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Title: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 03, 2016, 07:54:34 PM

- August 01, 2016 -
Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America

Atlanta Jewish Times

"There are three major reasons why Donald Trump is the best candidate for Jews, Israel and America: He will secure the borders to stop illegal immigration, fight Islamic terror, and assist Israel in negotiating her own peace deal with Palestinians, not imposing a solution."

Donald Trump is dedicated to these three important issues, which is why he is the best candidate for us all. He will support Israel in negotiations and will make sure that their protection is secured just like it is in our country. Hillary Clinton supports policies that will compromise the safety of America and all her allies, not just for Jews, but for all Americans.

The answer to who to vote for seems very simple.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Aces High on August 03, 2016, 08:15:42 PM
It's in the news he might drop out.  I hope he fights to the bitter end.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on August 03, 2016, 08:18:10 PM
If he drops out does someone else get to step up for the Republican party?
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Aces High on August 03, 2016, 08:22:46 PM
If he drops out does someone else get to step up for the Republican party?

Well, they were saying on some news clip that someone else from the republican party can take his place.   Hopefully he won't quit.  It's probably a 50 /50 chance he will quit if he thinks he has no way to win.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 03, 2016, 08:26:28 PM
It's in the news he might drop out.  I hope he fights to the bitter end.
Yes to the bitter end... It's a combination of the liberal media and the Republican establishment that is pushing this idea... I don't think Trump will give in... This is the last round up... Once Trump gets past this it might be clear sailing to the presidency...
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: eb22 on August 03, 2016, 08:26:34 PM
I would like to see a candidate running for the President of the United States to say that even if Israel is willing to try to negotiate a ' peace deal'  with the Fakestinians,  the U.S. isn't going to aid in the process because of the history and ongoing support of terrorism by the Fakestinians.   This would be the sensible course for the United States.   
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 03, 2016, 08:28:35 PM
I would like to see a candidate running for the President of the United States to say that even if Israel is willing to try to negotiate a ' peace deal'  with the Fakestinians,  the U.S. isn't going to aid in the process because of the history and ongoing support of terrorism by the Fakestinians.   This would be the sensible course for the United States.   
Who would that be?  Jeb Bush? :::D
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: eb22 on August 03, 2016, 08:32:57 PM
Who would that be?  Jeb Bush? :::D

I'm not aware of any Presidential candidate taking this approach past or present.  But this would be what a truly great leader would do.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 03, 2016, 08:37:18 PM
I'm not aware of any Presidential candidate taking this approach past or present.  But this would be what a truly great leader would do.
At this point your getting Trump or Hillary pick your poison... Anyone that comes after Trump it will be as if Hillary is running unopposed.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on August 03, 2016, 08:40:14 PM
Yes to the bitter end... It's a combination of the liberal media and the Republican establishment that is pushing this idea... I don't think Trump will give in... This is the last round up... Once Trump gets past this it might be clear sailing to the presidency...
He's losing. The more he talks, the more support he loses, day by day!
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Aces High on August 03, 2016, 08:40:35 PM
At this point your getting Trump or Hillary pick your poison... Anyone that comes after Trump it will be as if Hillary is running unopposed.

I think you're right.   Nobody thought he would get this far.  I think he has a 50/50 chance to win.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 03, 2016, 08:42:46 PM
I'm not aware of any Presidential candidate taking this approach past or present.  But this would be what a truly great leader would do.
If Trump goes out it will be Bush Romney or the like how is this any better than Trump?
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 03, 2016, 08:45:58 PM
He's losing. The more he talks, the more support he loses, day by day!
Well get ready for Hillary and Israel better get ready to shrink to it 7 mile borders there is no other solution.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on August 03, 2016, 08:47:11 PM
Well get ready for Hillary and Israel better get ready to shrink to it 7 mile borders there is no other solution.
I know.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 03, 2016, 08:48:10 PM
You post threads like this, and expect us to believe you were not on Trump's crotch from day one. Give it up. I may be dumb but I am not an inbecile.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on August 03, 2016, 08:48:38 PM
If Trump goes out it will be Bush Romney or the like how is this any better than Trump?
Trump is way more liberal on some things compared to them.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: eb22 on August 03, 2016, 08:50:03 PM
If Trump goes out it will be Bush Romney or the like how is this any better than Trump?

