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January 28, 2010
Study: Taliban a Bunch of Closeted Homosexuals Who Also Are Pedophiles
For the three of you who don't already know, Taliban fighters are overwhelmingly Pashtun.
Also, the report is so disgusting-funny (is there a word for something that is repugnant but makes you laugh hysterically?) that I've been sitting here trying to come up with some snarky commentary -- but, really, what more could I add? I mean, anally contracted gonorrhea? You can't make that sh*t up! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/01/28/afghan-men-struggle-sexual-identity-study-finds/
The study, obtained by Fox News, found that Pashtun men commonly have sex with other men, admire other men physically, have sexual relationships with boys and shun women both socially and sexually -- yet they completely reject the label of "homosexual." The research was conducted as part of a longstanding effort to better understand Afghan culture and improve Western interaction with the local people. ...
n one instance, a group of local male interpreters had contracted gonorrhea anally but refused to believe they could have contracted it sexually -- "because they were not homosexuals."
Apparently, according to the report, Pashtun men interpret the Islamic prohibition on homosexuality to mean they cannot "love" another man -- but that doesn't mean they can't use men for "sexual gratification." ...
The report also detailed a disturbing practice in which older "men of status" keep young boys on hand for sexual relationships. One of the country's favorite sayings, the report said, is "women are for children, boys are for pleasure."
Nothing says "not gay" louder than anally contracted gonorrhea.
Also, NAMBLA, like Code Pink, now supporting the Taliban as freedom fighters.
Oh yeah, hey Taliban. Tom Cruise called. He wants his closet back.
Andy Dick also wants to know why you never cuddle anymore after exchanging anal gonorrhea?
Yup, no commentary from me. None whatsoever.
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Those 'pole-boys from Cairo'-rapers should all die from aids.
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''Women are for children and boys are for pleasure''?!? What the f**k?!?? These muslim apes can't deny the obvious fact that they're an ugly bunch of fags!!
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Pretend to be frum and then do what you want. This is Islam.
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Yeah, kill innocent people for Allah.
commit a suicide for Allah.
behead a Christian or a Jew for Allah.
Act like a bloodthirsty animal in the sake of Allah... They behave like barbarians in the name of their false moon-god.
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Pretend to be frum and then do what you want. This is Islam.
Ulli, I understand what you mean, but "frum" is a word ( I think it might be yiddish?) that is used particularly with reference to pious, Torah-observant Jews. To use it in the context of a false religion will not be understood by people and is not connected.
You might want to say instead: "Pretend to be pious and then do what you want. This is Islam."
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Pretend to be frum and then do what you want. This is Islam.
Islam is such a horrible religion. It makes me sick to my stomach.
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Pretend to be frum and then do what you want. This is Islam.
Ulli, I understand what you mean, but "frum" is a word ( I think it might be yiddish?) that is used particularly with reference to pious, Torah-observant Jews. To use it in the context of a false religion will not be understood by people and is not connected.
You might want to say instead: "Pretend to be pious and then do what you want. This is Islam."
My thoughts exactly... Frum is a strictly Jewish word for Orthodox Jews, not for other religions.
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Also i don't know what Holy Book they are reading but Torah expressly forbids Man-On-Man sex, regardless of whether you love him or not... The Torah forbids the physical relationship, not the emotional one...
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Also i don't know what Holy Book they are reading but Torah expressly forbids Man-On-Man sex, regardless of whether you love him or not... The Torah forbids the physical relationship, not the emotional one...
Yes, absolutely. But don't remember that these pigs claim that Torah was cooked up by evil Jews/Christians who had a conspiracy to hide the true revelations of Allah.
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Guys, you just have to understand something, the whole Islam is based 100% m the Holy Quran.. this book was written by a desert-brigand who had no education., he heard a few stories from the Torah and from the New Testament, and decided that God chose him to spread his word. The Quran is full of Bullsh*t (I'm deeply sorry if my words offend some of our Muslim members here)
The Quran has many crucial errors in it, for example, it said that King David lived before Moses and the Exodus!! I have read the Quran! And I tell you, it's filled with chronological mistakes and contradictions. The Islam is certainly a false religion, I am sure about it.
