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Title: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Israel Chai on February 10, 2017, 05:22:30 AM
http://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/1.770915

Le Pen: French Jews Will Have to Give Up Israeli Citizenship

Leading contender in French election tells interviewer she won't allow dual citizenships with non-European countries. Asked specifically about Jews and Israel, she said: 'Israel isn't an EU member.'
Haaretz Feb 10, 2017 12:43 AM
French presidential election candidate for the far-right Front National (FN) party Marine Le Pen poses prior to take part in the show "L'Emission politique", in the studios of French television channel France 2 in Saint-Cloud, west of Paris, on January 9, 2017.
French presidential election candidate for the far-right Front National (FN) party Marine Le Pen. THOMAS SAMSON/AFP

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In a France ruled by the far-right Marine Le Pen, Jewish citizens will be forced to give up their Israeli citizenship, the Front National party leader said on Thursday.

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Le Pen, a leading contender in the upcoming French presidential contest, told France 2 TV that if elected, she will not allow French citizens to hold on to any citizenship in a non-European country. When asked specifically about Israel and Jews, who form a large community in France, the Front National party leader responded: "Israel isn't a member of the European Union, and doesn't consider itself as such," and therefore a dual French-Israeli citizenship will not be allowed.

Le Pen said that the ban will also apply to citizens of the U.S. and North African countries, but that dual citizens of the EU and of Russia, which she said is part of she termed the "Europe of nations," will be exempted.

A recent poll showed Le Pen advancing to the second round of balloting in May but still losing handily to front-runner Emmanuel Marcon. Her political party, the National Front, was founded by her father, Jean-Marie Le Pen, who routinely minimized the Holocaust.

The younger Le Pen has sought to move the party past her father’s controversies, but French Jewish leaders still consider the National Front anti-Semitic.

Last week, Le Pen said French Jews should give up the wearing of yarmulkes as part of the country’s struggle to defeat radical Islam.

In an interview with Israel’s Channel 2, Le Pen expressed support for banning the wearing of yarmulkes as part of her broader effort to outlaw religious symbols in public.

“Honestly, the dangerous situation in which Jews in France live is such that those who walk with a kippah are in any case a minority because they are afraid,” Le Pen said, using the Hebrew word for yarmulke. “But I mainly think the struggle against radical Islam should be a joint struggle and everyone should say, ‘There, we are sacrificing something.’”

Referring to French Jews, Le Pen added: “Maybe they will do with just wearing a hat, but it would be a step in the effort to stamp out radical Islam in France.”
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Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 10, 2017, 09:35:44 AM
Yes. Many are against the double passport. Double nationality means double loyalty what is destructive for a nation.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 10, 2017, 09:39:15 AM
By the way: It is not true. They can be Israeli, but they can't be and Israeli and French. It's something like you can't be Bulgarian and Serbian. Or Morrocan and Dutch. You see? If Jews can make a choice they should leave their French passport behind and take the Israeli passport.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Zelhar on February 10, 2017, 11:39:12 AM
It's odd to me that she singles out Jews. There are nations that don't permit double nationality, I think that includes some EU member nations like the Netherlands. The French are free to change their law. It is however a rather dumb law because for example it means that it would be impossible to deport criminals with dual nationality back to the middle east and Africa since they would no longer be dual French and Algerian/Moroccan etc. citizens. I think that laws should be set up to deport migrant criminals and permanently revoke their citizenship/visa.

Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on February 10, 2017, 01:09:19 PM
The woman is a Nazi plain and simple.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Ulli on February 10, 2017, 01:58:31 PM
She has a real chance of beeing the next French president.

And like the most new Europe right wing movements, she has a big problem with her identity and the identity of her country.  There are lots of concepts of France. There is i.e. the royal catholic France, The revolutanary France, The Nazi Vichy France, The de Gaulle France etc.

To overplay this she goes after the Jews in order to create identity by identifing the strange. (What is in fact not strange to France, because Jews have worn since centuries yarmulkes there.)

And if she starts like this, then Jews should give up their Israeli passport? I think this is insane.



Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Israel Chai on February 10, 2017, 02:35:35 PM
Neviski is obviously a supporter of her and her plan. Are you against her allowing dual Russian-French citizens, neviski?
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 11, 2017, 04:53:29 AM
It's odd to me that she singles out Jews. There are nations that don't permit double nationality, I think that includes some EU member nations like the Netherlands. The French are free to change their law. It is however a rather dumb law because for example it means that it would be impossible to deport criminals with dual nationality back to the middle east and Africa since they would no longer be dual French and Algerian/Moroccan etc. citizens. I think that laws should be set up to deport migrant criminals and permanently revoke their citizenship/visa.

