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Title: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: AsheDina on May 17, 2010, 11:34:15 AM
Frum yid is asked and summoned to this website to debate us.

He IS a left winger, he believes that the left wing are 'nice people and "GOOD" for America' You know, like the 'greater good'

He does not like my blog, because I criticize our people. TOO BAD, the gentiles and Christians get it too on my blog. My blog is also rated R. IF someone does not like something on MY WEBSITE, I will NOT be silenced.

He may digress here without threats of 'cutting me off', the attorney general, multiple SPAM posts that my admins are SICK of.

Advising OTHER blogs that I am not Jewish just because I am not 'religious'  -I am more of a Jew than this jerk will EVER be. Mitzvah is an EVERYDAY thing here with me and my David Ben Moshe. We now even celebrate Shabbos together.  He needs to digress in a GENTLEMAN like manner, HERE or nowhere. He stalks me now as well. I AM SICK OF IT.

I HAVE HAD IT with Communist Bolshevik Brainwashings. I have lived with this [censored] my whole life, and SICK of it.

Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: mord on May 17, 2010, 11:35:37 AM
Thats the same frumyid from your blog :o
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: AsheDina on May 17, 2010, 11:38:51 AM
Thats the same frumyid from your blog :o

yeah, he can come here, he is [censored] off my admins. They write there too.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on May 17, 2010, 11:44:50 AM
Why don't you just ip-ban that pig?
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: AsheDina on May 17, 2010, 11:54:31 AM
Why don't you just ip-ban that pig?

I did, but now he FOLLOWS me all over the NET. So, here is an open debate, it will also make the forum more interesting, and maybe we can help these poor, unfortunate souls repent for being so hateful to America, and Gentiles.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on May 17, 2010, 12:58:30 PM
Mitzvah is an EVERYDAY thing here with me and my David Ben Moshe. We now even celebrate Shabbos together. 

Yasher Koach, to you two. 

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He needs to digress in a GENTLEMAN like manner, HERE or nowhere. He stalks me now as well. I AM SICK OF IT.

I HAVE HAD IT with Communist Bolshevik Brainwashings. I have lived with this drek my whole life, and SICK of it.



Let's see him come here and debate us.   What is his obsession with you in the first place?  Maybe he likes you and can't figure out how to say it!

The leftwing clown won't last very long here if he's going to stick to ad hominem attack, but it's worth it for us to clobber him with facts and leave it on the forum for everyone to see.

Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: AsheDina on May 17, 2010, 01:07:31 PM
Mitzvah is an EVERYDAY thing here with me and my David Ben Moshe. We now even celebrate Shabbos together. 

Yasher Koach, to you two. 

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He needs to digress in a GENTLEMAN like manner, HERE or nowhere. He stalks me now as well. I AM SICK OF IT.

I HAVE HAD IT with Communist Bolshevik Brainwashings. I have lived with this drek my whole life, and SICK of it.



Let's see him come here and debate us.   What is his obsession with you in the first place?  Maybe he likes you and can't figure out how to say it!

The leftwing clown won't last very long here if he's going to stick to ad hominem attack, but it's worth it for us to clobber him with facts and leave it on the forum for everyone to see.



Unfortunately...we cannot get David to stop eating the bacon, and bacon I have had, and its gross. But, all the same, David was an atheist-Jew, he is no longer. Just ask Chaim & its b/c of ME.  I think frum yid follows ME, b/c no woman wants him, and he probably just likes my spirit! LOL
BRING IT ON FRUM!!! HAHAH
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 17, 2010, 03:55:09 PM
you people fascinate me. All I am doing is asking for an explanation. I would have said nothing except that when I registered, I had to sign a TOS agreement that stated I would not say slanderous or hateful things, and I have not, but look at all of you. How is it that I am supposed to abide by the TOS but none of the rest of you have to? And once again, will ONE of you name ONE living rabbi that approves of your lashon hara? not only against political people, but now against HaRav Shlomo Riskin, an Israeli Patriot, a Talmut Hocham, and the Chief Rabbi of Efrat where I doubt any of you would live. 

Every time I posted on AsheDina's blog, I did so with the expectation that she would not approve my post. I only wanted her to see it, and she had already blocked my emails so I could not send anything directly to her.

I am a dedicated follower of the Chofetz Chaim, and try every day to learn moderation. I have only brought out to AsheDina and the rest of your that your lashon hara is completely against the torah. And the only question I have wanted answered is "who is your rabbi, and does he know that you are spreading hate against other Jews, including now Talmud Hochamim?" If any of you will answer this question, I will stop writing to you altogether, and simply ask him the shylah. 

If you think that this is unreasonable, then tell me where in halacha you have your justification. 
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on May 17, 2010, 04:27:49 PM
... of your lashon hara? not only against political people, but now against HaRav Shlomo Riskin, an Israeli Patriot, a Talmut Hocham, and the Chief Rabbi of Efrat where I doubt any of you would live.    

You are mistaken.

When I said "I assure you that here on this forum we do not take our hashkafa (or halacha for that matter) from Rabbi Riskin, with all due respect,"    I did not speak any lashon hara, I simply stated a fact.   Granted I can't speak for everyone on the forum, but generally my statement is true at least for the most part.    Did you not notice the part that said with all due respect ?  There is nothing wrong with stating that we take our hashkafa from certain rabbis and not from others.  The hashkafa on this website is mostly inspired by Rabbi Kahane ZT"L and that is pretty much shared across the board for our Jewish members and even for non Jewish members believe it or not!   So there is no lashon hara involved.

Secondly, many of our members live in Eretz Yisrael in all types of places including yishuvim in Judea and Samaria, so why would you doubt any of us could/would live in Efrat?  Don't be silly.  We also have a Hebrew speaking forum where our members are Israelis living in many places.

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I am a dedicated follower of the Chofetz Chaim, and try every day to learn moderation. 
  Good for you.   Kol Hakavod.

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I have only brought out to AsheDina and the rest of your that your lashon hara is completely against the torah.
  You must mean Torah.

What lashon hara did I speak?


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  And the only question I have wanted answered is "who is your rabbi, and does he know that you are spreading hate against other Jews, including now Talmud Hochamim?" (sic)

You must have meant Talmid Hochamim?   But again you are incorrectly basing this on your first mistake.  I did not speak lashon hara about Rabbi Riskin or talmidei hochamim, perish the thought.   Chas Ve Shalom.

Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 17, 2010, 04:31:13 PM
Kahane-was-right: my apology. I never meant my comments to refer to you specifically. I accept each of your comments and corrections.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 17, 2010, 04:38:46 PM
 bio-electric apprentice: What do you know from your personal knowledge that gives you reason to call me "pig"? I don't deny you have the "right" to do so, but don't you think you should have some kind of reason?
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: muman613 on May 17, 2010, 04:46:17 PM
Kahane-was-right: my apology. I never meant my comments to refer to you specifically. I accept each of your comments and corrections.

I also never made any comment other than the fact that we don't necessarily take Rabbi Riskins opinion to be the correct opinion. As KWRBT pointed out previously we at JTF look to the Jewish idea of Rabbi Kahane Ztl for our philosophy.

Some people here do say things which may cross the bounds of decency... But I often point out to people when they have crossed the line.

If you are sincere in your attempts to follow the Chofetz Chaims laws concerning Lashon Hara then this is a meritorious thing. I would hope that your only purpose in coming to JTF is to make a good example of yourself that you are able to rebuke lovingly.

What you will find is that at JTF we are concerned with Jewish survival against enemies who are consumed with the hope of destroying the Jewish people.. It would be good if you can find it in yourself to study Rabbi Kahane and join us in our Religious Zionist goal of establishing a true Jewish state in the land which Hashem promised.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: AsheDina on May 17, 2010, 05:10:59 PM
bio-electric apprentice: What do you know from your personal knowledge that gives you reason to call me "pig"? I don't deny you have the "right" to do so, but don't you think you should have some kind of reason?

STOP acting like one, and STOP LYING.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: AsheDina on May 17, 2010, 05:13:49 PM
... of your lashon hara? not only against political people, but now against HaRav Shlomo Riskin, an Israeli Patriot, a Talmut Hocham, and the Chief Rabbi of Efrat where I doubt any of you would live.    

You are mistaken.

When I said "I assure you that here on this forum we do not take our hashkafa (or halacha for that matter) from Rabbi Riskin, with all due respect,"    I did not speak any lashon hara, I simply stated a fact.   Granted I can't speak for everyone on the forum, but generally my statement is true at least for the most part.    Did you not notice the part that said with all due respect ?  There is nothing wrong with stating that we take our hashkafa from certain rabbis and not from others.  The hashkafa on this website is mostly inspired by Rabbi Kahane ZT"L and that is pretty much shared across the board for our Jewish members and even for non Jewish members believe it or not!   So there is no lashon hara involved.

Secondly, many of our members live in Eretz Yisrael in all types of places including yishuvim in Judea and Samaria, so why would you doubt any of us could/would live in Efrat?  Don't be silly.  We also have a Hebrew speaking forum where our members are Israelis living in many places.

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I am a dedicated follower of the Chofetz Chaim, and try every day to learn moderation. 
  Good for you.   Kol Hakavod.

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I have only brought out to AsheDina and the rest of your that your lashon hara is completely against the torah.
  You must mean Torah.

What lashon hara did I speak?


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  And the only question I have wanted answered is "who is your rabbi, and does he know that you are spreading hate against other Jews, including now Talmud Hochamim?" (sic)

You must have meant Talmid Hochamim?   But again you are incorrectly basing this on your first mistake.  I did not speak lashon hara about Rabbi Riskin or talmidei hochamim, perish the thought.   Chas Ve Shalom.



KAHANE, I criticize LEADERS, which is my right, as an AMERICAN. Jew OR gentile. Kahane did so, Chaim does so, I do so, David does so, we ALL do so, he acts like I attack some little Jews that cause zero harm. I go after WAXMAN, KAGAN, Schumer, Emmanuel, ETC.. and I will continue, no bannings, no ZERO will stop me.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on May 17, 2010, 05:27:48 PM
KAHANE, I criticize LEADERS, which is my right, as an AMERICAN. Jew OR gentile. Kahane did so, Chaim does so, I do so, David does so, we ALL do so, he acts like I attack some little Jews that cause zero harm. I go after WAXMAN, KAGAN, Schumer, Emmanuel, ETC.. and I will continue, no bannings, no ZERO will stop me.

I didn't say you were wrong, I don't really know the details.  I highly doubt you would be banned here, who would think of doing that?  The real issue here is - what is the reason for opposition to Kagan?  Who is she?  I guess if you want to type those things out here, go for it.  I was never interested in the topic but now I'll be more informed.   So you can answer his complaints with confidence if you know she is not a good leader for the Jewish people. 
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: AsheDina on May 17, 2010, 05:31:54 PM
KAHANE, I criticize LEADERS, which is my right, as an AMERICAN. Jew OR gentile. Kahane did so, Chaim does so, I do so, David does so, we ALL do so, he acts like I attack some little Jews that cause zero harm. I go after WAXMAN, KAGAN, Schumer, Emmanuel, ETC.. and I will continue, no bannings, no ZERO will stop me.