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Guys, you just have to understand something, the whole Islam is based 100% m the Holy Quran.. this book was written by a desert-brigand who had no education., he heard a few stories from the Torah and from the New Testament, and decided that G-d chose him to spread his word. The Quran is full of Bullsh*t (I'm deeply sorry if my words offend some of our Muslim members here)
The Quran has many crucial errors in it, for example, it said that King David lived before Moses and the Exodus!! I have read the Quran! And I tell you, it's filled with chronological mistakes and contradictions. The Islam is certainly a false religion, I am sure about it.
I have also heard that the Qurman says that Mary {mother of jeesus} was actually Moses sister Miriam... Yet Miriam lived 1000s of years before jeesus was supposedly born...
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Guys, you just have to understand something, the whole Islam is based 100% m the Holy Quran.. this book was written by a desert-brigand who had no education., he heard a few stories from the Torah and from the New Testament, and decided that G-d chose him to spread his word. The Quran is full of Bullsh*t (I'm deeply sorry if my words offend some of our Muslim members here)
The Quran has many crucial errors in it, for example, it said that King David lived before Moses and the Exodus!! I have read the Quran! And I tell you, it's filled with chronological mistakes and contradictions. The Islam is certainly a false religion, I am sure about it.
I have also heard that the Qurman says that Mary {mother of jeesus} was actually Moses sister Miriam... Yet Miriam lived 1000s of years before jeesus was supposedly born...
You left out a few eeeeeeeeeee's in Jesus :o
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I can not and will NOT accept pisslam as a religion. It is a CULT!
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Yeah, it's written in the Holy Quran that Moses' sister was Jesus' mother. And they also say that Abraham was the first Muslim in the world. And that the Torah was rewritten by the Jewish infidels. And that only the Holy Quran (in Arabic: Qittab Al Quran Al Muqaddas) tells the truth. It is also written in that book that the Christians are fools and liars, and that the Jews make God angry. And that eventually Islam shall prevail and the Jews and the Christians will burn in hell for eternity. The Quran also tells us that the Jews are swines and monkeys ( I swear it's written, I read that book), and that the noble prophet of Allah Muhammad, had a talking horse named Al Buraq, who had a face of a beautiful maiden... A very realistic religion isn't it?
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Yeah, it's written in the Holy Quran that Moses' sister was Jesus' mother. And they also say that Abraham was the first Muslim in the world. And that the Torah was rewritten by the Jewish infidels. And that only the Holy Quran (in Arabic: Qittab Al Quran Al Muqaddas) tells the truth. It is also written in that book that the Christians are fools and liars, and that the Jews make G-d angry. And that eventually Islam shall prevail and the Jews and the Christians will burn in hell for eternity. The Quran also tells us that the Jews are swines and monkeys ( I swear it's written, I read that book), and that the noble prophet of Allah Muhammad, had a talking horse named Al Buraq, who had a face of a beautiful maiden... A very realistic religion isn't it?
You mean cult, don't you... Pisslam is no religion... It is a cult of madmen, as our Holy Torah tells us about the descendents of Ishmael.
PS: The evil prophet Bilaam also had a talking donkey, and the midrash relates that Bilaam also 'knew' his donkey {meaning he slept with it sexually}.
http://74.125.155.132/custom?q=cache:PTZcp5bQFiIJ:www.rashiyomi.com/rule0129.rtf+balaam's+donkey+sex&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=google-csbe (http://74.125.155.132/custom?q=cache:PTZcp5bQFiIJ:www.rashiyomi.com/rule0129.rtf+balaam's+donkey+sex&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=google-csbe)
Verse Nu22-29 states And Balaam said unto the ass: 'Because thou hast sported with me; I would there were a sword in my hand, for now I had killed thee.' וַיֹּאמֶר בִּלְעָם לָאָתוֹן, כִּי הִתְעַלַּלְתְּ בִּי; לוּ יֶשׁ-חֶרֶב בְּיָדִי, כִּי עַתָּה הֲרַגְתִּיךְ. Rashi: Ayin Lamed Lamed,עַלַּלְ, means to harass. In the hitpael mode הִתְעַלַּלְתְּ means to sport with; that is to interactively tease someone such as sexual teasing. From this verse we infer that Bilam had bestial sexual relations with his donkey.