In Holland there is something like 'double nationality' and it is terrible. Many muslims collect welfare from the Netherlands and escape to Morocco. They also do this when they commit crimes. They have Dutch passports but are loyal to their African country, as usual with muslims.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 11, 2017, 04:54:02 AM
The woman is a Nazi plain and simple.

You are a Nazi simple as it is.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 11, 2017, 04:56:38 AM
Neviski is obviously a supporter of her and her plan. Are you against her allowing dual Russian-French citizens, neviski?

Yes I am a supporter of her. I am against this plan. I believe people have an identity and nationality from one single country and not from 2 or 3. You can't be loyal to France if you have as well Russian nationality. Also in Holland we will get rid of ALL double nationalities. The Dutch passport or the other passport, if other passport you are OUT.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Zelhar on February 11, 2017, 08:02:30 AM
I had a dutch neighbor in Israel, and she told me she wouldn't get Israeli citizenship because than by dutch law she would have to forfeit her dutch passport. So maybe you changed the law or maybe the dutch law only works the other way round and forbids natural dutch citizens from becoming dual citizens of another nation?

But anyway can you explain to me how is forcing your migrants to give up their dual citizenship will improve things in Holland? Your goal should be to make them leave not to make them stay. If they only have one official "dutch" nationality, do you think they will suddenly forget that they are muslims? If they commit crimes and have dual nationality what you should do is immediately revoke their dutch status and deport them back to Morocco. But if they are no longer officially Moroccans than Morocco will decline to accept them and it is also illegal by international law to make a person stateless by revoking the only nationality he has.

I think that really the only people who can potentially be hurt by such law is American citizens, because if they renounce their citizenship they might have to pay a largee one time tax on their american assets and later regaining their citizenship might be impossible. Israelis for example won't face such bad consequences, they could easily regain citizenship if they later choose to return to Israel and the is no tax implications like with Americans.

 
In Holland there is something like 'double nationality' and it is terrible. Many muslims collect welfare from the Netherlands and escape to Morocco. They also do this when they commit crimes. They have Dutch passports but are loyal to their African country, as usual with muslims.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 11, 2017, 03:09:38 PM
I had a dutch neighbor in Israel, and she told me she wouldn't get Israeli citizenship because than by dutch law she would have to forfeit her dutch passport. So maybe you changed the law or maybe the dutch law only works the other way round and forbids natural dutch citizens from becoming dual citizens of another nation?

But anyway can you explain to me how is forcing your migrants to give up their dual citizenship will improve things in Holland? Your goal should be to make them leave not to make them stay. If they only have one official "dutch" nationality, do you think they will suddenly forget that they are muslims? If they commit crimes and have dual nationality what you should do is immediately revoke their dutch status and deport them back to Morocco. But if they are no longer officially Moroccans than Morocco will decline to accept them and it is also illegal by international law to make a person stateless by revoking the only nationality he has.

I think that really the only people who can potentially be hurt by such law is American citizens, because if they renounce their citizenship they might have to pay a largee one time tax on their american assets and later regaining their citizenship might be impossible. Israelis for example won't face such bad consequences, they could easily regain citizenship if they later choose to return to Israel and the is no tax implications like with Americans.

The new Gert Wilders laws will take away the Dutch passport if they make only a single mistake. Theft, robbery or any other criminal behaviour. Many need to chose and many will leave Holland as they never give up their roots. I am not sure why your neighbour had to make that decision to be honest.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on February 11, 2017, 03:48:05 PM
Yes I am a supporter of her. I am against this plan. I believe people have an identity and nationality from one single country and not from 2 or 3. You can't be loyal to France if you have as well Russian nationality. Also in Holland we will get rid of ALL double nationalities. The Dutch passport or the other passport, if other passport you are OUT.
Shlomo, Chaim, Lisa, are you seeing this?

Consider yourself reported.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 11, 2017, 06:13:47 PM
Shlomo, Chaim, Lisa, are you seeing this?

Consider yourself reported.

Poor kid. We are not on a communist or a nazi page. We do not report people just like that. Marine LePen is a great women, a great leader. Get over it girl. Civilised man and woman debate, discuss etc. Little girls cry and report  :laugh:
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 11, 2017, 07:31:58 PM
Suddenly the far right believes in the EU.

Lol
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Israel Chai on February 12, 2017, 04:31:59 PM
Yes I am a supporter of her. I am against this plan. I believe people have an identity and nationality from one single country and not from 2 or 3. You can't be loyal to France if you have as well Russian nationality. Also in Holland we will get rid of ALL double nationalities. The Dutch passport or the other passport, if other passport you are OUT.
Shlomo, Chaim, Lisa, are you seeing this?

Consider yourself reported.

No no pal, leave him.

