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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: MasterWolf1 on June 29, 2007, 01:12:07 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA13PGCzcgA&mode=related&search=
I been reading whats been going on for the past few days and really pissed off. We are F**** fighting each other instead of what this video is showing what we should be fighting side by side. I been with this forum for well over a year now and I will never turn my back. And yes I am a very proud Christian, and Jews are my brothers and sisters and the last thing we need is a wedge between us. Now watch this video, an ugly Mohammeden piece of camel dropping saying clearly on SAUDI TV the DEATHS OF CHRISTIANS AND JEWS. NOW EVERYONE CUT THE BULL, AND LETS DO WHAT WE NEED TO BY FIGHTING EACH OTHER WE ARE ACCOMPLISHING NOTHING!
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AND FURTHER MORE IF WE KEEP THIS WEDGE BUILDING WHO REALLY WINS? US OR THE ISLAMICS AND OTHER EVIL TURDS OUT THERE. I PERSONALLY COULDN'T BELIEVE WHAT I BEEN READING IN THE LAST FEW DAYS. >:(
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Bravo Masterwolf:
There are some gargantuan egos here, and sometimes those egos become 'more important' than saving our vanishing way of life.
This religeon-based name calling is SICKENING, and the people doing it should be ASHAMED of thmselves.
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Bravo Masterwolf:
There are some gargantuan egos here, and sometimes those egos become 'more important' than saving our vanishing way of life.
This religeon-based name calling is SICKENING, and the people doing it should be ASHAMED of thmselves.
It is, cause here I am busting my butt to introduce new people to the forum and movement and we got this catfight going on. If you were new coming onto this forum and seeing stuff like this you turn away thinking "How serious can they be?" I will not take sides on this matter when it comes to my brothers and sisters, whether Jew or Christian. I thought our common goal was to defeat or enemy, not make an enemy between us. This reminds me of siblings fighting and at the end they make up.. SO PEOPLE MAKE UP AND CUT THE BULL
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Yes thats why hesitate to bring some friends over
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G-d bless you Masterwolf, this fighting is silly and should stop. Chaim will talk about this in this week's ask JTF program so wait until then to post 10 threads about Allen-t. Let's focus on defeating Islam and the new world order instead of fighting each other.
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I think you're definitely right about the common enemy and the ending of the fighting. So how about a truce?
Jews will stop trying to convert Christians to Judaism and Christians will stop trying to convert Jews to Christianity.
That sounds fair to me.
And then we can just end the religious debate and move on.
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I think you're definitely right about the common enemy and the ending of the fighting. So how about a truce?
Jews will stop trying to convert Christians to Judaism and Christians will stop trying to convert Jews to Christianity.
That sounds fair to me.
And then we can just end the religious debate and move on.
When do Jews attempt to convert Christians to Judaism? Maybe I'm missing something?
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I think you're definitely right about the common enemy and the ending of the fighting. So how about a truce?
Jews will stop trying to convert Christians to Judaism and Christians will stop trying to convert Jews to Christianity.
That sounds fair to me.
And then we can just end the religious debate and move on.
Jews never tried converting anybody. Nor for that matter have 90% of the christians on this forum. There was one guy who disregarded the mutual respect principal, got called on it, then chucked his toys out of the pram and left. There's no religious war here...just ONE pig-headed christian and a couple of his supporters.
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G-d bless you Masterwolf, this fighting is silly and should stop.
Whenever things like this happen, I try to never get involved. This kind of fighting does nothing productive.
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Amen, MasterWolf.
Our enemy is the sand miggers, not one another.
They don't care what testaments of the Bible we may or may not accept. They just want to see us dead.
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Thank you Chaimfan, Masterwolf and Scriabin for being so level headed when everyone here is at each other's throats. I really appreciate it.
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No problem. ;)
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MasterWolf, Scriabin, CF and Newman, you are truly righteous and logical people who understand what's at stake here.