At least with Bush and Romney,  you know what you are getting.   They are obviously not the solution though but I would vote for either against Hillary Clinton.   
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on August 03, 2016, 08:52:42 PM
You post threads like this, and expect us to believe you were not on Trump's crotch from day one. Give it up. I may be dumb but I am not an inbecile.
No need to turn this into a fight, this is a discussion.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 03, 2016, 08:53:35 PM
Trump is way more liberal on some things compared to them.
I am a card carrying Republican for almost 40 years and I tell you Romney and Bush are no better than Trump... I think animals like that have actually pushed Trump to the right.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 03, 2016, 08:57:28 PM
You post threads like this, and expect us to believe you were not on Trump's crotch from day one. Give it up. I may be dumb but I am not an inbecile.
Are you trying to convince the gullible and lull the suspicious :::D 
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 03, 2016, 09:01:47 PM
At least with Bush and Romney,  you know what you are getting.   They are obviously not the solution though but I would vote for either against Hillary Clinton.
Not me... I turn my nose up at both offerings... The worst part of the picture is I actually supported them in the past. >:(
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: nessuno on August 03, 2016, 09:20:27 PM
You post threads like this, and expect us to believe you were not on Trump's crotch from day one. Give it up. I may be dumb but I am not an inbecile.
Why must you keeping bringing up Trump's private parts?  It's very weird.
 
Please stop winding up the more rabid twin.   :::D
(http://washingtonpashelter.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/cujo.jpg) 
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 03, 2016, 09:27:32 PM
Why must you keeping bringing up Trump's private parts?  It's very weird.
 
Please stop winding up the more rabid twin.   :::D
(http://washingtonpashelter.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/cujo.jpg)
I'll say... It's just not right. :o
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: nessuno on August 03, 2016, 09:31:06 PM
He's losing. The more he talks, the more support he loses, day by day!
The more support the media tells you he is losing.  We now trust the propaganda machine.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on August 03, 2016, 09:33:20 PM
I am a card carrying Republican for almost 40 years and I tell you Romney and Bush are no better than Trump... I think animals like that have actually pushed Trump to the right.
He just called for an increase in the minimum wage and a trillion dollar stimulus for infrastructure..... didn't we already do a stimulus for infrastructure? Also tariffs are really bad for America!
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: nessuno on August 03, 2016, 09:34:22 PM
No need to turn this into a fight, this is a discussion.
LSDBR has been trying to turn this into a fight for months.   
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on August 03, 2016, 09:37:22 PM
The more support the media tells you he is losing.  We now trust the propaganda machine.
No I don't trust the machine, all polls are going down. Daily he says some stupid, like he's trying to lose...
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: nessuno on August 03, 2016, 09:42:42 PM
He doesn't have to say anything stupid.
The media is in high gear for Hillary.
It wouldn't be any different with Bush, Romney or Cruz.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 03, 2016, 09:44:42 PM
No I don't trust the machine, all polls are going down. Daily he says some stupid, like he's trying to lose...
Don't trust the hype... Sit tight... In a week or two things will be a bit different... I honestly believe there is a ground swell of support for Trump that will not be shaken...  If it is all will be lost with the Clinton's
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on August 03, 2016, 10:33:11 PM
Don't trust the hype... Sit tight... In a week or two things will be a bit different... I honestly believe there is a ground swell of support for Trump that will not be shaken...  If it is all will be lost with the Clinton's
The latest leftist attack on Trump is Melania`s lesbian photos, if he is smart he can turn this around in his favor.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Lisa on August 03, 2016, 10:34:46 PM
The latest leftist attack on Trump is Melania`s lesbian photos, if he is smart he can turn this around in his favor.

How do you think?
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on August 03, 2016, 10:40:05 PM
How do you think?
He can gain leftist sympathy for gays and support from the LGBTqqedstreed community.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 04, 2016, 09:52:30 AM
- August 01, 2016 -
Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America

Atlanta Jewish Times

"There are three major reasons why Donald Trump is the best candidate for Jews, Israel and America: He will secure the borders to stop illegal immigration, fight Islamic terror, and assist Israel in negotiating her own peace deal with Palestinians, not imposing a solution."

Donald Trump is dedicated to these three important issues, which is why he is the best candidate for us all. He will support Israel in negotiations and will make sure that their protection is secured just like it is in our country. Hillary Clinton supports policies that will compromise the safety of America and all her allies, not just for Jews, but for all Americans.

The answer to who to vote for seems very simple.

