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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Dan Ben Noah on November 29, 2012, 07:32:56 PM
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Shalom
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Even though it sucks this has happening, it is for the best. The Europeans and Arabs only have one desire for the Jews, "Extermination".
Israel needs to separate itself from the Europeans and Arabs (all Muslims, actually), who have for 100s and 1000s of years tried to oppress, desecrate and finally exterminate the Jewish people. Is it any surprise that the children of those who tortured, raped, robbed, oppressed and murdered us have voted to recognize a country who's entire goal is to do just that?
I think Israel will go through a lot of suffering and struggles, but it is about time we call a spade a spade. We need to stop pretending the Europeans are our friends and accept them as the enemies they truly are. What they did to Serbia, they would do to Israel in a heartbeat if they didn't fear Israel could wipe out all their cities. I hate to say Mutually Assured Destruction is the only thing that keeps the Europeans and Arabs from wiping out the Jewish race and state of Israel.
They will perform BOYCOTTS and even probably punish the Jews living in their countries in the name of "Palestine". Europe is becoming more and more Islamic. Thankfully, most Jew-hating European women are feminazis and don't desire to have children, so the birthrate of Europeans is decreasingly rapidly to the point where the "white" European continent will inevitably face extinction in the next two or three centuries. Sadly, the birthrate of Europeans is being replaced with a very high birthrate of Islamic savages. In the next century, France, England, Germany and perhaps, even Italy, will become Islamic countries.
It is time we face the truth and stop pretending we actually have friends among those in Europe with white skin. I would say outside of USA, the average white folk are libtard morons or uber-left wing national socialist types/nazi types. Even many white people in the USA don't like Jews, outside of the Christian Right, who's intentions may be noble, but not always.
Need, I mention that the consensus of African nations obviously is anti-Israel. Funding by Jew-hating Europeans and Arabs in Africa have aligned Africans against the Jews, as Africans generally just follow the will of their financial supporters. There are a group of Africans who support Israel unabashed. Who are they? THose who are funded and supported by the Christian American Right. Go figure.. LOL
Israel's only friends lie to the Far East , such as India and Philippines. Sadly, even many Asian countries are either Islamicized or whores to the United Nazis organization, such as Indonesia, Malaysia and South Korea.
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Even though it sucks this has happening, it is for the best. The Europeans and Arabs only have one desire for the Jews, "Extermination".
Israel needs to separate itself from the Europeans and Arabs (all Muslims, actually), who have for 100s and 1000s of years tried to oppress, desecrate and finally exterminate the Jewish people. Is it any surprise that the children of those who tortured, raped, robbed, oppressed and murdered us have voted to recognize a country who's entire goal is to do just that?
I think Israel will go through a lot of suffering and struggles, but it is about time we call a spade a spade. We need to stop pretending the Europeans are our friends and accept them as the enemies they truly are. What they did to Serbia, they would do to Israel in a heartbeat if they didn't fear Israel could wipe out all their cities. I hate to say Mutually Assured Destruction is the only thing that keeps the Europeans and Arabs from wiping out the Jewish race and state of Israel.
They will perform BOYCOTTS and even probably punish the Jews living in their countries in the name of "Palestine". Europe is becoming more and more Islamic. Thankfully, most Jew-hating European women are feminazis and don't desire to have children, so the birthrate of Europeans is decreasingly rapidly to the point where the "white" European continent will inevitably face extinction in the next two or three centuries. Sadly, the birthrate of Europeans is being replaced with a very high birthrate of Islamic savages. In the next century, France, England, Germany and perhaps, even Italy, will become Islamic countries.
It is time we face the truth and stop pretending we actually have friends among those in Europe with white skin. I would say outside of USA, the average white folk are libtard morons or uber-left wing national socialist types/nazi types. Even many white people in the USA don't like Jews, outside of the Christian Right, who's intentions may be noble, but not always.
Need, I mention that the consensus of African nations obviously is anti-Israel. Funding by Jew-hating Europeans and Arabs in Africa have aligned Africans against the Jews, as Africans generally just follow the will of their financial supporters. There are a group of Africans who support Israel unabashed. Who are they? THose who are funded and supported by the Christian American Right. Go figure.. LOL
Israel's only friends lie to the Far East , such as India and Philippines. Sadly, even many Asian countries are either Islamicized or whores to the United Nazis organization, such as Indonesia, Malaysia and South Korea.
TROLL ALERT!!!!!!!!
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Dumbsh*t... You can ask my rabbi if I am a troll.. I've put my share of time defending the Jewish race... Most Europeans hate Jews, regardless of color. It is just that many Jewish people think white EUropeans are the friends of the Jews.
Its the fact that most Europeans hate Jews.. Get your head out of your [censored]..
BTW, are you Jewish or a goy? I like to know if you know what life is like being a Jew.
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I dont see what was said should get the response of "Troll alert". Europeans (as a whole) hate Jews. What is the problem with that statement?
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Brian the schmuck is the troll... Brian, how did you last so long on a Kahanist website like this?
