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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on January 17, 2010, 11:51:26 PM
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A classic Dr. Brennan Fan poll. I want to know what you all think. Personally, I don't know what to think (except that this German Nazi [because he certainly isn't a Kahanist] is evil). One small request to everyone--let's please keep this to topic and not go off discussing other former members, the Serb subforum, etc. Please, no more infighting.
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I will come out saying that I don't think he was being evil, just naive... I have had PMs with him and he struck me as immature... But aside from this I don't agree that he is some evil monster...
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Steven is a German kid who loves America, Israel and the Jewish people. The problem is that Steven, like many teenagers is a little confused. He didn't agree with JTF and was brainwashed by similar organizations. He did a despicable thing when he started insulting JTF on his forum. He's not a Nazi and he's not evil, he's just a confused young man. Let's move on and stop mentioning him.
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I've written what I think about the issue on Steven's board. I think it was a terrible thing for him to insult Chaim so deeply and wrongly and say the things he did about JTF and Chaim that he himself knows are not true. I agree however that he is not an anti-Semite and I don't think he's evil. He just has gotten in with the wrong people who have influenced him in a bad way. I hope when he gets older he realizes his mistake. I think the right thing for him to do now would be to apologize and retract his false statements, and then try to build his group on a solid moral foundation. He can't do that as long as he aligns himself with evil people like Shelley Rubin.
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Calling him anything like a nazi is very extreme, it is a very serious label, don't use that term so loosely it takes away it's meaning.
He's just a stupid 18 year old kid, 18 year olds make their decisions based upon emotions and passion instead of reason. He childishly made some massively bad judgment calls, rash conclusions and actions, and it cost him his JTF membership. It is simple as that.
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Was he a Ron Paul supporter?
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Given his youth, and knowing myself at his age, I would go with "demented youth", although I would replace "demented" with "disillusioned youth". Torah teaches us to judge favorably. I don't know Chaim, but I imagine as a Jew he is open-minded about authentic teshuvah. In the absence of teshuvah, ostracization is prudent.
Issac, Jacob/Israel, and Judah, all transgressed, and made amends.
Judah's redemption in front of Joseph is the reason Judaism is called such. I believe the incident is when he put his Father's needs, emotions and life before his own, regardless of whatever cost he may bear; "selling Benjamin into slavery as we did our brother Joseph would surely kill our father, today's consequences are ours to bear not his", or something similar, I am not quoting a direct text. Are we all not lessor than the Patriarchs?
My standards for teshuvah are very high, I imagine Chaim's may be as well.
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I will come out saying that I don't think he was being evil, just naive... I have had PMs with him and he struck me as immature... But aside from this I don't agree that he is some evil monster...
You know he thinks I'm a Muslim Arab and that he tried to go on Jew girls knowing that it's forbbiden and immoral?
I'm sick of this so-called merciful attitude towards Resh'aim.
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Torah teaches us to judge favorably.
For the record, only Jews (Adam in Judaism is not only a person but also a duty, the Jewish people continue Adam's duty and therefore every Jew can be defined as "Adam").
Issac, Jacob/Israel, and Judah, all transgressed, and made amends.
Judah's redemption in front of Joseph is the reason Judaism is called such. I believe the incident is when he put his Father's needs, emotions and life before his own, regardless of whatever cost he may bear; "selling Benjamin into slavery as we did our brother Joseph would surely kill our father, today's consequences are ours to bear not his", or something similar, I am not quoting a direct text. Are we all not lessor than the Patriarchs?
A shameful comparison it is to compare a German Nazi kid and our ancestors.
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Torah teaches us to judge favorably.
For the record, only Jews (Adam in Judaism is not only a person but also a duty, the Jewish people continue Adam's duty and therefore every Jew can be defined as "Adam").
Could you help me understand this better [as far as Jews/Gentiles, or Jews/Goyim go; I am not opposed to challenging my Torah study leader; He has the entire Talmud and other texts in his library].
I was under the impression this young man was a Jew [not that it interfered with my, current, take on Judaism; I may be wrong].
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Torah teaches us to judge favorably.