I'm going to do two things here:

1. Replace Trump with Bibi from a hindsite point of view and tell me if any of that happened with Bibi.

2. Just because he says he will build a wall doesn't mean he will build a wall nor stop illegal immigration.  He spoke about creating a big door to let them in again legally.  No different than amnesty.  So be careful of the fine print that comes from a head full of steam.

3. Fight Islamic terror? Ok. I hope so.  He does have a vested interest in this country with his product.  But at the same time, what stops him from going against his country for the sake of his product and money?

4. Assist in helping Israel through being neutral as he put it.  And with a weak self hating Israeli govt, the neutral will lead to Israeli suicide.

Trump is a phony.  He is not the lesser of evils.  Sometimes there are no good choices.  Best not to ruin your here on after choosing a bad candidate whether one thinks hillary is the lesser of the evils or trump the lesser of the evils or that dope smoker as a libertarian as the lesser.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 04, 2016, 09:55:40 AM
I am a card carrying Republican for almost 40 years and I tell you Romney and Bush are no better than Trump... I think animals like that have actually pushed Trump to the right.

Jeb is no better than trump or hillary

Romney 4 years ago was the lesser of evils..Not sure today what kind of sell out he would be.  The whole GOP of establishment people are sell outs and are no better than the dems now.

After what I saw what they did the Cruz when he gave his speech at the RNC, anyone who went against him is a fraud until that person admits he made a mistake in crucifying him.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 04, 2016, 09:57:52 AM
He doesn't have to say anything stupid.
The media is in high gear for Hillary.
It wouldn't be any different with Bush, Romney or Cruz.

Cruz knows how to defend himself and knows how to convince people of hillary's evil record with or without media.  However, he not a marketing genius like Trump.  That element is needed for a right wing leader to be successful.  Cruz is true to himself and trump isn't.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Zelhar on August 04, 2016, 10:39:33 AM
It's going to be Kissinger and Baker types that run Trump's foreign policy. He is too lazy and ignoramous to run it own his own.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 04, 2016, 04:26:12 PM
He's losing. The more he talks, the more support he loses, day by day!

A lot of that perception is simply due to media narrative.  It may or may not have any truth to it.  WikiLeaks showed a coordinated effort between the media networks and the Clinton team to influence election outcome.  Not mere bias.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on August 04, 2016, 06:02:13 PM
בס''ד

This is pathetic. People on this forum who could not care less about Israel are suddenly lecturing us on who is best for Israel. As if Trump's positions on Israel are really important to them.

The following video appears on Trump's own campaign web site as his official position in regard to Israel. In the video, Trump again promises to push hard for Israeli national suicide (a deal between Israel and the "Palestinians" - which can only mean national suicide). Trump again mentions that he is "neutral" - which means he is anti-Israel. This video is the latest from Trump himself on his own campaign web site. This is even worse than Hillary Clinton, who has not said that she will begin a major new diplomatic effort to get Israel to commit suicide. She might do so anyway after getting elected, but as far as current public positions are concerned, Trump's public position on Israel is worse right now than Clinton's public position.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=o58F_lqi-Fs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o58F_lqi-Fs

Here is where the video is shown as Trump's official position on Trump's campaign web site (scroll down to find the Israel video):

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/issues
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 04, 2016, 09:18:24 PM
בס''ד

This is pathetic. People on this forum who could not care less about Israel are suddenly lecturing us on who is best for Israel. As if Trump's positions on Israel are really important to them.

The following video appears on Trump's own campaign web site as his official position in regard to Israel. In the video, Trump again promises to push hard for Israeli national suicide (a deal between Israel and the "Palestinians" - which can only mean national suicide). Trump again mentions that he is "neutral" - which means he is anti-Israel. This video is the latest from Trump himself on his own campaign web site. This is even worse than Hillary Clinton, who has not said that she will begin a major new diplomatic effort to get Israel to commit suicide. She might do so anyway after getting elected, but as far as current public positions are concerned, Trump's public position on Israel is worse right now than Clinton's public position.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=o58F_lqi-Fs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o58F_lqi-Fs

Here is where the video is shown as Trump's official position on Trump's campaign web site (scroll down to find the Israel video):

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/issues
Interesting... Your right it is pathetic... As I always say God helps them that help themselves.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on August 04, 2016, 09:47:07 PM
בס''ד

This is pathetic. People on this forum who could not care less about Israel are suddenly lecturing us on who is best for Israel. As if Trump's positions on Israel are really important to them.