Sorry, I'm a bit pissed.. I never been called a troll on a Kahanist site before for defending my own people.
Maybe this idiot can use a history lesson. Ever heard of the holocaust? 6,000,000 dead Jews murdered at the hands of mostly white, Jew-hating Europeans. The same ones sitting at the UN and advocating for the destruction of the Jewish state along with their inbred Islamic monkey friends.
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Essau Hates Jacob, this is what my Rabbi told me when I spoke with him the other night. It is a fact of Jewish existence.
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2665/jewish/Why-Does-Esau-Hate-Jacob.htm
http://www.aish.com/tp/i/wbr/48923487.html
A Question: What does Rabbi Shimon mean when he says "It is a law that Esau hates Jacob"? What kind of "law" is this? That's a strange term to use. He could say Esau (the gentiles) hate the Jews. But to call this a law is quite unusual. And if is a "law" why is this case an exception?
http://www.torah.org/features/secondlook/antisem.html
So has anti-Semitism disappeared? Hardly. "Esau hates Jacob" is one of the fundamental spiritual principles governing our world, our Sages tell us. Hatred of Jacob may take many forms, but it will never go away.
Jew hatred today rarely takes the form of racial anti-Semitism. Rather it is directed at the idea of the Jews as a nation. And Israel, however imperfect a model of Jewish nationhood it may be, signifies to the world the assertion of Jewish peoplehood.
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Brian the schmuck is the troll... Brian, how did you last so long on a Kahanist website like this?
Sorry, I'm a bit pissed.. I never been called a troll on a Kahanist site before for defending my own people.
I see.... so because your rabbi is better than mine... that somehow makes you less of a troll..
Obvious these countries governments and many of their citizens are pathetic no good leftist jew haters... I would never try to argue against that.... I post articles all the time about Jew hatred at the hands of these countries.
But you You are telling us to DITCH some of our best members... This is what every troll does...
You specifically told us to STOP PRETENDING as you said... that these people support Israel and want to help us....
You think we are a bunch of idiots for allowing these EVIL Europeans and Asians to join this site... because you think they are PRETENDING to support Israel....
You are a Troll!!!!
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Brian the schmuck is the troll... Brian, how did you last so long on a Kahanist website like this?
Sorry, I'm a bit pissed.. I never been called a troll on a Kahanist site before for defending my own people.
please, don't call Brian a schmuck!
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please, don't call Brian a schmuck!
Thanks Ephriam.... :) But maybe I shouldnt talk to you.... because after all... people like you are just 'PRETENDING' to support Israel.
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Insulting a Kahansit Jew, because I think Europeans in general are Jew-haters.. Wow.. I will call Brian a schmuck if I please, because he is!
Fine, throw me off.. The Jewish Defense League isn't this naive and doesn't treat their members like dogs like here.
You are a troll and idiots like you are why we JEws suffer, because we create divisions and kiss the [censored] of our enemies.
I never advocated for throwing anybody off the site.. WTF are you talking about? If there are EUropeans who support the Jewish people, I will defend them and consider them a friend or brother just as anyone else. You seem to either lack intelligence or just take what I say completely out of context.
Are you even Jewish?? My grandmother's entire village in Europe was exterminated by white Europeans who hated us. All my aunts, uncles, cousins were massacred in Belarus. Of course, you sit behind your computer and make liberal insults at people and you don't even know why.. Maybe it makes you feel like your life has more purpose. You don't seem to know jack about the Jewish people. Go read a history book..
Oh I am a troll, cause I think the Jew-hating Europeans hate us?? Even on the JTF forum, Chaim Ben Pesach talks about the horrible things being done by European leftists.
I will advocate my point again, "Europe is not our friend, EUROPE IS OUR ENEMY!!"
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Insulting a Kahansit Jew, because I think Europeans in general are Jew-haters.. Wow.. I will call Brian a schmuck if I please, because he is!
Fine, throw me off.. The Jewish Defense League isn't this naive and doesn't treat their members like dogs like you do.
You are troll and idiots like you are why we JEws suffer, because we create divisions and kiss the [censored] of our enemies.
I never advocated for throwing anybody off the site.. WTF are you talking about? If there are EUropeans who support the Jewish people, I will defend them and consider them a friend or brother just as anyone else. You seem to either lack intelligence or just take what I say complete ly out of context.
I am a troll, cause I think the Jew-hating Europeans hate us??
No, this is not at all what you said.. your comment was meant to divide our movement. Its very obvious. You told us we need to: stop pretending we actually have friends among those in Europe with white skin
You didnt say... many Europeans with white skin hate Jews...... If you had said that... I could care less..... thats not a trollish statement.
You said... Europeans with white skin that support our movement are FAKING their support... and we need to stop pretending they support us.... like we are a bunch of idiots for welcoming the support of the righteous Europeans.
Thats what every troll says.
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Essau Hates Jacob, this is what my Rabbi told me when I spoke with him the other night. It is a fact of Jewish existence.
