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What was Steven's true identity?

A German Nazi Pedofronter or like-minded WN
5 (14.3%)
A saboteur/provocateur from Guzofsky's (bowel) "movement"
3 (8.6%)
A leftist saboteur/infiltrator (since he called JTF "racist"/"extremist")
4 (11.4%)
Just a very demented young man
14 (40%)
Other
9 (25.7%)

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A classic Dr. Brennan Fan poll. I want to know what you all think. Personally, I don't know what to think (except that this German Nazi [because he certainly isn't a Kahanist] is evil). One small request to everyone--let's please keep this to topic and not go off discussing other former members, the Serb subforum, etc. Please, no more infighting.

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2010, 12:00:49 AM »
I will come out saying that I don't think he was being evil, just naive... I have had PMs with him and he struck me as immature... But aside from this I don't agree that he is some evil monster...

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2010, 12:14:02 AM »
Steven is a German kid who loves America, Israel and the Jewish people. The problem is that Steven, like many teenagers is a little confused. He didn't agree with JTF and was brainwashed by similar organizations. He did a despicable thing when he started insulting JTF on his forum. He's not a Nazi and he's not evil, he's just a confused young man. Let's move on and stop mentioning him.

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2010, 12:23:01 AM »
I've written what I think about the issue on Steven's board. I think it was a terrible thing for him to insult Chaim so deeply and wrongly and say the things he did about JTF and Chaim that he himself knows are not true. I agree however that he is not an anti-Semite and I don't think he's evil. He just has gotten in with the wrong people who have influenced him in a bad way. I hope when he gets older he realizes his mistake. I think the right thing for him to do now would be to apologize and retract his false statements, and then try to build his group on a solid moral foundation. He can't do that as long as he aligns himself with evil people like Shelley Rubin.

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2010, 12:36:46 AM »

Calling him anything like a nazi is very extreme, it is a very serious label, don't use that term so loosely it takes away it's meaning.

He's just a stupid 18 year old kid, 18 year olds make their decisions based upon emotions and passion instead of reason. He childishly made some massively bad judgment calls, rash conclusions and actions, and it cost him his JTF membership. It is simple as that.
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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2010, 01:18:56 AM »
Was he a Ron Paul supporter?

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2010, 02:41:26 AM »
Given his youth, and knowing myself at his age, I would go with "demented youth", although I would replace "demented" with "disillusioned youth".  Torah teaches us to judge favorably.  I don't know Chaim, but I imagine as a Jew he is open-minded about authentic teshuvah.  In the absence of teshuvah, ostracization is prudent.

Issac, Jacob/Israel, and Judah, all transgressed, and made amends.

Judah's redemption in front of Joseph is the reason Judaism is called such.  I  believe the incident is when he put his Father's needs, emotions and life before his own, regardless of whatever cost he may bear;  "selling Benjamin into slavery as we did our brother Joseph would surely kill our father, today's consequences are ours to bear not his", or something similar, I am not quoting a direct text.  Are we all not lessor than the Patriarchs?

My standards for teshuvah are very high, I imagine Chaim's may be as well.
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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2010, 04:07:35 AM »
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I will come out saying that I don't think he was being evil, just naive... I have had PMs with him and he struck me as immature... But aside from this I don't agree that he is some evil monster...



You know he thinks I'm a Muslim Arab and that he tried to go on Jew girls knowing that it's forbbiden and immoral?

I'm sick of this so-called merciful attitude towards Resh'aim.

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2010, 04:09:20 AM »
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  Torah teaches us to judge favorably.

For the record, only Jews (Adam in Judaism is not only a person but also a duty, the Jewish people continue Adam's duty and therefore every Jew can be defined as "Adam").
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Issac, Jacob/Israel, and Judah, all transgressed, and made amends.

Judah's redemption in front of Joseph is the reason Judaism is called such.  I  believe the incident is when he put his Father's needs, emotions and life before his own, regardless of whatever cost he may bear;  "selling Benjamin into slavery as we did our brother Joseph would surely kill our father, today's consequences are ours to bear not his", or something similar, I am not quoting a direct text.  Are we all not lessor than the Patriarchs?

A shameful comparison it is to compare a German Nazi kid and our ancestors.
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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2010, 04:24:34 AM »
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  Torah teaches us to judge favorably.

For the record, only Jews (Adam in Judaism is not only a person but also a duty, the Jewish people continue Adam's duty and therefore every Jew can be defined as "Adam").

