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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: AsheDina on September 25, 2012, 07:13:06 PM
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http://goanimate.com/videos/0emFwEZ2ITuQ?utm_source=linkshare
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Good video! Hopefully in the next one his head explodes, or he hangs himself from a street light! To you rosenfag $&&*#@$%**&%#%+ and DIE!
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I wouldn't go so far as to want someone to die because they say silly things about our forum and its members. That's going a little far. He hasn't physically harmed anyone has he? The videos that the anti-JTFers made about me were just flat out stupid but I don't lose sleep over them.
The animation was kind of funny. It might just be fanning the flames but it did make me laugh a little.
I think everyone would be better off if he was never mentioned again though unless we really have to, and if he forgot about JTF too.
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Well, I rcvd emails the other day from people that asked me what some new vids that he made were about Ruby.
Him and this Minna girl (who I dont even know) made more dumb vids about me with my pics that are copywritten and I had to file 3 more complaints with youtube and notarize another letter.
So, this is my vent.
I dont wish death. I wish to be left alone.
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Have you seen their new video? He crossed the line with me!
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The animation was kind of funny
Yes, it is supposed to be funny.
Because that is what he does all the time, jtf, jtf, jtf, jtf, jtf, jtf, jtf.
I am not even here that much, I just want to be left alone, but HE does not want to leave ME alone.
Notice how I dont use HIS name? His FULL name? Yet he does about me. That is my STAGE NAME. If it is picked up in the search engines, people will wonder what wack jobs bother me, it looks retarded.
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Have you seen their new video? He crossed the line with me!
Well, you have to leave jtf and join him. He is a fascist. Thats what fascists do.
I live, go on, live and let live. Forgive, forget, go on with life.
But, fascists cannot go on with life until you SUBMIT to them.
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I wouldn't go so far as to want someone to die because they say silly things about our forum and its members. That's going a little far. He hasn't physically harmed anyone has he? The videos that the anti-JTFers made about me were just flat out stupid but I don't lose sleep over them.
The animation was kind of funny. It might just be fanning the flames but it did make me laugh a little.
I think everyone would be better off if he was never mentioned again though unless we really have to, and if he forgot about JTF too.
If I lose a job, then it is physical, Ruby.
I am self employed.
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They used my post about my dad dying, they crossed the line! They need to apologize, or I will not let up, this is war!
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Well, I rcvd emails the other day from people that asked me what some new vids that he made were about Ruby.
Him and this Minna girl (who I dont even know) made more dumb vids about me with my pics that are copywritten and I had to file 3 more complaints with youtube and notarize another letter.
So, this is my vent.
I dont wish death. I wish to be left alone.
They really did cross the line in your case Paulette because they are causing you real trouble and I think there's no excuse for them to cross that line over something like political differences or because they don't like the internet forum you're on. I wish you every success in getting their videos shut down.
They used my post about my dad dying, they crossed the line! They need to apologize, or I will not let up, this is war!
I agree with you that what they did there was extremely inappropriate and hateful and cruel. I understand why you feel so strongly against them.
It's really sad that they have to be so full of hatred that they want to cause pain to our members like this instead of moving on with their lives and letting us live ours.
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So THAT'S what Joshua looks like. Here I thought we were going to have to wait for the Australian edition of "To Catch a Predator".
I am going to upload it to youtube tomorrow.
Just too tired right now, very exhausted.
But, we can look forward to jtf cartoons, not just Josh but many diff funny cartoons..
Dan:
This vid made me :laugh: :::D
Ruby, ty.
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I wouldn't go so far as to want someone to die because they say silly things about our forum and its members. That's going a little far. He hasn't physically harmed anyone has he? The videos that the anti-JTFers made about me were just flat out stupid but I don't lose sleep over them.
The animation was kind of funny. It might just be fanning the flames but it did make me laugh a little.
I think everyone would be better off if he was never mentioned again though unless we really have to, and if he forgot about JTF too.
Sorry Ruby, I'm a pugilist and it really upsets me when people do things like this and I cannot do anything about it!
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We shouldn't be too soft on evil people, and what the anti-JTFers have been doing with their personal attacks and threats is evil. I think what makes me sad is that there was the rift to begin with and Joshua only has himself to blame for that. If he was that kind of person though it was probably better that we found out sooner rather than later. I know we were having trouble legitimately from at least Marbus and a couple of others before that so let's not leave them out either.
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We shouldn't be too soft on evil people, and what the anti-JTFers have been doing with their personal attacks and threats is evil. I think what makes me sad is that there was the rift to begin with and Joshua only has himself to blame for that. If he was that kind of person though it was probably better that we found out sooner rather than later. I know we were having trouble legitimately from at least Marbus and a couple of others before that so let's not leave them out either.