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2665/jewish/Why-Does-Esau-Hate-Jacob.htm
http://www.aish.com/tp/i/wbr/48923487.html
http://www.torah.org/features/secondlook/antisem.html
This is not true 100%. That incident was for that specific time and does not apply to all gentiles even descendants of Esav. Everyone has free choice and they should be judged by their actions. Good or otherwise.
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Dumbsh*t... You can ask my rabbi if I am a troll.. I've put my share of time defending the Jewish race... Most Europeans hate Jews, regardless of color. It is just that many Jewish people think white EUropeans are the friends of the Jews.
Its the fact that most Europeans hate Jews.. Get your head out of your [censored]..
BTW, are you Jewish or a goy? I like to know if you know what life is like being a Jew.
I know what you are saying to the max.
Nobody likes us 'evil' Jews.
So, here comes the judgement of HaShem.
BH
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This is getting stupid...
I think that what Everyjewa44 said was said with a good intention.
He is not aware of the make-up the JTF membership. I too did not realize this when I first joined four years ago. It took me some time (and even lately I still get flack for saying things which are not communicated clearly) to make sure my posts do not offend JTF members.
I respect all involved in this issue. I understand the sentiment 'Essau hates Jacob' and yet I also recognize that righteous gentiles can and should be interested in making sure Israel is safe and secure.
We must stand together because too many times we are sniping between each other.
Please try to withhold judgment and name-calling as it does not increase good-will among members.
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This is not true 100%. That incident was for that specific time and does not apply to all gentiles even descendants of Esav. Everyone has free choice and they should be judged by their actions. Good or otherwise.
This is a law according to the Talmud. Sure there are exceptions, but the maxim 'Essau Hates Jacob' is still true.
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No, this is not at all what you said.. your comment was meant to divide our movement. Its very obvious. You told us we need to: stop pretending we actually have friends among those in Europe with white skin
You didnt say... many Europeans with white skin hate Jews...... If you had said that... I could care less..... thats not a trollish statement.
You said... Europeans with white skin that support our movement are FAKING their support... and we need to stop pretending they support us.... like we are a bunch of idiots for welcoming the support of the righteous Europeans.
Thats what every troll says.
I'm not going to get in this spit for spat with you.. I got better things to do. Calling a devoted Jewish Kahanist who is victim of anti-Semitism and who had many of his family massacred in the Holocaust a troll, I think is very lowly and cheap on a Kahanist Jewish site.
You obviously have taken what I said out of context or maybe I didn't phrase it properly..
Here is what I meant to say:
A majority of the people in Europe, white, black and Arab HATE Us Jews
There are you happy now?
You really are making juvenile statements that make no sense. I never said Europeans with white skin are faking support for the Jews.. Where did I say that?? I said that European nations "as a whole" pretend to be Israel's friends and they are really our enemies.. They always come to Israel, saying they have the best intentions, that they support the Jews and feel so bad for our suffering. In reality they want to exterminate us and give away our land to the Arabs.. You are so full of crap. You just want to be right..
I got a personal message from one of the mods that has influenced to not engage with you anymore on the issue with people like you. I can see this is a website that caters more to the non-Jewish crowd who cannot understand Jewish sensitivities. On any JDL forum, you would have been reprimanded quickly for your attacks.. But I guess I got to put up with close-minded and ignorant people like you for the time being.
I'm bowing out of this discussion anymore..
Sad, this thread had to get hijacked like this.. I am very upset about the whole UN ordeal, but know that it is inevitable.. Maybe, somebody can contribute and put the thread back on track.
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http://www.jlaw.com/Commentary/durbandejavu.html
The U.N. has long embodied a particularly wild and blatant manifestation of what the Midrash calls a "law" of nature: "Esau hates Jacob." The world's outlaw-nations are unprepared to grant us any peace, even after they witnessed a third of our people utterly destroyed. Behind the United Nations ' austere façade lies a veritable jungle, crawling with well-dressed, diplomatically correct savages.
http://www.askmoses.com/en/article/174,2445/Is-there-any-way-to-explain-anti-Semitism.html
It really seems that anti-Semitism defies any logic or rationale.
Our sages tell us that (Sifri, Behaloscha 9:10), "It is a known rule, Esau hates Jacob." Similarly we are told (Talmud, Tractate Shabbat 89a), "Why was [the mountain] called Sinai? Because from there hatred [in Hebrew, the word for hatred is "sinah"] spread to the nations of the world."
In other words, it is part of G-d's master-plan for us to be hated by the rest of the world. The adversity is what keeps us unique, separate and focused on our mission. As Balaam said (Numbers 23:9) - when he was blessing us - "Behold it is a nation that will dwell in solitude and not be reckoned among the nations.”
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@everyJew! F u! I don't want you banned, but I have been watching you, but I've been too busy to get a feel for you.
My ancestors have been slaughtered and burned at the stake for 100's of years for religious freedom!
I will die with the Jews, and I'm not a computer nerd so, shut the f#@k up!
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Nobody really likes the Jews.
Except the few nice folks here that are non-Jews. I know this first hand. Many are friends of mine.
I dont care if everyone hates the Jewish people.
