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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Yerusha on April 30, 2013, 06:39:33 PM
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"Jews are always ready to bend over and kiss schvartzer tochuss!" (Chaim 2004).
There are already over 300,000 Negroes in Israel (150,000 Falashas/Falash Mura plus 150,000 legal and illegal migrant workers/infiltrators, mainly Sudanese and Eritreans), not including many W.Bank Sand Arabs, many of whom are more Negroidal than Arab.
And now word has reached Darkest Afrika how good life is in Israel & how generous the Bituach Leumi and Sochnut are in providing $$$ and appartments, that now they ALL want in
http://www.timesofisrael.com/hanging-haman-with-the-igbo-jews-of-abuja/
(http://cdn.timesofisrael.com/uploads/2013/04/A-new-generation-of-Igbos-are-being-raised-with-Judaism.-Photo-Shai-Afsai-965x543.jpg)
"There never was such a thing as "Black Jews". Whoever says there was doesn't know what he's talking about!" (R.Avigdor Miller 1985)
And even as droves of cafe au lait-colored Peruvian peasant Amerindian gentiles are being flown in to Israel http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/167497#.UYBI7stBTn4
honest-to-G-d white-faced bona fide Jews like our Chaim are left to languish in Golus!
A culling, purging & purification of the defiled Holy Land is long-overdue and imminently pending: "When the Moshiach appears in Eretz Yisrael, there will be only 7000 Jews alive to greet him" (R.Avraham Azulai, Chessed l'Avraham)
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When I see the word Abuja, I think of the Nigerian spam mails I get with Abuja in the address of the Bank of Nigeria or some other affirmative action nonsense.
I guess the Black Hebros consider themselves Jews since American blacks, like Nigerians, are for the most part West African.
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Wow, an unbelievable story. They are not Jews but Nigerian converts and now what to do with them? Support them in land where they live or let them immigrate to promised land? Or not support them at all?
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When I see the word Abuja, I think of the Nigerian spam mails I get with Abuja in the address of the Bank of Nigeria or some other affirmative action nonsense.
I guess the Black Hebros consider themselves Jews since American blacks, like Nigerians, are for the most part West African.
These are not black hebros... These are Jewish converts if you read the article...
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And if they converted, they should be treated the same as any other Jew!
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These are not black hebros... These are Jewish converts if you read the article...
Are they are all Halachic Jews?
How can you have millions of them and know whether they are sincere converts?
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Let's call a spade a spade, ok? If these negroes take over, Israel will look like Botswana. It is beyond doubt that blacks, on average, are inferior intellectually to whites. I don't like it either -- but it's true. You know it; I know it.
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Are they are all Halachic Jews?
How can you have millions of them and know whether they are sincere converts?
I don't think the article linked to numbered them in the millions... If I remember the article said something like 4 to 5 thousand Igbo 'Jews'.
In February, I was fortunate to travel to Abuja, capital of Nigeria, where I spent a week with its Igbo Jewish community, visiting synagogues and homes, and celebrating Shabbat and Purim. Most Igbo Jews, numbering perhaps 3,000 to 5,000, live in Igboland, the ancestral Nigerian region of the Igbos. A smaller number of Igbo Jews live in Abuja, where they have three synagogues.
Also I disagree that there are no 'Black Jews'. Nowhere in the Torah does it say that blacks cannot be Jews. As a matter of fact there are hints that Moses spent several years in Ethiopia and even served as a king of Ethiopia. Regarding the 'curse of ham' I have seen the explanation that this curse may not be relevant today, as the descendants of Caanan were the ones who the curse was upon..
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http://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/682297/jewish/Meriting-the-Land-of-Israel.htm
Regarding Moses: he went to the Land of Cush and lived there for forty years, and actually married the wife of the [slain] Ethiopian king, and lived with her [outwardly] as man and wife, as is recounted in the accounts of Moses' life. Even though he did not approach her physically, he was still not buried in the Land of Israel at all, neither his body nor his bones.
The Written Torah does not tell us what happened to Moses between the time when he fled Pharaoh's henchmen, at about the age of 18, and when he became Jethro's shepherd and son-in-law, at about the age of 77. There are a few versions in the Midrashim of what happened, but according to the most detailed one, Moses slew the Egyptian in the year 2386, when he was 18 years old. He fled to Ethiopia, where he joined the army and 9 years later was coronated king. This is when he "married" the widow of the previous king of Ethiopia, or "Cush". He remained king of Ethiopia for 40 years, from 2395 to 2435. In that year, at the age of 67, he left Ethiopia and went to Midian. After the incident with the shepherds at the well, Jethro imprisoned Moses for ten years. Zipporah fed Moses secretly during these ten years, and finally convinced her father to release him. In 2445, at the age of 77, Moses and Zipporah were married, and shortly after had their first son, Gershon. The incident of the burning bush occurred in the year 2447, when Moses was 79 years old. (See Seder HaDorot, s.v. 2386, 2387, 2392, 2435, 2444)
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Let's call a spade a spade, ok? If these negroes take over, Israel will look like Botswana. It is beyond doubt that blacks, on average, are inferior intellectually to whites. I don't like it either -- but it's true. You know it; I know it.
They are brainwashed and held down not inferior, some did pick up additional genes and some did not! And in some cases they choose to live simple lives. Can you live with only your bare hands and the earth? What one finds useful another may find inferior!
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I have known some pretty low-life white folks... Some even worse than the worst blacks I have known... This is why I reject the notion that blacks are inferior by genetics. In the correct environment black people are very nice, caring, and good Jews. I know a couple of black Jewish converts who converted Orthodox.
Opinions on Moses 'Ethiopian Wife':
http://www.torah.org/qanda/seequanda.php?id=628
Moses' Ethiopian wife is mentioned in Num.12:1, but the Midrashim all say that "Kushis" in that verse means "beautiful" and that the wife was Jethro's daughter Zipporah. However, Targum Yonasan takes the Ethiopian wife literally, and the story of Moses' marriage in Ethiopia is also told by Josephus (Antiquities II:10-11) and by the Sefer ha-Yashar (Berlin 1923, p.254). According to the Sefer ha-Yashar, Moses had no relations with that wife because of Abraham's prohibition against marrying Hamitic women. Josephus says that the marriage was consummated, but says nothing about children. Thus Moses' only children were his two sons by Zipporah (Ex. 18:9 3-4).
See also : http://www.shemayisrael.com/parsha/solomon/archives/behaloscha72.htm
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35 million? Umm....
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35 million? Umm....
Did you read the article? It seems to suggest there may be as many as 35 mil but goes on to talk about only 3-5,000 Igbo 'Jews'.
I agree that 35 million seems ridiculous and certainly if 35 mil were converted via scrupulous conversion methods this must be resisted. But 3-5 thousand is not much, and according to the article they are practicing Rabbinic Orthodox Judaism...
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Israel is still experiencing net emigration: 37,000 disgruntled Israelis flee Israel permanently every year. And 24,000 new immigrants arrive.
The Ministry of Absorption has to justify its budget, so it is happy to stuff up its many Absorption Centers with Ethiopian Blacks. Immigrants from Russia and the West refuse to go to Absorption Centers and they don't need "absorbing".
