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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Joe Gutfeld on February 21, 2007, 09:32:14 PM
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Our former mayor, Rudy should be president. When he was mayor, he kept the blacks, hispanics and arabs in line. He will have the guts to act when we were attacked like on 9/11. Clinton and Obama won't do it. They are cowards.
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Our former mayor, Rudy should be president. When he was mayor, he kept the blacks, hispanics and arabs in line. He will have the guts to act when we were attacked like on 9/11. Clinton and Obama won't do it. They are cowards.
Rudy is a social liberal.
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He kept everyone in line. Like it or not
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He kept everyone in line. Like it or not
Ok, he's a left-wing police.
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He kept everyone in line. Like it or not
I think Duncan Hunter would make a better president than Rudy.
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I think an Italian should be President but not one that supports fags. I like Giuliani but I think he should drop the fag support and the open borders support.
Yacov, I rarely criticize you but saying 'fag' is just really stupid. The word is homosexual. In fact, the term homosexual has as many negative connotations as the word 'fag', so I don't think much is being lost in the translation.
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Rudy is the best canadite out there. You would rather vote for a Muslim or Clinton? You have to be kidding!!
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Tom Tancredo or Rudy Guiliani, both would be massively better than the drek traitorious Demonrats.
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Whatever happens, i'm just looking forward to saying goodbye to Bush. His shelf-life date expired long ago. I don't even really believe its him running the country, more like Dick Cheney whispering into his ear every 5 seconds.
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Whatever happens, i'm just looking forward to saying goodbye to Bush. His shelf-life date expired long ago. I don't even really believe its him running the country, more like Dick Cheney whispering into his ear every 5 seconds.
Perhaps then Cheney should whisper in complete sentences.
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hahaha!! ;D
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People like Duncan Hunter and Tom Tancredo have good ideas, but they are not administrators like Rudy Guiliani. He is a proven leader. Sure, many of his "social" positions are distasteful, and his personal life was rocky there for a while, but as I sit here now, I like him. That certainly can change, but this early in the game, I would take him.
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Rudy should be president.
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Rudy is probably the republican candidate who has the greatest chance. He can get republicans and also attract some democrats (because of some of his liberal views). And together he can have the most number of voters. I think the other republicans and democrats will attract voters to vote along party lines (democrats will vote for Clinton and Obama, and republicans will vote for either Tancredo, McCain etc) But Giulliani would bring voters from both parties together (not all) but more than the other candidates. So he has a better chance of winning the election than the other republican candidates.
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YOU MEAN RUDY RAY MOORE?
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I mean America's mayor Rudy Gulliani wise guy
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lol
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i agree with you. rudy should be president because he would make a better president than all the others.
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I have to agree with Joe for now. I am agaist Rudy's support for sodomy, but he has the best track record of any politician I can think about. Hopefully he will clean up our country like he did to New York City.
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Rudy will make a great president.
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I agree. Remember that Rudy is a politician just like all of them. Abortion and sodomy are secondary issues compared to the survival of Israel and the US. Rudy does have a good track record and is in a league above all the other candidates. He took a trip to Israel to denounce muslim terrorism and announce that Israel should be given the right to defend itself. He kicked Yassir Arafart out of Gracy Mansion. He enforced quality of life crimes in New York and boosted the cities economy. He didn't raise our taxes too much when he was in office(yes I used to live in NYC). He has my vote.
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As Mayor of this city he did do a good job when it came to cleaning up crime in the city. After Dinkens left the city was truely a Zimbabwe like jungle. However, he supports an open border policy. New York alone is swarming with these third world sponges as it is let alone the rest of the country. He supports same sex marriage. Same sex marriage goes against everything that marriage stands for. Marriage is only between a man and a woman that love each other that want to build that special bond through marriage. He supports gun control. Well he of all people should know if you take a good look at NYC who are the ones holding the guns right now the criminal cop killing gangbanging thugs that sell dope in their own neighborhoods. But if a decent citizen wants to have a fire arm to defend him or herself and their families and property they got to go through all sorts of nonsense. And thats if they are lucky to be permitted. So on a national scale no. Unfortunatly it may come down that he maybe and I hate saying it that he maybe the GOP candidate and the Demodolts may end up with either Thunder thighs Hillary or Bongo Obama and either side none of us win. We do need Hunter's name out there if there is any sort of hope. I hope his name is still on the ballots in NY when the primaries come here.