My husband is a Jew, I am a Jew-Goy'l and we will kill anyone that TRIES to hurt us no matter WHERE we live.
I am not in a popularity contest.
ANYWAY:
EU recognizing this pali bs?
Look, whoever curses the Jews will be cursed....Think on this EU:
The curse that Israel suffers with; Leftism and Muslim-maniac-ism will become YOUR curse ten fold.
I look forward to it with infinite delight.
Good riddance EU
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BTW, are you Jewish or a goy? I like to know if you know what life is like being a Jew.
I'm American Jew... my family is from a Russia/Ukraine.... yes... I know all about the horrible pogroms, jew-hatred they had to endure... but I also know enough to tell if someone's support of Israel and our movement is genuine or not...
By you insulting the genuinity of our euro members who you hardly even know... you don't belong on this forum.
Why dont you join the... I hate all Europeans, Asians... and nearly all Americans group.
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@everyJew! F u! I don't want you banned, but I have been watching you, but I've been too busy to get a feel for you.
My ancestors have been slaughtered and burned at the stake for 100's of years for religious freedom!
I will die with the Jews, and I'm not a computer nerd so, shut the f#@k up!
Ephraim:
Come on already.
He is obviously upset.
AN ENEMY made the enemy of Israel 'legit.'
This is VERY upsetting. VERY upsetting to spiritual; Jewish people.
Truly very agonizing.
Have compassion.
Anyhoooo, I am over n out.
Tired.
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@everyJew! F u! I don't want you banned, but I have been watching you, but I've been too busy to get a feel for you.
My ancestors have been slaughtered and burned at the stake for 100's of years for religious freedom!
I will die with the Jews, and I'm not a computer nerd so, shut the f#@k up!
Yeahh...... I have to admit... I have been slacking off in the troll-spotting department.... but I am very happy with influx of new members (yourself included) and almost all have been great.
But Im sorry... Jews who with so much hatred that they can't even accept the fact that our movement has euro gentiles who are sincere DO NOT BELONG HERE!!! or they need to take a time out for a few weeks. Members like this do FAR more damage than you might think.
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This is a law according to the Talmud. Sure there are exceptions, but the maxim 'Essau Hates Jacob' is still true.
Listen from 6:40 and onward.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Kz4XAjzN8&feature=plcp
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@everyJew! F u! I don't want you banned, but I have been watching you, but I've been too busy to get a feel for you.
My ancestors have been slaughtered and burned at the stake for 100's of years for religious freedom!
I will die with the Jews, and I'm not a computer nerd so, shut the f#@k up!
Kisss my [censored] you piece of sh*t.. What kind of Jewish person would insult his own brother?? Oh wait, you are not Jewish..
Wow, another sh*t talker behind the computer screen.. I'm not afraid of you.. Believe me.. You will die with the Jews?? I am a Jew and all you have done is insult me and my race.
Briann, I never said anything against Euro gentile members here.. You are just trying to start sh*t.. Go read my original post.. I was talking about that the white European continent, in general, hates the Jewish race. You probably forgot the fact that they tried to exterminate us.. You probably don't realy care.. You just like to hear yourself talk.
Efriam (my grandfathers name, sad you had to adopt it) + Briann = Thread Hijacking Trolls
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Kisss my [censored] you piece of sh*t.. What kind of Jewish person would insult his own brother?? You are [censored] ..
Wow, another sh*t talker behind the computer screen.. I'm not afraid of you.. Believe me..
Briann, I never said anything against Euro gentile members here.. You are just trying to start sh*t.. Go read my original post.. I was talking about that the white European continent, in general, hates the Jewish race. You probably forgot the fact that they tried to exterminate us.. You probably don't realy care.. You just like to hear yourself talk.
Your still here?
I see... so you just called me a you piece of sh*t..
and in the same sentence... you said... what kind of Jew would insult another jew.
Have you considered lithium for your anger issues? Or maybe your troll-food is interacting with your current drug regimen?
And how dare you say I don't care about my people who died at the hands of Nazis.... Thats a horrible statement... My grandparents were actively involved in helping the zionist cause and helped many Jews in the 40s and 50s... my family has a proud history.. and didnt turn leftist until the last few decades.
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Come on with the language. I realize some are upset but we should not resort to name calling and foul language.
Let us resolve this by agreeing that not all Europeans hate Israel. Some support the Jewish nation for reasons we do not understand. We should hope it is because of the Blessings that those who bless the Jewish people will receive and not because of some 'other' reasons.
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Is it best I leave this site?? I could go to StørmFrønt if I want to receive this kind of treatment. I didn't come to a Kahanist website to be attacked with juvenile insults.
Seriously, if I am not wanted here.. I will leave.. I probably will leave anyway. I don't want to be on a forum with JEw-haters like Brian and Ephraim. All they can do is spew out insults to anybody who doesn't agree with them and their personal agenda..
I agree there are many noble and righteous Europeans. It is pretty obvious from my original post, I was making a generalized statement. Brian decided to take out grossly out of context and then go on a tirade against me. It sounds like some people here are off their medication and decided to use me as their target board for the attack.