The following video appears on Trump's own campaign web site as his official position in regard to Israel. In the video, Trump again promises to push hard for Israeli national suicide (a deal between Israel and the "Palestinians" - which can only mean national suicide). Trump again mentions that he is "neutral" - which means he is anti-Israel. This video is the latest from Trump himself on his own campaign web site. This is even worse than Hillary Clinton, who has not said that she will begin a major new diplomatic effort to get Israel to commit suicide. She might do so anyway after getting elected, but as far as current public positions are concerned, Trump's public position on Israel is worse right now than Clinton's public position.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=o58F_lqi-Fs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o58F_lqi-Fs

Here is where the video is shown as Trump's official position on Trump's campaign web site (scroll down to find the Israel video):

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/issues
  Chaim, what are you going to do?

I have to disagree, there is no way Hillary is better.  She is a Muslim loving commie that supports the muzzie brotherhood. She is a progressive, they don't show their cards. TRUMP SUCKS! TRUMP SUCKS! But a vote for Hitlery?  That's a vote for Osamba, 1960 reds.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Lisa on August 04, 2016, 10:01:07 PM
I don't agree that being neutral means being anti-Israel in this case. 

Remember, Barack Hussein Obama said I have Israel's back.  And look how that turned out.  When Democrats say they support Israel, they mean they support the idea of a vivisected Israel given over to the fakestinians.  Let's not forget how Hillary yelled at Netanyahu. 
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 04, 2016, 10:18:07 PM
I don't believe trump will be any good.  No negotiations with terrorists are good no matter who conducts them.

At the same time hillary literally has a Saudi spy for the moslem brotherhood as her top advisor.  It is no mystery what her stances are just because she is currently hiding them.

When she was secretary of state was there less pressure on israel to tear down checkpoints and freeze building?  Not to my recollection but I'm open to being proven wrong.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 04, 2016, 11:19:41 PM
For the record, my taunting succeeded in getting cjd to admit he supported Trump from the beginning, in the other thread.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on August 05, 2016, 08:21:14 AM
I don't agree that being neutral means being anti-Israel in this case. 

Remember, Barack Hussein Obama said I have Israel's back.  And look how that turned out.  When Democrats say they support Israel, they mean they support the idea of a vivisected Israel given over to the fakestinians.  Let's not forget how Hillary yelled at Netanyahu.

בס''ד

Lisa, this is really disappointing. Openly saying that he is "neutral" between Israel and the Muslim Nazi terrorist mass murderers is not anti-Israel?! This is what Trump is saying in the middle of an election when he wants pro-Israel votes from Jews and evangelicals. If he says he is "neutral" now when he desperately needs our votes, imagine what he will say once he is in office and there is no pending election.

Everyone who is anti-Israel says we should be more "evenhanded" and "balanced" in the Middle East. That has been the code language of the Jew-haters ever since Israel's creation. Of course, America and the world have never been pro-Israel, in fact, they have always been anti-Israel. So saying we should be "neutral" is code language for being even more anti-Israel. When Trump promises to vigorously push for a suicidal agreement and to be "neutral", there is no doubt as to what that means.

If someone were to say that he is neutral between the United States and ISIS, you would not define that as anti-American?

Even non-Jewish Senators like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz both defined Trump's statement on being "neutral" as being anti-Israel. So you Lisa as a Jew are now taking a less pro-Israel stand than non-Jewish Senators. I know that you genuinely care about Israel but your desire to make excuses for Trump so that you can vote for him is blinding you to reality. Here's the debate in which Rubio and Cruz call Trump's neutrality anti-Israel:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6-Cp7BHNs4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6-Cp7BHNs4

Lisa, if after all these years with JTF, you don't understand the extreme danger in Trump's words, then I am truly disappointed.

As far as Clinton is concerned, she and her husband are vicious enemies of Israel. Clinton will certainly pressure Israel to commit suicide. But she is not publicly promising an all-out effort to get Israel to agree to this, while Trump is openly telling us that he make this a top priority of his Presidency. So technically speaking in terms of their publicly stated positions, although both Trump and Clinton are anti-Israel, Trump is promising us something even worse.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: eb22 on August 05, 2016, 09:01:57 AM
The following is part of a larger article from April.  Knowing that Jason Greenblatt is advising Donald Trump is anything but assuring.   The fact that Greenblatt expressed he's in favor of a two-state solution is alarming,  considering Trump's ego,  Greenblatt's position in the Trump camp,  and that Greenblatt is Jewish ( with his way of thinking on the issue regarding the Fakestinians. ).

http://forward.com/news/national/338915/no-experience-necessary-meet-trumps-orthodox-israel-advisor/

Greenblatt’s positions on Israel are similar to those of his boss. Like Trump, Greenblatt supports a two-state solution, so long as it is reached by the parties themselves and not imposed by an outside body like the United Nations. He does not believe Jewish settlements in the West Bank are a core part of the problem. He says Trump, an “incredible facilitator,” should try to restart peace talks.

