serbs?

How can you do something like this?
 
If we do not want Westernized programs in Eastern Europe, what is wrong with that?
There are also no Eastern European influences in the West? Why should we than allow the opposite? Who is being hypocrite? 
Westernized programms and influences propagate femminism, homosexual rights and other activities which are totally wrong.

Everywhere, where you have "Western rights" you have tolerance towards homosexuals and others crimes which are in struggle with the holy Bible.
At least here in America our ggovt doen't have to think for us, and tell us what and what not to watch. Our people are not brainwashed by the likes of our govt. As much you would like it to be, our media is not brainwashing us into supporting America over Russia, but you media is spreadin pro Russian anti american propaganda. Actually, if you ever watched American news, our media loves to bash America evry chance it gets.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: P J C on October 05, 2008, 09:25:40 AM
I only made one mistake and that was with "ProJewChristian"...

Please do not use that to mark me as somebody who is anti- Catholic or who does not know to have a civilized debate.

I said always that the Vatican’s intentions towards Orthodoxy are not on the responsibility of the Catholic people. If I talk about the Vatican, than I always separate it from the normal and regular Catholic people. I know that JTF has really great Catholic people. I have no problem with regular Catholic people, neither with other religious backgrounds or ethnicities.     

I often have serious discussions with you all about all kinds of subjects like religion, politics and history. I always defend my opinions and statements with facts and information. It is not that I am making things up or sharing fantasy with you.
Very true.  The Vatican and to my knowledge, the Society of Jesus is not representative of the majority good Catholic peoples.  They seem to walk to their own tune which Dalmacija has often eluded to which stems from the 1517 Reformation and the period of Catholic revival from the pontificate of Pope Pius IV in 1560 called "The Counter-Reformation" to the close of the Thirty Years' War in 1648.

Oooh are we not good enough Dal B.C.E. we dont live under communist law like puppets?
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Not yet but it is coming judging by the performance of Ghorge Bush on issues like America-Mexico Border, Illegal Aliens and pushing through the bailout when over 80% of the American people were/are against it, including all the aforementioned.  If I lived in the US, I'd find out which way my Congressman voted and if it was for on the bailout or against the deportation of illegals/closure of the borders, I'd punch him in the teeth.  If charged, on national television I'd say that it is time to take back our country from these corrupt elitists who are [censored] all over the constitution. 

Mark my words, you'd find many other Congressmen and Representatives getting their teeth punched in or lynched in the future. 
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Marzurta that is ridiculous, our people in America are up in arms with a Democratic govt. Here in America we will never let Democracy slip into communism. Maybe you forget who fought for their freedom. We are not weak people. If we already have people who want to overthrow our govt now, than there is no way we will let a communist govt take control. Also to slip into Communism, a leader needs to take control of the military. Our troops are very free minded, they will not turn on their people for the govt. You can mark MY words.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: MarZutra on October 05, 2008, 09:39:38 AM
We shall see my friend.  You must know that America is not, and never was a "Democracy" but a Constitutional Republic to which its base was pissed on and undermined for the past 90 years, starting with Woodrow Wilson. 

George W. Bush even calls your Constitution "just a piece of paper" which indicates his, like all of his cohorts, disdain for such a mandate/doctrine. 

You've got Socialism creeping up your behind, and have done so for a very long time.  The question is whether the people will rise and take back their country from these Elitists or let the country decay like Rome...which seems to be the case....
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 05, 2008, 10:24:47 AM
Our people are not brainwashed by the likes of our govt. As much you would like it to be, our media is not brainwashing us into supporting America over Russia, but you media is spreadin pro Russian anti american propaganda.

You claim that your people are not brainwashed? If they are not why are they still supporting the foreign policies of their governments?
That's why the majority of the USA understandes very well the real context of the conflicts which took place at the Balkans, for example?  Believe me over 70% of the Americans still think that Saddam Husseing had for example biological weapons?
That is pure brainwashed behavoir.

but you media is spreadin pro Russian anti american propaganda.

Now it is my media which is fabricating propaganda?
This reminds me to the US's media reportations during the 90s.
Even today we the Serbs are marked as anti-USA,
because we rather want to cooperate with our traditional brothers the Russians, who never carried out genocide against us, and do not wish to follow the Euro Atlantic intergrations.

Can you blame us for being pro Russian...?
We need Russia to survive..

As much you would like it to be, our media is not brainwashing us into supporting America over Russia, .

Of course I do not want it to be like it is.
I want that the USA ends with anti- Serbian propaganda.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: AryehYehudah on October 05, 2008, 10:26:14 AM
We shall see my friend.  You must know that America is not, and never was a "Democracy" but a Constitutional Republic to which its base was pissed on and undermined for the past 90 years, starting with Woodrow Wilson. 

George W. Bush even calls your Constitution "just a piece of paper" which indicates his, like all of his cohorts, disdain for such a mandate/doctrine. 