Like I said, I came her to unite with other Jews and Righteous Gentiles who would help support the cause of the Jewish people and Israel. I am not here to get in futile, juvenile [censored] matches. All this over the fact I don't like Europe? Sorry..
Pardon my language Muman.. I got really pissed off and usually don't resort to foul language..
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It's true that most Europeans are too Islam-friendly and anti-Jewish. However we do have European members here who are very good and loyal members of JTF. So while you can't trust the leadership in European nations, some of the people who live there are still very good. In the end the only one the Jewish people can really trust is God. However those of us who are friends of Jews from various nations of the world are friends not based on our backgrounds which are very diverse, but because we believe it's the right thing to do.
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It's true that most Europeans are too Islam-friendly and anti-Jewish. However we do have European members here who are very good and loyal members of JTF. So while you can't trust the leadership in European nations, some of the people who live there are still very good. In the end the only one the Jewish people can really trust is God. However those of us who are friends of Jews from various nations of the world are friends not based on our backgrounds which are very diverse, but because we believe it's the right thing to do.
Thank you Rubystars... Very nicely said...
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The Jewish people have always been hospitable and accepting of outsiders, I certainly cannot say we receive the same acceptance and hospitality.
Anyway, I welcome all supporters from all nations. I am very cross-cultural and open-minded. I am just not blind and ignorant.
In all honesty, I dislike most everybody, white , black , brown, yellow .. LOL Heck, I even dislike many Jews, because they are self-hating and seek the destruction of their own people. I refer to them as Judenratt.
I love people of all races who support the Jewish people and Israel. Every Jewish soul is precious, but so is every Righteous Gentile soul.
I would defend the life of a non-Jewish Zionist over a Judenratt anyday.
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Please do not use inappropriate language on the forum or attempt to bypass the banned word filter.
If you continue, I will lock the thread and delete all the offending posts.
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I think that what Everyjewa44 said was said with a good intention.
I want to go on record that I agree with this. Not only that, but I have many of the same thoughts that Everyjewa44 speaks about. I obviously realize that not EVERY SINGLE gentile in Europe hates Jews, but c'mon!, let's not ignore our own history (recent and past) in Europe.
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OK everyone, calm down.
Briann, who is Jewish is a long time member, and he means well.
However, I don't believe EveryJewa44 is a troll at all. So far, I like his posts which are generally well thought out and intelligent. And from what I can tell, he didn't mean to say all white Europeans are evil Jew haters.
So please everyone. Keep it civil.
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I agree with Lisa. I also dont see what EveryJew said that is so bad. I will say the arabs are roaming the streets of NYC with that disgusting hateful flag. I am proud to tell everyone I work with, using appropriate language, that this is a terrible thing that has befallen the world.
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The Jewish people have always been hospitable and accepting of outsiders, I certainly cannot say we receive the same acceptance and hospitality.
Anyway, I welcome all supporters from all nations. I am very cross-cultural and open-minded. I am just not blind and ignorant.
In all honesty, I dislike most everybody, white , black , brown, yellow .. LOL Heck, I even dislike many Jews, because they are self-hating and seek the destruction of their own people. I refer to them as Judenratt.
I love people of all races who support the Jewish people and Israel. Every Jewish soul is precious, but so is every Righteous Gentile soul.
I would defend the life of a non-Jewish Zionist over a Judenratt anyday.
ok, well Im fine, and well that sounds good to me.
We all try to help eachother here... and we all feel betrayed by western nations in general... and I feel betrayed at times by the American and Israeli government more than you can imagine.
As far as what makes StørmFrønt so evil... is NOT just the fact that they hate all jews (but thats a lot of it)... its that they refuse to believe that good exists in other type of people.... Chaim has always said... part of what Jews need to be... is an inspiration to the truly righteous. That doesnt mean to walk blindly into the gas chambers of course.
And what I have noticed... and I know this more than most Jews... is that there is a HUGE percentage of gentiles in America (mostly protestant) that are more supportive of Israel than you can possibly imagine. they have Israeli flags on their facebook pages... and hate all the enemies of Israel and a lot of that is from their religious upbringing.
There is NO QUESTION.. that that the percentage is much lower in Europe and Asia... and that many are corrupt with leftism and Jew hatred.... but those who support Israel are just as supportive as the American gentiles.
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Please do not use inappropriate language on the forum or attempt to bypass the banned word filter.
If you continue, I will lock the thread and delete all the offending posts.
I'm sorry Shlomo! I will calm down, but if anyone insults me, I will insult them! I love Jews, but I will worship no man. I worship Hashem!!!
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בס''ד
There are no trolls in this thread. We should not make assumptions about people if they happen to use inelegant or imprecise language every now and then. We also should not lose our temper if someone makes an incorrect assumption.
The Torah rule is לשפוט לכף זכות which basically means we should give people the benefit of the doubt. That doesn't mean we should be fools. But certainly when dealing with our fellow JTFers, we should give someone the benefit of the doubt unless we have good reason to believe otherwise.
