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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: briann on November 05, 2008, 10:28:40 AM
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I am scared that American whites are googling 'white pride' right now.. as a reaction to the horror of Obama... and will be seduced by the stupidity of StørmFrønt.
We need to counter this somehow.... and come up with an alternative.
Any ideas?
Any chance of making this sticky??? (I rarely ask this)
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Just as an idea..... this site needs to go BACK to being against black nationalism and black racism.... more similar to the way it used to be.
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I'd rather see more religious content in general. Young people who are exposed to religion will not seek out Stromfront. White supremacist groups can only become successful in a spiritual and mental vacuum. We need to make sure that the young people do not have voids in their lives.
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I'd rather see more religious content in general. Young people who are exposed to religion will not seek out Stromfront. White supremacist groups can only become successful in a spiritual and mental vacuum. We need to make sure that the young people do not have voids in their lives.
Thats fine.... BUT!!!!!! I'm talking about White Gentiles who are ANGRY at this very moment. Many are searching for something as anti-obama as possible, I want to keep them CLEAR of antisemitism.... somehow.
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I'd rather see more religious content in general. Young people who are exposed to religion will not seek out Stromfront. White supremacist groups can only become successful in a spiritual and mental vacuum. We need to make sure that the young people do not have voids in their lives.
Thats fine.... BUT!!!!!! I'm talking about White Gentiles who are ANGRY at this very moment. Many are searching for something as anti-obama as possible, I want to keep them CLEAR of antisemitism.... somehow.
I have lurked on SF for a long time, and I have to tell you, last night and this morning the site said that the only way to read anything was to join and log in....guests couldn't access it because they were being so overloaded with people coming to the site.
I NEVER had that happen before in the 2 years I've lurked there.
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Briann you are 1000% right...we need to attack StørmFrønt and post videos against StørmFrønt...we will get more members here and they will no the difference between racism and non-racism.
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I'd rather see more religious content in general. Young people who are exposed to religion will not seek out Stromfront. White supremacist groups can only become successful in a spiritual and mental vacuum. We need to make sure that the young people do not have voids in their lives.
Thats fine.... BUT!!!!!! I'm talking about White Gentiles who are ANGRY at this very moment. Many are searching for something as anti-obama as possible, I want to keep them CLEAR of antisemitism.... somehow.
I have lourked on SF for a long time, and I have to tell you, last night and this morning the site said that the only way to read anything was to join and log in....guests couldn't access it because they were being so overloaded with people coming to the site.
I NEVER had that happen before in the 2 years I've lurked there.
if you can register their not overloaded because of large traffic it's because they don'nt want lurkers
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on StørmFrønt, they are saying that obama's election is bad for the U.S. because Obama is a tool of israel and the "neocons." these nazi websites like StørmFrønt are primarily anti-jewish, not anti-black.
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on StørmFrønt, they are saying that obama's election is bad for the U.S. because Obama is a tool of israel and the "neocons." these nazi websites like StørmFrønt are primarily anti-jewish, not anti-black.
their right wing anarchists not nazis
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In my opinion... the first thing we must do is CHANGE THE WEBSITE!!!!...
It needs to be more anti-black nationalist. anti-black hate. I think we should bring this up to Shlomo and to Chaim.
It needs to look more revolutionist. (maybe Im just being nostalgic)
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In my opinion... the first thing we must do is CHANGE THE WEBSITE!!!!...
It needs to be more anti-black nationalist. anti-black hate. I think we should bring this up to Shlomo and to Chaim.
It needs to look more revolutionist. (maybe Im just being nostalgic)
sounds interesting
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I don't idenify myself as anti-black. I am against a particular current that is running through black culture. But black culture is not monolithic. In other words, there is no single defining characteristic of black culture. I want us to be a positive movement, that venerates the principles of real Judaism and that embraces righteous Christianity. If our movement becomes a negative based ideology, we will drive people away from us.
As it is, many of the messages on this forum are anti-black, and while I agree with most of these statements, they force people to choose sides. We shouldn't be afraid to speak the truth, but to make our web-page more openly hostile towards black people will backfire on us, I think.
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I don't idenify myself as anti-black. I am against a particular current that is running through black culture. But black culture is not monolithic. In other words, there is no single defining characteristic of black culture. I want us to be a positive movement, that venerates the principles of real Judaism and that embraces righteous Christianity. If our movement becomes a negative based ideology, we will drive people away from us.