For the record, only Jews (Adam in Judaism is not only a person but also a duty, the Jewish people continue Adam's duty and therefore every Jew can be defined as "Adam").
Could you help me understand this better [as far as Jews/Gentiles, or Jews/Goyim go; I am not opposed to challenging my Torah study leader; He has the entire Talmud and other texts in his library].
I was under the impression this young man was a Jew [not that it interfered with my, current, take on Judaism; I may be wrong].
Explain what?
and Steven was never Jewish, and never will be.
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The guy's not just young and naive, he's got serious problems. He was posting porn here, just so you know. If he's 18 he should stop spending all of his time in front of computer and get some help.
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I'm still in shock. "The latest and greatest to fall". Guess I'll never be an Honorable Winged Member since I have no ulterior motives.
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He never claimed to be Jewish. I was unaware of him posting outright porn on the forum, but he definitely enjoyed pictures of "girl on girl". Sick animal. >:(
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He never claimed to be Jewish. I was unaware of him posting outright porn on the forum, but he definitely enjoyed pictures of "girl on girl". Sick animal. >:(
As Ron mentioned he was caught going on Jewish dating sites and then told Chaim he wouldn't do it again and he was caught going to the site again. Ron knows what Steven is really like so you must listen to Ron.
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I acknowledged that he was right about those two a long time ago (yesterday, at least, when I learned of this).
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Torah teaches us to judge favorably.
For the record, only Jews (Adam in Judaism is not only a person but also a duty, the Jewish people continue Adam's duty and therefore every Jew can be defined as "Adam").
Could you help me understand this better [as far as Jews/Gentiles, or Jews/Goyim go; I am not opposed to challenging my Torah study leader; He has the entire Talmud and other texts in his library].
I was under the impression this young man was a Jew [not that it interfered with my, current, take on Judaism; I may be wrong].
Explain what?
and Steven was never Jewish, and never will be.
I misunderstood, I had thought he was a Jew, I was wrong. By the name, "German Kahanist", I thought he was a Jewish Kahanist living in Germany. - To me, not understanding the situation, I thought he was pretty cool for being a Jew with chutzpah for living in Germany of ALL places. - Perhaps I give people too much credit right off the bat.
I am asking for Talmud on saving non-Jewish lives on Shabbat, and for more information about the Adam/Judaism concepts.
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If I walk past a non-Jewish man, say a righteous Gentile JTF member, who is choking on food, can I give him the Heimlich maneuver on Shabbat?
EDIT: I think I am so tired I put two posts into one... I cannot tell... too sleepy, time for bed!
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There should be an option: "I don't know."
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Just and young guy who liked Rubins site because it had more photos
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Just and young guy who liked Rubins site because it had more photos
Who wanted to date Jewish girls.
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I voted for the fourth option. What kind of "Kahanist" goes around the internet calling himself "George W. Bush the hero?"
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I voted for the fourth option. What kind of "Kahanist" goes around the internet calling himself "George W. Bush the hero?"
Any non-Jew that wants to date a Jew and knows it's wrong is very evil.
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Bryan I think they got the Jew girls part
Dr.Brennan Fan add a "thinks a holy title like 'JDL' and a lame addition like 'Germany' turns the blondie guy who gets raped daily by Muslims into something" option
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There should be an option: "I don't know."
Exactly. I wouldn't know either and personally I don't care.
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I am watching this guy on his new Forum too and I want to get it closed! I am glad that an Admin has banned him. It seems he is a totally freak and megalomaniac.
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Bryan I think they got the Jew girls part
Dr.Brennan Fan add a "thinks a holy title like 'JDL' and a lame addition like 'Germany' turns the blondie guy who gets raped daily by Muslims into something" option
Well no one seems as shocked or angry by it. But ok Ron you seem to be right with things like this so i'll say no more of it. :-X
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Bryan I think they got the Jew girls part
Dr.Brennan Fan add a "thinks a holy title like 'JDL' and a lame addition like 'Germany' turns the blondie guy who gets raped daily by Muslims into something" option
Well no one seems as shocked or angry by it. But ok Ron you seem to be right with things like this so i'll say no more of it.
by what? the title of his splinter "forum"?