G-d bless you!
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One other thing: this incident will end up strengthening JTF because most Christians do NOT want to pick fights with the Jews at a time when 1.5 billion Muslims with trillions of petrodollars are planning to set off nuclear bombs in U.S. cities, G-d forbid.
THE CHRISTIANS AND THE JEWS SHOULD BE NATURAL ALLIES. AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF MUTUAL RESPECT, TOLERANCE AND LOVE HERE ON THIS GREAT FORUM. THIS FORUM SETS AN EXCELLENT EXAMPLE FOR HOW ALL DECENT PEOPLE SHOULD WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS A BETTER WORLD REGARDLESS OF DIFFERENT RELIGIOUS BACKGROUNDS.
This latest incident with Allen was the exception, not the rule. We will emerge from this stronger than ever, G-d willing, because our cause is just.
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Thanks J,
I'm sorry that I slung a few insults around, but other parties started the bun fight and I was provoked. I will always take a stand for Torah and Judaism.I did try to qualify my remarks but I'm sure my shotgun approach probably whacked a few bystanders.
I emphatically agree that all the ethical monotheists must unite, but not at the cost of the chosen peoples religious integrity. Western civilisation hinges on the survival of the jews..... it always has done. Try as we might, we cannot save the west if we allow judaism to be undermined.
To any fellow JTFers (with the exception of three-and they know who they are) who may have found remarks of mine (that were made in anger) offensive, I appologise.
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Wow, I thought the admins were good friends. I'm surprise
they're peeing on each other's faces like this.
And over minute differences. I think I'll go worship trees, rocks and snakes now.
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Wow, I thought the admins were good friends. I'm surprise
they're peeing on each other's faces like this.
And over minute differences. I think I'll go worship trees, rocks and snakes now.
Classic :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Wow, I thought the admins were good friends. I'm surprise
they're peeing on each other's faces like this.
And over minute differences. I think I'll go worship trees, rocks and snakes now.
Classic :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Yes! Laugh! Loosen up people!
Let's find something else to hate and to mock, like the half camel half pig Mohammed.
Yes, fight, fight the evil ____.
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Wow, I thought the admins were good friends. I'm surprise
they're peeing on each other's faces like this.
And over minute differences. I think I'll go worship trees, rocks and snakes now.
Classic :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Yes! Laugh! Loosen up people!
Let's find something else to hate, like the half camel half pig Mohammed.
LOL. :laugh:You are one funny man!
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Folks, you do know revava.org is laughing all the way?
They must be choking on their matzah balls over this.
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Folks, you do know revava.org is laughing all the way?
They must be choking on their matzah balls over this.
Our dirty washing will probably get aired at forum.kahane too. Are you really chinese BTW?
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Folks, you do know revava.org is laughing all the way?
They must be choking on their matzah balls over this.
Our dirty washing will probably get aired at forum.kahane too. Are you really chinese BTW?
I'm a Polish-German born in Russia.
My father is Greek and my mother is Nigerian.
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Folks, you do know revava.org is laughing all the way?
They must be choking on their matzah balls over this.
Our dirty washing will probably get aired at forum.kahane too. Are you really chinese BTW?
I'm a Polish-German born in Russia.
My father is Greek and my mother is Nigerian.
You're taking the p_ss out of me.....good lord! :laugh:
I'm 1/16 chinese....I should be the angry chinese loonie here.
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MasterWolf, Scriabin, CF and Newman, you are truly righteous and logical people who understand what's at stake here.
G-d bless you!
newman is someone who insulted Christianity as a "laughable faith", openly said I should do horrible things with a family member and repeatedly makes crazy blanket determinations about people he doesn't like is a "righteous and logical" person in your estimation? Jimmy, I think that is a terrible lapse of judgment on your part and it leads me to believe Allen-T side in this matter. I also can't support JTF if you're going to be saying things like this. Why should I as a Christian support a board that promotes people who call my faith laughable and wish violence or sadism on my family. I've even been pretty much accused of wanting to prostletyze to Jews. Apparently Allen-T and those that support him want to prey on Jews who aren't strong in their faith. I've never prostletyzed in my life to anyone nor will I likely ever prostletyze.