Rabbi Kahane once said I'll give you two reasons not to insult me, and the first was that it didn't bug him. If that hero was here today, would he devote himself to whoever marbus is? Certainly, he'd use every slight of the maniac to help prove his argument, but insults, as he put it, are for non-thinkers. All the members, all the visitors, and everyone who reads your responses to these trollers, how many years of life have been wasted in total on it?
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Do you respond to these attacks by attacking because it is what G-d wants you to do, or because it really does affect you? One needs very little psychological insight to answer that. As for the video, I'm pretty sure this nut knows he's pathetic. The point is he thinks he can elevate himself by continuing his attacks.
Well, my little animation made me laugh like crazy.
I have to laugh. Our nation is falling apart, ready to be turned over to a Communist dictatorship and Joshua makes vids about the people fighting the fascism--its just all too comical.
I am sorry if I hurt Joshua.
It seems he really expected me to renounce Chaim and even renounce my own husband.
My husband chose to keep silent when we had that fall out in 2011. My husband is friends with Chaim, I am friends with Chaim and friends let things go.
I put up a video in bad taste in 2011 and its OVER now. I went on.
Everyone else went on--except Joshua.
He wants an apology from ME?
Here it is:
I am sorry, Joshua for what happened in 2011.
But-Anything else you do now, against me and my husband is in the hands of G-d. Not mine.
All you had to do was CALL me, or EMAIL me or my husband to work things out, but you chose instead to try to ruin my life.
Go on with your life. I have to go on with mine.
Stop trying to ruin my career.
BUT: I still believe that you opened 'kahanistagainstjtf' and falsely accused me of being a 'white supremacist'. Posted pictures to put my stage career in jeopardy.
'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor'
Pamela Geller also covered Eugene Terre Blanches murder but nobody called HER a 'white supremacist.'
I know you live in TX, you told 3 other people here that you live in TX.
You lied to me and told me you live in OH..More of a reason that I still believe you made that 'kahanistagainstjtf' blog.
I feel very hurt BY YOU as well. And you owe me an apology, too. I feel very betrayed by you.
What more can I say.
I'm sorry things don't work out.
Im sorry I chose to forgive events that happened in 2011.
Instead of siding with you to make many others unhappy.
Im sorry for being alive?
Is that what you would like? My death?
Do you like making fun of someones fathers death (Ephraim)?
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At any rate.. I put my blog on private and sorry I even opened IT.
Too many people offended online.
These people will NOT last ONE minute during a Communist revolt.
BY THE WAY:
Saying "I apologize" is NOT weakness, it is strength.
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Rabbi Kahane once said I'll give you two reasons not to insult me, and the first was that it didn't bug him. If that hero was here today, would he devote himself to whoever marbus is? Certainly, he'd use every slight of the maniac to help prove his argument, but insults, as he put it, are for non-thinkers. All the members, all the visitors, and everyone who reads your responses to these trollers, how many years of life have been wasted in total on it?
I made a video a while back saying that it was better for everyone involved if the anti-JTFers just stopped and got a life. You can't really expect someone at JTF under vicious attack by those people to say and do nothing though. I do think that Paulette's video sums them all up pretty well. They don't even care how much of their own time they waste, they just HATE JTF HATE JTF HATE JTF
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I made a video a while back saying that it was better for everyone involved if the anti-JTFers just stopped and got a life. You can't really expect someone at JTF under vicious attack by those people to say and do nothing though. I do think that Paulette's video sums them all up pretty well. They don't even care how much of their own time they waste, they just HATE JTF HATE JTF HATE JTF
Does nobody read/understand anything I say?????
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Does nobody read/understand anything I say?????
Your vast intellect probably outshines all of us LKZ. Obviously we can't comprehend someone on your level of communication.
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Well, my little animation made me laugh like crazy.
I have to laugh. Our nation is falling apart, ready to be turned over to a Communist dictatorship and Joshua makes vids about the people fighting the fascism--its just all too comical.
I am sorry if I hurt Joshua.
It seems he really expected me to renounce Chaim and even renounce my own husband.
My husband chose to keep silent when we had that fall out in 2011. My husband is friends with Chaim, I am friends with Chaim and friends let things go.
I put up a video in bad taste in 2011 and its OVER now. I went on.
Everyone else went on--except Joshua.
He wants an apology from ME?
Here it is:
I am sorry, Joshua for what happened in 2011.
But-Anything else you do now, against me and my husband is in the hands of G-d. Not mine.
All you had to do was CALL me, or EMAIL me or my husband to work things out, but you chose instead to try to ruin my life.
Go on with your life. I have to go on with mine.
Stop trying to ruin my career.
BUT: I still believe that you opened 'kahanistagainstjtf' and falsely accused me of being a 'white supremacist'. Posted pictures to put my stage career in jeopardy.
'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor'
Pamela Geller also covered Eugene Terre Blanches murder but nobody called HER a 'white supremacist.'