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I have also heard that the Qurman says that Mary {mother of jeesus} was actually Moses sister Miriam... Yet Miriam lived 1000s of years before jeesus was supposedly born...
Please learn to refrain from these kinds of statements.
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Edward, why do you keep writing the "Holy Koran?"
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http://www.islam-watch.org/Amarkhan/pedophilia-in-islam/pedophilia-islam.htm
1. Introduction
2. Pedophilia in the Quran
3. Pedophilia in the Hadith
4. Pedophilia in Islamic Fatwas
5. Myth of Aisha's Age Contradiction
6. Proof that Ayesha was Prepubescent
7. Conclusions
8. Common Muslims Arguments
Islam is consistent about it's approval of child-sex. "Islamic thighing"
10. Khomeini's Teachings on sex with infants and animals:
Islamic teachings on sex with infants:
"A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate. If he penetrates and the child is harmed then he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl, however would not count as one of his four permanent wives. The man will not be eligible to marry the girl's sister." [The complete Persian text of this saying can be found in "Ayatollah Khomeini in Tahrirolvasyleh, Fourth Edition, Darol Elm, Qom"]
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OMG Ariel, that literally made me sick to my stomach reading that! Even animals would not do such an awful awful thing! >:( :'(
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Edward, why do you keep writing the "Holy Koran?"
Good point, Lisa.
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Pretend to be frum and then do what you want. This is Islam.
Ulli, I understand what you mean, but "frum" is a word ( I think it might be yiddish?) that is used particularly with reference to pious, Torah-observant Jews. To use it in the context of a false religion will not be understood by people and is not connected.
You might want to say instead: "Pretend to be pious and then do what you want. This is Islam."
I used it, because I heard it here on the forum many times. I think DWI used it regulary. In German it is fromm, so it was common to me. Pious is perhaps the better choice.
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Lisa, I cynically called it ''the holy Quran''... I don't think that this book is truly holy, just look at the damning post that I've written about that religion.. By the way many of you guys think that Islam isn't a religion but a cult.. I disagree with you on that point, a cult is a small religious group, that is considered unusual - that's not the proper definition for Islam, as it has hundreds of millions of followers (and they will keep on growing overwhelmingly). I woulm define Islam that way: a militant, extremly xenophobic monotheistic belief and ideology that impose upon its believers strict laws called the Sharia Laws, based on the false scriptures written by a desert-brigand from Arabia who was also a brutal mass-murderer.
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I have a question, why do you think that Islam isn't a religion?
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I see those muslamic cities as replica of the OT cities that were erased. That were erased and these are to be erased. Nothing more nothing less.
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I see those muslamic cities as replica of the OT cities that were erased. That were erased and these are to be erased. Nothing more nothing less.
I see islam as a degenerating disease that spreads like cancer.
It needs to be erased in it's entirety and that ka'aba needs to be launched into space again.
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The Ka'aba stone has many interesting myths around it. The ''Holy'' Quran explains that the Ka'aba was given by Allah to the patriach Ibrahim and his beloved, rightious son whose name was
Isma'il. Also it is written in the Quran that the stone was pearly and bright as is descended from the skies, however, many years have passed and the stone blackened, because evil infidels touched it.
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I can not and will NOT accept pisslam as a religion. It is a CULT!
Hi Dawn !
You are so correct, islam is a CULT of DEATH and DESTRUCTION!
Shalom & G-d Bless you
Dox
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The Ka'aba stone has many interesting myths around it. The ''Holy'' Quran explains that the Ka'aba was given by Allah to the patriach Ibrahim and his beloved, rightious son whose name was
Isma'il. Also it is written in the Quran that the stone was pearly and bright as is descended from the skies, however, many years have passed and the stone blackened, because evil infidels touched it.
It perhaps also says that when the stone becomes perfect black then muslamics will be eliminated from the earth. I see it has just become perfect black and everything else is shining.
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Pretend to be frum and then do what you want. This is Islam.
Ulli, I understand what you mean, but "frum" is a word ( I think it might be yiddish?) that is used particularly with reference to pious, Torah-observant Jews. To use it in the context of a false religion will not be understood by people and is not connected.
You might want to say instead: "Pretend to be pious and then do what you want. This is Islam."
My thoughts exactly... Frum is a strictly Jewish word for Orthodox Jews, not for other religions.