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I'm sorry Shlomo! I will calm down, but if anyone insults me, I will insult them! I love Jews, but I will worship no man. I worship Hashem!!!
בס''ד
Ephraim, if anyone mistakenly insulted you, I apologize to you on behalf of the forum. You are a wonderful person and you deserve the utmost respect and admiration.
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I would like to make amends with Brian and Ephraim and say that I am sorry for this unnecessary dispute. I apologize for my anger as I have not been in the best state of mind due to all the bad news and events that are occurring. Couple that with finding out one of my local food stores has made a Jewish Boycott, I am feeling more on edge than ever.
The last thing I want is to make enemies in a place where Jews really need to bond together. Our survival depends on coming together and helping each other, as these are very troubling times for Israel and the Jewish people, as well as all people who enjoy freedom and prosperity on this Earth.
Briann, I do agree there are many White Protestant (and Catholic) Christians in the USA who respect and support Israel and the Jewish people. I grew up in the Pacific Northwest and was friends with many gentile people, including Christians. I have nothing, but good feelings of many American Christians, who I think are in fact Israel's greatest supporter. I plan on contacting churches in the Olympia area to ask for support against the Jewish Boycott made by the Olympia Food Co-op. The saddest part about it is that there are many Judenratts who work against the Jewish people, especially in the Northwest USA.
I have a bad feeling about Europe, in general, because of its history and the horrible things that happened to my relatives there. However, I know there are noble Europeans who risked their lives for the Jewish people. There is a lot about European culture I like as well, including food, architecture and music.
I admit people make mistakes. I make them, as everyone. I respect what Chaim and others said. Once again, I just seek to bury the hatchet and befriend the proud supporters of this site, who are here for the same reason as me.
Kahane Chai!
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Thankfully, most Jew-hating European women are feminazis and don't desire to have children, so the birthrate of Europeans is decreasingly rapidly to the point where the "white" European continent will inevitably face extinction in the next two or three centuries.
I guess what I am saying is that it is a good thing that the whites of Europe are facing extinction. The reason I bothered to say 'the "white" European continent' and not just "the European continent " is because I don't believe that the population of Europe is facing extinction (because I believe that people who are not white will replace the whites). But then why do I think this population change is a good thing if I believe that there will still be Europeans (who are not white)? Wouldn't the white Europeans be able to transmit their antisemitic culture to the new Europeans, who aren't white, the same way they transmitted it to the next generation of white Europeans in the past? If I believe European Jew hatred is due to culture and not genetics, then it was pointless for me to talk about how I am thankful for the extinction of the white European continent because there will still be Europeans who can be antisemitic. Thus, in order for my relishing in the extinction of the white European continent not to be pointless, I must believe that the Jew hatred of the Europeans has to do with their being white. And when you combine that with the fact that I keep going on about the "Jewish race", it becomes clear that I am here to agitate along racial lines. Long live the Jewish race. It's all about race. I'm definitely not a troll!
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My post there was relating to left-wing, g-dless Jew haters in Europe. Yes, most of the white Europeans who hate Jews are the liberal leftists. The white Europeans who support Israel are generally religious, moral and have larger families. Sadly, in this day and age most right-wing ,, pro-Israel Europeans are limited in number. The European birthrate for white people is becoming alarmingly low. I don't think its a good thing. However, there are so many European liberals who hate Israel.. Many of these same people are becoming homosexuals or don't want have families, as it goes against their liberal ideologies. The numbers are many more times than the white population of USA who is more conservative, has larger families and supports Israel.
Heck, a good number of the people on the board of the Olympia co-op who implemented the Jewish Product Boycott are Nordic-descended lesbians. A good deal of the Pacific Northwest is very Scandinavian. I watched videos of these ladies voice their support for the Palestinians, who most likely would not accept their homosexual way of life in their country.
If you read my post, I mentioned that Europeans (in general) and Arabs both hate the Jews.. A brown Islamic Europe will not be any better, most likely much worse..
I am not getting into this fight again.. GO ahead and bad mouth me if you wish.. I will let Hashem sort things out from now. I can only apologize so many times.
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I would like to make amends with Brian and Ephraim and say that I am sorry for this unnecessary dispute. I apologize for my anger as I have not been in the best state of mind due to all the bad news and events that are occurring. Couple that with finding out one of my local food stores has made a Jewish Boycott, I am feeling more on edge than ever.
The last thing I want is to make enemies in a place where Jews really need to bond together. Our survival depends on coming together and helping each other, as these are very troubling times for Israel and the Jewish people, as well as all people who enjoy freedom and prosperity on this Earth.
Briann, I do agree there are many White Protestant (and Catholic) Christians in the USA who respect and support Israel and the Jewish people. I grew up in the Pacific Northwest and was friends with many gentile people, including Christians. I have nothing, but good feelings of many American Christians, who I think are in fact Israel's greatest supporter. I plan on contacting churches in the Olympia area to ask for support against the Jewish Boycott made by the Olympia Food Co-op. The saddest part about it is that there are many Judenratts who work against the Jewish people, especially in the Northwest USA.