I didn't say you were wrong, I don't really know the details.  I highly doubt you would be banned here, who would think of doing that?  The real issue here is - what is the reason for opposition to Kagan?  Who is she?  I guess if you want to type those things out here, go for it.  I was never interested in the topic but now I'll be more informed.   So you can answer his complaints with confidence if you know she is not a good leader for the Jewish people. 

She is #1, not a good leader to us, because she takes up for our natural enemies, and I notice that Sue Edelman is a Jew that wrote this story, why is HER Jewry not in question?:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/families_blast_kagan_HG8Y7rJksGy6HjlEuhmUpM

Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan has gotten an angry thumbs-down from 9/11 family members who say she played a key role in quashing a lawsuit that accused the Saudi kingdom of helping finance the terror attacks.

"Kagan is the main reason why the Supreme Court ruled against the 9/11 families," said William Doyle, who lost his son in the Twin Towers.

Doyle and thousands of other 9/11 relatives had joined in a suit that traced funding for the 19 hijackers to certain Saudi royals, along with banks, corporations and Islamic charities.

The royals were let off the hook last year at the urging of Kagan, the US solicitor general.

"Kagan protected them," Doyle said. "I think it's a huge issue, and I hope it comes up in her confirmation hearings."

She filed a brief to the Supreme Court last May, arguing that the Foreign Sovereign Immunity Act shielded Saudi princes from the suit's claims that they gave money to Osama bin Laden and other terrorist leaders or to charities that funneled funds to al Qaeda.

Kagan cited "the potentially significant foreign-relations consequences of subjecting another sovereign state to suit."

The Supreme Court declined to hear the case.



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Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: AsheDina on May 17, 2010, 05:34:49 PM
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-kagan-abortion-20100516,0,1338436.story

On abortion. She does not have a 'decided opinion' which just means she is PRO MURDERING babies.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: AsheDina on May 17, 2010, 05:36:39 PM
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/14/the-first-amendment-under-progressive-siege/

Restriction of FREE Speech, 1st Ammendment rights.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: AsheDina on May 17, 2010, 05:42:16 PM
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/05/13/breaking-we-have-elena-kagans-college-thesis/

Princeton Thesis SCRUBBED....Well, whatever for...BOLSHEVIK SOCIALIST, thats why- THAT is a danger to our people, it is a danger to Americans and Christians in America. We have been MURDERED under Commie regimes....but, I forgot, Frum is ONE!  And this EVIL woman would NEVER hurt a fellow Jew would she? You mean the way the Bolshevik-Jews in the revolt didnt didnt hurt the Jewish people, DEMANDING they renounce their Zionsim & Judaism, they were not declared an emeny of the state?

Oh....yes, this is what Chaim did what he did re. Russia, this is why David Ben Moshes parents FLED Russia....
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: AsheDina on May 17, 2010, 05:45:49 PM
Titled "To the Final Conflict: Socialism in New York City, 1900-1933," Kagan opined that infighting caused the decline of the early socialist movement. She asked why the "greatness" of socialism was not reemerging as a  major political force.

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=152133

the above article was written by Aaron Klein, he is a Jew as well, why is he not on the chopping block as I am, and condemned to hell as FRUMP does to me? Eh? He also wrote about Obama "The Manchurian President" a hit on the NY Slimes best seller list. BUT, he MUST be anti-semitic! He writes about fellow Jews!!
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: americankahanist on May 17, 2010, 05:59:10 PM
Frumyid
Moderation?    Moderates believe in nothing and fall for everything.  In Arizona, they want to raise the sales tax temporarily (ha, dont make me laugh) to aid the schools in tough times and budget shortfalls.    Many moderates are going to vote for it along with leftists because in the words of P.T. Barnum, a sucker is born every minute.  The money is always there for important things.  One thing we dont need down here is highway construction and as you get to Phoenix, thats just what they are doing.  Stop make work construction projects and use that money as needed for the schools.   Let the illegal Mexican highway workers starve
David Ben Moshe
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on May 17, 2010, 06:05:17 PM
KAHANE, I criticize LEADERS, which is my right, as an AMERICAN. Jew OR gentile. Kahane did so, Chaim does so, I do so, David does so, we ALL do so, he acts like I attack some little Jews that cause zero harm. I go after WAXMAN, KAGAN, Schumer, Emmanuel, ETC.. and I will continue, no bannings, no ZERO will stop me.

I didn't say you were wrong, I don't really know the details.  I highly doubt you would be banned here, who would think of doing that?  The real issue here is - what is the reason for opposition to Kagan?  Who is she?  I guess if you want to type those things out here, go for it.  I was never interested in the topic but now I'll be more informed.   So you can answer his complaints with confidence if you know she is not a good leader for the Jewish people. 

Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan has gotten an angry thumbs-down from 9/11 family members who say she played a key role in quashing a lawsuit that accused the Saudi kingdom of helping finance the terror attacks.

"Kagan is the main reason why the Supreme Court ruled against the 9/11 families," said William Doyle, who lost his son in the Twin Towers.

 :o :o :o

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Kagan cited "the potentially significant foreign-relations consequences of subjecting another sovereign state to suit."

The Supreme Court declined to hear the case.

 :o   Case closed.  I'm against her.  She is insane!     

She has the fear of "foreign-relations consequences" mentality so common to fearful, exile-warped Jews.  Jews have suffered under such people for too long.   America does not know what it's getting itself into by putting such a person in charge over it.   
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: AsheDina on May 17, 2010, 06:26:29 PM
KAHANE, I criticize LEADERS, which is my right, as an AMERICAN. Jew OR gentile. Kahane did so, Chaim does so, I do so, David does so, we ALL do so, he acts like I attack some little Jews that cause zero harm. I go after WAXMAN, KAGAN, Schumer, Emmanuel, ETC.. and I will continue, no bannings, no ZERO will stop me.

I didn't say you were wrong, I don't really know the details.  I highly doubt you would be banned here, who would think of doing that?  The real issue here is - what is the reason for opposition to Kagan?  Who is she?  I guess if you want to type those things out here, go for it.  I was never interested in the topic but now I'll be more informed.   So you can answer his complaints with confidence if you know she is not a good leader for the Jewish people. 

Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan has gotten an angry thumbs-down from 9/11 family members who say she played a key role in quashing a lawsuit that accused the Saudi kingdom of helping finance the terror attacks.

"Kagan is the main reason why the Supreme Court ruled against the 9/11 families," said William Doyle, who lost his son in the Twin Towers.

 :o :o :o

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Kagan cited "the potentially significant foreign-relations consequences of subjecting another sovereign state to suit."

The Supreme Court declined to hear the case.

 :o   Case closed.  I'm against her.  She is insane!     

She has the fear of "foreign-relations consequences" mentality so common to fearful, exile-warped Jews.  Jews have suffered under such people for too long.   America does not know what it's getting itself into by putting such a person in charge over it.   

Shes a threat, shes a Bolshevik, SHE is the one that will throw US in the ovens and kiss A-rab ASS
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on May 17, 2010, 08:07:31 PM
Re:  "I had to sign a TOS agreement that stated I would not say slanderous or hateful things"

Exactly!

My Mom always taught me, "If you don't have anything nice to say about somebody, don't say anything at all!"

So you see...all those things I say about other people that you find hateful or slanderous, are in fact the few nice things I can think to say about them!

The really mean stuff I don't put on the forum.

I practice moderation too.

I'm working on all my comments being just moderately disgusting and offensive, rather than full-on nasty.

See?....We have a lot in common!
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on May 18, 2010, 02:59:53 AM
bio-electric apprentice: What do you know from your personal knowledge that gives you reason to call me "pig"? I don't deny you have the "right" to do so, but don't you think you should have some kind of reason?

Judging from your posts on themadjewess and attempts: I reason you a pig with immoral intentions and a perverted obsession towards AsheDina.

The fact that you concentrate solely on AsheDina makes you a fraud, proofs your concern about the truth she spreads and will judge you evil in the eyes of any righteous being.

You're a spiritual troll.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 18, 2010, 03:18:49 AM
as I have said to others, any time you want to take this before a rav, I'm ready. I have no interest whatsoever in AsheDina except to the extent that her behaviour affecte my safety, and I will face you any time you wish.

Kahane-was-right, is this the kind of comment I have to expect from your allies?
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 18, 2010, 03:22:44 AM
 I just received an email from AsheDina saying she is going on vacation, so I shall not post more than this until she returns.
Whatever my disagreements with her may be over her political views, that has never been the reason I have taken issue with her on any of the sites she claims I have "stalked" her.

To begin with, the only reason I have gone to any sites is because she has sent me an email to which I cannot reply because she has me blocked, and in those emails she provides a link to those sites.

Secondly, when I arrive at  those sites, if her comment is simply a general one on political issues, I never post anything.

The ONLY time I ever post is when she makes a PERSONAL attack on a fellow Jew. Period. And  I don't mean a constructive criticism or even a harsh criticism of a policy. I mean making fun of a fellow Jew's NOSE or spreading lashon hara about alleged sexual issues that have no basis in fact.

To tell you the truth, the reason I started following her work is because when I first saw the way she was writing, I presumed that she was in fact not really a Jew. I still want a shyla on the halacha about her comments on her Mad Jewess blog.

But this is the way I prefer to discuss issues. If you look at her blog and tell me that halachically it is acceptable for her to suggest that fellow Jews who disagree with her politically be executed, I shall have to consider   that. If you give me talmudic (yes, I know, I didn't capitalize it; sue me) support for her making fun of her Jewish adversaries' phyisical appearance, I shall review it with my Rav.  If you tell me that there is halachic support for her to send me a link to another place she is writing, and then submitting IC-3's complaining I am stalking her when she refuses to accept private emails from   me, I shall review that as well.

With all the respect it is due, Massuh, I don't find your comment either valid or amusing. I would love to know if your mother would agree that if the nicest things you can say are lashon hara, it's still acceptable to say them because everything else you might say would be worse.  I shall not pursue that line of discussion, because I am trying to keep this conversation civil, and I suspect you have less interest in civility than you do in tactical victory.

My major criticism of AsheDina and her husband is that they believe that the ends justify the means,  and that they are happy to sacrifice the lives of  jews with whom they politically disagree.  I see it a lot here in the US. I am  not going to go any farther with this discussion today, because I don't want to be accused of spoiling their vacation.  I will be happy however, if AsheDina will reprint here any comments I made to her on her blog that she considers to be more inappropriate than those she has made about me. Keep in mind that for most of our interaction, I had the right to presume that nothing I wrote would be posted, and that the only person who would see what I wrote would be she. I made a pledge, which I have kept, not to post on her sites  as long as we had a correspondence going. I only went back to posting when both she and her husband blocked my emails to them while still sending  emails to me and at the same time making comments about me on their blogs.

As for my "Stalking" her by coming here, the ONLY reason I came here was because SHE sent me the link to something she posted here after telling me that I could not reply to her through email. 