Now that the current 40,000 Falash Mura immigration wave is coming to an end, the Ministry will start replacing them with Igbos, Hottentots and Pygmies: anything to keep receiving $$$ from the government!
But as we know: the more Blacks in a country, the more problems! Blacks are Hamites, and ike their ancestor, they lower the whole tone & standard of living of a country. However the Igbos are tough fighters, and if anywhere they should be shoved in to the Jordanian border camps as a bulwark against the Hashemites.
The Jew cannot help having a soft spot for Blacks, since genetically most Jews are 30% Hamite (from the 2 million Egyptian Erev Rav). Bad Jews even look Negroidal: eg Barbara Streisand, Richard Dreyfuss, Henry Kissinger, Bette Middler etc etc
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Oy Vey Yerusha,
I don't know where you come up with some of this stuff...
Barbara Striesand looks negroidal? Since when?
Weren't the majority of erev rav destroyed after the incident of the Golden Calf?
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If they're all genuine Ger converted, then I don't see a problem.
Only concern I have is the diseases from the continent of Africa emigrating to 10s of millions to Israel.
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I'd rather have some low rent convert Jews fighting next to me than,some stuck up aristocrat Jews!
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This thread reeks of racism!
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Anyone can become Jewish. But are these Nigerian "Jews" really descendants of Jews? They may want to live like Jews and that's fine. Other "lost tribes" have more of a claim than they do. (rant warning)
I believe that all the other "nations" that are suddenly accepted as Jews (Ethiopian Jews, Kaifeng, Bnai Menashe etc..etc..) had some obvious Jewish ancestry in the past. But they are not Jews, just Gentiles from "lost nations" of Jews who are now dead. Obviously their Jewish ancestors intermarried so much and carelessly did NOT build mikva'ot or battei din in their communities- so their intermarriages may not have been valid conversions- or never bothered to convert...so all their descendants today are Gentiles. Their ancestors did not even keep records of who was a Jew and who was not. I am not trying to be racist, this applies to all the "lost Jewish nations" of any race. Those who are Jews have the paperwork to prove it. Those who do not, are not.
It really baffles me. If Moshe and Chava go to a Beis Din to get married, what is the first thing the Beis Din going to ask them to show? Parent's ketubot. Grandparent's ketubot. Any proof of valid Halachic conversions, proof of any get...sometimes even proof of parents or grandparent's burial in Jewish cemeteries.
Without PROOF, Moshe and Chava would NOT be allowed to get married. And without proof, Moshe and Chava would be declared not Jewish and would have to convert. Depending on their situation, it could be a quick "just in case" conversion or a long one or two year process. I have seen cases where a young man and woman want to marry but one had a mother or maternal grandmother who did a "conservative conversion". Or other cases where one came from a former USSR country and lost all documents and had hired investigators to go to Beis Din and show the judges the proof. It's not a simple process.
But if you are a "Jew" from Africa, India, the Amazon, China etc... and you have NO proof of Jewishness....it's ok. It doesn't matter, you're just a lost Jew who deserves to make Aliyah and can be recognized as completely Jewish. I must be missing something. Sfardic Jews, Mizrachi Jews, Ashkenazic Jews etc are Jews today, because when their ancestors were establishing their communities, they were very protective of their Jewishness and made sure they were careful to keep records and religious courts. But all others whose ancestors were careless in this regard, never bothered to build courts etc... they can be declared Jewish at any time. No problem, especially if they are not white, then of course they can be declared "lost Jews". How many more people will now declare themselves to be "lost Jews". There really needs to be some definitive ruling on this. Any Gentile can want to become Jewish, that does not mean they are or should be...unless they can live up to the 613 laws. And now whole groups of people are desperate and want to be Jewish out of their own desperate delusion that they are now declaring themselves lost tribes. And it has to stop. Convert to Judaism if you can live up to it. Otherwise, stay a Gentile. Your ancestors did not provide you with a Jewish identity for a reason, so either accept it and convert or stay a Gentile but please stop trying to force yourselves into Judaism as a "lost tribe".
As far as these Black people. If they sincerely converted then they are welcomed as Jews. Obviously. And let's not forget that there are plenty of black Jews who have black Gentile fathers and white Jewish mothers, so yes there are black Jews from birth too.
My only concern is that Israel is a small country....honestly, how many people can it absorb? (And as far as Israel loosing immigrants, Jews from first world nations would be more freely able to leave Israel but these people from third world countries have nothing to go back to, so they will stay). And second, the greatest concern is- how many of these people convert to Judaism out of a deep desire to be a light unto all nations and serve Hashem and accept the Yoke of the Torah? And how many may have ulterior motives? In other words, are they all sincere converts? Or are they converting just so that they can get a better life? I thought that to be able to immigrate after a conversion, people have to live one year in a Jewish community and show their sincerity. Hopefully these couple thousand people who are arriving to Israel as Jews are complete and total SINCERE converts who want to add to the Jewish nation in the goal of blessing the world and not have any ulterior motives. (May they add to a religious community and not end up going back to their former ways or having their kids think they're Jews but running around Israel half-naked at parties on Friday nights) Not like the new Ethiopian Miss Israel and others- who don't care about Judaism.
Those who are arriving to Israel and did an insincere conversion for the purpose of a better life only- may end up (or their descendants) becoming a curse to the Jewish people.
In the end, them arriving to Israel is what Hashem has allowed to happen. Hopefully it is for the best.
Rant over
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The Lubavitcher Rebbe warned about the Falashas in 1985: "There must be no mass importation of spurious Blacks in to Israel. Any conversions to be performed outside of Israel and on an individual one-by-one basis".
Instead the Israeli uberdumpfs flew in Jumbo-loads at a time full of them, having arranged mikvas for them at Ben Gurion Airport arrivals lounge for mass "Jewish baptism", which they promptly refused categorically to do after having beeen incited by Israeli Leftists and Subversives that to do so would be "racist"!
Remember that the Israeli governments actually have an interest in de-Judaizing Israel and diluting even further what little genuine Abrahamitic blood remains in us , to the point of extinction: they want a nation of "Hebrew-speaking Swedes/Nigerian goyim" - not a country of "genuinely-Jewish Kahanist-CBP Torah zealots"!
Judaism is not a proselytizing religion & we are not interested in the mass conversion of goyim: "Converts will not be accepted in the days of the Moshiach, just as they were not accepted in the days of Shlomoh" (Talmud Avoda Zara)
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I will try to ignore the malevolent hatred of Yerusha (time to ban this troll AGAIN IMO) and just treat the topic itself.
I don't think any of the Igbo is a true ger. Their belief of being lost Jews has no validity, they are not zera Israel and even if 2500 years ago some Jew was raped and cannibalized by their ancestors that doesn't mean they are entitle to be recognized as lost Jews. Therefore I won't recognized any sort of group/mass conversions by them. If there are individuals who wants to become Jews let them undergo the usual path, without cutbacks, without some "rabbi" visiting them in the Jungle village and proclaiming they are Jews now.