“We kind of need to roll up our sleeves and try to attack it again and see what we can accomplish,” Greenblatt said.

To get the Palestinians to the negotiating table, Greenblatt suggests threatening to withhold some U.S. funding from the Palestinian Authority.

U.S. negotiators “need to lay down the law and explain that the [Palestinians are] not going to get the benefits they get from the United States unless they come to the table,” Greenblatt said. “I think they need to say: ‘Over the course of the next period of time, we will continue to provide funding, but in order to do that you need to do X, Y and Z, set concrete goals, and if you don’t we need to start tapering off the funding,’ and see what happens.”

Also like Trump, Greenblatt believes Israeli-Palestinian negotiations can be handled similarly to Trump’s real estate negotiations, with money as a main incentive.

“If you take out the emotional part of it and the historical part of it, it is a business transaction. Land is going to be negotiated, water rights are going to be negotiated, security issues are going to be negotiated,” Greenblatt said. “So you need to say to them, ‘Listen, we want to discuss these two issues in this quarter, and then you’ll get your check, and these two issues in this quarter, and then you’ll get your check. At the end of the day you want to resolve all the issues. I think it isn’t a good idea to do partial negotiations and then hope for the best.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: syyuge on August 05, 2016, 09:41:14 AM
Fortunate is Trump for he is not reading this JTF thread. Otherwise he may jump down from the top of his Trump tower.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Lisa on August 05, 2016, 10:15:15 AM
Chaim you make good points.  But what other options do we have?   I just don't want to support Hillary even indirectly.   And what happens if Hillary does win?  What will We do then?
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Chaim Ben Pesach on August 05, 2016, 12:01:33 PM
Chaim you make good points.  But what other options do we have?   I just don't want to support Hillary even indirectly.   And what happens if Hillary does win?  What will We do then?

בס''ד

If Clinton wins, we will begin fighting her on day one of her presidency. If Trump wins, we will begin fighting him on day one of his presidency. For us, both of them are terrible.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Nachus on August 05, 2016, 01:06:07 PM
 :usa+israel:                                                                                                      :fist:

 After not too much pondering, I've come to the conclusion that in view of this
 nightmarish scenario we have in front of us, the bottom line, final analysis for
 me and should be the course of action for all of us is to stay out of this madness
 and like the great eb22 has advocated, write in the phenomenal Ted Cruz!
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 05, 2016, 09:21:19 PM
For the record, my taunting succeeded in getting cjd to admit he supported Trump from the beginning, in the other thread.
Which record is that? The broken record because that's what you sound like... If that was taunting I would hate to show you what taunting could really be. It's just pointless to go any further with this issue here... On to greener pastures.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: nessuno on August 06, 2016, 09:42:27 AM
For the record, my taunting succeeded in getting cjd to admit he supported Trump from the beginning, in the other thread.
For the record, YOU are an imbecile.
For the record Dr. Dan.  I know you are the voice of reason but...in his own words  Stinks has been TAUNTING. 
So, this is what we are reduced to .  A bully.  Who doesn't want to get his facts straight.  A bully who wants to win brownie points for being the attack dog. 
I don't know how YOU got to CJD admitting to something that isn't true.  Oh...in your own mind.  Much like YOUR candidate Clinton.  If you stick to your guns.  Eventually, you win.  Okay.  Hollow victory.
I would think that JTF could handle a difference in opinion.  How will they stand against Clinton or Trump?  Just by having a one sided discussion. Whatever.
I'm glad that JTF is now saying Clinton is as equally (if not more in my opinion) dangerous for the country as Trump.  For a minute, I thought I was in an alternate universe.  Except for YOU Stinks.  You are going to show the twins a thing or two when Clinton wins.  Have no fear.  You can get back to calling most Jews self-hating and preparing for black history month.  Since you have the all seeing eye into evil.  I know those special powers come from you being an evangelical Christian.
                                                                                                                              ~twin 2~
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 06, 2016, 06:31:52 PM
:usa+israel:                                                                                                      :fist:

 After not too much pondering, I've come to the conclusion that in view of this
 nightmarish scenario we have in front of us, the bottom line, final analysis for
 me and should be the course of action for all of us is to stay out of this madness
 and like the great eb22 has advocated, write in the phenomenal Ted Cruz!
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_04/035ostrich_468x538.jpg)

The problem with this is that when the head comes out of the sand the world will have had moved on
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on August 06, 2016, 10:14:33 PM
(http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/05_04/035ostrich_468x538.jpg)

The problem with this is that when the head comes out of the sand the world will have had moved on
Did you hear what Trump said yesterday? He freaking said he wants to team up with Russia, HELL NO!
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: syyuge on August 06, 2016, 11:53:17 PM
Trump is praising Putin and Putin is praising Trump. Obviously both of them want that Hillary should win. I do not know the reason behind this.



Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 07, 2016, 01:24:24 AM
Trump is praising Putin and Putin is praising Trump. Obviously both of them want that Hillary should win. I do not know the reason behind this.

In the case of Putin, maybe the Clinton Foundation has something to do with it?
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on August 07, 2016, 12:17:50 PM
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/380614/dugins-evil-theology-robert-zubrin

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/01/13/truly-terrifying-beck-introduces-viewers-to-the-man-he-believes-is-the-architect-of-russias-geopolitical-strategy/
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Ephraim Ben Noach on August 07, 2016, 12:25:16 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/apr/27/paul-manafort-donald-trump-campaign-past-clients
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Yerusha on August 07, 2016, 03:42:06 PM
Trump vs a REAL Honey Badger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Debbie Shafer on August 07, 2016, 04:17:57 PM
I don't think Trump wants the system to collapse like it will under Hillary and Obama.  They are united with Islam in their agenda.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Nachus on August 09, 2016, 07:15:28 PM
 :usa+israel:                                                                                                       :fist:

 Hitlery, Chump nor Gayry Johnson will be any good for Jews, Israel or 'America'  >:( :o
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 10, 2016, 12:58:58 PM
poppy..Did I say you were the one taunting?  Seriously...any taunting to each other is useless...

Debate and don't defame..that' goes for everyone here who has a major disagreement.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 10, 2016, 01:05:46 PM
Trump is the Bibi of America and Hillary is Herzog of America.  You can pick your poison.

There was a time when we thought that the enemy of our enemy was our friend...Sometimes, they are still the enemy and sometimes the enemy of our enemy needs to fight each other and kill each other off while we stay out of it.

America should do what is best for America..in its own self interest.  Therefore, there should be no surprise when America chooses alliances with the enemies of Israel..that is in no one's self interest except heathons and Jew haters.

I am more interested in Israel helping Jews and Jews helping Israel to be the Jewish state and not the state of the Jews.  Therefore, it doesn't matter who becomes president.  America is going down a bad path; and so is Israel since it also tries to emulate America instead of the Torah.

Chaim is right; no matter who wins, we will fight the president from day one.  Both are bad; both are poison; and there is no such thing as good bad and good poison. It's that simple.

Just realize that it is quite possible that one might be judged by Gd for who he/she chooses in an election.  If you know both are very bad; don't pick the winner...write in Ted Cruz..vote your conscience.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: syyuge on August 11, 2016, 11:21:39 AM
Trump is also an integral part of the Hillary camp. The common objective of all of them was to defeat the righteous Cruz. Now that objective being achieved the election is practically over.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 11, 2016, 07:11:46 PM
Trump is also an integral part of the Hillary camp. The common objective of all of them was to defeat the righteous Cruz. Now that objective being achieved the election is practically over.
Have mercy  :::D Who needs the righteous Ted Cruz when we have the great Hillary & Bill Clinton... Roosevelt almost got his 16 years the Clinton's want theirs  :o
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 11, 2016, 07:18:50 PM
Have mercy  :::D Who needs the righteous Ted Cruz when we have the great Hillary & Bill Clinton... Roosevelt almost got his 16 years the Clinton's want theirs  :o

Huh?
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 11, 2016, 07:21:23 PM
Huh?
You said it!
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Yerusha on August 15, 2016, 03:33:21 PM
US citizens in Israel rallying for Trump
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/216445