Enough. Hag Semayach everyone, and enjoy your Shavuot.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on May 18, 2010, 03:38:56 AM

Kahane-was-right, is this the kind of comment I have to expect from your allies?

I'm not sure which comment you refer to.
That said, I can't speak for other people, only for myself.  Some people choose to use very strong language when they care very deeply about something.  I don't blame them for that.  As to halachic violations, I'm not an expert, but like I said, this site goes in the derech of Rabbi Kahane who certainly cursed traitor Jews like Yossi Sarid.  We can point you to a video clip on youtube where he shouts at a rally about "Yossi Sarid, Yemach Shemo."  And Chaim ben Pesach, who was a close student of Rabbi Kahane and runs our site, certainly speaks strongly against self-hating Jewish enemies.

Whether this particular comment or that particular comment was within the bounds of halacha, I don't know, and it is silly that you demand our site JTF to go and ask a rav about comments you object to.   Because not everyone here is religious and not everyone here is asking a rabbi about complicated halachic matters.  Many of our members (it might be the majority) on our English forum are not even Jewish.    I personally am willing to accept such a criticism about something I say personally since I do intend to follow the halacha.  But others on this site are not in that position.  I'm pretty sure that Ashe Dina is not asking a rav for advice on how to conduct her blog.   So it makes no sense to then demand that JTF finds halachic justification for every word she says, and quite frankly it makes no sense to ask her to pass it by a rabbi. 

Everyone has free will.   Hag Sameah.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on May 18, 2010, 03:42:36 AM
Also, you should know that people are speaking strongly against you because of harsh things you said to Ashe Dina, which she reported to us.  If you said she should be "cut off from the Jewish people," then I agree 100% with the one calling you a pig and with everyone else in this thread.   In that case you brought the insults on yourself.  Sincere teshuvah is required in such a case.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 18, 2010, 04:05:38 AM
before you judge me, I suggest you read the thread. I notice you do not comment at all about her published comments proposing that jews who disagree with her politically should be shot or the fact that she is trying to get be barred with IC-3's for simply following links that she sent me.
Perhaps you and I should correspond privately. If you do not have my personal email, let me know.
 But as I said earlier, I am not going to spoil their vacation.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on May 18, 2010, 10:14:25 AM
frumyid:  "With all the respect it is due, Massuh, I don't find your comment either valid or amusing."

OK.

I'll make an adjustment on your invoice.

However, I must admit I am a bit surprised, because Rabbi Schmendrik gave me his permission to use a computer.

I'll be flying home from Las Vegas today, and I'll ask him what I can do to help you with some of your problems.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 18, 2010, 10:50:51 AM
you might also consider exchanging your interest in comedy for one in Talmud. You'll find it far more rewarding for both yourself and those with whom you interact.  Given your propensity for insult it might also spare you the inevitable beating looming on your horizon if you fail to mature before you make the mistake of allowing your  faith in your immunity to retribution to prompt you to present this attitude in a forum where you are not protected by anonymity.


frumyid:  "With all the respect it is due, Massuh, I don't find your comment either valid or amusing."

OK.

I'll make an adjustment on your invoice.

However, I must admit I am a bit surprised, because Rabbi Schmendrik gave me his permission to use a computer.

I'll be flying home from Las Vegas today, and I'll ask him what I can do to help you with some of your problems.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 28, 2010, 10:55:45 AM
The most recent post on MadJewess' blog:

 I cannot believe this. I have sat for 2 damned days in a state of total shock. For people that were not living in NYC during 9/11...I know that you felt the pain, but being in NY during that event was horrific beyond ALL comprehension.  I, personally lived in NY at that time. The smoke didn't clear for 3 months. The memorials were an everyday occurance. Bagpipes, crying, screaming, pain so terrible that it is unimaginable. Sleep? I didn't sleep more than 3 hours a night after this atrocity that made my world shake. Every town I went through were flags and crosses, stars of David. Mortifying days of death and terror.

  They tried to tell us to stop crying, go on with your lives. How can a person 'go on with their lives' when you walk down the street in NYC and watch grown men wailing? This OBVIOUSLY does not bother Bloomberg, the dictator KIKE of NYC.

someone want to tell me how this is NOT lashon hara?
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Lisa on May 28, 2010, 11:01:41 AM
The most recent post on MadJewess' blog:

 I cannot believe this. I have sat for 2 damned days in a state of total shock. For people that were not living in NYC during 9/11...I know that you felt the pain, but being in NY during that event was horrific beyond ALL comprehension.  I, personally lived in NY at that time. The smoke didn't clear for 3 months. The memorials were an everyday occurance. Bagpipes, crying, screaming, pain so terrible that it is unimaginable. Sleep? I didn't sleep more than 3 hours a night after this atrocity that made my world shake. Every town I went through were flags and crosses, stars of David. Mortifying days of death and terror.

  They tried to tell us to stop crying, go on with your lives. How can a person 'go on with their lives' when you walk down the street in NYC and watch grown men wailing? This OBVIOUSLY does not bother Bloomberg, the dictator KIKE of NYC.

someone want to tell me how this is NOT lashon hara?

Frumyid, while you don't approve of the word kike, what AsheDina was trying to say is that Jews in political positions of power cannot be trusted.  Chaim Ben Pesach has said many times how he's against Jews taking any political positions except in Israel.  The fact of the matter is that Jews in political positions in America (and the rest of the Galut) go out of their way to prove how "objective" they are, and that they're not "Israel firsters."  In the process, they screw over their fellow Jews, as well as other Americans in the recent case of the mosque being built on Ground Zero.  Unfortunately, no matter how they harm their fellow Jews (or other Americans) they're still called Israel firsters. 

So if you don't agree with the word kike, why not tell her you don't like that word.  Otherwise, what I find more troubling is that you focus on that one word to the exclusion of everything else she writes, just to stalk her around the internet. 
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 28, 2010, 11:31:53 AM
Look, Lisa, with all due respect, how dare you accuse me of stalking MadJewess?

1. This is a direct quote from her blog.
2. She created this thread as a challenge to me to debate her.
3. I have NEVER stalked her anywhere, and I CHALLENGE you to provide ONE IOTA of evidence that I have.
4. This is the ONLY place I can make my observations, since she and her husband have blocked me from sending them email.

I object to the lashon hara that is being spread. If you can justify it, then please do. If you cannot, then I suggest that very possibly you may owe me an apology, since you have slandered me.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on May 28, 2010, 12:04:31 PM
Frumyid you kike, your perverse fixation on the word 'kike' is obscene and makes very clear where your intentions lie.
Chaim has called many people 'kikes', why are you not bothering him?

I think your perverted brain needs some tikun olam. The easy way would cost about one dollar.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: muman613 on May 28, 2010, 12:05:44 PM
I strongly rebuke Mr Blomberg for his callous treatment of the victims family, myself and my mother, and my step-father being three living victims of 9/11 because my brother, my mothers second son, was killed in the WTC on 9/11.

She has written, protested, and shed tears because the very site where my brother was killed is going to become as place where new terrorists will meet and plot the next attack. Our FBI knows full well what goes on in these mosques. You know that several of them have been infiltrated and are being monitored.

Mr Blomberg is a traitor to the Jewish people, and more importantly a traitor to the American people... I don't care if you like them apples, mr yid... But there comes a time when the people must speak up forcefully. I do not condone the use of the 'K' word, and have been outspoken on that issue.

But do not attempt to poison us against AsheDinah. She is a very sincere woman who believes, as most of us here, that America is on a path of self-destruction. It is wrong to build a Islamic recruiting center on the ashes of the World Trade Center, where my brothers blood was spilled. You do know the Mitzvah from our Torah which says. "Do not stand idle by your brothers blood"? To me this means I must actively resist the evil which is perpetuated by the killers of my brother, who murdered and destroyed in the name of Islam.

You know that Islam traditionally builds a mosque on the sites it has conquered. You know that the abomination on the temple mount was built in order to show Islamic dominance over the Jewish state. We should not allow America to be the next Islamic conquest as the Jihadists are currently plotting...

Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Lisa on May 28, 2010, 12:11:38 PM
Look, Lisa, with all due respect, how dare you accuse me of stalking MadJewess?

1. This is a direct quote from her blog.
2. She created this thread as a challenge to me to debate her.
3. I have NEVER stalked her anywhere, and I CHALLENGE you to provide ONE IOTA of evidence that I have.
4. This is the ONLY place I can make my observations, since she and her husband have blocked me from sending them email.

I object to the lashon hara that is being spread. If you can justify it, then please do. If you cannot, then I suggest that very possibly you may owe me an apology, since you have slandered me.

OK perhaps I used the wrong word.  I think harassment would be more appropriate in your case.  I would say that repeatedly threatening to have her cut off from the Jewish people, and constantly demanding approval from a rabbi for her blog posts comes pretty close to harassment. Also, I saw a comment on Nicholas Stix's blog which sounded like you criticizing her.  You wrote that you intend to follow her around the internet.  So there!
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 28, 2010, 12:23:56 PM
Frumyid you kike, your perverse fixation on the word 'kike' is obscene and makes very clear where your intentions lie.
Chaim has called many people 'kikes', why are you not bothering him?

I think your perverted brain needs some tikun olam. The easy way would cost about one dollar.

And you have some justification for a defacto breaking of your word in terms of the above violating the TOS? How can you be trusted when you cannot even abide by the TOS to which you agreed? You spew slander  at me because you can hide behind your anonymity. Such a brave man you are.


I strongly rebuke Mr Blomberg for his callous treatment of the victims family, myself and my mother, and my step-father being three living victims of 9/11 because my brother, my mothers second son, was killed in the WTC on 9/11.

She has written, protested, and shed tears because the very site where my brother was killed is going to become as place where new terrorists will meet and plot the next attack. Our FBI knows full well what goes on in these mosques. You know that several of them have been infiltrated and are being monitored.

Mr Blomberg is a traitor to the Jewish people, and more importantly a traitor to the American people... I don't care if you like them apples, mr yid... But there comes a time when the people must speak up forcefully. I do not condone the use of the 'K' word, and have been outspoken on that issue.

But do not attempt to poison us against AsheDinah. She is a very sincere woman who believes, as most of us here, that America is on a path of self-destruction. It is wrong to build a Islamic recruiting center on the ashes of the World Trade Center, where my brothers blood was spilled. You do know the Mitzvah from our Torah which says. "Do not stand idle by your brothers blood"? To me this means I must actively resist the evil which is perpetuated by the killers of my brother, who murdered and destroyed in the name of Islam.

You know that Islam traditionally builds a mosque on the sites it has conquered. You know that the abomination on the temple mount was built in order to show Islamic dominance over the Jewish state. We should not allow America to be the next Islamic conquest as the Jihadists are currently plotting...



I cannot believe the double standard you are maintaining. I know it's easy, since you are all hiding in the shadows, and I am the only one who has offered to appear with any of you at a din torah.  But really.

1. I am only here because AsheDina CREATED THIS THREAD AS A CHALLENGE TO ME. I am NOT in any way attempting to poison you against AsheDina. I am doing exactly what YOU Muman, indicated I should do when you quoted earlier the elements of Lashon Hara and its remedies. If anyone is trying to poison, it seems to be YOU trying to poison people against ME by twisting my words.