I know you live in TX, you told 3 other people here that you live in TX.
You lied to me and told me you live in OH..More of a reason that I still believe you made that 'kahanistagainstjtf' blog.
I feel very hurt BY YOU as well. And you owe me an apology, too. I feel very betrayed by you.
What more can I say.
I'm sorry things don't work out.
Im sorry I chose to forgive events that happened in 2011.
Instead of siding with you to make many others unhappy.
Im sorry for being alive?
Is that what you would like? My death?
Do you like making fun of someones fathers death (Ephraim)?
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At any rate.. I put my blog on private and sorry I even opened IT.
Too many people offended online.
These people will NOT last ONE minute during a Communist revolt.
BY THE WAY:
Saying "I apologize" is NOT weakness, it is strength.
I highly doubt he would be harrassing you over the video you made in 2011! By that time rosentrash was already attacking JTF all over the internet. Like he cares about Jewish values? He wasn't even part of the forum then. And he behaves like an antisemite.
If he is leading you to believe its about some video you once made, that is simply a fraud. He is harrassing you with no justification. He is absolute trash. Marxist trash.
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I highly doubt he would be harrassing you over the video you made in 2011! By that time rosentrash was already attacking JTF all over the internet. Like he cares about Jewish values? He wasn't even part of the forum then. And he behaves like an antisemite.
If he is leading you to believe its about some video you once made, that is simply a fraud. He is harrassing you with no justification. He is absolute trash. Marxist trash.
I agree she should not be apologizing to them! I believe they were anti semantic, anti American, and anti Israel from the beginning!
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בס''ד
The video is both humorous and true. Joshua Rosenberg of Australia has spent the last several years obsessively attacking JTF and its members with literally hundreds of insane and anti-Semitic videos.
Obviously, Rosenberg is a pathologically sick person. His original user name both on this forum and on zootube was "4International" - the name Leon Trotsky used for his Communist movement that murdered thousands of Soviet Jews and held millions of them hostage behind the Iron Curtain for 70 years. Naming himself after the bestial Trotskyites is like someone using the name "Meine Kampf".
Rosenberg deliberately incites Nazi anti-Semitism on zootube by claiming that Jews say "Death to all Christians" and "Death to all non-Jews". This is precisely what neo-Nazi and Muslim groups claim in their blood libels against the Jewish people. In fact, neo-Nazis have embedded Rosenberg's videos on their web sites as "proof" that the Jews are conspiring against Christians. Rosenberg is happy to create Jew-hating videos that Nazis use against the Jewish people.
BTW "Minna" does not exist. That is another of Joshua Rosenberg's invented user names that he hides behind. Rosenberg has literally dozens of user names that produce videos that defend him and that obsessively attack JTF with such precise details (all distorted, of course). Dozens of his videos seek to convince us that he is not Joshua Rosenberg, that there is a large group of people behind him with the same obsessions that he has, and that he is not from Australia. All of which is pure fantasy and nonsense. While Marbus the Croatian Nazi has worked with him from time to time, 99% of the videos are created by Rosenberg himself even though he tries desperately to tie the videos to others.
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228 views? Oy Vey... What is wrong with you people? Why so much interest in a loser... Seems like this is the mission of JTF... Oy Vey!
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lol, good video Ashe, pretty much sums up the situation.
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228 views? Oy Vey... What is wrong with you people? Why so much interest in a loser... Seems like this is the mission of JTF... Oy Vey!
Hey muman, you do realize that as new posts get added and the same person looks at the thread again, that the views get multiplied right?
For example, if I look at the thread when it only contains the first post, that's 1 view. But then 2 more people post comments, and I go back and look again. Now I have registered 2 views. And now I wait a day later, there are 20 more posts, and now I open the thread again to view the new comments, now I have registered 3 views all by one user (myself) ?
Just wondering if you realize it works that way. I'm not sure why you care how many views different threads get. If you put something interesting, it's bound to get many views and replies, that's just how it works.
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Hey muman, you do realize that as new posts get added and the same person looks at the thread again, that the views get multiplied right?
For example, if I look at the thread when it only contains the first post, that's 1 view. But then 2 more people post comments, and I go back and look again. Now I have registered 2 views. And now I wait a day later, there are 20 more posts, and now I open the thread again to view the new comments, now I have registered 3 views all by one user (myself) ?
Just wondering if you realize it works that way. I'm not sure why you care how many views different threads get. If you put something interesting, it's bound to get many views and replies, that's just how it works.
Yes I realize this... But the point is that there are far more important topics than a troll who has gotten more attention that I feel he deserves. Unless there is a benefit to this kind of childish conflict. It is clear Rosenberg is an enemy against everything which JTF stands for. His opinion of Chaim is obscene and I accept that there are trolls who feel like him. So be it.... But we spend so much time giving this guy attention, for what? I just don't get it. We should attempt to stick to issues which are important, and trolls be damned.