I have a bad feeling about Europe, in general, because of its history and the horrible things that happened to my relatives there. However, I know there are noble Europeans who risked their lives for the Jewish people. There is a lot about European culture I like as well, including food, architecture and music.
I admit people make mistakes. I make them, as everyone. I respect what Chaim and others said. Once again, I just seek to bury the hatchet and befriend the proud supporters of this site, who are here for the same reason as me.
Kahane Chai!
בס''ד
Excellent statement. G-d bless you.
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Sounds good to me....
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Ephraim, if anyone mistakenly insulted you, I apologize to you on behalf of the forum. You are a wonderful person and you deserve the utmost respect and admiration.
I don't know what to say... but thank you Chaim for your kind words! It means a lot!
I will try harder to keep my words under control!
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Sounds good to me....
Shalom Akhi!
BTW.. I wish the Confederacy would have won.. Hope I won't get in trouble for saying that here. :-\ At least I would have had a place to flee after the last election.. Oh well..
Efraim.. In honor of my great grandfather from Belarus, who survived the pogroms, who bears your name, I would like to extend my hand of friendship. I apologize for my harsh words to you.
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Shalom Akhi!
BTW.. I wish the Confederacy would have won.. Hope I won't get in trouble for saying that here. :-\ At least I would have had a place to flee after the last election.. Oh well..
Efraim.. In honor of my great grandfather from Belarus, who survived the pogroms, who bears your name, I would like to extend my hand of friendship. I apologize for my harsh words to you.
How about that, a fellow Belorussian (well Im 1/4)....thankfully... my gramps got the hell out of there..... I actually really liked your screen-name... its one of the more creative ones ive seen.
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Europe is an evil place. How can there be any question?
Now they are being overrun with arabs and their socialist economies are in the death throes. They truly deserve all that will befall them and actually quite a lot more!
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Indeed, but do you wish what socialist Jews deserve to befall them?
I wish for what everyone deserves to befall everyone (except me, I want mercy for myself and for good people like jtfers even if many here probably don't need it but I do).
I was a socialist once, I sold [censored], [censored] random girls, insulted Jews, and both my father and my mother (at least it turned out my father wasn't my father). I think that I deserve to die for more than one reason, but the person I am today can right my wrongs and many others, so what is fair in a dark, cruel place? Europe is an evil, albeit a lesser evil. If we can't learn to love G-d and follow his commandments more than them, G-d help us with Islamists in power.
Individuals can change. Very difficult but I do believe people can change. It sounds like you have tried to improve your life. Good for you.
It's clear to me europe is still the same place that it was when it murdered 1 third of my people. So I do not care what happens to europe.
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Europe is an evil place. How can there be any question?
Now they are being overrun with arabs and their socialist economies are in the death throes. They truly deserve all that will befall them and actually quite a lot more!
Europe is drifting more and more leftwing and will become in the end a socialist collective.
People from Muslim countries are immigrating here, because a socialist economy is an ideal environment for them.
All European countries are living on debts. And this debts are obviously not affordable/redeemable.
The hostility against Israel/Jews is growing and this not only from Muslims.
Morality is going down exponential.
So far the facts. But I disagree that this developments are befalling the Europeans. They crave for it and they love it. Talk to an average man or woman and you will see. A curse has made them blind for the reality.
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I definitely think have to agree with Ulli and Kahane Was Right here.. I don't see a bright future for Europe.. Personally, I would advocate for Jews to leave, as I don't feel like they are safe there. The Toulouse killings and the desecration of synagogues and cemeteries for example. As Ulli says, I have not felt very loved by many Europeans, Muslim or not.
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In time, yes; it would not be fair for good people to be rewarded if evil people would not be punished. Try to understand the works of G-d.
What?
Europe is in its final chance, as are we. What can we do for the sake of the righteous among them, and us? Just the evil people being punished without dragging down others is a fairytale, and you know it.
"We" and europe are not equivalent the way you suggest. I do not care what happens to Europe.
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Europe is drifting more and more leftwing and will become in the end a socialist collective.
People from Muslim countries are immigrating here, because a socialist economy is an ideal environment for them.
All European countries are living on debts. And this debts are obviously not affordable/redeemable.
The hostility against Israel/Jews is growing and this not only from Muslims.
Morality is going down exponential.
So far the facts. But I disagree that this developments are befalling the Europeans. They crave for it and they love it. Talk to an average man or woman and you will see. A curse has made them blind for the reality.
I'm sorry but, am I the only one who sees that every statement you made in your post can be attributed to the United States as well? Sure, there may be more people in the US that don't currently subscribe to these beliefs than there are in Europe but for how long? Does anyone honestly think that the US is going to make an abrupt 180 degree turn for the better?
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I'm sorry but, am I the only one who sees that every statement you made in your post can be attributed to the United States as well? Sure, there may be more people in the US that don't currently subscribe to these beliefs than there are in Europe but for how long? Does anyone honestly think that the US is going to make an abrupt 180 degree turn for the better?
Of cause the USA is going down too, but Europe is more down already.