And I also think that there are too many people in the suchnut and in the ministry of absorption that need to justify their existence so they are going to keep finding "lost" Jews in shitholes all over the world at the same rate that their previous batch of "Jews" is being absorbed into Israel and out of their hands. They need to keep the budget flowing.
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Even worse than the endless droves of black-colored Nigerian "Jews", yellow-colored Kaifeng "Jews", and cafe-au-lait colored Peruvian "Jews", could be when the Sochnut agrees with quasi-Kahanist Yair Davidy's theory www.britam.org that most of White Europe, America and Australasia peoples are of ancient Ten Lost Tribe origins, and that they too have Right of Return.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USAZi_ocp2w
Imagine 200,000 White American Oklahoman Budweiser-swilling Rednecks descending on Jerusalem with the legal status of Jews!
Hashem has promised that there will always remain a pure stock sprout of genuine-from-the Avos Jews,.
But just a few too many goyim/geirim/quasi geirim/gerei toshav are let in, that sprout will be swamped and extinguished, and then the Creation ceases to exist.
We want to "judaize/noahidize" the gentiles, but not to make them actual Jews.
We are not racist: but we are racialist. Racialism (which is not the same as racism) is a foundation of the Torah!
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Imagine 200,000 White American Oklahoman Budweiser-swilling Rednecks descending on Jerusalem with the legal status of Jews!
Yeah, I can! The settlements would probably be safer... Some of those "rednecks" have more respect for others than you do.
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Another nutty thread by this troll. Full of paranoia and probably the product of someone who doesn't sleep enough.
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Another nutty thread by this troll. Full of paranoia and probably the product of someone who doesn't sleep enough.
Wonga?
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Wonga?
Yes. The funny thing he usually doesn't even deny that he is the same banned troll that returns with a new name every time he is booted out.
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Even worse than the endless droves of black-colored Nigerian "Jews", yellow-colored Kaifeng "Jews", and cafe-au-lait colored Peruvian "Jews", could be when the Sochnut agrees with quasi-Kahanist Yair Davidy's theory www.britam.org that most of White Europe, America and Australasia peoples are of ancient Ten Lost Tribe origins, and that they too have Right of Return.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USAZi_ocp2w
Imagine 200,000 White American Oklahoman Budweiser-swilling Rednecks descending on Jerusalem with the legal status of Jews!
Hashem has promised that there will always remain a pure stock sprout of genuine-from-the Avos Jews,.
But just a few too many goyim/geirim/quasi geirim/gerei toshav are let in, that sprout will be swamped and extinguished, and then the Creation ceases to exist.
We want to "judaize/noahidize" the gentiles, but not to make them actual Jews.
We are not racist: but we are racialist. Racialism (which is not the same as racism) is a foundation of the Torah!
I forgot that mans name in the video but he's on Arutz Sheva many people think he might be rightI can understand some people might be take aback by him due to the anti Semitism that was in Europe and still emanates from Europe.But we know Israel at times fought with each other.Not all of the time but sometimes i now remember Yair Davidi he's an Australian Jew religious who lives in Israel a long time http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/audio-can-dna-researchers-identify-the-lost-ten-tribes/
http://www.britam.org/ContentsSubject.html#Guest
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Yes. The funny thing he usually doesn't even deny that he is the same banned troll that returns with a new name every time he is booted out.
He does seem to keep coming back. i think im missing something
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I don't think it is racist at all to not want 35 million Nigerians in your country.
On the surface you can say they are the same just a different skin color...... I don't care what the skin color, it is their 3rd world ways and atrocious hygiene practices, ignorance and crime prone behavior that I don't like.
Anyone who has lived around a group of Nigerians, Somalians, etc. knows what I am talking about. Sure there are some that are great people but they certainly aren't the norm.
Let them claim to be Judaized if they like, just do it in their own country.
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I don't think it is racist at all to not want 35 million Nigerians in your country.
On the surface you can say they are the same just a different skin color...... I don't care what the skin color, it is their 3rd world ways and atrocious hygiene practices, ignorance and crime prone behavior that I don't like.
Anyone who has lived around a group of Nigerians, Somalians, etc. knows what I am talking about. Sure there are some that are great people but they certainly aren't the norm.
Let them claim to be Judaized if they like, just do it in their own country.
Yeah, and all Ashkenazi Jews smell like peaches... Those Jews with big noses, gotta watch out for them.. And those foreheads...
I also don't believe that millions have converted, I believe the article states around 4,000 converted..
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Yeah, and all Ashkenazi Jews smell like peaches... Those Jews with big noses, gotta watch out for them.. And those foreheads...
I also don't believe that millions have converted, I believe the article states around 4,000 converted..
They are not true converts. When an entire tribe "converts" in order to emigrate so they can live off of Jewish welfare, I call this fraud, or in this case- a Nigerian scam.
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They are not true converts. When an entire tribe "converts" in order to emigrate so they can live off of Jewish welfare, I call this fraud, or in this case- a Nigerian scam.
Did you read the article? From that article it seems like more than a 'nigerian' scam... Also I don't see that an 'entire tribe' converted... And where is 'welfare' discussed?
The article doesn't even suggest that they want to make Aliyah to Israel aside from making pilgrimages on the holidays...
In February, I was fortunate to travel to Abuja, capital of Nigeria, where I spent a week with its Igbo Jewish community, visiting synagogues and homes, and celebrating Shabbat and Purim. Most Igbo Jews, numbering perhaps 3,000 to 5,000, live in Igboland, the ancestral Nigerian region of the Igbos. A smaller number of Igbo Jews live in Abuja, where they have three synagogues.
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Igbo Jews hope one day soon to be able make pilgrimages to Israel. In their efforts to assert their Judaism and Jewish identity in Nigeria, they look to the Jews of Israel for inspiration and solidarity.
I must say that if they have gone through, or do go through, halachic conversion they should be accepted.
Remember that the entire nation of Kahzaria converted and those conversions were accepted.
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/Kuzari/
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Yeah, and all Ashkenazi Jews smell like peaches... Those Jews with big noses, gotta watch out for them.. And those foreheads...
I also don't believe that millions have converted, I believe the article states around 4,000 converted..
By hygiene I do not mean smell..... I am talking about people who see nothing wrong with crapping in the same stream they get their water from...... hand washing is a totally foreign concept......... majority are TB positive (and very few will correctly take medication for it) and do not understand it is bad to hack and cough all over others, or in their hand then immediately prepare your meal. People who see nothing wrong with slaughtering a goat in their front yard or settling disputes with a machete or other violence the way they did in their homeland.
The big nose and head are physical attributes, no one said anything about that other than I don't care what color they are.
Despite liberal Utopian "everyone is the same" ideology, the fact is they are not..... just as not all religions share the same legitimacy. islam vs. Judaism vs. Christianity vs. Hinduism vs. Buddhism... would you feel equally with any one of these as neighbors?
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I don't want to argue with anyone, the above message is just my personal opinion. I base it on my limited life experiences.
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Did you read the article? From that article it seems like more than a 'nigerian' scam... Also I don't see that an 'entire tribe' converted... And where is 'welfare' discussed?