You've got Socialism creeping up your behind, and have done so for a very long time.  The question is whether the people will rise and take back their country from these Elitists or let the country decay like Rome...which seems to be the case....

Sorry, I have been real busy and not have had time to respond.  I agree with MarZutra in a lot of ways, disagree only on some minor points.  One point I must say is that I do advocate USA going into Iraq, Afghanistan.  To say Sadam Hussein was not a threat is like an example of being in a room with a rattlesnake wrapped around your foot and a cobra is on the other side of the room.  You would want to kill the Rattlesnake first, since it is the current threat, even though not as great of one.  I agree with you MarZutra that we should go into Saudi Arabia.  Since, that is not practical with our liberal nazi government, definately, we should go and wipe Sadam and OSama out.  Sadam Hussein has been a great threat to Israel and its safety and was very vigilant and more hostile in some ways then his Iranian or Saudi neighbors.  This man commited war crime after war crime, using poison gas on villages.  He comitted crimes that no western country, since the time of Nazi Germany, could have comitted.  Of course, Saudi is the skeleton in the closet, with a master plan to Islamacized the world with its oil revenue.  

What we were originally arguing about with the KGB agent, Dalmacija, was his false accusations that USA is murdering innocent Arab women and children in Iraq and Afhganistan.  His claims are totally bogus and typical leftist islamonazi/liberal Russian jargon that we all hear from Barack Hussein supporters.  I am certain that Dalmacija is a Barack Obama supporter by his speech and rhetoric, but he will never admit to it on this site, obviously.    MarZutra, I hope you know that America is doing what it can to establish a democracy and protect the ungrateful citizens of Iraq.  Of course, this is being done so we can have control over oil supplies and have another arab puppet to be attached to our strings.   Yes, this is doomed to fail , as arabs are belligerent, uncivilzed and lack skills in organized and fair governing sytem.  The major goal of most arab nations is dominance and to destroy all those who disagree with their religion and corrupt culture.

Of course, I advocate that we destroy all mosques int he world, wipe Islam off the earth and take control of all islamonazi countries, including Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Middle Beast countries, etc etc.   Let us restore Israel to the lands of the time of King Shlomo and kick the arabs out of the lands they stole.  This is what we must strive to do and pray to Hashem that will be done.  

America may be overrun my liberal scum, but they are bunch of cowards who still depend on the Conservative Right wing Americans for help in time of crisis.  Look at how the pathetic fools (except Barack Hussein) voted to bring the troops to Iraq.  Of course, like all other liberals, they are half hearted and once the war was engaged in depth, they all voted to get out.  I am sad to say this, regardless of your views of USA, it is still the last nation in the world protecting us against Russia and confronting their tyranny.  Yes, now with Barack Hussein coming to power, it seems America may be a red state.  At least, we have a congress who will fight him and not allow him to behave as  a totalarian dictator like Putztin in Russia.   It is true America is being overrun by illegal immigrants and left wing nazi and fascists.  We need to stand up, return our country to its dignified state in the times of Theodore Roosevelt, one of America's greatest modern heroes.   What I think is, America may fall apart, but the soldiers, military and police are generally right-wing.  Obama will never have support from the muscle of this country and the liberal pansies know if push comes to shove that the right-wing will take control.  Right wing Americans are some of the few people left in the world protecting us.  Unfortunately, Israel has been overtaken by an Arab nazi and liberal leftist government who have left it dormant.  My personal opinion is, when nuclear war strikes, the lefties are going to find themselves running back to the border and watching a restoration of a consertivate America, like none other.  It will take the loss of a few cities, to make it happen, but it will happen.  Just think, 100 years ago, USA and Europe was very conservative religious continents, now today, its a wild and g-dless places, being overrun by islamic nazis (and european nazis) and poor immigrants.    America is doomed for now, but I know some nukes on Chicago, New York will sober them up and kick the little girls out of the congress and put real men there.  I think once Tel Aviv goes up in flames, along with its gay pride parades, the right of Israel will solidify there hold.  

P.S. I think these Serbians I see here are typical brainwashed drones of the Russian empire.  Hate who Russia hates, love who Russia loves.   You can be sure if Russia went to war on Israel or even Iran went to war on Israel, what side the Serbs would be on today; forget WWII!
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: AryehYehudah on October 05, 2008, 10:29:42 AM
You claim that your people are not brainwashed? If they are not why are they still supporting the foreign policies of their governments?
That's why the majority of the USA understandes very well the real context of the conflicts which took place at the Balkans, for example?  Believe me over 70% of the Americans still think that Saddam Husseing had for example biological weapons?
That is pure brainwashed behavoir.