2. The mosque was not intended to show dominance over the Jewish state, because at the time it was built, there was effectively no Jewish State. Jerusalem was controlled prior to Moslem conquest by Byzantine Catholics and the last Jewish State was some 600 years in the past. 

3. Since you have sufffered a personal loss on 9/11, I shall not discuss the issue.

The most revealing issue is that in twisting my words, you are violating Hillel's first principle. Why don't you and AsheDina stop treating me in ways you would object to me treating you. Why don't you criticize Electric Apprentice for his slander? Why don't you agree to a Din Torah? or at the very least, why don't you abide by the TOS you signed when you signed on to this site?
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: syyuge on May 28, 2010, 12:34:37 PM
The mosque was intended to show dominance over the erstwhile Jewish state, because at the time it was built, there was effectively no Jewish State.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: syyuge on May 28, 2010, 12:41:53 PM
If a mosque near the blank of WTC is not an insignia of muslamic victory, then what else constitutes a victory. 
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: muman613 on May 28, 2010, 12:42:15 PM


I strongly rebuke Mr Blomberg for his callous treatment of the victims family, myself and my mother, and my step-father being three living victims of 9/11 because my brother, my mothers second son, was killed in the WTC on 9/11.

She has written, protested, and shed tears because the very site where my brother was killed is going to become as place where new terrorists will meet and plot the next attack. Our FBI knows full well what goes on in these mosques. You know that several of them have been infiltrated and are being monitored.

Mr Blomberg is a traitor to the Jewish people, and more importantly a traitor to the American people... I don't care if you like them apples, mr yid... But there comes a time when the people must speak up forcefully. I do not condone the use of the 'K' word, and have been outspoken on that issue.

But do not attempt to poison us against AsheDinah. She is a very sincere woman who believes, as most of us here, that America is on a path of self-destruction. It is wrong to build a Islamic recruiting center on the ashes of the World Trade Center, where my brothers blood was spilled. You do know the Mitzvah from our Torah which says. "Do not stand idle by your brothers blood"? To me this means I must actively resist the evil which is perpetuated by the killers of my brother, who murdered and destroyed in the name of Islam.

You know that Islam traditionally builds a mosque on the sites it has conquered. You know that the abomination on the temple mount was built in order to show Islamic dominance over the Jewish state. We should not allow America to be the next Islamic conquest as the Jihadists are currently plotting...



I cannot believe the double standard you are maintaining. I know it's easy, since you are all hiding in the shadows, and I am the only one who has offered to appear with any of you at a din torah.  But really.

1. I am only here because AsheDina CREATED THIS THREAD AS A CHALLENGE TO ME. I am NOT in any way attempting to poison you against AsheDina. I am doing exactly what YOU Muman, indicated I should do when you quoted earlier the elements of Lashon Hara and its remedies. If anyone is trying to poison, it seems to be YOU trying to poison people against ME by twisting my words.

2. The mosque was not intended to show dominance over the Jewish state, because at the time it was built, there was effectively no Jewish State. Jerusalem was controlled prior to Moslem conquest by Byzantine Catholics and the last Jewish State was some 600 years in the past. 

3. Since you have sufffered a personal loss on 9/11, I shall not discuss the issue.

The most revealing issue is that in twisting my words, you are violating Hillel's first principle. Why don't you and AsheDina stop treating me in ways you would object to me treating you. Why don't you criticize Electric Apprentice for his slander? Why don't you agree to a Din Torah? or at the very least, why don't you abide by the TOS you signed when you signed on to this site?

Mr Yid,

I have done nothing to you, I have not attacked you, nor have I said anything other than what I have experienced from you here at JTF.

The history of Islam building mosques at sites they conquered is well documented. Are you an apologist for the Muslims? You know that Islam forbade Jews from worshiping at the Kotel, don't you... Only after 1967 were Jews finally allowed to pray at the second most holy site in Judaism. There is nothing you can say to convince me that the Muslims are not trying to erase Judaism and Jewish presence in this world.

I do not speak Lashon Hara against you, as you seem to think. You seem to have a problem and you are not going to solve it by continuing your current path..
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Lisa on May 28, 2010, 12:43:17 PM
Since when is it the job of rabbis to monitor the blogosphere to make sure Jews don't get "out of line?"  

Also, since you keep harping on the topic of whether or not a rabbi would approve of our posts, I believe you already got your answer.  But I'll repeat it, since you didn't get it the first time.  We go by the teachings of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane (may G-d avenge his blood)!  The owner of this forum, Chaim Ben Pesach worked very closely with Rabbi Kahane.  

Furthermore, Orthodox Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, who is a brilliant Talmudic and Torah scholar, has also cursed other Jews such as then prime minister Ehud Barak and Meretz party chairman Yossi Sarid.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Ovadia_Yosef

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In March 2000, shortly before Purim, Rabbi Yosef verbally attacked then-Education Minister and Meretz Party chairman Yossi Sarid. Yosef referred to Sarid as "the 'Dark Side", a term synonymous in Jewish parlance with the unholy realm of existence. Rabbi Yosef continued, saying, "He is Satan, may his name and memory be erased. How long do we have to suffer this wicked man? God will extirpate him, the way He will extirpate Amalek. Cursed is Haman, cursed is Yossi Sarid. He will be uprooted from the seed of Israel. Just as revenge was wrought on Haman, so it will be wrought on him."



Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on May 28, 2010, 12:50:14 PM



:dance:   :dance:    You tell'em, Lisa!        ;D   :)
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 28, 2010, 01:00:37 PM


OK perhaps I used the wrong word.  I think harassment would be more appropriate in your case.  I would say that repeatedly threatening to have her cut off from the Jewish people, and constantly demanding approval from a rabbi for her blog posts comes pretty close to harassment. Also, I saw a comment on Nicholas Stix's blog which sounded like you criticizing her.  You wrote that you intend to follow her around the internet.  So there!

Talk about Lashon Hara! " I saw a comment on Nicholas Stix's blog which sounded like you criticizing her". Where do you get off accusing me of that. I have NEVER posted on that blog. There are NO posts with my name on that blog. There is only Chana's speculation that some "anonymous" was I. And that is a LIE.

My initial anger with AsheDina was fueled because when I first read her posts, I googled her and found the following link:

http://www.nme.com/awards/video/id/lzJu0WbmOcU/search/jtf

have any of you accessed it? Go ahead and see what it looks like. You tell me what you would think if the only information that you had about AsheDina were her angry statements condemning Jews and African Americans and this link. Might you not think that she was in fact not who she was claiming to be? That was why I challenged her to prove herself, and warned her of the consequences.  Then she opened this thread, and I realized that it was more than likely the connection with jtf.com was an error; although I wonder why no one has yet notified nme of their error.....

Since this thread has been instituted, I have not ONCE posted on her site. I have NOT ONCE posted at all while she was on vacation. And I have NEVER posted any argument with her other points of view. My only argument with her has been her slandering of her fellow Jews, like so many who post here have been calling Elena Kagan a lesbian even though there is not ONE piece of probative evidence to that effect.



Since when is it the job of rabbis to monitor the blogosphere to make sure Jews don't get "out of line?"  

Also, since you keep harping on the topic of whether or not a rabbi would approve of our posts, I believe you already got your answer.  But I'll repeat it, since you didn't get it the first time.  We go by the teachings of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane (may G-d avenge his blood)!  The owner of this forum, Chaim Ben Pesach worked very closely with Rabbi Kahane.  

Furthermore, Orthodox Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, who is a brilliant Talmudic and Torah scholar, has also cursed other Jews such as then prime minister Ehud Barak and Meretz party chairman Yossi Sarid.  




Once again, you twist things to suit you.
1. you don't respond at all to the issues I mention.
2. I never said that rabbis should monitor the web. I asked AsheDina to tell me the name of ONE rabbi who approves of her behavior.
3. THere is not ONE halachic authority in history who will agree that your claim to be followers of Reb Meir is the same as a rabbi approving of your posts. Xtians all say they are followers of Torah to the extent that their Testament is a fulfillment of ours. That's just .......... silly.
4. The fact that Reb Yosef made comments does not give you the right to make them without approval from a posek with equal recognition.

Why don't you think how YOU would feel if someone talked to YOU the way you talk to me? Why don't you give me the consideration you demand for yourself?


Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on May 28, 2010, 01:03:12 PM
Henceforth, he should be addressed as Mamzer Bloomberg !

Or at the very least, DrekMamzer Bloomberg !


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Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: mord on May 28, 2010, 01:03:16 PM
Mr. FrumYid  you know nothing of Islam read up on the Imam who has close ties to the Muslim brotherhood yes his father was high ranking leader .Have you ever read he's writing in Arabic ? Do you you know when they build a mosque next to a famous place it means ownership of it for Islam.P.S. when the attempted bombing of Times square occurred Blommberg  was quick to say it's probably some white militia group
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: mord on May 28, 2010, 01:15:03 PM
The imam of the new mosque speaks in Arabic i don't believe in inter religious dialogue 


http://www.rights4all.net/?p=67 





The Headline Imam of the Great mosque in N.Y. i do not believe in dialogue 





What Muslims say about Rifqa Barry this is in English


http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f38/riqfa-bary-apostate-has-cancer-now-loool-35579/

Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Lisa on May 28, 2010, 01:15:18 PM
Quote
Once again, you twist things to suit you.
1. you don't respond at all to the issues I mention.
2. I never said that rabbis should monitor the web. I asked AsheDina to tell me the name of ONE rabbi who approves of her behavior.
3. THere is not ONE halachic authority in history who will agree that your claim to be followers of Reb Meir is the same as a rabbi approving of your posts. Xtians all say they are followers of Torah to the extent that their Testament is a fulfillment of ours. That's just .......... silly.
4. The fact that Reb Yosef made comments does not give you the right to make them without approval from a posek with equal recognition.

Why don't you think how YOU would feel if someone talked to YOU the way you talk to me? Why don't you give me the consideration you demand for yourself?

Once again I ask you, why is it the job of a rabbi to approve what some Jewish woman writes on her blog?  We're all entitled to our opinions.  Are you saying Jewish people are not allowed to express strong opinions unless they're pre-approved by some rabbi?  That's news to me.  Jews have many opinions on different things.  Are you saying rabbis should monitor what every Jews says in writing?  
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on May 28, 2010, 01:16:01 PM
Frumyid, you are such a Woos!     :P

Yet, such as you deserves a margin of pity.     :'(

Therefore, before I simply 'write you off' as a basketcase,  I am personally willing to see you go 10 rounds in the ring with our beloved Halachic Master, Authority on Ancient Aramaic, and Jewish Cagefighter, none other than the esteemed Rabbi Schmendrik.

As soon as I can get it worked out with the judge for him to be let out on work release for three hours we'll set up the match.