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He is a piece of filth. An adulterous, cross-dressing, abortion-supporting, socially liberal scumbag. Never again will a papist disgrace the Whitehouse. I am a gentile by the way.
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You are a piece of filth for saying that for America's mayor. He could be my president any time.
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With such a grim outlook of Hillary, Osama, and McCain he is a saint compared to all the others. I don't agree with him on all the issues, but at least he is the only one who has strongly spoken up in support of Israel. Who else would be bold enough to kick Yassir Arafart out of his party after Arafart got a noble piece prize for his destruction of part of Israel. He closed the section 8 house list which was just reopened again this year. I have a feeling that Chaim is going to support him as the lesser of two evils when election time comes, but I feel optimistic about him taking office. I hope that Rudy chooses my former governer, Robert Ehrlich as his running mate.
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Is this thread for real?
Rudy turned NYC into a sanctuary city for illegal aliens.
He is a traitor.
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He is a piece of filth. An adulterous, cross-dressing, abortion-supporting, socially liberal scumbag. Never again will a papist disgrace the Whitehouse. I am a gentile by the way.
:) ....couldn't have said it better myself *thumbs up*
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If Rudy was in charge now, the illeagals will be run out of town.
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That's right
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Sorry Joe...Unfortunately, you're misinformed about Rudy
Rudy stopped the NYC police from enforcing immigration law...That's what is meant by "sanctuary city"
Once an illegal alien makes it to a sanctuary city he knows he can only be apprehended by ICE (Immigrations and customs enforcement)
There are only about 2000 ICE agents dedicated to finding and deporting aliens in the entire United States. To put this in perspective....NYC has about 40,000 policemen
Guiliani supports illegal immigration. He is a traitor.
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Conservatives such as myself are in a real fix with the candidates for the up comming presidential elections. The left on the other hand has everything they might want in the two front runner candidates Hittlery or Osama. This said if Rudy Guiliani were to gain the Republican nomination I would have little choice but to vote for him as president. My main problem with Rudy is his open border and gun control positions. All the other things are bugaboos that are blown out of proportion. A few years back I had the opportunity to chat with a lady of some means who traveled in the same circles the Guiliani people travel in. When she mentioned Rudy I made a remark about him living with the two men. She laughed and said that she wasn't going to get into detail about the the men but Rudy was simply living there temporally and there was nothing more to it than that. Honestly while not the best choice for president Rudy would not be the worse. His management skills are good however his social positions leave quite a bit to be desired. Who knows what the next few months will bring but to be quite honest Rudy may be the best game in town.
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CJD
We CANNOT vote for a pro-open-borders GOP candidate like Guiliani. If we get a president like Rudy that gives amnesty to illegal aliens then they will vote the conservatives out of office all over the country. Example: California used to be a solidly Republican state. Reagan came from California. In 1986 amnesty was given to 6 million illegal aliens and the state turned liberal Democrat. Currently, there is no hope for California to ever be Conservative Republican again.
The exact same disaster that happened in California will happen to the entire country if the GOP doesn't support an immigration enforcement candidate in 2008.
Currently, there are 3 anti-illegal immigration candidates. They are Duncan Hunter of San Diego...Tom Tancredo of Colorado....and Ron Paul of Texas.
Duncan Hunter has voted for massive government spending in the past (like the prescription drug benefit. He is conservative on the immigration issue and on defense, but he is guilty of spending like a liberal.
Ron Paul of Texas has excellent fiscal conservative credentials...BUT...he is old (70s) and he is socially liberal (libertarian)
Tom Tancredo is clearly the best candidate of the bunch. Tancredo is a fiscal and social conservative. He founded the Immigration Reform Caucus in Congress. I happen to know that he is a very devout Christian, solidly pro-Israel and anti-muslim.
Tancredo MUST be the GOP candidate in 2008.
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Do not assume that there will only be 2 major parties in the 2008 election.
There is a distinct possibility that Hillary Clinton will start her own 3rd party that merges "moderate" Democrats with "moderate" Republicans.
Check out this site: www.unity08.com
The plans are already in the works to build a serious 3rd party for 2008. There is precedent for this...KADIMA in Israel merged Labour with Likud....The time is right for a similar thing to happen in America between the Republicans and Democrats.