Maybe there is a greater wisdom I do not appreciate. If so please clue me in...
BTW, KWRBT, I hope you had a meaningful Yom Kippur.
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Yes I realize this... But the point is that there are far more important topics than a troll who has gotten more attention that I feel he deserves. Unless there is a benefit to this kind of childish conflict. It is clear Rosenberg is an enemy against everything which JTF stands for. His opinion of Chaim is obscene and I accept that there are trolls who feel like him. So be it.... But we spend so much time giving this guy attention, for what? I just don't get it. We should attempt to stick to issues which are important, and trolls be damned.
Maybe there is a greater wisdom I do not appreciate. If so please clue me in...
BTW, KWRBT, I hope you had a meaningful Yom Kippur.
He made it more than just a troll annoyance or even just a personal conflict when he put Ashe Dina's livelihood at risk. She is more than justified to respond.
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He made it more than just a troll annoyance or even just a personal conflict when he put Ashe Dina's livelihood at risk. She is more than justified to respond.
Certainly AsheDina is correct to deal with him. I have no issue with that. But surely giving him attention is only emboldening him and playing his game. I understand that AsheDina started this thread, and I support her all the way concerning getting this guy to stop his harassment. My question is whether posting these videos is productive for the cause in the long run?
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He doesn't deserve any kind of apology. I used lines from your video on the comments section of one of their videos AD :)
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Oh boy here we go again. Shouldn't we be more worried about Obama than Joshua Rosenberg?
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I highly doubt he would be harrassing you over the video you made in 2011! By that time rosentrash was already attacking JTF all over the internet. Like he cares about Jewish values? He wasn't even part of the forum then. And he behaves like an antisemite.
If he is leading you to believe its about some video you once made, that is simply a fraud. He is harrassing you with no justification. He is absolute trash. Marxist trash.
I didnt do ANYTHING to him.
He is angry because I chose to go on and not hate jtf, jtf, jtf, jtf, jtf, jtf for the rest of my life along with him??
Why did I apologize?
Because it is my CAREER that is involved here.
Plus I am a just nice person. Video is still up, so, apology not accepted???
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Basically, they had 24 hours to just take them down and let it go. They, however chose not to.
So, David Ben Moshe is looking into a restraining order this next coming week. We cant have this happening, this is my WORK.
Not some bs on the net--this is my CAREER involved here.
We had to write youtube/google to get the last ones down with a notarized letter about 6-7 wks ago.
We will have to make a demand to restrain their IP's from these videos that can harm my career.
youtube.com/watch?v=zde__yl1PSg
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Everything you say... a man after my own heart.
Yeah, but its not YOU whose career is in danger.
I cant have these heavy-metal youtubes with my STAGE NAME and the picture that is on my CD on such dumb videos!
Normally, I would agree.
But, I cant when my WORK is affected.
Imagine if you were a DR and he started making crazy vids like this about YOU.
Then people saw it and thought YOU were a wack job?
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Yeah, but its not YOU whose career is in danger.
I cant have these heavy-metal youtubes with my STAGE NAME and the picture that is on my CD on such dumb videos!
Normally, I would agree.
But, I cant when my WORK is affected.
Imagine if you were a DR and he started making crazy vids like this about YOU.
Then people saw it and thought YOU were a wack job?
AsheDina,
I am very sorry for this ignorant fool harassing you. It must be incredibly awful to deal with this. But I am beginning to think that it may be virtually impossible to have this video removed via the law. Look at the recent case in the news. A woman who played a part in the anti-mohamud movie is suing youtube to get the video removed. The woman claims she did not know that the part she played was in an anti-islam move {otherwise known as a documentary} and now she receives death threats from the sick savages of the peaceful religion. Youtube refuses to remove the video...
Maybe with prayer and good lawyers you may succeed. My prayers are that it is resolved in your favor soon...
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There's a difference between free speech and slander though Muman. Innocence of Muslims is a free speech video and the woman got paid for her acting role in it and it's really her fault for not knowing what kind of video she was doing if indeed she really didn't know (which I doubt). What's being done to AD is sabotage and slander and I do think she has a good chance of fighting against that as she never consented in any way to be in those videos about her.
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Well, I had fun making it.
At least I dont go around hurting people.
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Well, I had fun making it.
At least I dont go around hurting people.
It's a good video that you made AD. It really exposes what he really is. I still have trouble comprehending that kind of blind hatred. They even go so far as to claim Shlomo doesn't exist now.
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ONE WORD: Brilliant! It summarizes this loser's entire reason for living.
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ONE WORD: Brilliant! It summarizes this loser's entire reason for living.
I have more. I can be a real big pain when people do this crap over and over for NOTHING.