Every African household costs the welfare system of Israel well over ILS1,000,000. At least the Sudanese and the Eritreans travel to Israel at their own expenses. These Nigerians expect us to assume all costs including shipping and delivery. And they will become full citizens the instant they land on Israeli soil, so then they can bring in more Nigerians by "family union" procedure.
I read this line:
"The Igbo nation is part of Israel,” Caliben affirms". The Igbo nation is 18% of Nigeria, about 30 million people.
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Did you read the article? From that article it seems like more than a 'nigerian' scam... Also I don't see that an 'entire tribe' converted... And where is 'welfare' discussed?
The article doesn't even suggest that they want to make Aliyah to Israel aside from making pilgrimages on the holidays...
I must say that if they have gone through, or do go through, halachic conversion they should be accepted.
Remember that the entire nation of Kahzaria converted and those conversions were accepted.
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/Kuzari/
Oh gosh "The Khazar Jews" I think they were converted to Islam subsequently...Interstingly I think Yemen was a huge Jewish community to at some point that got converted to Islam
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I have a solution to this problem... Launch a holy war against Islam and take all of their land. They convert to B'nai Noach or they die! Problem solved, now there's plenty of room in Israel!
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I forgot that mans name in the video but he's on Arutz Sheva many people think he might be rightI can understand some people might be take aback by him due to the anti Semitism that was in Europe and still emanates from Europe.But we know Israel at times fought with each other.Not all of the time but sometimes i now remember Yair Davidi he's an Australian Jew religious who lives in Israel a long time http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/audio-can-dna-researchers-identify-the-lost-ten-tribes/
http://www.britam.org/ContentsSubject.html#Guest
Mord have you seen this one?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXejvjVq2ss&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Typical Leftist "bleeding heart" Judeo-Israeli judge's ruling now ensures that every Negroe coming in to Israel will be bringing a squalling Negroe brat with them!http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4374805,00.html
Only one thing might stop this mass influx of Negroes: if Ashkenazic Haredi seminary girls in Bnei Brak start getting raped by the illegal Kushanim infiltrators across Rehov Jabotinsky in Pardes Katz, then mebbe, jus' mebbe we might have a Haredi riot worth talking about that will put intolerable pressure on Saar to actually putting these Black mistonnenim on planes back to the Dark Continent from whence they originated! The Sefrad indigens of South Tel Aviv have shown themselves to be unable to muster enough violent muscle to stop the Black invasion, remembering that peaceful demonstrations in Israel achieve less than nothing!
(http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02406/congo_2406801b.jpg)
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You're wishing rape on Jewish girls? WHAT THE FFFF IS WRONG WITH YOU?
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We don't want anybody raped. But that is the only thing that will galvanize the Haredim who are the only ones who have the numbers en masse to save the State from the tsunami of Blacks.
Otherwise in 10 years time there'll be an Israeli government-in-exile meeting in London as to how they lost the State of Israel without firing a shot due to criminally sloppy border control and un-Torah subversive "Jewish bleeding hearts"!
As Chaim says:
"Once Blacks move in, they NEVER leave and it's the END OF THE NEIGHBOURHOOD!"
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/ultra-orthodox-town-of-bnei-brak-moves-to-evict-migrant-workers-1.327780
(http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.327832.1291088413!/image/2608418905.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_640/2608418905.jpg)
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Every African household costs the welfare system of Israel well over ILS1,000,000. At least the Sudanese and the Eritreans travel to Israel at their own expenses. These Nigerians expect us to assume all costs including shipping and delivery. And they will become full citizens the instant they land on Israeli soil, so then they can bring in more Nigerians by "family union" procedure.
I read this line:
"The Igbo nation is part of Israel,” Caliben affirms". The Igbo nation is 18% of Nigeria, about 30 million people.
It's like Ethiopians say they are all from "the line of Solomon", not just the Ethiopian Jews. Even Ovadiah Yosef who ruled they are Jewish and don't need to convert says they are from Dan, not Judah. Judah isn't even a lost tribe.
I think I heard as far back as the year 2000 that Igbos say they are descended from Kohanim who only married local black women and converted them. Since when do Kohanim marry converts? And obviously as they are not rabbis, they don't have the power to convert. I heard they have the Kohen Y Chromosone as do many other Africans. But they are clearly not Jewish since their mothers are not Jewish and definetely not Kohanim.
At least Ethiopians (both Jewish and Non-Jewish) have Semitic facial features. The nation of Kush are racially white Hamites with black skin. The black race diverged from Kush and are known as Congoids. There are also Capoids (The blacks of the Kalahari Desert who are hunters and gatherers to this day.). Ethiopians speak a Hamitic langauge which like other Hamitic langagues (Like Ancient Egyptian) are related to Semitic langauges. But to claim that all of Ethiopia is decended from Jews is border line "We da original Hebros.". To claim any other part of Africa is from the real Jews is just the same as the Black Hebros of Dimona. There is no relation between some blacks in the deep dark parts of Africa that have no relation with Ancient Israel and the Jewish People. Only Arabs who Islamized parts of Africa introduced them to the outside World and Europe's connection with them is limited to the slave trade and later colonization of Africa. What does a white Jew or European want to go to such a country like Nigeria, Congo, or the Central African Republic for (or other place deep in the middle of the jungle.)? At least South Africa has white places and North Africa was once civilized in Roman times before being Arabized. Maybe people like safaris in Kenya which is East Africa, but West Africa and Central Africa are dark and deep in the jungle (It's like going alone in Harlem in the middle of the night.).
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The Sefrad indigens of South Tel Aviv have shown themselves to be unable to muster enough violent muscle to stop the Black invasion, remembering that peaceful demonstrations in Israel achieve less than nothing!
What is a Sefrad? Do you mean the Ashkenazic mispronunciation of Sefarad (Spain)? Sfardic Jews are not Spain. Sfardic Jews are Sefaradim and follow Nusach Sefarad. It's like saying American Jews are the United States or calling Ashkenazic Jews "Germany". Sfardic Jews call themselves by the adjective Sefaradim, not by your mispronunciation of Spain or the real pronuciatian of Spain. And if Ashkenazim call themsleves Ashkenaz, it's just bad grammar. I guess you're just like the Ebonics speakers that you don't like that also speak incorrectly. It's okay to say Yehudei Sefarad or Yehudei Ashkenaz. It means Jews of Spain or Jews of Ashkenaz. But you don't call us Sefards. It's like calling us "Spains" in English.
You've spoken against Sefaradim in the past.
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I have a solution to this problem... Launch a holy war against Islam and take all of their land. They convert to B'nai Noach or they die! Problem solved, now there's plenty of room in Israel!
Great idea! אפרים בן נח for president.
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http://www.chabad.org/kabbalah/article_cdo/aid/682297/jewish/Meriting-the-Land-of-Israel.htm
Regarding Moses: he went to the Land of Cush and lived there for forty years, and actually married the wife of the [slain] Ethiopian king, and lived with her [outwardly] as man and wife, as is recounted in the accounts of Moses' life. Even though he did not approach her physically, he was still not buried in the Land of Israel at all, neither his body nor his bones.