As it is, many of the messages on this forum are anti-black, and while I agree with most of these statements, they force people to choose sides. We shouldn't be afraid to speak the truth, but to make our web-page more openly hostile towards black people will backfire on us, I think.
I understand your sentiment... which is why it has to be done somewhat politically correct.... were not going after BLACKS but black nationalism... and yes... black culture... but it needs to be more of a focus... the way it used to be.
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I am scared that American whites are googling 'white pride' right now.. as a reaction to the horror of Obama... and will be seduced by the stupidity of StørmFrønt.
We need to counter this somehow.... and come up with an alternative.
Any ideas?
Any chance of making this sticky??? (I rarely ask this)
one good idea would be to stop saying "those filthy animals", "those dirty schwartzas", "those dirty monkeys" and other racial epithets.
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I am scared that American whites are googling 'white pride' right now.. as a reaction to the horror of Obama... and will be seduced by the stupidity of StørmFrønt.
We need to counter this somehow.... and come up with an alternative.
Any ideas?
Any chance of making this sticky??? (I rarely ask this)
one good idea would be to stop saying "those filthy animals", "those dirty schwartzas", "those dirty monkeys" and other racial epithets.
I think that will have just the opposite effect (Although Ive never used a black pejorative myself). I'm actually suggesting being MORE anti-Black... not less.... or More anti-black culture, More anti-black Nationalism... etc etc.
This thread is not about being more PC... its about making JTF an alternative for people who are angry with Black Culture and Black Nationalism.... an alternative to StørmFrønt.
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Briann, those StørmFrønt people are not JTF material. They would see American flooded with third world hoodlums if they thought it would harmful to the Jews. They're obsessed with Jews and nothing else. Some of them have even said to me that they were voting for Obama because of his stance on the Jews and Israel.
But if you want to go after gentile whites, I would stick with Amren, which has some Jewish members, and The Inverted World, which is not anti-semitic at all.
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In my opinion... the first thing we must do is CHANGE THE WEBSITE!!!!...
It needs to be more anti-black nationalist. anti-black hate. I think we should bring this up to Shlomo and to Chaim.
It needs to look more revolutionist. (maybe Im just being nostalgic)
we should quote Martin Luther King (I have a dream that one day that one will not be judged by the color of his skin but the CONTENT OF HIS CHARACTER)...and you know what? that's what this movement does...and we need to emphasize how much we hate the culture and content of the african-american "character"
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I would think we should avoid StørmFrønt at all costs.
The few minutes I spent there, when driven to visit the site, shook me to my core.
Anyone who can visit that website and find solace to the great evil which has come upon us...is definitely not JTF Material.
I agree with Lisa.
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Briann, those StørmFrønt people are not JTF material. They would see American flooded with third world hoodlums if they thought it would harmful to the Jews. They're obsessed with Jews and nothing else. Some of them have even said to me that they were voting for Obama because of his stance on the Jews and Israel.
But if you want to go after gentile whites, I would stick with Amren, which has some Jewish members, and The Inverted World, which is not anti-semitic at all.
Yes.... Thats my argument.. to keep people AWAY from StørmFrønt. So they never even be aware of that place. Not to go into some sort of alliance with them. I checked out 'Inverted World' and AMREN and they werent what I was looking for.
the idologues who post to StørmFrønt are all a bunch of braindead idiots.. BUT there are visitors who are curious and dissilusioned. TRUST ME... I used to be a self-hating JEW... and I went there too.... I was curious too.... l luckily I figured out what was going on there and left.
ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT I WANT THE YOUTH TO NEVER EVEN GO THERE!!!!! And JTF can help with this... by being an alternative.
I'm basically talking about JTF being exactly the way it USED to be. and NOT trying to be just another conservative jewish forum. This could then be used as a stepping stone to further the causes of Kahanism. Look at the layout and the pictures of the JTF before and look at now. I know people are going to get mad at me for saying this... but the old style WAS MORE EFFECTIVE at going after the kind of members that we already have here.
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I am scared that American whites are googling 'white pride' right now.. as a reaction to the horror of Obama... and will be seduced by the stupidity of StørmFrønt.
We need to counter this somehow.... and come up with an alternative.
Any ideas?
Any chance of making this sticky??? (I rarely ask this)
one good idea would be to stop saying "those filthy animals", "those dirty schwartzas", "those dirty monkeys" and other racial epithets.
I think that will have just the opposite effect (Although Ive never used a black pejorative myself). I'm actually suggesting being MORE anti-Black... not less.... or More anti-black culture, More anti-black Nationalism... etc etc.