Don't even think about money!  The T-Shirt concessions are mine !    >:(



Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: syyuge on May 28, 2010, 01:29:33 PM
 :nuke: :camel: (hubc) mami orez dnuorg... 
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 28, 2010, 01:32:04 PM
Mr. FrumYid  you know nothing of Islam read up on the Imam who has close ties to the Muslim brotherhood yes his father was high ranking leader .Have you ever read he's writing in Arabic ? Do you you know when they build a mosque next to a famous place it means ownership of it for Islam.P.S. when the attempted bombing of Times square occurred Blommberg  was quick to say it's probably some white militia group

I said NOTHING aoout ISLAM. I take NO position. you're not even TRYING to understand my argument.This is STRICTLY a matter of lashon hara.


 
Frumyid, you are such a Woos!     :P

Yet, such as you deserves a margin of pity.     :'(

Therefore, before I simply 'write you off' as a basketcase,  I am personally willing to see you go 10 rounds in the ring with our beloved Halachic Master, Authority on Ancient Aramaic, and Jewish Cagefighter, none other than the esteemed Rabbi Schmendrik.

As soon as I can get it worked out with the judge for him to be let out on work release for three hours we'll set up the match.

Don't even think about money!  The T-Shirt concessions are mine !    >:(



look, pal, it's obvious that you enjoy the idea that what you're saying annoys me. I would guess from your dedication that you probably want it to hurt me. That makes you a sadist.  Sooner or later, your behavior is going to hurt someone you love. Maybe then you'll learn. Until then, enjoy yourself. All you are doing is creating a milieu in which good people, people YOU think are good, are going to get hurt and everyone will know it is because of you.

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Once again, you twist things to suit you.
1. you don't respond at all to the issues I mention.
2. I never said that rabbis should monitor the web. I asked AsheDina to tell me the name of ONE rabbi who approves of her behavior.
3. THere is not ONE halachic authority in history who will agree that your claim to be followers of Reb Meir is the same as a rabbi approving of your posts. Xtians all say they are followers of Torah to the extent that their Testament is a fulfillment of ours. That's just .......... silly.
4. The fact that Reb Yosef made comments does not give you the right to make them without approval from a posek with equal recognition.

Why don't you think how YOU would feel if someone talked to YOU the way you talk to me? Why don't you give me the consideration you demand for yourself?

Once again I ask you, why is it the job of a rabbi to approve what some Jewish woman writes on her blog?  We're all entitled to our opinions.  Are you saying Jewish people are not allowed to express strong opinions unless they're pre-approved by some rabbi?  That's news to me.  Jews have many opinions on different things.  Are you saying rabbis should monitor what every Jews says in writing?  

Once again, you twist things to suit you.
1. you don't respond at all to the issues I mention.
2. I never said that rabbis should monitor the web. I asked AsheDina to tell me the name of ONE rabbi who approves of her behavior.
3. THere is not ONE halachic authority in history who will agree that your claim to be followers of Reb Meir is the same as a rabbi approving of your posts. Xtians all say they are followers of Torah to the extent that their Testament is a fulfillment of ours. That's just .......... silly.
4. The fact that Reb Yosef made comments does not give you the right to make them without approval from a posek with equal recognition.

Why don't you think how YOU would feel if someone talked to YOU the way you talk to me? Why don't you give me the consideration you demand for yourself?
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on May 28, 2010, 01:37:39 PM
And you have some justification for a defacto breaking of your word in terms of the above violating the TOS? How can you be trusted when you cannot even abide by the TOS to which you agreed? You spew slander  at me because you can hide behind your anonymity. Such a brave man you are.

Calling you a kike is slander? I call you what you are. You ask for reason but you cannot reason yourself, so everything I say must be true.
I describe your behaviour. You're so brave you play this little game of hiding behind words while neglecting the real world you are too weak to face. You fail to refute my words. You cannot deny your own perverted behaviour. You're a farce.
I've had my face in two major Dutch newspapers this year.
I'll even be seen worldwide in a documentary this year 'slandering' muslims, thus ensuring a fatwa on my head.People on this forum know what I look like.
I won't see you posting your ugly perverted face on this forum. And it's a good thing too.

Your obscene mind is a sickening atrocity. It is kikes like you that cause anti-semitism. You're as frum as bill clinton yemach shemo vezichro and madeleine albright yemach shema vezichra in a mosque praying to alla.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: mord on May 28, 2010, 01:40:41 PM
And you have some justification for a defacto breaking of your word in terms of the above violating the TOS? How can you be trusted when you cannot even abide by the TOS to which you agreed? You spew slander  at me because you can hide behind your anonymity. Such a brave man you are.

Calling you a kike is slander? I call you what you are. You ask for reason but you cannot reason yourself, so everything I say must be true.
I describe your behaviour. You're so brave you play this little game of hiding behind words while neglecting the real world you are too weak to face. You fail to refute my words. You cannot deny your own perverted behaviour. You're a farce.
I've had my face in two major Dutch newspapers this year.
I'll even be seen worldwide in a documentary this year 'slandering' muslims, thus ensuring a fatwa on my head.People on this forum know what I look like.
I won't see you posting your ugly perverted face on this forum. And it's a good thing too.

Your obscene mind is a sickening atrocity. It is kikes like you that cause anti-semitism. You're as frum as bill clinton yemach shemo vezichro and madeleine albright yemach shema vezichra in a mosque praying to alla.
THIS IS TRUE
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: muman613 on May 28, 2010, 01:48:28 PM
I will be a little bit more moderate in my response to mr yid here...

If you have truly good intentions and want to help AsheDina by making her understand what Lashon Hara is then I support you. But your method is surely suspect. I don't make judgment on you, but I am able to make a decision based on my experience.

JTF is an organization which is a little rough at times. I do not join in the cursing of Jews unless I feel their misdeeds rise to the level of making them known. People who are in positions of power, and positions of possibly destroying the existing Jewish nation, should be publicly shamed. This is akin to a marriage prospect who is unable to have children and this fact is kept from the marriage partner. There are times when a Jew is obliged to point out the negative qualities of another.

I am greatly saddened by Mr. Bloombergs decisions... He does a great chillul Hashem for not standing up for the poor families which are still, to this day, mourning what happened 10 years ago.

I am sorry if you are not accepted here Mr yid... But this is because you are confrontational with one of our good members. Although AsheDina is not as learned and as observant as you seem to be, that is no reason to go on and on about it.

If I could make peace between all Jews I would do so... You know Moses understood why we spent 210 years in bondage in Egypt when Datan and Aviram spilled the beans concerning Moshes smiting the taskmaster... Lashon Hara between good Jews is a very terrible sin. But to discuss politicians and leaders who are obviously leaning against the Jewish people is a mitzvah...

PS: This Shabbat Parasha has the story of the uprising in the desert for meat... The sages teach that this too was Datan and Aviram...

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http://www.tfdixie.com/parshat/tazria/008.htm
The Passover story, in many ways, illustrates how slander and haughtiness go hand in hand. After Moses slays the oppressive Egyptian taskmaster, Datan and Aviram (two dedicated enemies of Moses) threaten to tell Pharaoh of the event. (Please see Exodus 2:11-14 for more details on this episode.) Moses then states, "Indeed, the matter is known" (ibid). On a simple level, Moses is just stating that his murderous act has been discovered. The Midrash (quoted by Rashi), reading beneath the surface, understands the verse as saying, "Indeed, now it is known why the Jewish people, of all the other nations, deserved such harsh labor. It is because they have in their midst people who are capable of speaking such evil and slander. The evil speech which emanated from the mouths of the Jewish people was a reason (if not the main reason) for our enslavement in Egypt."

Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on May 28, 2010, 02:06:41 PM
frumyid:  "look, pal, it's obvious that you enjoy the idea that what you're saying annoys me. I would guess from your dedication that you probably want it to hurt me. That makes you a sadist.  Sooner or later, your behavior is going to hurt someone you love. Maybe then you'll learn. Until then, enjoy yourself. All you are doing is creating a milieu in which good people, people YOU think are good, are going to get hurt and everyone will know it is because of you."


I will accept your answer as meaning "YES!"  "I AGREE TO GO THE FULL TEN ROUNDS IN A CAGE FIGHT WITH RABBI SCHMENDRIK!"

Thanks, frumyid!

I'll start scheduling it right away.      :P
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 28, 2010, 02:09:26 PM
And you have some justification for a defacto breaking of your word in terms of the above violating the TOS? How can you be trusted when you cannot even abide by the TOS to which you agreed? You spew slander  at me because you can hide behind your anonymity. Such a brave man you are.

Calling you a kike is slander? I call you what you are. You ask for reason but you cannot reason yourself, so everything I say must be true.
I describe your behaviour. You're so brave you play this little game of hiding behind words while neglecting the real world you are too weak to face. You fail to refute my words. You cannot deny your own perverted behaviour. You're a farce.
I've had my face in two major Dutch newspapers this year.
I'll even be seen worldwide in a documentary this year 'slandering' muslims, thus ensuring a fatwa on my head.People on this forum know what I look like.
I won't see you posting your ugly perverted face on this forum. And it's a good thing too.

Your obscene mind is a sickening atrocity. It is kikes like you that cause anti-semitism. You're as frum as bill clinton yemach shemo vezichro and madeleine albright yemach shema vezichra in a mosque praying to alla.

any din torah, anywhere pal. I'll tell you what. My yahoo IM is [email protected]. Add me, and then we can go cam to cam and voice to voice. I'm frankly sick of children like you who think you can get away with pottymouth kindergarten bully tactics.

And that challenge is for anyone.  Come cam to cam with me.  I'm waiting.

And I notice that NONE of you will confront your failure to abide by the TOS. That's breaking your word.

Mr Yid,

I have done nothing to you, I have not attacked you, nor have I said anything other than what I have experienced from you here at JTF.

The history of Islam building mosques at sites they conquered is well documented. Are you an apologist for the Muslims? You know that Islam forbade Jews from worshiping at the Kotel, don't you... Only after 1967 were Jews finally allowed to pray at the second most holy site in Judaism. There is nothing you can say to convince me that the Muslims are not trying to erase Judaism and Jewish presence in this world.

I do not speak Lashon Hara against you, as you seem to think. You seem to have a problem and you are not going to solve it by continuing your current path..


Again, you twist my words. I simply pointed out to you that your ONE comment was in error. No apologist for anyone. You were just plain WRONG about that particular incidents. As you are about the Kotel, because that was only after 48 and was political, not religious. Ask anyone with family who lived in Jerusalem before independence. It was a Jordanian, not a Muslim decision. All I am doing is giving you facts.



I will accept your answer as meaning "YES!"  "I AGREE TO GO THE FULL TEN ROUNDS IN A CAGE FIGHT WITH RABBI SCHMENDRIK!"

Thanks, frumyid!

I'll start scheduling it right away.      :P

don't give up your day job. and my offer goes for you too, any time you want to go cam to cam, add me on your IM. Silly boy.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: muman613 on May 28, 2010, 02:19:42 PM
mr Yid,

There is no question that Jewish worship was not allowed at the Kotel from 1948-1967 when it was liberated during that war. Prior to this the Jordanians did not allow Jews to daven there. Do you not believe this? It is a fact.