Could you help me understand this better [as far as Jews/Gentiles, or Jews/Goyim go; I am not opposed to challenging my Torah study leader; He has the entire Talmud and other texts in his library].

I was under the impression this young man was a Jew [not that it interfered with my, current, take on Judaism; I may be wrong].
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 “I am all peace, but when I speak, they are for war.” -Psalms 120:7

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2010, 04:29:54 AM »
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  Torah teaches us to judge favorably.

For the record, only Jews (Adam in Judaism is not only a person but also a duty, the Jewish people continue Adam's duty and therefore every Jew can be defined as "Adam").

Could you help me understand this better [as far as Jews/Gentiles, or Jews/Goyim go; I am not opposed to challenging my Torah study leader; He has the entire Talmud and other texts in his library].

I was under the impression this young man was a Jew [not that it interfered with my, current, take on Judaism; I may be wrong].

Explain what?
and Steven was never Jewish, and never will be.

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2010, 05:10:18 AM »
The guy's not just young and naive, he's got serious problems. He was posting porn here, just so you know. If he's 18 he should stop spending all of his time in front of computer and get some help.

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2010, 05:15:13 AM »
I'm still in shock. "The latest and greatest to fall". Guess I'll never be an Honorable Winged Member since I have no ulterior motives.

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2010, 06:02:34 AM »
He never claimed to be Jewish. I was unaware of him posting outright porn on the forum, but he definitely enjoyed pictures of "girl on girl". Sick animal.  >:(

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2010, 06:11:59 AM »
He never claimed to be Jewish. I was unaware of him posting outright porn on the forum, but he definitely enjoyed pictures of "girl on girl". Sick animal.  >:(
As Ron mentioned he was caught going on Jewish dating sites and then told Chaim he wouldn't do it again and he was caught going to the site again. Ron knows what Steven is really like so you must listen to Ron.
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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2010, 06:17:43 AM »
I acknowledged that he was right about those two a long time ago (yesterday, at least, when I learned of this).

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2010, 06:30:11 AM »
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  Torah teaches us to judge favorably.

For the record, only Jews (Adam in Judaism is not only a person but also a duty, the Jewish people continue Adam's duty and therefore every Jew can be defined as "Adam").

Could you help me understand this better [as far as Jews/Gentiles, or Jews/Goyim go; I am not opposed to challenging my Torah study leader; He has the entire Talmud and other texts in his library].

I was under the impression this young man was a Jew [not that it interfered with my, current, take on Judaism; I may be wrong].

Explain what?
and Steven was never Jewish, and never will be.

I misunderstood, I had thought he was a Jew, I was wrong.  By the name, "German Kahanist", I thought he was a Jewish Kahanist living in Germany. - To me, not understanding the situation, I thought he was pretty cool for being a Jew with chutzpah for living in Germany of ALL places. - Perhaps I give people too much credit right off the bat.

I am asking for Talmud on saving non-Jewish lives on Shabbat, and for more information about the Adam/Judaism concepts.
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"When we tell the Arab, ‘Come, I want to help you and see to your needs,’ he doesn’t look at us like gentlemen. He sees weakness and then the wolf shows what he can do.” - Maimonides

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2010, 06:32:43 AM »
There should be an option: "I don't know."

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2010, 08:00:38 AM »
Just and young guy who liked Rubins site because it had more photos
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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2010, 08:14:55 AM »
Just and young guy who liked Rubins site because it had more photos
Who wanted to date Jewish girls.
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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2010, 08:17:14 AM »
I voted for the fourth option. What kind of "Kahanist" goes around the internet calling himself "George W. Bush the hero?"

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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2010, 08:21:04 AM »
I voted for the fourth option. What kind of "Kahanist" goes around the internet calling himself "George W. Bush the hero?"
Any non-Jew that wants to date a Jew and knows it's wrong is very evil.
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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2010, 08:25:29 AM »
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Bryan I think they got the Jew girls part
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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2010, 08:27:14 AM »
There should be an option: "I don't know."

Exactly. I wouldn't know either and personally I don't care.
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Re: What was the true identity of Steven Weigang (German "Kahanist")?
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2010, 08:30:43 AM »
I am watching this guy on his new Forum too and I want to get it closed! I am glad that an Admin has banned him. It seems he is a totally freak and megalomaniac.