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If I walk past a non-Jewish man, say a righteous Gentile JTF member, who is choking on food, can I give him the Heimlich maneuver on Shabbat?
If you don't help and purposely walk past me, and someone else gives me the Heimlich maneuver and saves my life and I catch you, you'll be the one needing it.
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When someone knowingly backstabs his friends for no reason, is that evil?
When someone knowingly spreads smears and lies against someone, is that evil?
On his so-called "forum", Steven Weigang writes under many different names. He has "members" who support him. The only problem is that these members do not exist. Most of them are Steven Weigang himself using different names. His "forum" and his "organization" are a farce and a joke just like Shelly Rubin's non-existent "organization".
Steven Weigang's real members are almost all JTFers. Because we are the only Kahanist movement with a large number of real members.
The same thing happened 25 years ago when I led the campaign to liberate over a million Soviet Jews. I had popular radio programs in New York and Florida which attracted many members to our organization. Irv Rubin, on the other hand, had only a handful of members in his Los Angeles chapter. Instead of working with me (I could have taught him how to build a bigger movement), Rubin was insanely jealous and obsessively did everything possible to try to undermine our organization. When I was arrested and in prison, Rubin gleefully said "What good is Chaim's big movement with many members now that he is going to be in prison for many years? Even though Chaim had the big organization and we were small, we won in the end." What Rubin didn't understand is that our goal was to free Soviet Jewry and not win some silly contest. Rubin didn't understand that I was willing to go to prison to save our brothers and sisters from behind the Iron Curtain.
Peter writes on the so-called "forum" how much he supports Steven Weigang. Really? If Steven could only see what Peter wrote to American Hero, he would be rather surprised. Peter wrote to American Hero that Steven is the only real member of his forum, and he wrote the most vicious things about Steven's personal and sex life. I have those messages from Peter. These guys not only backstab JTF, they also viciously backstab each other.
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Bryan I think they got the Jew girls part
Dr.Brennan Fan add a "thinks a holy title like 'JDL' and a lame addition like 'Germany' turns the blondie guy who gets raped daily by Muslims into something" option
Well no one seems as shocked or angry by it. But ok Ron you seem to be right with things like this so i'll say no more of it.
by what? the title of his splinter "forum"?
If this is another froum you talk about I have no idea because I don't visit other forums.
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These guys not only backstab JTF, they also viciously backstab each other.
And Steven called me a Muzzie
If this is another froum you talk about I have no idea because I don't visit other forums.
Then I'm confused
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These guys not only backstab JTF, they also viciously backstab each other.
And Steven called me a Muzzie
If this is another froum you talk about I have no idea because I don't visit other forums.
Then I'm confused
::) ::) ::) Nvm I'm supposed to be silent here. :-X
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I think you've been drinking too much on Martin Luther King Jr. day
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I think you've been drinking too much on Martin Luther King Jr. day
You can read me like a book. ;D
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Of course his actions were very evil and it's very hurtful that he betrayed both Chaim's friendship, and JTF as a whole. The only thing that I'm on the fence about is whether or not he is capable of changing his ways one day and realizing his mistake or if his heart is hardened already at such a young age. It would be very sad indeed if he was irredeemable.
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Here's what Steven Weigang just wrote on his so-called "forum":
And YES, G-D himself banned Chaim Ben Pesach aka Victor Vancier from G-ds land Israel! Baruch HaShem!
So Steven claims that the self-hating traitors who banned me from Israel are doing G-d's will. I suppose these traitors were also doing G-d's will when they welcomed the Arab Hitler Yasser Arafat and 80,000 Muslim terrorists into Israel.
Of course, the fact that G-d gives us free will and therefore often allows terrible things to happen does not mean that G-d wants us to do these terrible things. G-d wants us to do the right thing, but allows us to do terrible things in order to insure that we continue to have free will.
And Steven says "Baruch Hashem!" ("Thank G-d!") that I was banned.
Steven rejoices over this evil decision and does so in the name of G-d.
This is the same thing that Steven wrote about me before he was banned from JTF, when he was supposedly my "friend".
Using G-d's name to justify evil monstrous acts is a very serious and unforgivable sin.