I'm going to stop posting here as of now. God bless the good folks here as there are many like jeffguy, ftf, Until Shiloh Comes, Masterwolf, italianzionist, mord, lubab, Yacov, etc. I'll drop by now and then to read what's going on because I still support JTF's real mission and hopefully things get a sanity injection in the mean time.
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Another one bites the dust.....or was that 'spits the dummy'? Ah, who cares?
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Another one bites the dust.....or was that 'spits the dummy'? Ah, who cares?
I hope that is not going to be the attitude of the forum!
It will not be of benefit to the cause of JTF - of that I'm sure.
I for one will miss Thunderbolt posting here - as I will Allen-T.
I do not appreciate the putting down of my religion - so I can understand Thunderbolt's post.
I'm not here to preach my religion or convert anyone - but I would think that respect is a two way street.
Who stays or goes is the administrators/members choice - but to take glee in loosing long time members and staunch supporters of JTF seems over the line.
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Another one bites the dust.....or was that 'spits the dummy'? Ah, who cares?
I hope that is not going to be the attitude of the forum!
It will not be of benefit to the cause of JTF - of that I'm sure.
I for one will miss Thunderbolt posting here - as I will Allen-T.
I do not appreciate the putting down of my religion - so I can understand Thunderbolt's post.
I'm not here to preach my religion or convert anyone - but I would think that respect is a two way street.
Who stays or goes is the administrators/members choice - but to take glee in loosing long time members and staunch supporters of JTF seems over the line.
They started it
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So you end it...on a better note! ;)
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So you end it...on a better note! ;)
Well that's a noble sentiment.....Unfortunately I have Irish-catholic blood and are therefore compelled to fight at the drop of a hat and get the last word. ;)
PS: That cat doesn't look happy
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So you end it...on a better note! ;)
Well that's a noble sentiment.....Unfortunately I have Irish-catholic blood and are therefore compelled to fight at the drop of a hat and get the last word. ;)
PS: That cat doesn't look happy
Let's hope we didn't win the battle and loose the war! I think the less said about this whole situation the better.
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So you end it...on a better note! ;)
Well that's a noble sentiment.....Unfortunately I have Irish-catholic blood and are therefore compelled to fight at the drop of a hat and get the last word. ;)
PS: That cat doesn't look happy
Then I'm glad for my non Irish Catholic blood ;)
P.S. Don't worry about the cat she is a survivor.
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So you end it...on a better note! ;)
Well that's a noble sentiment.....Unfortunately I have Irish-catholic blood and are therefore compelled to fight at the drop of a hat and get the last word. ;)
PS: That cat doesn't look happy
Then I'm glad for my non Irish Catholic blood ;)
P.S. Don't worry about the cat she is a survivor.
What blood then? Itallian, chinese or negroe?
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So you end it...on a better note! ;)
Well that's a noble sentiment.....Unfortunately I have Irish-catholic blood and are therefore compelled to fight at the drop of a hat and get the last word. ;)
PS: That cat doesn't look happy
Then I'm glad for my non Irish Catholic blood ;)
P.S. Don't worry about the cat she is a survivor.
What blood then? Itallian, chinese or negroe?
Makes no difference - and I meant no offense to anyone Irish Catholic - it was a stupid response to your post.
I agree with CJD.
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So you end it...on a better note! ;)
Well that's a noble sentiment.....Unfortunately I have Irish-catholic blood and are therefore compelled to fight at the drop of a hat and get the last word. ;)
PS: That cat doesn't look happy
Then I'm glad for my non Irish Catholic blood ;)
P.S. Don't worry about the cat she is a survivor.