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Din Rodef, what you say is true about Rudy and hopefully one of the more Conservative candidates will generate enough interest before the primaries. Its funny you mentioned Hittlery starting her own more moderate party. I was thinking that the other day when out of the blue she came out with the statement about leaving troops in Iraq under certain conditions for as long as needed. Very strange for her to be talking like that. This may change the dynamics of the election considerably and with something big like that a lot of different things are possible. Its to soon to tell but I hope and pray we get the right man for the job in 08
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Everybody needs to remember one thing about the federal government: it's not just the President, but the Congress you elect along with it. We need solid right wing conservatives to MAKE the laws. I would like Guiliani to be president, but we need people to keep him in check.
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I was thinking that the other day when out of the blue she came out with the statement about leaving troops in Iraq under certain conditions for as long as needed. Very strange for her to be talking like that. This may change the dynamics of the election considerably and with something big like that a lot of different things are possible.
wow - you are very perceptive
You notice the little things that Hillary does...the tiny triangulations...the itty bitty moves towards a "moderate" center position.
The rise of Obama Hussein's candidacy only makes a 3rd party more likely. He is extremely popular with the radical left. It is the radical left that decides what candidates will win the Democratic primaries. If Hillary Clinton can't beat Obama in the Democratic primaries then she would be forced to run for president as a 3rd party candidate.
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Everybody needs to remember one thing about the federal government: it's not just the President, but the Congress you elect along with it. We need solid right wing conservatives to MAKE the laws. I would like Guiliani to be president, but we need people to keep him in check.
To be honest, I don't think Giuliani will ever survive the GOP primaries next year.
He'd have better luck running for VP on a new 3rd party ticket with Hillary Clinton.
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He kept everyone in line. Like it or not
Ok, he's a left-wing police.
Not to defend Rudy, but I don't think he'd be dumb enough to try and pass a federal gay marriage or gay unions bill. He seems ambiguous about the illegal alien issue. Supposedly before he was a mayor, he was against sanctuary laws but then when he became mayor, he was for those laws.
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Do not assume that there will only be 2 major parties in the 2008 election.
There is a distinct possibility that Hillary Clinton will start her own 3rd party that merges "moderate" Democrats with "moderate" Republicans.
Check out this site: www.unity08.com
The plans are already in the works to build a serious 3rd party for 2008. There is precedent for this...KADIMA in Israel merged Labour with Likud....The time is right for a similar thing to happen in America between the Republicans and Democrats.
She's forming a backup plan in case she loses the Democratic nomination to Barak?
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CJD
We CANNOT vote for a pro-open-borders GOP candidate like Guiliani. If we get a president like Rudy that gives amnesty to illegal aliens then they will vote the conservatives out of office all over the country. Example: California used to be a solidly Republican state. Reagan came from California. In 1986 amnesty was given to 6 million illegal aliens and the state turned liberal Democrat. Currently, there is no hope for California to ever be Conservative Republican again.
The exact same disaster that happened in California will happen to the entire country if the GOP doesn't support an immigration enforcement candidate in 2008.
Currently, there are 3 anti-illegal immigration candidates. They are Duncan Hunter of San Diego...Tom Tancredo of Colorado....and Ron Paul of Texas.
Duncan Hunter has voted for massive government spending in the past (like the prescription drug benefit. He is conservative on the immigration issue and on defense, but he is guilty of spending like a liberal.
Ron Paul of Texas has excellent fiscal conservative credentials...BUT...he is old (70s) and he is socially liberal (libertarian)
Tom Tancredo is clearly the best candidate of the bunch. Tancredo is a fiscal and social conservative. He founded the Immigration Reform Caucus in Congress. I happen to know that he is a very devout Christian, solidly pro-Israel and anti-muslim.
Tancredo MUST be the GOP candidate in 2008.
Why did Reagan enforce amnesty? Was it foolish compromise he made with the Democrat controlled congress because he thought it would enhance his legacy?
What these presidents don't realize is that they shouldn't attempt foolish policies just because they think their legacy would be improved. Bill Clinton, could pay off a historian to write a book that praises his presidency and then there will be some people who will think he was a great president. So presidents could try and get themselves a positive legacy buy just buying off someone to write a positive book about them. I wouldn't be surprised if Clinton hasn't already done this.
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She's forming a backup plan in case she loses the Democratic nomination to Barak?
Check out this site: www.unity08.com
The same money and people that are supporting Obama are also supporting UNITY08
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Why did Reagan enforce amnesty? Was it foolish compromise he made with the Democrat controlled congress because he thought it would enhance his legacy?