Now we see why Steven works with the Rubins who called for the murder of the Jewish hero Jonathan Pollard, who said that Rabbi Meir Kahane should "drop dead", who called JDL freedom-fighters "terrorists", and who supported the expulsion of 10,000 Jews from their G-d given homes in Gush Katif and northern Samaria.
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Chaim, look how that scum defames you:
Chaim has no right to criticise the Rubins or the JDL! He insulted fellow Jews and that's really disgusting and shows that JTF is not real Judaism! G-d bless the Rubins and all JDL members and maybe some JTFers and soon ex JTFers.
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I didn't knew he was evil but now I l know. I knew when he signed up with the name "GeorgeWBushtheHero"
something smelled fishy.
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I didn't knew he was evil but now I l know. I knew when he signed up with the name "GeorgeWBushtheHero"
something smelled fishy.
Same here. Something didn't seem right about him. He also wrote "I will die defending any Jew". Then he insults Chaim!
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Listen guys,
We shouldn't get into the mud with Steven et. al. Let their actions speak for themselves. I try not to stick labels to people like 'evil' use derogatories especially in case there is hope they will come to their senses. Obviously what he said and did is very bad ,indeed a backstabbing and libel from his part.
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I am a bit of an outsider here but I will say this. I remember when he first signed up at the splinter forum that no longer exists. This was (I think) prior to him coming here. Some of his posts back then (on the splinter forum) were very suspicious, and I think I even said something at one point to the mods over there about how they should not trust him. There was just something about how he came across, too eager and too obvious.
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One week he told me he was living in the USA, another week he said he was living in Germany.
Then he and Peter where trying to find out where I live, at one point. Peter wanted me to help him find a house to buy....I sent him some links and he kept telling me that they didn't work, so I was like, I can't help you, sorry.
He was fishing for info as to my exact location.
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One week he told me he was living in the USA, another week he said he was living in Germany.
Then he and Peter where trying to find out where I live, at one point. Peter wanted me to help him find a house to buy....I sent him some links and he kept telling me that they didn't work, so I was like, I can't help you, sorry.
He was fishing for info as to my exact location.
He had written on his Facebook that he lived in Simi Valley CA. I bet he's never he been there like he has probably been to the USA.
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If I walk past a non-Jewish man, say a righteous Gentile JTF member, who is choking on food, can I give him the Heimlich maneuver on Shabbat?
If you don't help and purposely walk past me, and someone else gives me the Heimlich maneuver and saves my life and I catch you, you'll be the one needing it.
What law does doing the heimlich maneuvre violate? His question doesn't even make sense.
But your response is pretty funny.
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http://www.zazzle.co.uk/george+w+bush+the+hero+by+steven+weigang+tshirts
i'm sure these are flying off the shelves
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having said everything else, the kid was stupid for putting his full name and picture all over the internet.
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http://www.zazzle.co.uk/george+w+bush+the+hero+by+steven+weigang+tshirts
i'm sure these are flying off the shelves
Is this some sort of practical joke or what ?
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http://www.zazzle.co.uk/george+w+bush+the+hero+by+steven+weigang+tshirts
i'm sure these are flying off the shelves
Is this some sort of practical joke or what ?
nope, thats him trying to sell lame tshirts
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THIS IS SO DEPRESSING! UGH! THE GUY WAS A GOOD MEMBER, FOR (INSERT NAME HERE)'S SAKE! I am still in shock. He's one of the last people I would have thought would turn out to be like this. Well, hopefully he won't become a total jew-hater after all this. Who's the next Honorable Winged Member to fall? bets anyone? ;D
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http://www.zazzle.co.uk/george+w+bush+the+hero+by+steven+weigang+tshirts
i'm sure these are flying off the shelves
Bah. No one would buy his crappy t-shirts. Even if they were on sale.
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Strange that he considers himself a 'Kahanist'. Does he not understand that Chaim is Kahane's only successor?
I do not think he is loyal to the Rubin's.
I think he is a nazi or communist spy.