This thread is not about being more PC... its about making JTF an alternative for people who are angry with Black Culture and Black Nationalism.... an alternative to StørmFrønt.
using racial epithets is not anti black culture or black nationalism... it's just racist. How is that different at all from StørmFrønt?
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I am scared that American whites are googling 'white pride' right now.. as a reaction to the horror of Obama... and will be seduced by the stupidity of StørmFrønt.
We need to counter this somehow.... and come up with an alternative.
Any ideas?
Any chance of making this sticky??? (I rarely ask this)
one good idea would be to stop saying "those filthy animals", "those dirty schwartzas", "those dirty monkeys" and other racial epithets.
I think that will have just the opposite effect (Although Ive never used a black pejorative myself). I'm actually suggesting being MORE anti-Black... not less.... or More anti-black culture, More anti-black Nationalism... etc etc.
This thread is not about being more PC... its about making JTF an alternative for people who are angry with Black Culture and Black Nationalism.... an alternative to StørmFrønt.
using racial epithets is not anti black culture or black nationalism... it's just racist. How is that different at all from StørmFrønt?
Look around at the posters here. LOOK HOW MANY USE THESE TERMS??? Are you saying they are equivilant to StørmFrønt members????
Almost everybody I know uses racial epithets from time to time.... are they all StørmFrønt members????? I never use them... but I dont have a cow when they use them. If you BAN them from using them... you will lose members HERE too!!!
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I am scared that American whites are googling 'white pride' right now.. as a reaction to the horror of Obama... and will be seduced by the stupidity of StørmFrønt.
We need to counter this somehow.... and come up with an alternative.
Any ideas?
Any chance of making this sticky??? (I rarely ask this)
one good idea would be to stop saying "those filthy animals", "those dirty schwartzas", "those dirty monkeys" and other racial epithets.
I think that will have just the opposite effect (Although Ive never used a black pejorative myself). I'm actually suggesting being MORE anti-Black... not less.... or More anti-black culture, More anti-black Nationalism... etc etc.
This thread is not about being more PC... its about making JTF an alternative for people who are angry with Black Culture and Black Nationalism.... an alternative to StørmFrønt.
using racial epithets is not anti black culture or black nationalism... it's just racist. How is that different at all from StørmFrønt?
... or being called a 'typical white person' by the President Elect of the US of A
I agree with Briann - Haven't we learned anything from years of extreme political correctness?
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I am scared that American whites are googling 'white pride' right now.. as a reaction to the horror of Obama... and will be seduced by the stupidity of StørmFrønt.
We need to counter this somehow.... and come up with an alternative.
Any ideas?
Any chance of making this sticky??? (I rarely ask this)
one good idea would be to stop saying "those filthy animals", "those dirty schwartzas", "those dirty monkeys" and other racial epithets.
I think that will have just the opposite effect (Although Ive never used a black pejorative myself). I'm actually suggesting being MORE anti-Black... not less.... or More anti-black culture, More anti-black Nationalism... etc etc.
This thread is not about being more PC... its about making JTF an alternative for people who are angry with Black Culture and Black Nationalism.... an alternative to StørmFrønt.
using racial epithets is not anti black culture or black nationalism... it's just racist. How is that different at all from StørmFrønt?
Look around at the posters here. LOOK HOW MANY USE THESE TERMS??? Are you saying they are equivilant to StørmFrønt members????
Almost everybody I know uses racial epithets from time to time.... are they all StørmFrønt members????? I never use them... but I dont have a cow when they use them. If you BAN them from using them... you will lose members HERE too!!!
No, I'm saying its stupid to use racial slurs here if you expect for anyone to take this place seriously. It's like using the ad hominem argument in a debate, it only makes you look foolish.
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one good idea would be to stop saying "those filthy animals", "those dirty schwartzas", "those dirty monkeys" and other racial epithets.
Chaim was absolutely correct when he said that most blacks are our enemy. They have hurled epithets at me that would make the average Stormfronter blush. As I have said before, my experience tells me that anti-Semitism is one hundred times more prevalent amongst schvartzes than white gentiles. And perhaps even more disgustingly, hardly anybody ever says a word about it.
So after years of being on the receiving end of completely unwarranted abuse, including being threatened to have a Pit Bull unleashed upon me because the dog allegedly hated people who wear "beanies," I will always refer to blacks as schvartzes.