When the Muslims took over in Jerusalem they built their shrine, the Al-Aqsa shrine, on the site which we believe is where Jacob rested his head on the stone, the spot which we believe to be the foundation of the world. The reason they did this is because it is a tenet of Islam to conquer a land, to destroy its holy sites, and to build a Muslim shrine or mosque on the site. They do this all around the world. Do you not believe me about this too?

It seems to me that you are making excuses for the Muslims. Do you have anything to say about these enemies of the Jewish people?

Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: muman613 on May 28, 2010, 02:21:25 PM
http://www.aish.com/jw/j/48965971.html


Magic of Shavuot 1967
by Larry Domnitch

200,000 Jews converged on the Western Wall that day.

Over the last two millennia, Jews have visited Jerusalem in honor of the festivals, in lieu of the biblically-ordained pilgrimages. On the holiday of Shavuot, there was also the custom to visit the purported grave of King David on Mount Zion, since the date of his death was on Shavuot.

When Shavuot arrived in 1948, it was a month after the establishment of the State of Israel, and Jews could no longer continue to make the pilgrimage to the Western Wall. The Jordanians, who occupied the eastern half of the city since the War of Independence, blocked all rights of passage to the Jews. However, the pilgrimage to King David's tomb on nearby Mount Zion, located on the Israeli side of divided Jerusalem, continued. Over the next 19 years, crowds made their way to Mount Zion, where across barbed wire they could view the Old City and the Temple Mount.

On the morning of Shavuot, June 15, 1967 -- just six days after the liberation of the Old City of Jerusalem in the Six Day War -- the Old City was officially opened to the Israeli public. (The army wanted to be sure there were no landmines or snipers still in the Old City.) For the first time in almost 2,000 years, masses of Jews could visit the Western Wall and walk through the cherished streets of Judaism's capital city as members of the sovereign Jewish nation. Each Jew who ventured to the Western Wall on that unforgettable day was realizing their ancestors' dreams over the millennia. It was one of those rare, euphoric moments in history.

From the late hours of the night, thousands of Jerusalem residents streamed toward the Zion gate, eagerly awaiting entry into the Old City. At 4 a.m., the accumulating crowds were finally allowed to enter the area of the Western Wall. As the sun continued to rise, there was a steady flow of thousands who made their way to the Old City.

The Jerusalem Post described the epic scene:

    Every section of the population was represented. Kibbutz members and soldiers rubbing shoulders with Neturei Karta. Mothers came with children in prams, and old men trudged steeply up Mount Zion, supported by youngsters on either side, to see the wall of the Temple before the end of their days.

    Some wept, but most faces were wreathed in smiles. For 13 continuous hours, a colorful variety of all peoples trudged along in perfect order, stepping patiently when told to do so at each of six successive barriers set up by the police to regulate the flow.

In total, 200,000 visited the Western Wall that day. It was the first pilgrimage, en masse, of Jews to Jewish-controlled Jerusalem on a Jewish festival in 2,000 years, since the pilgrimages for the festivals in Temple times.

An eyewitness described the moment:

    "I've never known so electric an atmosphere before or since. Wherever we stopped, we began to dance. Holding aloft Torah scrolls we swayed and danced and sang at the tops of our voices. So many of the Psalms and songs are about Jerusalem and Zion, and the words reached into us a new life. As the sky lightened, we reached the Zion gate. Still singing and dancing, we poured into the narrow alleyways beyond."

        On Shavuot, 3,279 years earlier, the Israelites stood at Mount Sinai and forged a unique relationship with their Creator. On the day of Shavuot following Israel's amazing victory in the Six Day War, multitudes ascended to the Western Wall, and they, too, felt the eternal magic of this moment. After all, "For from Zion shall come forth Torah, and the Word of God from Jerusalem."

        This "pedestrian pilgrimage" has now become a recurring tradition. And on this year as well, early on Shavuot morning – after a full night of Torah learning -- the streets of Jerusalem will be filled with tens of thousands of Jews, walking with and anticipation and awe to the Western Wall.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Lisa on May 28, 2010, 02:22:26 PM
Frumyid wrote:

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Talk about Lashon Hara! " I saw a comment on Nicholas Stix's blog which sounded like you criticizing her". Where do you get off accusing me of that. I have NEVER posted on that blog. There are NO posts with my name on that blog. There is only Chana's speculation that some "anonymous" was I. And that is a LIE.

I just though of something.  I find it very suspicious that while on the one hand you deny having commented on Nicholas Stix's blog, you know exactly what I'm referring to.  Seriously now, how would you know who Nicholas Stix is, or whether or not he was writing about AsheDina unless you made a conscious decision to follow her around the internet.  I take back what I said earlier.  You have been stalking her!
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on May 28, 2010, 02:24:52 PM
I don't have a cam. Why don't you refute my description of you?

You're a real leftist: crying about the form to hide the fact that you can't refute the substance.

That's 3 times in a row, pervert.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Lisa on May 28, 2010, 02:27:55 PM
I don't have a cam. Why don't you refute my description of you?

You're a real leftist: crying about the form to hide the fact that you can't refute the substance.

That's 3 times in a row, pervert.

Nice try.  But Bio-Electric Apprentice is not Jewish.  So he's not bound by any kind of rabbinical court. 
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: muman613 on May 28, 2010, 02:28:21 PM
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/the_rise_of_islam/

MOHAMMED AND THE JEWS

The one problem Mohammed had faced in Medina - and elsewhere - were the Jews, who were not prepared to accept his Arab version of Judaism. In the same way they had previously rejected Christianity, so too did they reject Islam.

It must be pointed out, however, that Jews had a lot less problems with Islam than they did with Christianity. ... This made the two peoples half-brothers. But the chief disagreement came on the issue whether Mohammed was indeed the last of the prophets to be sent by God and that his word was the final revelation. The Jews found the idea unthinkable since prophecy had end long before and the words of the Torah could never be superseded.

Their rejection was painful to Mohammed who reacted with hostility toward the Jews and took great pains to pointedly separate Islam from its Jewish roots. The holiest day of the week was changed to Friday; direction of prayers was changed from Jerusalem to Mecca; most of the Jewish dietary laws were excised from Islam with the exception of the slaughter rituals, prohibition on pork and consumption of blood.

Further, Mohammad maintained that the Jews had distorted their own Bible: Abraham did not attempt to sacrifice Isaac to God at Mount Moriah, one of the hills of Jerusalem; rather, Abraham took Ishmael to Mecca, where he offered to sacrifice him to Allah on the Black Stone of Kaaba.

If Jews had previously rebuffed Mohammed’s claims to prophecy, they now openly sneered at what they considered a complete fabrication. This only made things worse. Mohammed’s anger and curses against the Jews are recorded in the Koran:

    * “And humiliation and wretchedness were stamped upon them, and they were visited with wrath from God.” (Sura 2:61)
    * “Of all men you will certainly find the Jews ... to be the most intense in hatred of those who believe.” (Sura 5:85)
    * “Vendors are they of error and are desirous that you go astray from the way ... But God has cursed them for their unbelief.” (Sura 4:48-49)

Mohammed’s anger toward the Jews was not just rhetoric. The period from 622 C.E. until Mohammed’s death in 632 C.E. was punctuated by periods of intense anti-Jewish violence as he systematically expelled, plundered and even slaughtered the Jewish tribes of Nadir, Khaybar and Banu Qurayza who lived in and around Mecca. Mohammed’s victories of the Jews are discussed in great length in Sura 59 of the Koran.

After Mohammed’s death some of his followers would interpret such statements as license to purge the world of the Jews. Other Muslims would concentrate more on the commonality of heritage and belief that Mohammed had also emphasized, and they would treat the Jews a bit better . (We will see how in future chapters of this series.)
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on May 28, 2010, 02:35:24 PM
He deleted his latest comment.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 28, 2010, 02:35:52 PM
I don't have a cam. Why don't you refute my description of you?

You're a real leftist: crying about the form to hide the fact that you can't refute the substance.

That's 3 times in a row, pervert.

Don't be specious sonny. You can't prove a negative. You're just blowing smoke and the only place you can do it is on a site where you don't have to worry about committing anything but your poison.  You don't have a cam? fine. then let's just voice to voice. Same thing.You can make all the inane insulting comments you want, but you won't DARE take it to any objective third party, as I have offered. It's easy as long as you can avoid taking responsibility. You have no investment in your comments. They cost you nothing and you risk nothing because you only make them in the shelter of your allies. Come to Yeshivat Dvar Yerushalaem. Come to New Square. Or just come to Yahoo. I'm ready to meet you face to face in front of any rabbi or Dayan you want to name.
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/the_rise_of_islam/

MOHAMMED AND THE JEWS

The one problem Mohammed had faced in Medina - and elsewhere - were the Jews, who were not prepared to accept his Arab version of Judaism. In the same way they had previously rejected Christianity, so too did they reject Islam.

It must be pointed out, however, that Jews had a lot less problems with Islam than they did with Christianity. ... This made the two peoples half-brothers. But the chief disagreement came on the issue whether Mohammed was indeed the last of the prophets to be sent by G-d and that his word was the final revelation. The Jews found the idea unthinkable since prophecy had end long before and the words of the Torah could never be superseded.

Their rejection was painful to Mohammed who reacted with hostility toward the Jews and took great pains to pointedly separate Islam from its Jewish roots. The holiest day of the week was changed to Friday; direction of prayers was changed from Jerusalem to Mecca; most of the Jewish dietary laws were excised from Islam with the exception of the slaughter rituals, prohibition on pork and consumption of blood.

Further, Mohammad maintained that the Jews had distorted their own Bible: Abraham did not attempt to sacrifice Isaac to G-d at Mount Moriah, one of the hills of Jerusalem; rather, Abraham took Ishmael to Mecca, where he offered to sacrifice him to Allah on the Black Stone of Kaaba.

If Jews had previously rebuffed Mohammed’s claims to prophecy, they now openly sneered at what they considered a complete fabrication. This only made things worse. Mohammed’s anger and curses against the Jews are recorded in the Koran:

    * “And humiliation and wretchedness were stamped upon them, and they were visited with wrath from G-d.” (Sura 2:61)
    * “Of all men you will certainly find the Jews ... to be the most intense in hatred of those who believe.” (Sura 5:85)
    * “Vendors are they of error and are desirous that you go astray from the way ... But G-d has cursed them for their unbelief.” (Sura 4:48-49)

Mohammed’s anger toward the Jews was not just rhetoric. The period from 622 C.E. until Mohammed’s death in 632 C.E. was punctuated by periods of intense anti-Jewish violence as he systematically expelled, plundered and even slaughtered the Jewish tribes of Nadir, Khaybar and Banu Qurayza who lived in and around Mecca. Mohammed’s victories of the Jews are discussed in great length in Sura 59 of the Koran.

After Mohammed’s death some of his followers would interpret such statements as license to purge the world of the Jews. Other Muslims would concentrate more on the commonality of heritage and belief that Mohammed had also emphasized, and they would treat the Jews a bit better . (We will see how in future chapters of this series.)

ok fine, what does that have to do with anything? IT has NOTHING to do with either of the statements you made.