What blood then? Itallian, chinese or negroe?
Makes no difference - and I ment no offense to anyone Irish Catholic - it was a stupid response to your post.
I agree with CJD.
tell meeeeeee! Or do I have to start a thread speculating about your ethnicity?lol :laugh:
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I have no need to bash xtianity, but what bothers me sometimes is the feeling and attitude that CBP and the forum expresses as if most christians are rightious while at the same time focosing on bashing Jews. (im not necessarily defending the particular individuals, but as a whole the attitude is that Jews are evil and xtians are G-ds gift to the world while the truth is completly opposite expecially what they have done to the Jews for close to 2,000 years.
- also expressing "bad" christians as "so-called" chriatians.
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I have no need to bash xtianity, but what bothers me sometimes is the feeling and attitude that CBP and the forum expresses as if most christians are rightious while at the same time focosing on bashing Jews. (im not necessarily defending the particular individuals, but as a whole the attitude is that Jews are evil and xtians are G-ds gift to the world while the truth is completly opposite expecially what they have done to the Jews for close to 2,000 years.
- also expressing "bad" christians as "so-called" chriatians.
I think the only time any of us ( Chaim included) attack jews is when they betray Israel and the jewish people. nobody here would deride IDF soldiers, settlers, kahanists etc. The jews Chaim attacks are the anti-zionist ones......mostly in America. We've just had a huge bun fight on this forum with a couple of christians so I'm not sure what you mean.
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Right now the best thing to do is everyone take a deep breath and think clearly what is at stake here. We need to gel together, both Jews and Christians, and stop bashing each other cause we certainly are not going to gain anything by this, in fact it is very damaging. Cause do we or don't we want to build a mass movement to wake up America and Israel? How you going to do that when we got a handfull throwing attacks back n forth? Of course there are times when there is tension but if we are going to be united work that tension out and see what is really needed here.
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Wow, I thought the admins were good friends. I'm surprise
they're peeing on each other's faces like this.
And over minute differences. I think I'll go worship trees, rocks and snakes now.
You are hilarious. Especially your ceiling fan desk fan thing.
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Right now the best thing to do is everyone take a deep breath and think clearly what is at stake here. We need to gel together, both Jews and Christians, and stop bashing each other cause we certainly are not going to gain anything by this, in fact it is very damaging. Cause do we or don't we want to build a mass movement to wake up America and Israel? How you going to do that when we got a handfull throwing attacks back n forth? Of course there are times when there is tension but if we are going to be united work that tension out and see what is really needed here.
I agree. But there are some things the administraters can't tollerate. I admit I didn't help things by losing my temper but I didn't start it either. It will all be a memory by next week anyway and who's to say he won't come back in a week or two?
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So you end it...on a better note! ;)
Well that's a noble sentiment.....Unfortunately I have Irish-catholic blood and are therefore compelled to fight at the drop of a hat and get the last word. ;)
PS: That cat doesn't look happy
Then I'm glad for my non Irish Catholic blood ;)
P.S. Don't worry about the cat she is a survivor.
What blood then? Itallian, chinese or negroe?
Makes no difference - and I ment no offense to anyone Irish Catholic - it was a stupid response to your post.
I agree with CJD.
tell meeeeeee! Or do I have to start a thread speculating about your ethnicity?lol :laugh:
start a thread speculating about anything you want - my religion and ethinicty are no secret here ;)
this too is divisive behavior
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So you end it...on a better note! ;)
Well that's a noble sentiment.....Unfortunately I have Irish-catholic blood and are therefore compelled to fight at the drop of a hat and get the last word. ;)
PS: That cat doesn't look happy
Then I'm glad for my non Irish Catholic blood ;)
P.S. Don't worry about the cat she is a survivor.
What blood then? Itallian, chinese or negroe?
Makes no difference - and I ment no offense to anyone Irish Catholic - it was a stupid response to your post.
