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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: VladTheImpaler on November 14, 2009, 11:53:16 PM
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It begins,the erasing of Christianity in Europe.
The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has ordered all crucifixes removed from state schools in Italy. This decision will now be used as a precedent to clear away all Christian symbols in schools and other public offices across Europe.
The ECHR in Strasbourg ruled last week that the presence of crucifixes “violates a child’s right to freedom of religion.”
According to the judgement, the court found that the “compulsory display of crucifixes violated parents’ rights to educate their children as they saw fit and restricted the right of children to believe or not to believe.”
The move was obviously brought as a result of the increasing number of Islamic children in European schools as that group steadily outbreeds indigenous Europeans and colonises the Continent.
Although the ruling was made with specific reference to schools in Italy, the precedent which it has now set can easily be applied throughout the EU.
A “human rights group” called Helsinki Monitor has already formally started proceedings against the Greek government, using the Italian case as a precedent.
It has demanded that Greek courts remove icons of Jesus Christ from above the judge’s bench and that the gospel no longer be used for swearing oaths in the witness box.
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Today in Europe, it's removing Christianity. Tomorrow it will be installing Islam in every facet of life in Europe.
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You just wait. In 50 years, there won't be an Europe anymore. It will be Eurabia. Islam will be the primary religion, Christians will be minorities in their own countries. There will be no morality or decency (even less than now).
The Irony? Europeans will have caused their own self-destruction.
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EuroCommunist Europistan.... :o
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Can't they see that removing Christianity will create a spiritual vacuum which will be filled by something, probably something very sinister (like Islam)?
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Scum.
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And the saga continues......
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You can't leave a vacum
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You just wait. In 50 years, there won't be an Europe anymore. It will be Eurabia. Islam will be the primary religion, Christians will be minorities in their own countries. There will be no morality or decency (even less than now).
The Irony? Europeans will have caused their own self-destruction.
You may be right.
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They seem to be a kind of imploding within themselves.
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Yep,I'm afraid Jesus will be forgotten or even denied just like the holocaust. It's all in the agenda of the NWO.
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This is predicted in Matthew ch. 24: Christians and Jews will be persecuted, and reminders of God, obliterated. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. This will further arouse God's wrath, since he is the creator and blessed man with power and resources.
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Europeans are dhimmis in their own land.
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Yep,I'm afraid Jesus will be forgotten or even denied just like the holocaust. It's all in the agenda of the NWO.
Apparently, there is going to be a lot of deception about Jesus' second coming. People saying they are one of the dead prophets or even Christ! We are told not to believe any of these reports. Because His coming will be a very public event! For as lightning comes from the east to the west, covering the entire sky; This is what it is going to be like when Jesus comes. No matter where you are on earth, the lightning will cover the sky announcing His coming.
So, if someone says Jesus has already come, you will know that it is not true! When Jesus comes back, everyone will see it over the whole earth.
Behold, He is coming with clouds, and every eye will see Him, even they who pierced Him. And all the tribes of the earth will mourn because of Him. Even so, Amen. Revelation 1:7.
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You just wait. In 50 years, there won't be an Europe anymore. It will be Eurabia. Islam will be the primary religion, Christians will be minorities in their own countries. There will be no morality or decency (even less than now).
The Irony? Europeans will have caused their own self-destruction.
I don't think we have 50 years not at the rate we're going! We must keep our eyes on Israel. Whoever signs of a seven-year peace treaty with Israel marks the beginning of this unparalleled time of Tribulation. Christians think that the Tribulation will begin immediately after the Rapture but this is not true. The Bible makes it clear that the signing of this peace contract is what initiates the seven-year countdown (Daniel 9:27).
This seven-year peace treaty with Israel will be signed by the Antichrist. The world will be thrilled believing that peace has finally arrived but it's a false peace. The peace contract will be broken halfway through the Tribulation period which will usher in the worst horrors of the seven years.
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We are living a nightmare and I just wanna wake up! :'(
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I don't think we have 50 years not at the rate we're going! We must keep our eyes on Israel. Whoever signs of a seven-year peace treaty with Israel marks the beginning of this unparalleled time of Tribulation. Christians think that the Tribulation will begin immediately after the Rapture but this is not true. The Bible makes it clear that the signing of this peace contract is what initiates the seven-year countdown (Daniel 9:27).
This seven-year peace treaty with Israel will be signed by the Antichrist. The world will be thrilled believing that peace has finally arrived but it's a false peace. The peace contract will be broken halfway through the Tribulation period which will usher in the worst horrors of the seven years.
Pennyjangle, please don't use Jewish scripture to promote Christian doctrines about the end times and the Antichrist on here. That is a missionary tactic. This passage is talking about the pact that the evil Greek ruler Antiochus Epiphanes made with the Jewish people which he then broke when he set up an idol in the Temple, slaughtered a pig on the altar and basically outlawed Judaism resulting in the persecutions and deaths of many Jews.
This is not what happened in the Book of Daniel in the Holy Bible. It's very long but you can read about it on Wikipedia or search the internet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Daniel
Israel is mentioned alot in the Holy Bible and you can see WHY the Christians and Jews should be united against all evil. I would never in a million years try to proselytize to convert anyone here and I'm sure no one else would want to do this that has joined this great forum.
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We are living a nightmare and I just wanna wake up! :'(
Unfortunately we cannot wake up.
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No matter what happens, we must remember that G-d will win in the end....the G-d of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. The only one and TRUE G-d. All the false gods, will not stand. We have to keep our faith. WE must keep lighting a candle, and not curse the darkness, cuz that is what they want.