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What is a "splinter forum?" I have heard Chaim mention this term in his broadcasts before and now it is being used again. Thanks
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I am a bit of an outsider here but I will say this. I remember when he first signed up at the splinter forum that no longer exists. This was (I think) prior to him coming here. Some of his posts back then (on the splinter forum) were very suspicious, and I think I even said something at one point to the mods over there about how they should not trust him. There was just something about how he came across, too eager and too obvious.
Please don't consider yourself an outsider. You've been here for quite some time.
I agree with the last line of your post.
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I've written what I think about the issue on Steven's board. I think it was a terrible thing for him to insult Chaim so deeply and wrongly and say the things he did about JTF and Chaim that he himself knows are not true. I agree however that he is not an anti-Semite and I don't think he's evil. He just has gotten in with the wrong people who have influenced him in a bad way. I hope when he gets older he realizes his mistake. I think the right thing for him to do now would be to apologize and retract his false statements, and then try to build his group on a solid moral foundation. He can't do that as long as he aligns himself with evil people like Shelley Rubin.
This is what goes on in Shelly's backyard and does her and her evil organization choose to protest this?
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The answer is they choose not to. They only choose to protest a few Paleocons that aren't as a big of a threat to the Jewish community as the above for publicity reasons. She is just an opportunist who wants money from rich self hating Jews and Gentiles.
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I am a bit of an outsider here but I will say this. I remember when he first signed up at the splinter forum that no longer exists. This was (I think) prior to him coming here. Some of his posts back then (on the splinter forum) were very suspicious, and I think I even said something at one point to the mods over there about how they should not trust him. There was just something about how he came across, too eager and too obvious.
Please don't consider yourself an outsider. You've been here for quite some time.
I agree with the last line of your post.
I know, and thanks for saying that. I just meant in terms of my stance on most things =\ I guess I probably come off as pretty "liberal" in comparison to most of the posters here. Funny part is I get chastised by friends and family for being too "right wing". Go figure ???
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I discuss this whole situation in my opening remarks on Ask JTF this week.
www.jtf.org/c.mp3
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I am a bit of an outsider here but I will say this. I remember when he first signed up at the splinter forum that no longer exists. This was (I think) prior to him coming here. Some of his posts back then (on the splinter forum) were very suspicious, and I think I even said something at one point to the mods over there about how they should not trust him. There was just something about how he came across, too eager and too obvious.
Please don't consider yourself an outsider. You've been here for quite some time.
I agree with the last line of your post.
I know, and thanks for saying that. I just meant in terms of my stance on most things =\ I guess I probably come off as pretty "liberal" in comparison to most of the posters here. Funny part is I get chastised by friends and family for being too "right wing". Go figure ???
If we all thought exactly the same, it would be a very boring world.
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I am a bit of an outsider here but I will say this. I remember when he first signed up at the splinter forum that no longer exists. This was (I think) prior to him coming here. Some of his posts back then (on the splinter forum) were very suspicious, and I think I even said something at one point to the mods over there about how they should not trust him. There was just something about how he came across, too eager and too obvious.
Please don't consider yourself an outsider. You've been here for quite some time.
I agree with the last line of your post.
I know, and thanks for saying that. I just meant in terms of my stance on most things =\ I guess I probably come off as pretty "liberal" in comparison to most of the posters here. Funny part is I get chastised by friends and family for being too "right wing". Go figure ???
If we all thought exactly the same, it would be a very boring world.
Your right about that Bullcat!
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I think this has gone on long enough. We don't have to give this confused boy any more attention. If I was mod, I would lock this.
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yes, good idea.
I think this has gone on long enough. We don't have to give this confused boy any more attention. If I was mod, I would lock this.
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I think this has gone on long enough. We don't have to give this confused boy any more attention. If I was mod, I would lock this.
Look
Just like everything else, people will get tired of it.
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I think this has gone on long enough. We don't have to give this confused boy any more attention. If I was mod, I would lock this.
Look
Just like everything else, people will get tired of it.
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I think people are already getting tired of this, which is good. I just wanted to give our people a chance to get this out of their system so that we could move on to more important matters.
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I think people are already getting tired of this, which is good. I just wanted to give our people a chance to get this out of their system so that we could move on to more important matters.
With that said this thread is now locked.