The Written Torah does not tell us what happened to Moses between the time when he fled Pharaoh's henchmen, at about the age of 18, and when he became Jethro's shepherd and son-in-law, at about the age of 77. There are a few versions in the Midrashim of what happened, but according to the most detailed one, Moses slew the Egyptian in the year 2386, when he was 18 years old. He fled to Ethiopia, where he joined the army and 9 years later was coronated king. This is when he "married" the widow of the previous king of Ethiopia, or "Cush". He remained king of Ethiopia for 40 years, from 2395 to 2435. In that year, at the age of 67, he left Ethiopia and went to Midian. After the incident with the shepherds at the well, Jethro imprisoned Moses for ten years. Zipporah fed Moses secretly during these ten years, and finally convinced her father to release him. In 2445, at the age of 77, Moses and Zipporah were married, and shortly after had their first son, Gershon. The incident of the burning bush occurred in the year 2447, when Moses was 79 years old. (See Seder HaDorot, s.v. 2386, 2387, 2392, 2435, 2444)
Why would Jethro have imprisoned Moses after the incident at the well?
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I read in the Lightcatcher Books version of Sefer HaYashar by Wayne Simpson that he believes Ethiopia in the Midrash is actually Upper Egypt (Southern Egypt meaning the Upper Nile.). One of the Pharoahs listed un the list of Pharaohs according to him is actually Moses. He said there's Egypt and then there's Egypt. Also the Noahide Jim Long writes about how Egyptoligists inflate the years of Egyptian dyansties and stack one after the other while some were ruling at the same time in different areas. Maybe Halachic Kush is Southern Egypt and then when Kush moved more South, they became "[censored]".
Also, Jim Long writes that the events in Sefer HaYashar match Egyptian archeological records of the Old Dynasty which was not around 2500 B.C.E. like Egyptoligists say but rather at the time of the Exodux (About 1400 B.C.E. which fits in well with the 163 year discepancy in which Chazal deleted years from the Babylonian Exile count.).
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They have their OWN country.
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Also, Jim Long writes that the events in Sefer HaYashar match Egyptian archeological records of the Old Dynasty which was not around 2500 B.C.E. like Egyptoligists say but rather at the time of the Exodux (About 1400 B.C.E. which fits in well with the 163 year discepancy in which Chazal deleted years from the Babylonian Exile count.).
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/5096
Judaism: Why Do We Live in the Year 5765?
Published: Sunday, May 08, 2005 3:54 PM
The prophets who prophesized in Babylonia, and in the Land of Israel, left us many descriptions of the future redemption. Some of the most intriguing prophecies seem to exactly define the timing of the redemption. Without a correct understanding of the Jewish year count, a proper interpretation of these intriguing prophecies is not possible.
Moshe Lerman
Moshe Lerman writes from Enav, in northern Samaria. Enav is expanding; contact Moshe for contributions to the Building Fund.
The prophets who prophesized in Babylonia, and shortly after the end of the Babylonian exile in the Land of Israel, left us many descriptions of the future redemption. Some of the most intriguing prophecies seem to exactly define the timing of the redemption. It seems to me that without a correct understanding of the Jewish year count, a proper interpretation of these intriguing prophecies is not possible.
I therefore offer my humble ideas about the matter of the years in the trust that we live in the time about which is written: "For the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall purify themselves, and make themselves white, and be tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly. And none of the wicked shall understand, but the wise shall understand." (Daniel 12: 9-10)
The Babylonian exile brought the Jewish sages and prophets into contact with the sages of Babylonia, who possessed advanced astronomical wisdom. Importantly, they knew the exact timing of the solar equinox events, the times when the Sun - twice yearly - passes the equator. This subject was of great interest to the Jewish exiles, because of a tradition that the Sun was created at the spring-equinox position, on the fourth day of Creation, which was the fourth day of the first week of the first month (Nissan) of the first year.
At the time, the accepted wisdom of the world was that 19 solar years have exactly 235 lunar months and that a solar year is 365.25 days. An immediate mathematical consequence of the latter is that every 28 years the equinoxes are at the same hour of the same day of the week (28 quarter days make a full week).
After the initial return to the Land of Israel, during the first decennia after the completion of the second Beit HaMikdash, it seems that Ezra and the Men of the Great Assembly (Knesset HaGedolah) applied their knowledge in an exceptionally brilliant way.
The creativity of the sages was spurred by observations regarding the spring equinox. Given astronomical facts, these observations could have been made in a limited number of years in a relatively short historical period. For the sake of clarity I will restrict myself to two likely candidates: I will assume that the starting points of the sages' reasoning were the spring equinoxes of the years 9 and 13 after the completion of the second Beit HaMikdash. I will denote these years as 9 ABS and 13 ABS (After Bayit Sheni).
In the year 9 ABS, the spring equinox was on the fourth day of the week, in the first part of the night from Tuesday to Wednesday. In the year 13 ABS, four years later, the equinox was on the fourth day of the month Nissan, at virtually the same hour of the early night.
The sages surmised that the absolute year count of the year 13 ABS had to be a multiple of 19 plus one. After all, in the year one - by assumption the year of the Sun's creation - the equinox had been on the fourth of Nissan, and that situation repeats itself only and exactly every 19 years. Similarly, they concluded that the absolute year count of the year 9 ABS had to be a multiple of 28 plus one. After all, in year one the equinox had been on the fourth day of the week, and that situation repeats itself only and exactly every 28 years. Conversely, the sages could deduce from the reality of their day that the equinox of year one had been early in the night.
In other words, the sages specified what we know in the Jewish calendar as the Machzor HaKatan (the 19-year cycle) and the Machzor HaGadol (the 28-year cycle). The Machzor HaKatan is the basis for the determination of the leap years of the Jewish calendar, and therefore plays an essential role in Jewish law. By contrast, the Machzor HaGadol has no intrinsic function, but our sages gave it an artificial role by assigning to it a Halacha of its own. The Talmud states the following teaching:
"One who sees the Sun at the beginning of its cycle should say the blessing "blessed is the Maker of Creation". When does this happen? Abaye said: "Every 28 years the cycle begins again and the Nissan equinox falls in Shabtai, on the evening of Tuesday, the night before Wednesday." (Berachot 59)
In other words, the sages ordained that every 28 years - to be precise, every 10227 (28 times 365.25) days - a blessing should be recited to commemorate the beginning of a new cycle of the Machzor HaGadol.
Interestingly, the teaching specifies the detailed timing of the relevant equinox: Shabtai is the beginning of the night that starts the fourth day of the week, in accordance with the reality of the year 9 ABS. The teaching insinuates that every 28 years the equinox would return to this specific hour on the fourth day of the week. The truth, however, is that after the time of the Knesset HaGedolah this would never again be the case, the reason being that the solar year is a little (0.0078 days) shorter than 365.25 days.