Nice try.  But Bio-Electric Apprentice is not Jewish.  So he's not bound by any kind of rabbinical court. 

so fine, make it a civil court. make it an arbitration. you are all sitting there in the shadows, salivating over how you must be drawing blood. The fact is that none of you dare choose an objective forum. And while you're at it, Lisa, why don't you try to respond to any of my challenges? Is it possibly because you know I'm telling the truth? you're just another person who is perfectly happy to make any comments you want as long as you don't have to stake anything on it. Talk is cheap, kid. put your money where your mouth is.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on May 28, 2010, 02:44:31 PM
Why don't you refute what I call you? Because you can't?
You just keep crying about the form without addressing the substance.
The substance of your behaviour is perverted. This is not an insult. It is the irrefutable reality.
Phony frum is worse than...
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 28, 2010, 02:56:33 PM
Why don't you refute what I call you? Because you can't?
You just keep crying about the form without addressing the substance.
The substance of your behaviour is perverted. This is not an insult. It is the irrefutable reality.
Phony frum is worse than...

again, all you do is make the same specious claim over and over.... I don't refute what you call me because there's no rational basis for the claim in the first place, which you know, because if you had any you'd spell it out.

 You call me perverted. Define "perverted" and then apply that definition to any of the evidence you have of my behavior. You don't even mention the interesting jtf.com link. you don't mention anything even approaching probity.

 I'm ready to stand before a judge. You aren't. That's the irrefutable reality.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Lisa on May 28, 2010, 03:01:31 PM
Frumyid, go ahead and try and sue us in civil court.  Even the most liberal of judges will laugh in your face and throw your supposed lawsuit out of court.  And while you're at it, go ahead and report us to your rabbi.  I really don't give a rodent's posterior.  You clearly have too much time on your hands. 
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on May 28, 2010, 03:09:55 PM
Why don't you refute what I call you? Because you can't?
You just keep crying about the form without addressing the substance.
The substance of your behaviour is perverted. This is not an insult. It is the irrefutable reality.
Phony frum is worse than...

again, all you do is make the same specious claim over and over.... I don't refute what you call me because there's no rational basis for the claim in the first place, which you know, because if you had any you'd spell it out.

 You call me perverted. Define "perverted" and then apply that definition to any of the evidence you have of my behavior. You don't even mention the interesting jtf.com link. you don't mention anything even approaching probity.

 I'm ready to stand before a judge. You aren't. That's the irrefutable reality.

Can you even read? You are obscenely pervertedly obsessed with AsheDina using the word 'kike', because, apparently, that is your lives mission/escape reality in your frum galut world.

You do not chase other people using the word 'kike'. This proofs your farce.

You also do not debate my 'accusations' towards you.
You are pathetically spewing out ramblings of grandeur while remaining to hide behind your little wordgame and not replying to substance.

You're just a troll. In this world and the next.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Moshe92 on May 28, 2010, 03:17:26 PM
Frum Yid, who are all the Rabbis who agree with the ridiculous things you are saying? You keep on insulting Ashe Dina because you claim that no Rabbis support her.

By the way, regarding what you said earlier about Rabbi Riskin, you should go ask Rabbi Ovadia Yosef and Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu what they think about Elena Kagan, if they even know who she is. I doubt they'll have anything positive to say. Rabbi Riskin is not nearly as important as them.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 28, 2010, 03:29:04 PM
Frumyid, go ahead and try and sue us in civil court.  Even the most liberal of judges will laugh in your face and throw your supposed lawsuit out of court.  And while you're at it, go ahead and report us to your rabbi.  I really don't give a rodent's posterior.  You clearly have too much time on your hands. 

Who said anything about suing you? Are you intentionally misrepresenting my comments in order to annoy me, or can't you understand what I'm saying. I'm saying that you won't appear before any objective tribunal, because you are the one who knows you don't have a leg to stand on. I don't have to take you to court. And it's obvious you don't care about any living rabbi, but that makes sense, because you know that no rabbi would approve of your behavior. You just like to hide in the shadows and say slanderous things about your fellow Jews, and the last thing you want is to be told by a rabbi you're wrong, which is what ANY rabbi would tell you. you're just sadists. you like to hurt people.

My offer stands. Name the objective third party. You won't because you know you're wrong, and the only safe place to spew your hate is in this forum.

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Can you even read? You are obscenely pervertedly obsessed with AsheDina using the word 'kike', because, apparently, that is your lives mission/escape reality in your frum galut world.

You do not chase other people using the word 'kike'. This proofs your farce.

You also do not debate my 'accusations' towards you.
You are pathetically spewing out ramblings of grandeur while remaining to hide behind your little wordgame and not replying to substance.

You're just a troll. In this world and the next.
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again there is no substance to what you've just written. it's ipse dixit and post hoc proptre  hoc.  You just keep making the same generalizations and define by example. It's sophomoric speciousness.

And the proof of that is that you are absolutely afraid to take this to a din torah. you can say whatever you want here, but there is no scholar in the world with a reputation worth risking who will side with you. You can't even name a rabbi you can call on to approve your statements. You're just a bully and a sadist.

As for your comments about my obsession with AsheDina, it was SHE who challenged me to come here. If I hadn't come, you'd be calling me names behind my back and saying I'm a coward for not responding.

And I would chase anyone using the word "kike". I would chase anyone using such loshan hara. I chase The J Street people all the time telling them that they're losers because they attack fellow jews. The big difference between you and me is that I'm ready to take this public, and you can't handle the sunlight.

Frum Yid, who are all the Rabbis who agree with the ridiculous things you are saying? You keep on insulting Ashe Dina because you claim that no Rabbis support her.

By the way, regarding what you said earlier about Rabbi Riskin, you should go ask Rabbi Ovadia Yosef and Rabbi Mordechai Eliyahu what they think about Elena Kagan, if they even know who she is. I doubt they'll have anything positive to say. Rabbi Riskin is not nearly as important as them.

The Chofetz Chaim Foundation supports me. Rabbi Chaim Zev Bomzer supports me. Rabbi Baruch Hurvitz supports me. The Rabbinical Council of America supports me. All you have to do is agree to a din torah and you'll see who supports me. And the point isn't whether they have anything positive to say about Professor Kagan, it's whether they would approve of fellow Jews spreading ugly rumors about her sexuality with NO PROOF WHATSOEVER.

Once again, all you are doing is blowing smoke. Your arguments are simple ad hominem.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Lisa on May 28, 2010, 03:34:46 PM
Listen you little squirt.  None of us here have done anything wrong.  So just because you come here whining about lashon hara.  Don't think for a minute that you can guilt us into appearing before some Din Torah.  We won't do it because we're more than entitled to our opinions.  So get that through your thick head. 
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Moshe92 on May 28, 2010, 03:36:41 PM
Have you personally consulted with the people you mentioned?
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on May 28, 2010, 03:40:54 PM
Phony frum, you are obsessed with AsheDina.
You did not denounce this fact. You are a complete failure at debating since you do not refute a single thing I say.
I don't need a din Torah if you cannot even defend yourself on this forum.

You're just a sad pickle-nosed kike. A perverted kike.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: muman613 on May 28, 2010, 03:43:04 PM
Mr Yid,

If you spent 1/4 of the time you spend bickering about Lashon Hara to battle against the enemies of the Jewish people then maybe you would have a platform to stand on. Instead you come here trying to pit one Jew against another. Please go back to where you come from... You do nothing but embarass yourself.

Nobody here agrees with you. If you want go whine to your Rabbi about it...

I am beginning to think you are just a nuisance...
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on May 28, 2010, 03:43:19 PM
frumyid:  "Once again, all you are doing is blowing smoke. "

Speaking of "blowing smoke" --

I'll agree to meet you at a Din Torah, if you'll agree to first meet me at an Opium den!


                                                                   
:::D

Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 28, 2010, 03:53:08 PM
The opium better be of higher quality than your humour. IF you can guarantee that, you're on. :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: muman613 on May 28, 2010, 03:57:15 PM
The opium better be of higher quality than your humour. IF you can guarantee that, you're on. :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

Thats not so nice... Massah is very funny, most of the time...

Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 28, 2010, 04:08:40 PM
 
Listen you little squirt.  None of us here have done anything wrong.  So just because you come here whining about lashon hara.  Don't think for a minute that you can guilt us into appearing before some Din Torah.  We won't do it because we're more than entitled to our opinions.  So get that through your thick head. 

easy for you to say from the comfort of the shadows. You won't go to a beis din because you KNOW you couldn't win. You're no more entitled to slander fellow jews than you are to proclaim Yuskah the Maschiach. Either you're a Jew or you're a JINO, and that's what a beis din is for.

and any time you want to stand face to face with me and call me a squirt, let me know. I won't be holding my breath. You have to vent your bile here because you'd never dare say things like this to my face. Talk about someone with too much time on their hands....

Have you personally consulted with the people you mentioned?

All  you have to do to find out is agree to a din torah.


Phony frum, you are obsessed with AsheDina.
You did not denounce this fact. You are a complete failure at debating since you do not refute a single thing I say.
I don't need a din Torah if you cannot even defend yourself on this forum.

You're just a sad pickle-nosed kike. A perverted kike.

wait a second. You're a GOY, right? calling ME a Kike, and none of the JEWS here object?

you are a smarmy liar. I don't have to defend myself against a pool of slime like you.  You just like to hurt people. You are a danger to yourself and others.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: muman613 on May 28, 2010, 04:15:02 PM
Mr Yid,

Please tell us what you stand for besides standing against Lashon Hara? Do you agree that we are threatened by the enemies of Israel? Do you think that we will win by only being concerned with Lashon Hara? Don't we have a responsibility to our brothers in order to merit Hashems promise that we will be gathered into the land?

I am getting tired of your tirade on the topic of Lashon Hara. Sure there are non-Jews who don't really have a command to prevent them from speaking Lashon Hara. I have spoken many times about using the K-word but I can only make the suggestion and hope that the listener is hearing...

But JTF is looking forward to a time when the evil leadership will be removed. There will come a time when the Obamas of the world will be gone... I hope you are not an Obamatron...

Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 28, 2010, 04:24:13 PM
Mr Yid,

Please tell us what you stand for besides standing against Lashon Hara? Do you agree that we are threatened by the enemies of Israel? Do you think that we will win by only being concerned with Lashon Hara? Don't we have a responsibility to our brothers in order to merit Hashems promise that we will be gathered into the land?

I am getting tired of your tirade on the topic of Lashon Hara. Sure there are non-Jews who don't really have a command to prevent them from speaking Lashon Hara. I have spoken many times about using the K-word but I can only make the suggestion and hope that the listener is hearing...

But JTF is looking forward to a time when the evil leadership will be removed. There will come a time when the Obamas of the world will be gone... I hope you are not an Obamatron...