WHo's brainwashed?  You!  Sadam Hussein was notorious for his use of chemical weapons and poison gas, which he used illegaly on civilians in Iranian cities and villages, not to mention the Kurds.  He also shot missles into Israel which he claimed had poison warheads on them and freaked many people out.  He also refused UN inspectors and did everything in his power to create turmoil and instill fear into people.  I don't give a crap if he didn't have any bio weapons at the time.  Many experts say he destroyed most of them before the invasion because he started to get scared, but by the time he destroyed his weapons, the plan was already initiated to invade Iraq and wipe him out.   Sorry, Dalmacija, USA nailed your  Russian Ally Sadam..  Your Russian pal, Ahmedinejab is next!  I think this one will be on Israel, if Zonah Livni can ever get out of power. 


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Can you blame us for being pro Russian...?
We need Russia to survive..
I do blame you..  Many people became pro nazi because it was beneficial for their countries at the time.  Many of these countries may have also been alienated by the Western Allies.   I blame you less for running to Russia than the lies you are promoting of Russia's integrity.  How dare you go onto a Jewish site and tell us that Russian Orthodox empire was so kind to us Jews.  Its like me going into a Serbian Orthodox Church and saying how good the ALbanians were to your people.  You people in my opinion are running to a country who will sooner or later do much worse to you than what America has done.  You would be better off now pushing away Russia and going your own way.  But, I am sure if you did, Russia would then turn on you and help arm the ALbanians, who Russia has no animosity too.  Russia has no problem arming Islamonazis to over throw CHristian or Jewish governments.   Your country is dead as far as I am concern, because you put your hope on a Jew-hating, totalarian dictarorship that has only one goal, world dominatino.  Watch as Russian mobsters come to your country and buy up all your estates, businesses and devastate your economy like they are even doing in Montenegro now.  Russia knows what it is doing with its little pawn, name Serbia.  Sooner or later you will be secondclass citizens in your own country, you then probably even start crying for uSA to help you, but nobody will be around.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: DALMACIJA on October 05, 2008, 11:01:05 AM
 Sorry, Dalmacija, USA nailed your  Russian Ally Sadam..  Your Russian pal, Ahmedinejab is next!  I think this one will be on Israel, if Zonah Livni can ever get out of power. 

I am not sure the Saddam was a Russian ally.
I appreciate your understanding, but I do not think that it is necessary for you to apologize.

The USA attacked and invaded Iraq to hung Saddam Hussein. They have only accomplished that.
They needed to destroy one nations only to hang one man?

WHo's brainwashed?  You!  Sadam Hussein was notorious for his use of chemical weapons and poison gas, which he used illegaly on civilians in Iranian cities and villages, not to mention the Kurds.  He also shot missles into Israel which he claimed had poison warheads on them and freaked many people out.  He also refused UN inspectors and did everything in his power to create turmoil and instill fear into people.  I don't give a crap if he didn't have any bio weapons at the time.

I know that Saddam was not that innocent.
But to say that Saddam was connected with, CIA's creation, Alqaida is ridiculous!
He did not had biological weaponry?
Was not that the main occasion for the USA to again attack a sovereign country?

Saddam was USA's ally during the Iran - Iraq war!
The West supplied chemical weaponry to Saddan while he was their ally during the Iran - Iraq war. When Saddam did not want to take orders from the US anymore, he become a victim of US propaganda!

Saddam's connection to the imaginary network of Bill Laden was not proven, neither did they found biological weapons in Iraq. They only invaded Iraq because of oil and its resources.

You see the USA is like always only exploiting other nations, by taking their natural resources away from them! When will USA reject their colonial politic towards the nations who are oppressed by them?

[quote author=AryehYehudah link=topic=26787.msg286522#msg286522  You people in my opinion are running to a country who will sooner or later do much worse to you than what America has done. 
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We were always Russia's allies.
We believe that we are almost totally identical to them.
Do you understand what it mean to be somebodies traditional ally?
We share more than only common politic interests. Its much deeper.
America started almost all the wars after WW2. We are much more afraid of them.

  Watch as Russian mobsters come to your country and buy up all your estates, businesses and devastate your economy like they are even doing in Montenegro now. 


The current pro EU and pro US government of Montenegro had recently declared the Serbs a national minority. Serbs were the natives of Montenegro.
Why are always pro EU governments anti Serbian?

Your country is dead as far as I am concern, because you put your hope on a Jew-hating, totalarian dictarorship that has only one goal, world dominatino.  Watch as Russian mobsters come to your country and buy up all your estates, businesses and devastate your economy like they are even doing in Montenegro now.  Russia knows what it is doing with its little pawn, name Serbia.  Sooner or later you will be secondclass citizens in your own country, you then probably even start crying for uSA to help you, but nobody will be around.

Russia against Serbia?
Nobody will believe this in Serbia.
Title: Re: USA's and immoral cartoons will be forbidden in Russia
Post by: Jasmina on October 05, 2008, 11:35:13 AM
  I will lock this thread! I don't see any outcome of it!