We now live some 2350 years after the period in which the above teaching was literally true. A simple computation shows that the cycle of the Machzor HaGadol shifted some 18.3 days in 2350 years, 0.0078 days per year. Nowadays, we say the Blessing of the Sun on April 8 of years that are a multiple of 28 plus one. Note that the Machzor HaGadol has no direct relation with the lunar calendar. Hence, the date of the Blessing of the Sun varies in the Jewish calendar; it can be in virtually all of the month of Nissan. By contrast, it is on a fixed date in the solar calendar - except for the slow shift that we are discussing here. The next time we will say the Blessing of the Sun will be in the year 5769, when 18.3 days after the spring equinox (March 20, 1.44 pm, Jerusalem time) will indeed end up early in the night from Tuesday April 7 to Wednesday April 8.
The spring equinox moved similarly away from the fourth of Nissan of the first year of the Machzor HaKatan, because a solar year is a little (0.00462 days) shorter than the formula of 235 months per 19 years implies. After 2350 years, the shift accumulated to 10.8 days. In agreement with this, the fourth of Nissan of the first year of the Machzor HaKatan is now alternating between March 31 and April 1.
In summary, the available data quite definitively indicates that the Blessing of the Sun was instituted about 2350 years ago, very close to the time of the gathering of the Knesset HaGedolah. This is a very nice insight, but it does not solve a burning and often asked question about the Blessing of the Sun. The obligation to say this blessing seems a purely technical Halacha, devoid of any substance. After all, it seems obvious that there is nothing special about the one day per 28 years that the Halacha applies. What could be its purpose?
I will argue that the best answer is hidden in another enactment of the Men of the Knesset HaGedolah. The reader is warned that in the process we will discover something that comes very close to a definite refutation of a commonly held belief among religious Jews.
Why is the current year 5765 after Creation? Did indeed 5765 years pass since Creation? Who determined the year count and how?
Most likely, an official year count did not exist before and during the time of the first Beit HaMikdash. The lack of a reliable tradition in this area did not deter the Men of the Knesset HaGedolah. They brilliantly understood that the correct year count could be derived from astronomical data.
I propose that they reasoned as follows. They pointed out that the year that was 228 (12 times 19) years before 13 ABS was also 224 (8 times 28) years before 9 ABS. Because of its distance from 13 ABS, its absolute year count had to be a multiple of 19 plus one, and because of its distance from 9 ABS, its absolute year count had to be a multiple of 28 plus one. Therefore, the year count of the year that was 224 years before the year 9 ABS had to be one plus a multiple of 532, 19 times 28. The sages decided that this special year was the year 3193 after Creation. They had in fact little choice; 532 years more or 532 years less than 3193 were the closest other options, but these numbers were quite manifestly less acceptable in the light of biblical history.
From the retroactive identification of the year 3193 it followed that the second Beit HaMikdash had been completed in the year 3408. Therefore, the year 9 ABS became the year 3417, and year 13 ABS became year 3421. And this, my reader, is why we now live in the year 5765.
In summary, the Jewish year count was established using the ingredients of the halacha of the Blessing of the Sun: the Machzor HaGadol and the timing of the spring equinox. This is a strong indication that the Blessing of the Sun and the enactment of the year count came from the same genius, very likely one of sages of the Knesset HaGedolah. Though this seems an interesting contention, how could this shed light on the purpose of the Blessing of the Sun?
The above reflections seemingly suffer from an internal contradiction. We explicitly assumed that the sages knew the precise timing of the spring equinox. The assumption is in fact strengthened by the above Talmudic teaching, which confirms that indeed they knew. How then could they believe that the year has exactly 365.25 days? They must have observed that the distance between adjacent spring equinoxes is a little less than 365.25 days!
It is clear that our sages knew that the year is not exactly 365.25 days. They did therefore not really think that the year count that they established was correct with respect to the past. Quite likely, they were not at all interested in the past. Their responsibility was to establish and maintain Jewish unity in a troubled period in which most Jews continued to live in Exile. The sages worried about the future rather than the past, and wanted to establish a year count that would be accepted by all Jews as a common reference, until the end of time. The above construction of the "correct" year after Creation therefore certainly served its purpose. It must have been brilliantly persuasive in the ancient world.
This, however, raises another question. Our sages were no politicians or salesmen. They were Torah scholars, extremely truthful men. Is it conceivable that they lied to achieve a measure of unity? Our sages did not really cover up anything. They merely hid certain things from the average Jew. Students of kabbalah and astronomy have always silently known that the age of the world is not according to common belief.
In this context, I would like to suggest that the purpose of above teaching goes beyond the establishment of a Halacha, and is a precious hint from our truthful sages. In this view, the seemingly esoteric Blessing of the Sun in fact has a profound purpose: It conserved for thousands of years the true background of the Jewish year count.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWY9RSW6BEs
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quoting from yerusha
And even as droves of cafe au lait-colored Peruvian peasant Amerindian gentiles are being flown in to Israel http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/167497#.UYBI7stBTn4
The link said that group did not receive a valid conversion, but rather a "Conservative" conversion, which is accepted by
the non-religious government of Israel, but not by those really committed to Torah and Jewish law.
Skin color by itself does not appear to be a reason to accept or reject a potential convert, but lack of total committment to Judaism is a reason to reject them. And of course the motivation for conversion has to be a religious motivation and not some materialistic incentive.
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I do not appreciate trying to use certain words to bypass the forum rules and word filter. I'll let this one slide. Do not do it again.
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It's like Ethiopians say they are all from "the line of Solomon", not just the Ethiopian Jews. Even Ovadiah Yosef who ruled they are Jewish and don't need to convert says they are from Dan, not Judah. Judah isn't even a lost tribe.
I think I heard as far back as the year 2000 that Igbos say they are descended from Kohanim who only married local black women and converted them. Since when do Kohanim marry converts? And obviously as they are not rabbis, they don't have the power to convert. I heard they have the Kohen Y Chromosone as do many other Africans. But they are clearly not Jewish since their mothers are not Jewish and definetely not Kohanim.
At least Ethiopians (both Jewish and Non-Jewish) have Semitic facial features. The nation of Kush are racially white Hamites with black skin. The black race diverged from Kush and are known as Congoids. There are also Capoids (The blacks of the Kalahari Desert who are hunters and gatherers to this day.). Ethiopians speak a Hamitic langauge which like other Hamitic langagues (Like Ancient Egyptian) are related to Semitic langauges. But to claim that all of Ethiopia is decended from Jews is border line "We da original Hebros.". To claim any other part of Africa is from the real Jews is just the same as the Black Hebros of Dimona. There is no relation between some blacks in the deep dark parts of Africa that have no relation with Ancient Israel and the Jewish People. Only Arabs who Islamized parts of Africa introduced them to the outside World and Europe's connection with them is limited to the slave trade and later colonization of Africa. What does a white Jew or European want to go to such a country like Nigeria, Congo, or the Central African Republic for (or other place deep in the middle of the jungle.)? At least South Africa has white places and North Africa was once civilized in Roman times before being Arabized. Maybe people like safaris in Kenya which is East Africa, but West Africa and Central Africa are dark and deep in the jungle (It's like going alone in Harlem in the middle of the night.).