I agree with CJD.
tell meeeeeee! Or do I have to start a thread speculating about your ethnicity?lol :laugh:
start a thread speculating about anything you want - my religion and ethinicty are no secret here ;)
this too is divisive behavior
Good grief....I was joking! Is something in the water up there. Everybody is going nuts......me included. ::)
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I'm not happy to see Thunderbolt or anyone else leave. But if Thunderbolt is leaving because of an exchange of words that he had with one poster, I think that's a mistake. I didn't even see the exchange of words that Thunderbolt is referring to. I praised Newman because from what I've seen, he is a great poster.
Bullcat, JTF goes out of its way to make our Christian members feel welcome here. We do NOT attack your religious beliefs. However, if someone like Allen who was entrusted with a high position in our movement suddenly announces that he missionizes among Jews, and he in effect demands that we give him a stamp of approval for his activities because he believes that his religion requires him to tell Jews that they are "incomplete" and "unfulfilled" unless they convert - when someone does that, then we will respond. I was respectful to Allen until he called me a "dirty liar" among other things and posted an announcement that he was permanently resigning SO THAT HE COULD EXPOSE WHAT TORAH JUDAISM SAYS ABOUT CONVERTING. HE WANTS TO EXPOSE THE JEWS AND THEIR RELIGION! THE JEWS HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS GARBAGE FOR 2,000 YEARS. AND THESE VEILED THREATS DON'T WORK WITH JTF.
Newman, I guess you and I are just two Irish troublemakers! But we sincerely love the Jewish people, and yes, we also sincerely love the righteous Gentiles.
Of course, Chaim will address this issue on Ask JTF, G-d willing. He's a little more diplomatic than we Irishmen.
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Maybe it's not the water I've been drinking...just kidding
Ok - my mistake.
See I'm smiling now :)
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I'm not happy to see Thunderbolt or anyone else leave. But if Thunderbolt is leaving because of an exchange of words that he had with one poster, I think that's a mistake. I didn't even see the exchange of words that Thunderbolt is referring to. I praised Newman because from what I've seen, he is a great poster.
Bullcat, JTF goes out of its way to make our Christian members feel welcome here. We do NOT attack your religious beliefs. However, if someone like Allen who was entrusted with a high position in our movement suddenly announces that he missionizes among Jews, and he in effect demands that we give him a stamp of approval for his activities because he believes that his religion requires him to tell Jews that they are "incomplete" and "unfulfilled" unless they convert - when someone does that, then we will respond. I was respectful to Allen until he called me a "dirty liar" among other things and posted an announcement that he was permanently resigning SO THAT HE COULD EXPOSE WHAT TORAH JUDAISM SAYS ABOUT CONVERTING. HE WANTS TO EXPOSE THE JEWS AND THEIR RELIGION! THE JEWS HAVE ENOUGH OF THIS GARBAGE FOR 2,000 YEARS. AND THESE VEILED THREATS DON'T WORK WITH JTF.
Newman, I guess you and I are just two Irish troublemakers! But we sincerely love the Jewish people, and yes, we also sincerely love the righteous Gentiles.
Of course, Chaim will address this issue on Ask JTF, G-d willing. He's a little more diplomatic than we Irishmen.
Not worth going over since t/bolt tidied up some of the threads where he climbed into me which caused me to respond with my usual moderate, irish diplomacy.....anyway water under pipe. I am in need of a large glass of jamisen's irish 'medicine' after this business though. ::)
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Maybe it's not the water I've been drinking...just kidding
Ok - my mistake.
See I'm smiling now :)
Glory hallaluja!
The Sunday program will be interesting to say the least.
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Maybe it's not the water I've been drinking...just kidding
Ok - my mistake.
See I'm smiling now :)
Glory hallaluja!
The Sunday program will be interesting to say the least.