It's actually a German word distorted in Yiddish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frum
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Pretend to be frum and then do what you want. This is Islam.
Ulli, I understand what you mean, but "frum" is a word ( I think it might be yiddish?) that is used particularly with reference to pious, Torah-observant Jews. To use it in the context of a false religion will not be understood by people and is not connected.
You might want to say instead: "Pretend to be pious and then do what you want. This is Islam."
My thoughts exactly... Frum is a strictly Jewish word for Orthodox Jews, not for other religions.
It's actually a German word distorted in Yiddish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frum
So Kahane was right BT was indeed right. The word is only used in the context of Judaism. I like the expression frum and ehrlich. This discribes very well our good Chaim.
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I can not and will NOT accept pisslam as a religion. It is a CULT!
Hi Dawn !
You are so correct, islam is a CULT of DEATH and DESTRUCTION!
Shalom & G-d Bless you
Dox
Don't forget bestiality and childrape.
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Hi Elizabeth! You are so right!
Bio Electric, they are of everything horrid anyone can dream of. >:(
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I have a question, why do you think that Islam isn't a religion?
If Islam was a religion, defined by common traits other religions value, the 5 daily prayers, visiting the holy places of their prophets, being charitable to widows, orphans and strangers, eating a holy diet, celebrating holidays; all of this would take priority over killing kafir. - Even if it was more of a religion, it is an incredibly anti-female religion.
http://www.politicalislam.com/tears/pages/tears-of-jihad/
The specific texts of Islam have murdered over 270 million people [or more, not less] in the last several hundred years.
In recent times almost 4 million people in Africa have been murdered by Jihadists within the past 30 years.
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I have a question, why do you think that Islam isn't a religion?
If Islam was a religion, defined by common traits other religions value, the 5 daily prayers, visiting the holy places of their prophets, being charitable to widows, orphans and strangers, eating a holy diet, celebrating holidays; all of this would take priority over killing kafir. - Even if it was more of a religion, it is an incredibly anti-female religion.
http://www.politicalislam.com/tears/pages/tears-of-jihad/
The specific texts of Islam have murdered over 270 million people [or more, not less] in the last several hundred years.
In recent times almost 4 million people in Africa have been murdered by Jihadists within the past 30 years.
What a horrible religion Islam is and they're still killing more infidels.
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Is Homosexuality Allowed In Islam?
The Koran contradicts itself on this topic as well. The following verses state that homosexuality is forbidden.
(Koran 4:16)
If two men among you is guilty of lewdness, punish
them both...
(Koran 27:55)
Would ye really approach men in your lusts rather
than Women? Nay, ye are a people (grossly) ignorant!
Now the verses below are in clear contradiction of the above verses.
(Koran 52:24)
Round about them will serve, to them, boys
(handsome) as pearls well-guarded.
(Koran 56:17)
Round about them will serve boys of perpetual
freshness.
(Koran 76:19)
And round about them will serve boys of perpetual
freshness: if thou seest them, thou wouldst think
them scattered pearls.
Mohammed could not make up his mind about Sodomy. He prohibits it on earth, but then he says that Muslims can enjoy homosexuality in Paradise. It is a well established fact that many famous Muslims were practicing homosexuals who looked towards the Koran to justify their actions. For example, Babar, the moghul king was madly in love with a young boy named Baburi. Kuttubuddin Aibak, another Muslim ruler of India used to dress up as a woman and dance in a vulgar manner.
Another example is Abu Nuwas--one of the greatest poets in Arabic language writes in the Perfumed Garden:
O the joy of sodomy! So now be sodomites, you Arabs.
Turn not away from it--therein is wondrous pleasure.
Take some coy lad with kiss-curls twisting on his temple
and ride as he stands like some gazelle standing to her mate.
-A lad whom all can see girt with sword and belt
not like your whore who has to go veiled.
Make for smooth-faced boys and do your very best
to mount them, for women are the mounts of the devils.
There are other such poems by Abu Nuwas and others which are more graphic in glorifying homosexuality and lesbianism.
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Ayatollah Khomeini was well known for wearing womens perfume.
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God damn it!!! Are you serious?! The Quran strictly forbids homosexuality... they even hang gay men in Iran!