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The link you gave has a part about Antiochus that reiterates what I just said. If you or anyone do not want to proselytize or convert anyone then great--do not take Hebrew Scripture out of context to promote Christian doctrine--that is a missionary tactic that is not allowed. Pennyjangle has had a topic removed by CHRISTIANS before for flagrant missionizing. We do not go into doctrinal issues on this forum.
Are you sure that is what she is doing?
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The link you gave has a part about Antiochus that reiterates what I just said. If you or anyone do not want to proselytize or convert anyone then great--do not take Hebrew Scripture out of context to promote Christian doctrine--that is a missionary tactic that is not allowed. Pennyjangle has had a topic removed by CHRISTIANS before for flagrant missionizing. We do not go into doctrinal issues on this forum.
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The link I gave shows BOTH Books of Daniel, the Jewish AND the Christian and she was quoting the one from the bible. I do NOT believe she was taking Hebrew Scripture out of context. Maybe you should read that last sentence again?
Christians think that the Tribulation will begin immediately after the Rapture but this is not true. The Bible makes it clear that the signing of this peace contract is what initiates the seven-year countdown (Daniel 9:27).
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Thank You arksis! ;D
I was talking about Christians any I only read the Bible. I DO NOT know any HEBREW SCRIPTURES and if I wanted to convert anyone I would post the "Sinners Prayer." The only reason my article was taken down was for a Christian link..........directed to Christians!
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Ok, well I'm just saying it's not allowed anymore. That's all.
What is not allowed? I AM NOT the only Christian speaking about God, Jesus, the Bible, Pope, pagans,dreams,mark of the beast, the anti-Christ, ect. but yet I am ALWAYS the one who is ACCUSED.....................
Everything I have spoke of is in the Bible and I have backed it up with Scriptures. I have prophesied nothing! I have no memory of my dreams therefore I
Do Not have this gift............ Verdict - NOT GUILTY! " BURN HER at the stake for READING the HOLY BIBLE! :-X
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Goodbye Jesus. Welcome Allah.
Islam is on its way in Europe.
But I have many contacts to Anti Islam organizations. Not with us. Islam has no future in our Europe and Germany!
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Ok, well I'm just saying it's not allowed anymore. That's all.
What is not allowed? I AM NOT the only Christian speaking about G-d, Jesus, the Bible, Pope, pagans,dreams,mark of the beast, the anti-Christ, ect. but yet I am ALWAYS the one who is ACCUSED.....................
Everything I have spoke of is in the Bible and I have backed it up with Scriptures. I have prophesied nothing! I have no memory of my dreams therefore I
Do Not have this gift............ Verdict - NOT GUILTY! " BURN HER at the stake for READING the HOLY BIBLE! :-X
LOL @ the stake.
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Welcome to the New World Order, folks. The powers that be are turning the world into their Communist utopia. All of the European countries that are part of the EU have signed away their sovereignty through deceitful treaties and this is the inevitable result. All is going according to their plan. Chiam said it best when he said, "We are begin led like sheep to the slaughter."
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I hope you are right GK but unlike the U.S. Europe is filled with Atheists y'shm
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What is not allowed? I AM NOT the only Christian speaking about G-d, Jesus, the Bible, Pope, pagans,dreams,mark of the beast, the anti-Christ, ect. but yet I am ALWAYS the one who is ACCUSED.....................
Everything I have spoke of is in the Bible and I have backed it up with Scriptures. I have prophesied nothing! I have no memory of my dreams therefore I
Do Not have this gift............ Verdict - NOT GUILTY! " BURN HER at the stake for READING the HOLY BIBLE! :-X
That is not what Dan is saying. He is saying that you cannot use Tanach (OT) passages to try to make Christian points. He is not saying that you cannot speak of Scripture ever again.
I have cited (in context) New Testament passages many times for Christians, for different current-events situations, and never had a problem with it.
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What is not allowed? I AM NOT the only Christian speaking about G-d, Jesus, the Bible, Pope, pagans,dreams,mark of the beast, the anti-Christ, ect. but yet I am ALWAYS the one who is ACCUSED.....................
Everything I have spoke of is in the Bible and I have backed it up with Scriptures. I have prophesied nothing! I have no memory of my dreams therefore I
Do Not have this gift............ Verdict - NOT GUILTY! " BURN HER at the stake for READING the HOLY BIBLE! :-X
That is not what Dan is saying. He is saying that you cannot use Tanach (OT) passages to try to make Christian points. He is not saying that you cannot speak of Scripture ever again.
I have cited (in context) New Testament passages many times for Christians, for different current-events situations, and never had a problem with it.
You can't use Tanach passages HERE? Only New Testament? Is there a reason for this? I am just curious, is all.
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What is not allowed? I AM NOT the only Christian speaking about G-d, Jesus, the Bible, Pope, pagans,dreams,mark of the beast, the anti-Christ, ect. but yet I am ALWAYS the one who is ACCUSED.....................
Everything I have spoke of is in the Bible and I have backed it up with Scriptures. I have prophesied nothing! I have no memory of my dreams therefore I
Do Not have this gift............ Verdict - NOT GUILTY! " BURN HER at the stake for READING the HOLY BIBLE! :-X
That is not what Dan is saying. He is saying that you cannot use Tanach (OT) passages to try to make Christian points. He is not saying that you cannot speak of Scripture ever again.
I have cited (in context) New Testament passages many times for Christians, for different current-events situations, and never had a problem with it.
You can't use Tanach passages HERE? Only New Testament? Is there a reason for this? I am just curious, is all.
You can post Tanach passages as long as you don't use them to support Christian doctrine.
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Yes, you can't use Tanach (OT) passages to advance Christian theology here. This is a Jewish forum first and foremost, and I have no problem with this rule. There are many Christian forums out there that would be the proper venue for this if you desire to do that.
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I have no desire to do that, I was just curious as to WHY, is all. Thanks Bonesfan for answering.