The Ethiopians don't claim they all descend from Jews, they say their ancient king Menelic was the son of King Solomon and Queen of Sheba. Ethiopian royalties claim they descend from that Menelic and one of the title of their king is "true lion of Judea". However, they (the Ethiopian church) believe in replacement theology according to their belief their King Menelic had stolen the Ark of the Covenant from the temple in Jerusalem and brought it with him to Ethiopia where they claim it is still stored in some church. They claim since that event they are the true Israel and their land of Ethiopia is the holy land.
Of course to me their theology and myths are pure rubbish but at least they don't expect Israel to start letting in millions of Ethiopian gentiles in on account of their imaginary connection to the Israelites.
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Anyone can be a Jew if converted properly.
The Israeli government considers almost anything that resembles a Jew to be a Jew even not halakhicly. Many people from different countries including Russia, have infiltrated into Israel without truly being Jewish and have ruined cities.
Are these Nigerians really Jews? I bet some of them will be outstanding citizens. But I'm sure amongst that bunch there will be infiltrators.
Israel has dual intentions. Yes they want to save Jews but the secular self hating ranks want to prove something to the world by acting politically correct.
The appropriate thing to do with the discovered immigrants is to put them through yeshiva and smoke out the fakers and send them back where they came from.
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I do not appreciate trying to use certain words to bypass the forum rules and word filter. I'll let this one slide. Do not do it again.
I thought Negro was an okay word. Yerusha meant to use the verb "to Negro" which means "to make black" or "blacken" or "blackify".
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I thought Negro was an okay word. Yerusha meant to use the verb "to Negro" which means "to make black" or "blacken" or "blackify".
Same here. I thought it was the Spanish word for "black."
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Are these Nigerians really Jews? I bet some of them will be outstanding citizens. But I'm sure amongst that bunch there will be infiltrators.
Israel already has Nigerian foreign workers, many of whom are illegal. So many of the foreign workers can hide amongst them.
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Israel already has Nigerian foreign workers, many of whom are illegal. So many of the foreign workers can hide amongst them.
I didn't knew Israel had Nigerian workers. I knew there workers from Asian countries though.
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I didn't knew Israel had Nigerian workers. I knew there workers from Asian countries though.
South Tel Aviv has all the garbage. Sudanese infriltrators, Nigerians, and illegal workers from Thailand and other Southeast Asian countries.
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South Tel Aviv has all the garbage. Sudanese infriltrators, Nigerians, and illegal workers from Thailand and other Southeast Asian countries.
Really? And I thought we had it bad with the illegal immigrants. At least the Asians do work.
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Really? And I thought we had it bad with the illegal immigrants. At least the Asians do work.
I would gladly exchange every African alien we have got with one latino illegal alien you have got.
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And now suddenly another large tribe of Blacks, this time the Gogodola Tribe of Papua-New Guinea of all places, claim that they are of Israelite origin and are demanding Aliya, money and appartments, with the Israelis keen to oblige!
http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/05/07/british-indiana-jones-examines-evidence-for-jewish-origin-of-papua-new-guinea-tribe-interview/
(http://media.israelhayom.co.il/2013/04/24/136679890857686157a_b.jpg)
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Papua-New Guinea is not a Negro black country. They're related racially to the Aborigines of Australia. They only thing they have in common with Negroes is black skin. But they are a separate race.
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Papua-New Guinea is not a Negro black country. They're related racially to the Aborigines of Australia. They only thing they have in common with Negroes is black skin. But they are a separate race.
But they are almost a separate human species.
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Halachically they are Hamites but so are the white natives of North Africa.
Australoid Race
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Australoid race is a broad racial classification. The concept originated with a typological method of racial classification.[1][2][3] They were described as having dark skin with wavy hair, in the case of the Veddoid race from Sri Lanka and other parts of South Asia (including the eponymous Vedda people autochthonous to Sri Lanka) and Aboriginal Australians, or hair ranging from straight to kinky in the case of Papuan, Melanesian and Negrito groups.
According to this model of classification, Australoid peoples ranged throughout Indonesia, Malaysia, Australia, New Guinea, Melanesia, Andaman Islands and India. In the mid-twentieth century, a separate argument emerged that Australoids were linked to Proto-Caucasoids.
In the Out of Africa theory, the ancestors of the Australoids, the Proto-Australoids, are thought to have been the first branch off from the Proto-Capoids to migrate from Africa about 60,000 BCE, migrating along the now submerged continental shelf of the northern shore of the Indian Ocean and reaching Australia about 50,000 BCE. This ostensible Proto-Australoid–Proto-Capoid link, however, has been contested.
1 History
2 Use to describe populations in India
3 Physical features
4 The first Americans?
5 See also
6 References
History
The three great races according to Meyers Konversations-Lexikon of 1885-90.
In the late nineteenth century, anthropometric studies led to a proposition of racial groups, one of which was termed "Australioid" by Thomas Huxley in an essay 'On the Geographical Distribution of the Chief Modifications of Mankind' (1870), in which he divided humanity into four principal groups (Xanthochroic, Mongoloid, Negroid, and Australioid).[4]
Huxley also concluded that the Melanochroi (Peoples of the Mediterranean race) are of a mixture of the Xanthochroi (northern Europeans) and Australioids.[5] Later writers dropped the first "i" in Australioid, establishing Australoid as the standard spelling.
According to Peter Bellwood, "many of the present Southern Mongoloid populations of Indonesia and Malaysia also have a high degree of Australo-Melanesian genetic heritage."[6] One proponent, R. Ruggles Gates, argued in 1960 that "If the Ainu are partly of Australoid origin it is also clear that they are even more nearly derived from archaic Caucasian ancestry".[7] M.K. Bhasin (2006) suggests that the "Australoids" "differentiat[ed]... perhaps from a common type before the separation of the Mongoloids and Caucasoids"[8]
Use to describe populations in India
A modern Veddah of Sri Lanka
Huxley's original model included populations in India. Some scholars still use the term Australoid to denote the small populations, mainly of some of the Adivasi and the Andamanese people in India and the Veddas in Sri Lanka. The American Journal of Physical Anthropology (1996, p. 382) by American Association of Physical Anthropologists. L. L. (Luigi Luca) Cavalli-Sforza, Paolo Menozzi and Alberto Piazza in their text, The History and Geography of Human Genes (1994, P. 241) both use the term.
Balgir (2004)[9] designates tribes as Australoid or Proto-Australoid according to language family:
It may be mentioned here that the major scheduled tribes of Odisha belong to three linguistic groups, namely, Indo-Aryan or Indo-Europeans, i.e. Non-Australoid, Austroasiatic (Mundari) speakers, i.e. Proto-Australoid, and Dravidian (Gondi or Kuvi) speakers, i.e. Australoid. Proto-Australoid racial group includes Bhumiz, Gadaba, Juang, Kharia, Koda, Kolha, Mahali, Mirdha, Munda, Santal and Saora tribes. Tribes like Bathudi, Bhatra, Binjhal, Bhuyan, Lodha and Saunti belong to non-Australoid racial stock while Australoid racial stock is represented by Gond, Kondha, Kissan, Oraon, Poraja and Pentia Halva tribes.