She's not against dual-Russian citizenship, that's the joke of the whole thing. Russians will be loyal to France and not Israelis. Agree now?
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on February 12, 2017, 05:11:08 PM
If JTF is now pro-LePen, it looks like I might have to reconsider being in it. I'm not some ape who ask "how high" to jump when someone waves a supposedly anti-Muslim carrot in front of me.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Zelhar on February 12, 2017, 05:39:49 PM
Why do you think JTF is pro Le Pen? The occasional KGB operatives among the register members don't speak for JTF, they represent Putin.
If JTF is now pro-LePen, it looks like I might have to reconsider being in it. I'm not some ape who ask "how high" to jump when someone waves a supposedly anti-Muslim carrot in front of me.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 12, 2017, 06:19:25 PM
If JTF is now pro-LePen, it looks like I might have to reconsider being in it. I'm not some ape who ask "how high" to jump when someone waves a supposedly anti-Muslim carrot in front of me.

JTF is not. Some individuals are (what is their good right). I am not on this forum for no reason. I support JTF. I believe LePen and Front National will make France a more safer place for the Jews. Same as I think the Dutch Party of Freedom, the Flamish 'Vlaams Belang' and many other patriotic movements in Europe will make it safer for our Jewish neighbours in our cities.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 12, 2017, 09:31:03 PM
If JTF is now pro-LePen, it looks like I might have to reconsider being in it. I'm not some ape who ask "how high" to jump when someone waves a supposedly anti-Muslim carrot in front of me.

The same guy is pro trump but JTF isn't (unless he does good things).   JTF is not pro Lapen AFAIK
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 12, 2017, 09:33:33 PM
JTF is not. Some individuals are (what is their good right). I am not on this forum for no reason. I support JTF. I believe LePen and Front National will make France a more safer place for the Jews. Same as I think the Dutch Party of Freedom, the Flamish 'Vlaams Belang' and many other patriotic movements in Europe will make it safer for our Jewish neighbours in our cities.

Oh but why?  Why would they want to make their country safe for Jews?  Isn't the belief of these groups (and you?) that Jews are the ones bringing in all these Islamic immigrants/refugees?     

Jews know what people make their lives unsafe, so no the majority of them are not behind that immigration movement!
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on February 12, 2017, 10:24:48 PM
JTF is not. Some individuals are (what is their good right). I am not on this forum for no reason. I support JTF. I believe LePen and Front National will make France a more safer place for the Jews. Same as I think the Dutch Party of Freedom, the Flamish 'Vlaams Belang' and many other patriotic movements in Europe will make it safer for our Jewish neighbours in our cities.
I think you are a previously banned WN troll who is back in a new guise.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 13, 2017, 02:22:41 AM
Oh but why?  Why would they want to make their country safe for Jews?  Isn't the belief of these groups (and you?) that Jews are the ones bringing in all these Islamic immigrants/refugees?     

Jews know what people make their lives unsafe, so no the majority of them are not behind that immigration movement!

I have never said Jews are behind bringing in all these Islamic immigrants. Neither did Marine LePen. That's a lie but I am used to your lies so I am not surprised. The fact that there are Jews in Europe supporting mass Islamic immigration is the most stupid thing ever. Is the Jew not the Muslims biggest enemy? They hate the Jews more then they hate the Christians or any other people. That's what I have said. Don't make up stories here.. Use that for somewhere else.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 13, 2017, 02:23:37 AM
I think you are a previously banned WN troll who is back in a new guise.

Excuse me?
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Israel Chai on February 13, 2017, 03:49:55 AM
Still waiting for an answer to my question, bud. I didn't embarrass you did I?
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Israel Chai on February 13, 2017, 03:53:54 AM
If JTF is now pro-LePen, it looks like I might have to reconsider being in it. I'm not some ape who ask "how high" to jump when someone waves a supposedly anti-Muslim carrot in front of me.

Um is now? Who you think the we're in "you know we're right" up top is referring to? Just JTF? Or maybe JTF and also... Lepen?

And if we tell you to ignore everything that is right and support someone bad, you better already know we want "super duper high", got it mister?
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 13, 2017, 05:32:54 AM
Still waiting for an answer to my question, bud. I didn't embarrass you did I?

What question?
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 13, 2017, 05:37:55 AM
Oh but why?  Why would they want to make their country safe for Jews?  Isn't the belief of these groups (and you?) that Jews are the ones bringing in all these Islamic immigrants/refugees?     

Jews know what people make their lives unsafe, so no the majority of them are not behind that immigration movement!