You have immigrants from Mexiko and other Latinos. In Europe it is Muzz.
Obama fights for the obligatory health insurence in Europe it is already in place plus TV tax (yes some TV stations are owned by the gouvernment and everybody has to pay for it) and caring insurence. In Europe you have no right to say no - you have to make certain contracts or you get punished up to jailtime.
You have the right of free speech. In Europe it is a crime to tell the truth about the world. Not only about the Muzz, but also about the nature. They discuss right now laws to outlaw "climate change-denial".
The public oppinion about Israel is in the USA diversive. In Europe it is nearly monolithic, althrough everybody has had contact with Muzzies - This should teach them a lesson, but something makes them talk about oppressed palestinians althrough.
You see there is a difference in quality of decay.
P.S. I have not read you post carefully, of cause I agree
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Of cause the USA is going down too, but Europe is more down already.
You have immigrants from Mexiko and other Latinos. In Europe it is Muzz.
Obama fights for the obligatory health insurence in Europe it is already in place plus TV tax (yes some TV stations are owned by the gouvernment and everybody has to pay for it) and caring insurence. In Europe you have no right to say no - you have to make certain contracts or you get punished up to jailtime.
You have the right of free speech. In Europe it is a crime to tell the truth about the world. Not only about the Muzz, but also about the nature. They discuss right now laws to outlaw "climate change-denial".
The public oppinion about Israel is in the USA diversive. In Europe it is nearly monolithic, althrough everybody has had contact with Muzzies - This should teach them a lesson, but something makes them talk about oppressed palestinians althrough.
You see there is a difference in quality of decay.
P.S. I have not read you post carefully, of cause I agree
See, I would argue that there is more of a difference in quantity of decay than quality but, at the end of the day, the US will catch up to Europe.
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I don't understand all the rejoicing about the downfall of Europe.First i have a few non Jewish relatives there and believe me they're[my relatives] would die for Israel before 50% of Jews.Second if muzzies take over Europe they will have technology only their muzzie minds can dream of.
And lets not forgot how Avraham pleaded with HaShem about sodom and gommora.That if there was ten righteous would he please not destroy it.
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I definitely think have to agree with Ulli and Kahane Was Right here.. I don't see a bright future for Europe.. Personally, I would advocate for Jews to leave, as I don't feel like they are safe there. The Toulouse killings and the desecration of synagogues and cemeteries for example. As Ulli says, I have not felt very loved by many Europeans, Muslim or not.
TNO
Trust NO one.
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Shalom Akhi!
BTW.. I wish the Confederacy would have won.. Hope I won't get in trouble for saying that here. :-\ At least I would have had a place to flee after the last election.. Oh well..
Efraim.. In honor of my great grandfather from Belarus, who survived the pogroms, who bears your name, I would like to extend my hand of friendship. I apologize for my harsh words to you.
Sounds good to me as well, hand shake! Obviously my name is not a Ephraim, I'm just obsessed with the tribe. I'm A 1630 American, And a descendant of Czech immigrants.
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So much for Europeans being uniquely bad and the Jews' friends being in the far east.
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DeathToIslam (my original ID too, how funny).. I think we Jews have very few friends, whether it is Europe, Asia , South America, even North America. American Christians and Jews are the only friends to the Jews, in any large quantity. There are a lot of Hindu nationalists in India, who may number more than all of UK, Germany, France combined that do support Israel. But, obviously, a country like India, with over a billion people, including 250 million muslims, we will have our share of enemies there as well.
Africa is starting to become like the Middle East with its Islamic fanaticism. Rabbi Kahane made a great point in one of his speeches about how the Africans align themselves with the Arabs, their former slave-traders for their own personal gains.. Its disappointing that a country like Ethiopia, who should be our ally, aligns itself with the Muslims. The entire African continent is cursed IMO..
Latin America is a hotbed of anti-Semitism. I am not a fan of Latin people at all.. They are very socialist and have always been hateful of the Jews. I am sad to say their wrong interpretation of Catholicism, inherited from Spain/Portugal, also has contributed to some of their hatred. However, most of the hatred is because of the connection many Latin Americans feel to socialist causes and the Muslim people. Islam has been very successful and Arabs/Muslims have a strong voice in all Latin American countries. Wasn't Brazil one of the first countries to open their arms to Iran for trade, despite their threats to exterminate the Jewish state?
The whole world, essentially, hates the Jewish people and is embracing the Islamicization and Socialistic governments around the globe. It was just like how everyone supported fascism in Europe in the 1920s and 1930s, people today support Islam and Socialism as their answer to the woes of the Jews and American Christian people, who they hate.
I also find some of the countries on the Abstain list to be quite bizarre: Bosnia? The country is known to be quite anti-Semitic and committed genocide against both Jews and Serbs in WWII, for which they have not been repentant. Republic of Korea? Need I say anything about them. FYRM? A totally Muslim country.. Were they sleeping? Albania?? Bizarre, how they would support Israel.
I guess I don't quite get the reasons for the Abstinence vote by the selected countries. I cannot say it proves they were pro-Israel.