Reagan was not a perfect president. He was very good at understanding the Soviet Union...but unfortunately he didn't understand other things (like the Islamic threat or the Hispanic demographic threat)
From what I understand, Reagan agreed to an amnesty believing that Congress would start enforcing immigration law so the problem would never happen again.
I've heard radio interviews with men who were close to Reagan ...and they all seem to agree the Reagan seriously regretted the amnesty.
Reagan grew up in a different time and era in America. I truly don't believe that he understood the threat that non-white immigration (legal and illegal) posed to the US.
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Rudy is good, he cleaned up New York City when he was Mayor. He inherited a wrecked city, a cesspool from that moronic Dinkins, Guliani cleared the city of the dregs that were in our streets. He cleaned up Times Square, Times Square used to be the gutter, it was awash in prostitutes, sex shops, drug dealers and other crimminals; Today, thanks to Rudy Guliani, Times Square is the ornament of the city and you can feel safe taking your family there for dinner and a wonderful time. If Guliani does half for America what he did for New York city, he'll enter the history books as one of the greatest Presidents of all time.
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Why did Reagan enforce amnesty? Was it foolish compromise he made with the Democrat controlled congress because he thought it would enhance his legacy?
Reagan was not a perfect president. He was very good at understanding the Soviet Union...but unfortunately he didn't understand other things (like the Islamic threat or the Hispanic demographic threat)
From what I understand, Reagan agreed to an amnesty believing that Congress would start enforcing immigration law so the problem would never happen again.
I've heard radio interviews with men who were close to Reagan ...and they all seem to agree the Reagan seriously regretted the amnesty.
Reagan grew up in a different time and era in America. I truly don't believe that he understood the threat that non-white immigration (legal and illegal) posed to the US.
Reagan was often forced to compromise on issues he wanted to get done since he had to deal with a democrat majority in both house and senate. Reagan often had to do things that he would under different conditions never do in order to get other more pressing things passed in congress. I think in Reagan's wildest dreams did he ever think that the illegal immigration problem would get to the proportion we have today. He had a bad experience at the hands of the Muslims with the attack on the marine barracks in Bayreuth however there again he could not comprehend that people like that could ever threathen the territories of the United States in any real way. The one thing I liked about Ronald Reagan is that he believed in America and the American people if he had his way I think he would have done a few things differently. All said and done he did a good job with what he had to work with.
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Yeah CJD..I think you're right
I do like Reagan...he wasn't perfect but he must be understood according to the times that he lived in.
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Rudy is good, he cleaned up New York City when he was Mayor. He inherited a wrecked city, a cesspool from that moronic Dinkins, Guliani cleared the city of the dregs that were in our streets. He cleaned up Times Square, Times Square used to be the gutter, it was awash in prostitutes, sex shops, drug dealers and other crimminals; Today, thanks to Rudy Guliani, Times Square is the ornament of the city and you can feel safe taking your family there for dinner and a wonderful time. If Guliani does half for America what he did for New York city, he'll enter the history books as one of the greatest Presidents of all time.
Hahahaha
Giuliani kicked the prostitutes, sex shops and drug dealers out of NY just to make more room for the Mexican/ Muslims/Chinese takeover
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He did that to clean up the city. Not for any group to take over.
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He did that to clean up the city. Not for any group to take over.
Rudy's first term as Mayor was a great success because he was a law and order man. When he came into power after Dinkins he was just what the city needed. The big problem with Rudy is that he is a Liberal on all other issues other than the law. In as much as he was tough on crime and he had good organizational skills in running the cities agencies his liberal bent got him into trouble in social issues. A Rudy Giuliani presidency would be the same scenario. Honestly he'd make a better Democrat than Republican.
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an added plus is the way rudy was abled to do what he could to help the city heal from the attacks on 9/11. in my opinion, rudy did heck of a lot better job of making sure his constituents were kept as safe as possible during and after the attacks just by communicating to the city and its citizens as quickly as possible just by going on tv and the radio. i could still see and remember images of rudy walking up church street and tell new yorkers to get as far away as possible from lower manhattan via ny1 news. he also stepped up by locking down the city as early as 10:00am on 9/11. rudy took action. all bozo bush did was sit in a classroom of kids like a dumb bump on log. rudy showed that he is smarter than bush, as well as quicker, just by getting on tv and radio with regular and timely reports of what was going on and calming down the people of new york city. rudy showed more concern for his fellow new yorkers than bush showed to entire country. thank you, rudy guiliani.