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No, I'm saying its stupid to use racial slurs here if you expect for anyone to take this place seriously. It's like using the ad hominem argument in a debate, it only makes you look foolish.
I think that will backfire. If we become P.C. we will quickly lose members. Trust me.
But yes... obviously... when you are in public... arguing using slurs makes you sound like you have no argument.
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No, I'm saying its stupid to use racial slurs here if you expect for anyone to take this place seriously. It's like using the ad hominem argument in a debate, it only makes you look foolish.
I think that will backfire. If we become P.C. we will quickly lose members. Trust me.
But yes... obviously... when you are in public... arguing using slurs makes you sound like you have no argument.
exactly. This forum is on the internet. Anyone can see it.
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No, I'm saying its stupid to use racial slurs here if you expect for anyone to take this place seriously. It's like using the ad hominem argument in a debate, it only makes you look foolish.
I think that will backfire. If we become P.C. we will quickly lose members. Trust me.
But yes... obviously... when you are in public... arguing using slurs makes you sound like you have no argument.
exactly. This forum is on the internet. Anyone can see it.
At the cost of losing members????? What??? This is absurd!!!
Why dont we just make this a completely 'politically correct' forum... so that we can 'look good' for the public.
From here on.... lets only use 'African American' as 'black' makes you look less intelligent when you are arguing.
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It's the new double standard.
If you are black, you can use racial stereotypes and denigrate segments of the population(when you think you are not being caught on tape) and still be elected to the highest office.
If you're white, shut up and get on the back of the line.
Welcome to the new America!
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What is worse, seeing whites go to StørmFrønt or seeing white people become Obama zombies?
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In my opinion... the first thing we must do is CHANGE THE WEBSITE!!!!...
It needs to be more anti-black nationalist. anti-black hate. I think we should bring this up to Shlomo and to Chaim.
It needs to look more revolutionist. (maybe Im just being nostalgic)
Yes, indeed.
Bring back the old JTF!
No more political correctness!!
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In my opinion... the first thing we must do is CHANGE THE WEBSITE!!!!...
It needs to be more anti-black nationalist. anti-black hate. I think we should bring this up to Shlomo and to Chaim.
It needs to look more revolutionist. (maybe Im just being nostalgic)
Yes, indeed.
Bring back the old JTF!
No more political correctness!!
yes indeed
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Just as an idea..... this site needs to go BACK to being more anti-black in appearance.... more similar to the way it used to be.
That's the last thing to do.
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Just as an idea..... this site needs to go BACK to being more anti-black in appearance.... more similar to the way it used to be.
That's the last thing to do.
How do you figure?
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We need a hanging noose as part of the JTF logo, deleted the political correctness.
Mccain tried to be politically correct and look what happened, he lost, he even got booed by his own supporters.
Identify the enemy and be aggressive, stop appeasing them out of fear of what others will think.
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Maybe we should have a poll???
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I like the old JTF but let's be realistic.
What's to keep Obama and his goons from giving the members of a thorough rectal exam the way they did to Joe the Plumber?
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I like the old JTF but let's be realistic.
What's to keep Obama and his goons from giving the members of a thorough rectal exam the way they did to Joe the Plumber?
BRING IT ON!!!
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I like the old JTF but let's be realistic.
What's to keep Obama and his goons from giving the members of a thorough rectal exam the way they did to Joe the Plumber?
BRING IT ON!!!
I would love that!
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We need a hanging noose as part of the JTF logo, deleted the political correctness.
Mccain tried to be politically correct and look what happened, he lost, he even got booed by his own supporters.
He did?
I didn't get to watch his concession speech, but I heard it was the most pathetic, nauseating, groveling pile of garbage ever uttered by a career politician. Basically a long-winded apology for slavery. But I didn't hear he was booed by his supporters.
I am not one to quickly embrace conspiracy theories, but I'm beginning to seriously wonder if the outcome of this election wasn't already decided months ago, like a professional wrestling match. McCain, arguably the most unelectable Republican candidate, dead last in the polls with almost no money, came out of nowhere to win the nomination, then seemed to do everything in his power not to win the presidency. He had a whole arsenal at his disposal that he never even used (he didn't even mention Jeremiah Wright during the debates).
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I am against anything that generalizes all blacks as criminals and monsters. Many of them are yes but if we go around making racial attacks its going to fly back into our faces.
StørmFrønt is nothing but a satanic nazi website. Its posters there should be put to death. We should be nothing like them.
Its not about race, its culture. Plenty of white people are acting this way as well.