By the way, I know it seems like I defend the Islam.. but I do not, I just learnt about it, and read the Quran entirely.. So Even though it may seem that the Quran allows homosexual relationships between men, it does not, there are very harsh punishments for such crimes. The Islam allows, however, lesbian relations, but they must be secret.
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Oh, and another thing, about lesbianism in Christianity and Judaism, I don't remember any biblical source that prohibits it.
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Romans 1:20-26 (for Christianity)
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I asked a muslamic whether he was an islamic. He said that: No, we are muslims.
After few months I casually told the same person that: so you are muslims. Then he said: No, we are islamics.
Likewise their gholy bhookh also supports and contradicts the shodomhy at the same time.
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Oh, and another thing, about lesbianism in Christianity and Judaism, I don't remember any biblical source that prohibits it.
I don't think the Torah mentions lesbianism, but I believe the Talmud forbids it.
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בס"ד
Islam is a religion, even though it's a cancer, a sub-human BS invented by a bored lonely unliked-by-women ape.
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Oh, and another thing, about lesbianism in Christianity and Judaism, I don't remember any biblical source that prohibits it.
I don't think the Torah mentions lesbianism, but I believe the Talmud forbids it.
Agreed. I don't think Torah mentions lesbianism.
# Leviticus 18:22 - You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.
# Leviticus 20:13 - If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.
In Christianity -yes, both homosexuality & lesbianism are condemned:
# Romans 1:26-27 - For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
# I Corinthians 6:9 (NIV) - Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
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בס"ד
Torah forbids it. Look up "הנשים המסוללות" in Shulchan Aruch.
הלכות איסורי ביאה פרק כא:
ח נשים המסוללות זו בזו--אסור, וממעשה מצריים הוא שהוזהרנו עליו: שנאמר "כמעשה ארץ מצריים . . . לא תעשו" (ויקרא יח,ג);
ואמרו חכמים, מה היו עושים--איש נושא איש, ואישה נושאה אישה, ואישה נישאת לשני אנשים.
ט אף על פי שמעשה זה אסור, אין מלקין עליו--שאין לו לאו מיוחד, והרי אין שם ביאה כלל; לפיכך אין נאסרות לכהונה משום זנות,
ולא תיאסר אישה על בעלה בזה--שאין כאן זנות. וראוי להכותן מכת מרדות, הואיל ועשו איסור.
ויש לאיש להקפיד על אשתו בדבר זה, ולמנוע הנשים הידועות בכך מלהיכנס לה ומלצאת היא אליהן.
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/i/5121.htm
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Ani mevin Ivrit katsat, loh kolkah tov. [but I'm working on it each day].
What does this say in English?
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Back in June, 2009, on an " Ask JTF" show, my question to Chaim was as follows:
http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php/topic,35019.15.html
While the Torah ( Bible ) clearly prohibits and condemns male homosexuality ( Leviticus 18:22........"Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination."), I've seen and heard different interpretations of whether female homosexualty is acceptable/ permissible according to Jewish and Noahide Law.
My question this week is, what is your interpretation of whether female homosexualty is acceptable/permissible according to Jewish and Noahide Law.
The JTF Archives site that WestCoastJTF put together has Chaim's audio answer.
http://www.jtfarchive.org/index.pl
2009-06-10, show c
The question and answer start around the 01:55:00 point of the program.
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Ani mevin Ivrit katsat, loh kolkah tov. [but I'm working on it each day].
What does this say in English?
Ron brings a quote from the "Shulchan Aruch" which for frum Jews is a sound and binding rule based on the Talmud. It says women aren't allowed do "mmmm" with each other, and they quote the Torah: Vayikrah 18,3 "don't follow the habits of the land Egypt" which sages say include man takes man, woman takes woman, woman takes two man.
But even though it is forbidden there is flogging isn't sanctioned for this act since there is no explicit forbidding, and in fact there is no real penetration (I guess they haven't heard of strapons ...), and woman who committed the act aren't forbidden for their hasbands and are not condemned as prostitutes. Yet since they act in defiance to the law they may receive corporal punishment as rebellious wives and women who are know offenders must be prevented from visiting or receiving other offender women.
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Great! You've answered all my question... Now I have more knowledge.. now I'm much smarter than before......