I have no desire to debate anything other than lashon hara. I am among those who believe that if we can master our tongues all else will fall into place, and until we are free from hatred of other Jews, there will never be peace. As Hillel said, "all else is commentary". That was my whole point when I began this. I never criticised AsheDina for her political viewpoint. I refuse to discuss politics, because it is a lever that the enemies of Israel use to divide Jews.  I'm sorry that you're tired of my "tirade" and not Bio-Electric's sadism. To each his own, I guess. We both have sufficient friends to keep us satisfied with our prejudices. I commit persistently to behaving with as much equanimity as I can muster. I do not support insult on behalf of my friends, so I need not tolerate it on behalf of my enemies. You, of course have an easy option. Stop reading what I'm saying. No one is making you respond to me.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on May 28, 2010, 04:39:04 PM
 
Phony frum, you are obsessed with AsheDina.
You did not denounce this fact. You are a complete failure at debating since you do not refute a single thing I say.
I don't need a din Torah if you cannot even defend yourself on this forum.

You're just a sad pickle-nosed kike. A perverted kike.

wait a second. You're a GOY, right? calling ME a Kike, and none of the JEWS here object?

you are a smarmy liar. I don't have to defend myself against a pool of slime like you.  You just like to hurt people. You are a danger to yourself and others.

You didn't refute my words when you thought I was a Jew because you couldn't. And now you use it as an excuse to 'not have to'... What a sad little [censored].

You still run away from refuting my words. Even the smallest amount of reasoning is too much for you and anyone can see it here.

My righteousness is my ticket to the next world. You're vile mind will be your execution. You're more vile than a muslim.

How am I a liar coward?
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Spiraling Leopard on May 28, 2010, 04:47:02 PM
Ah, I'm a sadist for reasoning what you are.
You're a coward that's only brave enough to face his tongue. You're a real hero.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on May 28, 2010, 04:52:38 PM
Re:  "Phony frum, you are obsessed with AsheDina"

No he's not.

He's in love with "Big Mama" Kagan!                  :::D
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: JTFenthusiast2 on May 28, 2010, 05:10:08 PM
Why are so many of us being vicious to Frum Yid when he was INVITED here by someone who is always saying that we don't allow different opinions.  So far, I haven't seen Frum Yid call anyone the vicious nasty names that have been directed his way.  It's kind of sickening that people who want us to tolerate White Nationalists are hell bent on making this NEW forum member as uncomfortable as possible, which no doubt, WILL result in him leaving, which is allegedly what some people on here claim not to want.  I may not agree with Frum Yid, but he's being much more respectful to others in a positive direction, than the lack of courtesy being shown to him.  And this is my 613th post which I think should mean something--maybe not, but maybe.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: muman613 on May 28, 2010, 05:16:47 PM
Yes I agree JTFEnthusiast2...

I understand both sides here and simply would like for us to agree that we will not agree on this. Each person can control his or her lashon hara... I do believe, as mr yid does, that Lashon Hara is a very bad problem amongst the Jewish people. As I have posted before, it is believed that this kind of speech is what lead to the Sinat Chinam which destroyed the second Beit HaMikdash... As I posted above it is why the Jewish people were enslaved in Egypt... It is an insidious problem...

But there are also Erev Rav, there are also Jews who are so lost that we must rebuke them firmly so they reconsider their position. I very rarely hate a fellow Jew no matter how far from the Jewish people he or she is.. I believe that every Jew really wants to make Teshuva deep inside their soul... But for one reason or another he or she is lost and on a path of spiritual discovery...

I do not like this discussion so close to Shabbat. I hope that we can all have Shabbat Shalom and reflect on what the Jewish response to this conflict is. I do not believe that we should hurl insults. Unless we can see that FrumYid is amongst the enemies of Israel... I sure hope that he is not..

Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on May 28, 2010, 05:20:10 PM
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Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on May 28, 2010, 06:19:50 PM
בס''ד

"frumyid" is a cowardly ghetto-minded traitor who dares to misuse the Torah in order to preach his wimpy galut ideology.

We are not allowed to curse Jewish traitors? What an ignoramus!

That means that Chazal did not know what they were doing when they commanded us to pray three times a day for the violent death and destruction of Jewish informers and traitors.

We ask Hashem to do the following to Jewish traitors and informers in the Shmone Esre three times a day:

"And to the apostates and informers may there be no hope, and all enemies of Your people should speedily be cut off, and the wicked speedily You should uproot and smash and destroy and defeat quickly in our days. Blessed is Hashem who smashes enemies and defeats the wicked."


"frumyid" even defends self-hating scum like Elana Kagan yimach shma yezichra, a lifelong supporter and key ally of Barack Hussein Osama and the Clintons who are pressuring Israel to commit national suicide.

As far as Shlomo Riskin is concerned, that wimpy little traitor is not a rabbi but an informer who advocates Israeli national suicide, supports all of our enemies, and gives money and assistance to Arab Muslim Nazi Jew-killers.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on May 29, 2010, 07:32:10 PM
4. The fact that Reb Yosef made comments does not give you the right to make them without approval from a posek with equal recognition.


This is a very stupid thing to say.   Only poskim have a license to act without first getting approval of someone else or of a rabbi?   What a sickness that you think this is Judaism.   A posek is sought out when a halachic shaila arises.  Stating an opinion or carrying out any act (or even acting within the KNOWN and PUBLICIZED shita of another rabbi for crying out loud) does not require getting personal approval of a posek.

It is well known that Rabbi Ovadia Yosef cursed Yossi Sarid (and others).  Clearly then, he does not hold of the opinion that it is assur (forbidden) to curse Jewish traitors.   Similarly, there have been other great rabbis to not hold of that opinion (it's not a unanimous opinion, obviously), and Rabbi Kahane was another one.

I am not saying I can give a judgement on this particular thing or that particular thing that was said, but when you argue about the theoretical principle of cursing Jewish traitors in general, it is clear that your "Am Haaratzut" (ignorance) is on full display and you are superimposing your own leftist feelings onto what you think the halacha should be for everyone but isn't.     

And like I said, this site goes in the derech of Rabbi Kahane who did not believe in the insane-paralyzing-galut style Judaism whereby one is completely incapacitated to act in any situation without asking a rav about every single decision in life (even subjective decisions with multiple valid choices) and where a person cannot decide anything for himself and sacrifices his own intellect to someone else (a modern invention by the way and not even real Judaism by galut standards).    Rabbi Kahane said many times, a person asks their rav for a halachic matter they do not know.    No one can abdicate personal responsibility.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on May 29, 2010, 07:36:27 PM
before you judge me, I suggest you read the thread. I notice you do not comment at all about her published comments proposing that jews who disagree with her politically should be shot

It depends on which Jews and what is meant by disagree with her politically.   There are many Jews who should be put to death by the Israeli law where death penalty is employed for traitors.   The oslo traitors are first on the list.

Otherwise, if it's silly democrats and self-hating liberals, I will say "publically" - I disagree.  I personally do not think they should be "shot."   I disagree with lots of things.  So what?

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or the fact that she is trying to get be barred with IC-3's for simply following links that she sent me. 

None of my business.

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Perhaps you and I should correspond privately. If you do not have my personal email, let me know.
 But as I said earlier, I am not going to spoil their vacation.

I don't know if I'm comfortable with that.  I think we were corresponding just fine here.
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: frumyid on May 31, 2010, 08:38:00 AM
בס''ד

"frumyid" is a cowardly ghetto-minded traitor who dares to misuse the Torah in order to preach his wimpy galut ideology.

We are not allowed to curse Jewish traitors? What an ignoramus!

That means that Chazal did not know what they were doing when they commanded us to pray three times a day for the violent death and destruction of Jewish informers and traitors.

We ask Hashem to do the following to Jewish traitors and informers in the Shmone Esre three times a day:

"And to the apostates and informers may there be no hope, and all enemies of Your people should speedily be cut off, and the wicked speedily You should uproot and smash and destroy and defeat quickly in our days. Blessed is Hashem who smashes enemies and defeats the wicked."


"frumyid" even defends self-hating scum like Elana Kagan yimach shma yezichra, a lifelong supporter and key ally of Barack Hussein Osama and the Clintons who are pressuring Israel to commit national suicide.

As far as Shlomo Riskin is concerned, that wimpy little traitor is not a rabbi but an informer who advocates Israeli national suicide, supports all of our enemies, and gives money and assistance to Arab Muslim Nazi Jew-killers.

It's obvious from the above that I am not desired, let alone welcome here. If you, sir wish to say these things to my face, name the beis din I would welcome the opportunity to hear you say them, and the opportunity to spit in yours. you may contact me at my personal email, which you may find through contact with your minion.

To the rest of you, I hope that you find the correct medication to cure you of your addiction to hatred before this monster leads you all to an Oklahoma City or a Jonestown. I  am sure that you will understand if I do not wish you well. I will never return to this site again, because it is obvious that the few of you who appreciate my input should not expect to see it here, and I would not wish to attract anyone here to risk contamination.

The majority of you would have been perfectly comfortable in Germany had the Nazis allowed Jewish membership. I am leaving because at my age, my stomach is too weak to have to be confronted with such sociopathy and I have sufficient other opportunties for gamilus chesed that I do not have to spend my time tending to your sicknesses. I leave that to those with stronger stomachs and the ability to prescribe psychotropics for you, although they may also need the power to institutionalize you in order that you be prevented from doing harm to yourselves or others.
 
As your fearless leader has pointed out, we pray daily for the death of traitors and heretics. Time will tell as to whom the Abishter regards as such and what action is taken against them. The only comfort that I have is that the only Talmud Chocham who agrees with you is dead.

As I said above, I am ready to appear at any beis din to which you summon me. I of course am not going to hold my breath waiting for the call.

Have fun posting replies to this for the autoerotic benefit of your crew. I will not see any of them, nor will I feel bereft for not having done so.

Farew... oh, wait... hmmm every closing expresses a positive sentiment or wish, and I am always worried that we are given only a limited number, and I certainly would not want to find that I gave my last to any of you when I have others who might need them... so I suppose  all I can to is walk away without a final word.... pity........
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: AsheDina on May 31, 2010, 10:54:50 AM
Frum, why dont you stay, learn that you should have a gun to shoot enemies and get SANE, like not voting in Obama the JEW HATING PIG a 2nd time?
Title: Re: INVITATION to "Frum Yid" and his LEFT WING ASSASSINS to come and Debate us.
Post by: AsheDina on May 31, 2010, 11:56:37 AM
@FRUMP YID: I  am sure that you will understand if I do not wish you well.
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What a total BAFFOON. Yet-- He wishes Rahm, Elena Katfish, AxelTUCHAS, Sunstein, FrankenSTEIN, BoxHEAD, SCHMUCK Schumer, Feingold...ETC... BOLSHEVIK Jews that HATE Jews, Hate America, HATE Israel. And, then has the damned AUDACITY to wish US unwell....

Hypocrite.. THEN he, the NAZI supporter of Obama says that WE would have been with Shitler...
Sure..
YOU are the one, FRUM that is with the current NAZI regime, and you have learned absolutely ZERO about the left wing and their hatred for the Jewish people.

(http://www.histpres-technology.net/hamtechtalk/photos/obama-nazi.jpg)