I say we should be anti hip-hop culture, anti rap music, anti racist and anti fascist not anti black. We should expose ignorance and wickedness in all races, although yes we should emphasize more on interacial crime I lived in White neighborhoods in the North East and they were Evil people. I used to lived close to black neighborhoods in North Omaha, and in diverse neighborhoods in Lynwood and Los Angles. There were blacks who were godly and righteous and there were those who were thugs and who were racists and who did drugs.
I think I should point out that Murphy and I witnesses a whole lot of racism against Mexicans by the Schwartzas. We even saw two of them beat up a Mexican near Skid Row calling them racist horrible names.
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OK.. I made a poll about the JTF website.
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strmfront- did NOTHING- get it?? ZERO. If you join those IDIOTS, than YOU LOVE HUSSEIN obama, END of STORY.
They were TOO BUSY worrying about MURDERING Jews to give a damn about America.
THEY ARE TO BLAME. TOTALLY.
STUPID MONGREL HORDES
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strmfront- did NOTHING- get it?? ZERO. If you join those IDIOTS, than YOU LOVE HUSSEIN obama, END of STORY.
They were TOO BUSY worrying about MURDERING Jews to give a damn about America.
THEY ARE TO BLAME. TOTALLY.
STUPID MONGREL HORDES
Yes... we all agree on that.... Im more concerned about how BEST to keep people away from that cess pool. Im telling you... this is the time when their membership will rise. I dont want to see that happen... I dont want to ignore it.
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strmfront- did NOTHING- get it?? ZERO. If you join those IDIOTS, than YOU LOVE HUSSEIN obama, END of STORY.
They were TOO BUSY worrying about MURDERING Jews to give a damn about America.
THEY ARE TO BLAME. TOTALLY.
STUPID MONGREL HORDES
You're correct. For them, it was either a Black Marxist that will be an enemy to the Jews, or White Christian Zionists that will support the Jews. What a quandary for these neo-Nazis. :laugh: I know David Duke recommended voting for neither Obama nor McCain.
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strmfront- did NOTHING- get it?? ZERO. If you join those IDIOTS, than YOU LOVE HUSSEIN obama, END of STORY.
They were TOO BUSY worrying about MURDERING Jews to give a damn about America.
THEY ARE TO BLAME. TOTALLY.
STUPID MONGREL HORDES
You're correct. For them, it was either a Black Marxist that will be an enemy to the Jews, or White Christian Zionists that will support the Jews. What a quandy for these neo-Nazis. :laugh: I know David Duke recommended voting for neither Obama nor McCain.
They all voted for Chuck Baldwin.
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strmfront- did NOTHING- get it?? ZERO. If you join those IDIOTS, than YOU LOVE HUSSEIN obama, END of STORY.
They were TOO BUSY worrying about MURDERING Jews to give a damn about America.
THEY ARE TO BLAME. TOTALLY.
STUPID MONGREL HORDES
You're correct. For them, it was either a Black Marxist that will be an enemy to the Jews, or White Christian Zionists that will support the Jews. What a quandy for these neo-Nazis. :laugh: I know David Duke recommended voting for neither Obama nor McCain.
They all voted for Chuck Baldwin.
They probably wrote in their hero Ron Paul
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We don't have to use racial epithets to make a case against them. Each and every thing that certain black people do can be described without resorting to personal insults. That way we cannot be labelled as racist and we don't have to resort to political correctness. I can't think of a circumstance when calling someone a "primitive schwartze" would be more effective than attacking the behaviour itself.
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We need a hanging noose as part of the JTF logo, deleted the political correctness.
Mccain tried to be politically correct and look what happened, he lost, he even got booed by his own supporters.
He did?
I didn't get to watch his concession speech, but I heard it was the most pathetic, nauseating, groveling pile of garbage ever uttered by a career politician. Basically a long-winded apology for slavery. But I didn't hear he was booed by his supporters.
I am not one to quickly embrace conspiracy theories, but I'm beginning to seriously wonder if the outcome of this election wasn't already decided months ago, like a professional wrestling match. McCain, arguably the most unelectable Republican candidate, dead last in the polls with almost no money, came out of nowhere to win the nomination, then seemed to do everything in his power not to win the presidency. He had a whole arsenal at his disposal that he never even used (he didn't even mention Jeremiah Wright during the debates).
I agree with you oh so totally! I think this whole thing was a plot to get Obama in there! How else did McCain concede so quickly and easily, and how was that Brady video about after the election, posted on Nov THIRD?!