(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/marc-zell-the-chairman-of-republicans-living-in-israel-talks-while-picture-id589723618?k=6&m=589723618&s=594x594&w=0&h=ndBuTPGidk60la-D5ulmANYosJFPHihsZ0Nggk0whiQ=)

Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 15, 2016, 05:23:01 PM
US citizens in Israel rallying for Trump
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/216445

(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/marc-zell-the-chairman-of-republicans-living-in-israel-talks-while-picture-id589723618?k=6&m=589723618&s=594x594&w=0&h=ndBuTPGidk60la-D5ulmANYosJFPHihsZ0Nggk0whiQ=)

Wow, a whole 4 people!  What an impressive gathering...
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on August 15, 2016, 10:04:43 PM
You said it!
Syyuge was quite clear, it's not his fault some of us are too dense to get him, right Stallion? Time to go back to the barn and eat your hay. You should be used to it, your blinders were never taken off to begin with.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 16, 2016, 06:39:15 AM
Syyuge was quite clear, it's not his fault some of us are too dense to get him, right Stallion? Time to go back to the barn and eat your hay. You should be used to it, your blinders were never taken off to begin with.
Talky Tina no disc change yet? Tell the programmer the one your working with is defective it's causing you to say silly things and make a jackazz  out of yourself.... Speak for  yourself about being dense... Despite what your defective programing tells you we are not all in the same boat ... I understood the  point Syyuge was making  I did not necessarily agree with it...  The only way Cruz could ever win the primary or general election was if he was running unopposed and even then there would be a question due to low voter turnout :::D Thank G-d for my blinders because with the ever increasing levels of stupidity you come up with I badly need them... Back to my stall Talky but it won't be for hay... It's steak, Shrimp, and pork loins by the dozens...  Topped off with just the right amount of adult beverages... You have a nice day :laugh: 
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: eb22 on August 16, 2016, 03:48:33 PM
The only way Cruz could ever win the primary or general election was if he was running unopposed and even then there would be a question due to low voter turnout :::D

Ted Cruz finished 2nd out of 17 Republican candidates in the 2016 Republican Primary Process.   If Cruz can't even win a primary, which I strongly disagree with,   what does that say about the other 15 candidates that finished behind him?   

Ronald Reagan lost in the 1976 Republican Primary process to Gerald Ford and went on to win the 1980 Presidential General Election convincingly.   Cruz is far from finished.    If Donald Trump continues to implode,  Cruz will look that much more appealing in 2020 after not endorsing Trump in Cleveland last month. 
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 16, 2016, 04:43:38 PM
Ted Cruz finished 2nd out of 17 Republican candidates in the 2016 Republican Primary Process.   If Cruz can't even win a primary, which I strongly disagree with,   what does that say about the other 15 candidates that finished behind him?   

Ronald Reagan lost in the 1976 Republican Primary process to Gerald Ford and went on to win the 1980 Presidential General Election convincingly.   Cruz is far from finished.    If Donald Trump continues to implode,  Cruz will look that much more appealing in 2020 after not endorsing Trump in Cleveland last month. 
The fact that Cruz came in second was only due to the fact that the first 15 were dead in the water from day one... I was all in for Cruz early on in fact I almost considered not voting if Bush or Rubio were to gain the nomination... I was not even paying attention to Trump much until it became clear that Cruz was just not going to make it... I have to say I have honestly warmed up to Trump... His platform is something I could live with and he has promised to appoint constructionist court justices... His website is quite clear... I do believe he wants to try and make things better... I have lived through 8 years of the Clinton's and I do not want them around again for another 8 more... Once the supreme court goes far left with Clinton appointments it will be 30 years before there could be any reversal... I don't know about you but by that time I really don't think I will be around or even care... I respect your opinion on Cruz but for one thing I don't think if Clinton goes in she is only going to last 4 years... For another thing I just don't think Cruz has what it takes to gain higher office... I have not come by many people that have a favorable opinion of him... It's  not that he is not smart and would be able to do the day to day tasks of a president it's that he is unable to bond with the people and is unable to sell his ideas to people outside of his support base...  I understand your position but you have to understand mine...  I do not wish to see the Clinton's back in office... We can't afford to wait 4 years or even 8 years for Cruz to find himself.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Yiddishekop on August 17, 2016, 10:35:46 AM
cjd, your inability to spell shows that you are mentally retarded
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on August 17, 2016, 10:44:44 AM
your inability to spell shows that you are mentally retarded