A 2006 CFSL research article which assessed "3522 individuals belonging to 54 (23 belonging to the Austroasiatic, 18 to Dravidian, 7 to Tibeto-Burman and 24 to Indo-European linguistic groups) endogamous Indian populations, representing all major ethnic, linguistic and geographic groups" for genetic variations to support such classifications found no conclusive evidence. It further summed that "the absence of genetic markers to support the general clustering of population groups based on ethnic, linguistic, geographic or socio-cultural affiliations" undermines the broad groupings based on such affiliations that exist in population genetic studies and forensic databases. [10]
Physical features
Forensic anthropologist Caroline Wilkenson wrote in 2004 that Australoids have the largest brow ridges "with moderate to large supraorbital arches".[11] Caucasoids have the second largest brow ridges with "moderate supraorbital ridges".[11] Negroids have the third largest brow ridges with an "undulating supraorbital ridge".[11] Mongoloids are "absent browridges", so they have the smallest brow ridges.[11]
Huxley wrote in 1870 that Australoids are usually dolichocephalic;[12] their hair is usually silky, black and wavy;[12] they usually have large, heavy jaws and prognathism;[12] their skin is the color of chocolate and the irises are dark brown or black.[12]
The first Americans?
A reconstruction of the features of Luzia
Skulls of peoples with Australoid morphologies have been found in the Americas, leading to speculation that peoples with phenotypical similarities to modern Australoids may have been the earliest occupants of the continent.[13][14][15] These have been termed by some Pre-Siberian American Aborigines. If this theory is correct, it would mean that some Proto-Australoids continued the Great Coastal Migration beyond Southeast Asia along the continental shelf north in East Asia and across the Bering land bridge, reaching the Americas about 52,000 BCE.
Christy Turner notes that "cranial analyses of some South American crania have suggested that there might have been some early migration of "Australoids."[16] These early Americans left signs of settlement in Brazil which may date back as many as 50,000 years ago. However, Turner argues that cranial morphology suggests "Sinodonty" in all the populations he has studied.
One of the earliest skulls recovered by archaeologists is a specimen named Luzia. According to archaeologist Walter Neves of the University of São Paulo, Luzia's Paleo-Indian predecessors lived in South East Asia for tens of thousands of years, after migrating from Africa, and began arriving in the New World, as early as 15,000 years ago. Some anthropologists have hypothesized that Paleo-Indians migrated along the coast of East Asia and Beringia in small watercraft, before or during the last Ice Age.
Neves' conclusions have been challenged by research done by anthropologists Rolando Gonzalez-Jose, Frank Williams and William Armelagos who have shown in their studies that the cranio-facial variability could just be due to genetic drift and other factors affecting cranio-facial plasticity in Native Americans.
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But they are almost a separate human species.
Aren't Aborigines black or another race entirely?
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There was also a Native American tribe that claimed to be a lost tribe and was demanding recognition.
This has really got to stop. Anyone can now claim to be a list tribe. Israel is a little country and can only absorb so many people, but it can't absorb the entire world or nations of people who now feel like they're a lost tribe. When Moshiach comes, all the tribes will be reunited but I don't believe everyone who suddenly claim to be a lost tribe gets to make aliyah. At some point, this abuse has to stop. Their governments should fix them instead of them looking at Israel with little money sings in their eyes.
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Aren't Aborigines black or another race entirely?
They are a different race.
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There was also a Native American tribe that claimed to be a lost tribe and was demanding recognition.
This has really got to stop. Anyone can now claim to be a list tribe. Israel is a little country and can only absorb so many people, but it can't absorb the entire world or nations of people who now feel like they're a lost tribe. When Moshiach comes, all the tribes will be reunited but I don't believe everyone who suddenly claim to be a lost tribe gets to make aliyah. At some point, this abuse has to stop. Their governments should fix them instead of them looking at Israel with little money sings in their eyes.
This would not be a problem if Israel took back all of her land. And I say, why not the whole world? G_d sent the Northern Tribes out to be a great multitude among the nations. After some 2670(this is probably way off) some years, how big could they possibly be? HUGE! They would have to take the world...
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This would not be a problem if Israel took back all of her land. And I say, why not the whole world? G_d sent the Northern Tribes out to be a great multitude among the nations. After some 2670(this is probably way off) some years, how big could they possibly be? HUGE! They would have to take the world...
Israel should only control from the Nile to the Euphrates. Also, in the Next World, evil people won't exist so there will be more room for righteous people.
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I don't like saying this but let the truth be told, wherever you find large black communities regardless of religion, language and culture you will most certainly find the lowest standard of living even lower than the Arabs. Crime is always high and worst of all immorality is everywhere. Many Rabbis teach that God hates immorality far more than any other sin. A Jew is a Jew regardless of color but you would be a fool if you didn't have some paranoia when it comes to Africans. I for one don't believe real Jews are Black, the Torah teaches that a Jewish soul possesses 3 things.
1. Humility
2. Kindness
3. Shyness
Draw your own conclusions.
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I don't like saying this but let the truth be told, wherever you find large black communities regardless of religion, language and culture you will most certainly find the lowest standard of living even lower than the Arabs. Crime is always high and worst of all immorality is everywhere. Many Rabbis teach that God hates immorality far more than any other sin. A Jew is a Jew regardless of color but you would be a fool if you didn't have some paranoia when it comes to Africans. I for one don't believe real Jews are Black, the Torah teaches that a Jewish soul possesses 3 things.
1. Humility
2. Kindness
3. Shyness
Draw your own conclusions.
This is true. If this is the future of Israel.... then this is not a good sign. For those blacks who genuinely are good righteous Jews... then its ok But lets be honest here.... many want to come to Israel for the same reason all blacks want to leave Africa.... because Africa is a horrific place with no jobs.. no hope.. no nothing.... They will move anywhere as long as its away from there.
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The arab countries should offer free housing, money incentives, government support and automatic citizenship- then we will see how fast these so called "lost-Jewish nations" become muslim in a matter of seconds.
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This is true. If this is the future of Israel.... then this is not a good sign. For those blacks who genuinely are good righteous Jews... then its ok But lets be honest here.... many want to come to Israel for the same reason all blacks want to leave Africa.... because Africa is a horrific place with no jobs.. no hope.. no nothing.... They will move anywhere as long as its away from there.
Yet they blame whitey for bringing them to America where they have it better than anywhere in the World.
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The arab countries should offer free housing, money incentives, government support and automatic citizenship- then we will see how fast these so called "lost-Jewish nations" become muslim in a matter of seconds.
They say they were Muslims in Africa before the trade slave brought them to America, yet it was the Arab Muslims who through Jihad conquered Africa and converted them. It was also Arabs that started the slave trade. Also, their fellow black Africans sold them to white slave traders. Muslims always fight amongst each other so it's nothing to be surprised of.
Even Swahili which blacks call the "Pan-African language" is based on Arabic. East Africa actually had a History because it was near the Middle East and near places like Ancient Egypt. Where blacks were left to live amongs their own in the middle of the jungle in places like Congo or Nigeria, you can imagine what they were like. Even in Southern Africa, the blacks of the Kahalari Desert are still in the most primitive stage of human development (hunters and gatherers). I guess if it wasn't for the white South Africans, South Africa would all still be like that.