Interesting is not strong enough to describe how monumental this Sunday program has to be. I hope Chaim can bring us together. There is so little unity now. It's going to be quite a task. I hope Chaim is up to the task.
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Maybe it's not the water I've been drinking...just kidding
Ok - my mistake.
See I'm smiling now :)
Glory hallaluja!
The Sunday program will be interesting to say the least.
Interesting is not strong enough to describe how monumental this Sunday program has to be. I hope Chaim can bring us together. There is so little unity now. It's going to be quite a task. I hope Chaim is up to the task.
It aint that bad ,jnc....it will settle down before midweek.
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Hello JSullivan - I hope you know that it is always with great respect for JTF and Chaim that I post on the forum.
I can see that I have offended you with my response to Newman and his having Irish Catholic blood - I can only say what I said before - it was a glib response and inappropriate. Please except my apologies - again.
What I was trying to say to Newman - is only - that it seems cruel to beat a dead horse.
I also understand what you are saying about Allen-T and how it effects his relationship with JTF - I guess I just feel sorry for him.
I don't disagree that Newman is a great poster and addition to the JTF forum.
BullCat
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OK Newman and Bullcat make nice! It's just not worth it otherwise.
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I hope that we can come together and create a pact in which we all agree to never offend one another. Christians and Jews ALL righteous and ALL wanting to achieve the same goal.
Chaim MUST be involved here to make this happen...
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MasterWolf, Scriabin, CF and Newman, you are truly righteous and logical people who understand what's at stake here.
G-d bless you!
newman is someone who insulted Christianity as a "laughable faith", openly said I should do horrible things with a family member and repeatedly makes crazy blanket determinations about people he doesn't like is a "righteous and logical" person in your estimation? Jimmy, I think that is a terrible lapse of judgment on your part and it leads me to believe Allen-T side in this matter. I also can't support JTF if you're going to be saying things like this. Why should I as a Christian support a board that promotes people who call my faith laughable and wish violence or sadism on my family. I've even been pretty much accused of wanting to prostletyze to Jews. Apparently Allen-T and those that support him want to prey on Jews who aren't strong in their faith. I've never prostletyzed in my life to anyone nor will I likely ever prostletyze.
I'm going to stop posting here as of now. G-d bless the good folks here as there are many like jeffguy, ftf, Until Shiloh Comes, Masterwolf, italianzionist, mord, lubab, Yacov, etc. I'll drop by now and then to read what's going on because I still support JTF's real mission and hopefully things get a sanity injection in the mean time.
Newman already apologized for what he said if any of it offended anyone. I really think that newman was attacking with all guns blaring indiscriminately because he felt like he was singlehandedly defending people. I don't think he really means what he said, I think he was just trying to use any ammunition he had in order to make his attack, including hurtful insults. Most of the people on JTF don't agree with his statements so why would you leave because of his isolated comments? Of course nothing changes, if you are a righteous person who doesn't proselytize, JTF loves you, remember that!
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JTF goes out of its way to make our Christian members feel welcome here.
I think that is absolutely right and I have never seen anything to the contrary.
I do believe that most of the Christian posters here are making a mountain out of an anthill.
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Wow, I thought the admins were good friends. I'm surprise
they're peeing on each other's faces like this.
And over minute differences. I think I'll go worship trees, rocks and snakes now.
You are hilarious. Especially your ceiling fan desk fan thing.
Just mocking at the explosion of the ____ fan thing that people put next to their avatars.
hope no one gets offended.
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JTF goes out of its way to make our Christian members feel welcome here.
I think that is absolutely right and I have never seen anything to the contrary.
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I second that, or is that third.
I first wrote to him via snail mail in 1998 or 1999 and he welcomed me and my kind with open arms.
He even said something like his Asian brothers and sisters.
And that's reaching out to more than just Jews.
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I have always felt very welcome on this forum. And glad it is a JTF forum cause I have been addicted to JTF for the past 13 years or so when I first caught Chaim and Sara on QPTV.