Stop trolling.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Yiddishekop on August 17, 2016, 10:54:19 AM
Stop trolling.

my comment was directed at the retard "cjd."  he can't spell
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Yiddishekop on August 17, 2016, 10:54:53 AM
The fact that Cruz came in second was only due to the fact that the first 15 were dead in the water from day one... I was all in for Cruz early on in fact I almost considered not voting if Bush or Rubio were to gain the nomination... I was not even paying attention to Trump much until it became clear that Cruz was just not going to make it... I have to say I have honestly warmed up to Trump... His platform is something I could live with and he has promised to appoint constructionist court justices... His website is quite clear... I do believe he wants to try and make things better... I have lived through 8 years of the Clinton's and I do not want them around again for another 8 more... Once the supreme court goes far left with Clinton appointments it will be 30 years before there could be any reversal... I don't know about you but by that time I really don't think I will be around or even care... I respect your opinion on Cruz but for one thing I don't think if Clinton goes in she is only going to last 4 years... For another thing I just don't think Cruz has what it takes to gain higher office... I have not come by many people that have a favorable opinion of him... It's  not that he is not smart and would be able to do the day to day tasks of a president it's that he is unable to bond with the people and is unable to sell his ideas to people outside of his support base...  I understand your position but you have to understand mine...  I do not wish to see the Clinton's back in office... We can't afford to wait 4 years or even 8 years for Cruz to find himself.

you can't spell because you're an idiot
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Yiddishekop on August 17, 2016, 11:03:07 AM
The fact that Cruz came in second was only due to the fact that the first 15 were dead in the water from day one... I was all in for Cruz early on in fact I almost considered not voting if Bush or Rubio were to gain the nomination... I was not even paying attention to Trump much until it became clear that Cruz was just not going to make it... I have to say I have honestly warmed up to Trump... His platform is something I could live with and he has promised to appoint constructionist court justices... His website is quite clear... I do believe he wants to try and make things better... I have lived through 8 years of the Clinton's and I do not want them around again for another 8 more... Once the supreme court goes far left with Clinton appointments it will be 30 years before there could be any reversal... I don't know about you but by that time I really don't think I will be around or even care... I respect your opinion on Cruz but for one thing I don't think if Clinton goes in she is only going to last 4 years... For another thing I just don't think Cruz has what it takes to gain higher office... I have not come by many people that have a favorable opinion of him... It's  not that he is not smart and would be able to do the day to day tasks of a president it's that he is unable to bond with the people and is unable to sell his ideas to people outside of his support base...  I understand your position but you have to understand mine...  I do not wish to see the Clinton's back in office... We can't afford to wait 4 years or even 8 years for Cruz to find himself.

the only reason you like trump is that you are both retards who cannot spell for s/h!t
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: cjd on August 17, 2016, 11:33:10 AM
the only reason you like trump is that you are both retards who cannot spell for s/h!t
Have mercy  :::D Your right I can't spell for sh=t and whats more I could not care less... You spend 45 minutes here and you already know Chiam's voting habits... I smell a rat  :::D Something tells me you either have a split personality or you possibly don't even exist :P
:dance: TRUMP 2016 MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!  :dance:
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Aces High on August 17, 2016, 04:22:20 PM
the only reason you like trump is that you are both retards who cannot spell for s/h!t
No need to be nasty.  Relax.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Debbie Shafer on August 18, 2016, 08:20:55 AM
All of us are contacting the Trump campaign about our borders being secured,  and supporting Israel.  He had better listen to us!
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Debbie Shafer on August 18, 2016, 08:23:25 AM
I was for Cruz too, but he was the only one who was really fighting the left until Trump came along and then Trump started saying exactly what needs to happen to bring this country back and he is strong on national security....How in the heck did we get to the point of totally bowing down to our enemies....Obama is a muslim and has enabled the spread of ISIS.   He and Hillary are one in the same.  She is not a relevant option and shes not in good health either...her future is questionable after that concusion and stroke.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Dr. Dan on August 18, 2016, 10:46:15 AM
my comment was directed at the retard "cjd."  he can't spell

Dude...even though we have disagreements with him on Trump, it doesn't give you the right to talk to him like that.. Quit it or I'll have you thrown out.
Title: Re: Trump Good for Jews, Israel and America
Post by: Shlomo on August 18, 2016, 03:17:11 PM
This thread has turned into name calling and foul language. I'm locking it.