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Title: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Harzel on November 19, 2011, 12:05:46 PM
The Hula painted frog is unique to the Hula valley of Israel, last sighted in 1957 and was believed to be extinct. It was rediscovered in the Hula reserve this week.

(http://www.globalpost.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/gp3_small_article/hula_painted_frog_israel_11_18_2011.jpg)


http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/green/wildlife-news/111118/hula-painted-frog-rare-species-thought-extinct-rediscovered-israel-video
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Rubystars on November 19, 2011, 12:47:28 PM
I hope they can save the species. I'm glad it's still there! Diversity in nature is one place where diversity is a strength.   ;D
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Irish Zionist on November 19, 2011, 01:26:00 PM
A shame the arabs didn't go extinct
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 19, 2011, 02:18:29 PM
Ehhhhh reebet....ehhhhh reebet.  Yalla!
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 19, 2011, 02:27:35 PM
Actually the Israelis have to be careful if this species does not have a natural predator.  Expect the plague frogs otherwise.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Harzel on November 19, 2011, 03:32:54 PM
Actually the Israelis have to be careful if this species does not have a natural predator.  Expect the plague frogs otherwise.
The Hula valley is temporary resident for tens of millions of aquatic feeding birds. Also this Frog is not particularly clever, they eat each other too. The story goes that the Israelis rescued 4 specimen, two adults and two tadpoles, before they drained the Hula lake and marsh. But they kept them in the same aquarium and the eat each other so soon there was left only one specimen which was believed to be the last one on earth.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Dr. Dan on November 19, 2011, 03:41:34 PM
The Hula valley is temporary resident for tens of millions of aquatic feeding birds. Also this Frog is not particularly clever, they eat each other too. The story goes that the Israelis rescued 4 specimen, two adults and two tadpoles, before they drained the Hula lake and marsh. But they kept them in the same aquarium and the eat each other so soon there was left only one specimen which was believed to be the last one on earth.

Wish Arabs did the same to each other. 
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Aces High on November 19, 2011, 03:52:03 PM
Good thing an Arab didn't catch this rare frog.  They would rip the legs off it, for enjoyment.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: syyuge on November 19, 2011, 05:18:21 PM
It is better to have the frogs than to have the arabs.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Meerkat on November 19, 2011, 06:57:59 PM
Wish Arabs did the same to each other. 

they do! they kill eachother all the time!

I hope they can save the species. I'm glad it's still there! Diversity in nature is one place where diversity is a strength.   ;D

nice one xD
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Rubystars on November 19, 2011, 10:06:40 PM
Thanks Meerkat!  ;D
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on November 20, 2011, 12:07:34 AM
Resurrection of the dead.  Jk ;D
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Rubystars on November 20, 2011, 12:40:56 AM
Resurrection of the dead.  Jk ;D

Impressive find but perhaps not as impressive as the coelocanth.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: muman613 on November 20, 2011, 12:50:20 AM
Resurrection of the dead.  Jk ;D


That is what I thought when I read the headlines.... Dead frog comes back to life...

Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: syyuge on November 20, 2011, 06:33:18 AM
Long hibernation could have been the key factor for survival.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Rubystars on November 20, 2011, 12:11:21 PM
Long hibernation could have been the key factor for survival.

Now if only we could convince another certain slimy cold blooded animal to hibernate for the next four years...
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: syyuge on November 20, 2011, 02:19:54 PM
Long hibernation could have been the key factor for survival.

Now if only we could convince another certain slimy cold blooded animal to hibernate for the next four years...


http://library.thinkquest.org/TQ0312800/frog.htm

"Some frogs hibernate under water.  These don't breathe and get their oxygen from the water through their skin."

"They live on body fat that they stored in their bodies during the fall.  Some toads have hibernated for as long as three years."

Under the threat of extinction, frogs can also hibernate longer for the cause of survival, so with the will of Almighty it will be observed that the Hula painted frogs have hibernated for as long as four years in Israel.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Rubystars on November 20, 2011, 02:40:44 PM
That's a good hypothesis Syyuge! That's probably what happened.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: syyuge on November 20, 2011, 02:57:24 PM
That's a good hypothesis Syyuge! That's probably what happened.

OMG, the Almighty has made even bigger arrangements for their survival:

http://www.factfrog.com/Frogfacts.htm

18- One type of desert frog can wait as long as seven years for water by surrounding itself in a type of transparent bag that becomes its first meal once the rain comes.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Rubystars on November 20, 2011, 03:14:20 PM
I think I've seen those on tv before in documentaries, they showed them coming up out of the mud during the rain.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: syyuge on November 20, 2011, 03:41:03 PM
Yes, I too have seen lot of dried and dead looking frogs unearthed during the digging of the dry bottoms of the ponds. The uneducated diggers used to push them under other heap of earth and say that they will return back to life again once the rain falls. Obviously they were uneducated but not ignorant. They were unable to understand that the hibernation lies between the sleep and the death.   
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Rubystars on November 20, 2011, 04:06:44 PM
Yes, I too have seen lot of dried and dead looking frogs unearthed during the digging of the dry bottoms of the ponds. The uneducated diggers used to push them under other heap of earth and say that they will return back to life again once the rain falls. Obviously they were uneducated but not ignorant. They were unable to understand that the hibernation lies between the sleep and the death.    

Just because people don't get formal education doesn't mean they don't understand a lot of what's around them. I think that's a neat story.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: TruthSpreader on November 20, 2011, 04:14:49 PM
A shame the arabs didn't go extinct

Wish they'd go all extinct the Arabs I mean not the frogs.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: syyuge on November 20, 2011, 04:28:34 PM
Wish they'd go all extinct the Arabs I mean not the frogs.

This brings a new point to the insight of the extinction. It needs to be searched that why arabs have not been extinct so far, I mean what is that mechanism and whether some GM food can break that genetic chain.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: angryChineseKahanist on November 20, 2011, 04:48:35 PM
Hula! I've been looking all over for you!
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Harzel on November 20, 2011, 05:36:21 PM
I think the Hula painted frog should be the official national animal of Israel. The Frog that survived against all odds.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: Rubystars on November 20, 2011, 05:41:23 PM
I thought it was the lion, but I like the symbolism :)
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: IsraelForever on November 20, 2011, 10:26:01 PM
That frog looks like Arafat!
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: BritishSword on November 21, 2011, 11:57:40 AM
I guess a lot of animals presumed extinct may not be, they just figured out to go where humans won't look for them.
Title: Re: Frog thought to be extincted, rediscovered in Israel
Post by: syyuge on November 21, 2011, 01:34:18 PM
That frog looks like Arafat!

No No No No, please do not insult the beautiful frog.