Some good advice: Listen to Chaim's newest JTF this week's video. Chaim will explain you who is the real problem and the real problem is not a LePen or a Trump. He will also explain who are the people who sell out there own people for money and respect to all kind of dodgy EU millionaires. I blame Christians and Europeans for many many things they do wrong. Maybe it's time you start blaming your people for what they do wrong! Here is the video, enjoy!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUYuOZdAV3U
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Chiram on February 13, 2017, 07:18:43 PM
The National Front would rather see Jews wearing a yellow star than a kippah.

There are major differences between Wilders' PVV and Le Pen's party, Geert is a liberal anti-islam populist, while the FN is nostalgic for Vichy.

By saying Americans and Israelis will lose their dual citizenship, but Russians can keep theirs, Le Pen is putting her cards on the table.

Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Lisa on February 13, 2017, 07:33:15 PM
JTF doesn't support Marine Le Pen.  If Nevski supports her, it's his own business.  And I disagree about only having one national passport.  Zelhar put it best when he said it won't make the migrants suddenly forget their religion. 
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on February 13, 2017, 07:56:46 PM
There are major differences between Wilders' PVV and Le Pen's party, Geert is a liberal anti-islam populist, while the FN is nostalgic for Vichy. 


So Wilders is like Trump?

Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 14, 2017, 05:53:09 AM


So Wilders is like Trump?

Totally different. Wilders is a gentlemen and he doesn't behave like a lunatic on stage like Trump is doing time to time. Wilders is not rich and gave up his freedom to protect others. He live in save houses, 24/7 security, armed vehicles, bullet proof vests just because he is speaking out against Islam and is pro-Israel. All this for a 15,000 euro a month what he is earning for being a Dutch member of parliament. Next to that is he married with a Hungarian Jew from the Hungarian embassy in The Hague.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 14, 2017, 05:56:39 AM
The National Front would rather see Jews wearing a yellow star than a kippah.

There are major differences between Wilders' PVV and Le Pen's party, Geert is a liberal anti-islam populist, while the FN is nostalgic for Vichy.

By saying Americans and Israelis will lose their dual citizenship, but Russians can keep theirs, Le Pen is putting her cards on the table.

What are 'Americans'? America counts tens of millions of blacks, muslims, Mexicans and other people from around the world. We don't want them in Europe. That will happen if we allow them dual citizenship.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 14, 2017, 08:39:13 AM
What are 'Americans'? America counts tens of millions of blacks, muslims, Mexicans and other people from around the world. We don't want them in Europe. That will happen if we allow them dual citizenship.

This makes no sense.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Israel Chai on February 14, 2017, 11:33:00 AM
What question?

She allows dual-Russian citizenship. Is it true that Russians can make loyal French citizens, but not Israelis?
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Israel Chai on February 14, 2017, 11:37:24 AM
This makes no sense.

It assumes there are more minorities in America than there are, and also assumes that Lepen won't let them come, when she would and just take their passports. It makes sense, just silly.

Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on February 14, 2017, 11:40:04 AM
Some good advice: Listen to Chaim's newest JTF this week's video. Chaim will explain you who is the real problem and the real problem is not a LePen or a Trump. He will also explain who are the people who sell out there own people for money and respect to all kind of dodgy EU millionaires. I blame Christians and Europeans for many many things they do wrong. Maybe it's time you start blaming your people for what they do wrong! Here is the video, enjoy!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUYuOZdAV3U
But you're not an anti-Semite.  ::) ::) ::)
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 14, 2017, 12:41:09 PM
This makes no sense.

What makes no sense? So who are this Americans and why should the French grand them with dual citizenship?
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 14, 2017, 12:42:34 PM
She allows dual-Russian citizenship. Is it true that Russians can make loyal French citizens, but not Israelis?

I don't believe Russians can and Israelis can't. So I disagree with this stand.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 14, 2017, 12:44:12 PM
But you're not an anti-Semite.  ::) ::) ::)

What? Are you on crack? Chaim just explained in his video who are the real enemies of Israel and the Jewish people and you call me a anti-semite? Someone who contributes on this forum calling a anti-semite for no reason. Are Chaim and the JTF anti-semites as well for pointing out Jewish traitors who sell out Israel and the Jewish people? You are nuts women!
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on February 14, 2017, 02:00:19 PM
What are 'Americans'? America counts tens of millions of blacks, muslims, Mexicans and other people from around the world. We don't want them in Europe. That will happen if we allow them dual citizenship.


I think the issue is French citizens who immigrate to the US and obtain US citizenship. It's the same as French Jews making aliyah. I don't think many Americans want to move to France and become French citizens.

Even if Americans wanted to become French, it's certainly better than North African Muslims and Sub-Saharan Africans from former French colonies.


Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 14, 2017, 06:11:05 PM
It assumes there are more minorities in America than there are, and also assumes that Lepen won't let them come, when she would and just take their passports. It makes sense, just silly.

And the dual citizens already residing there?   Will their ametican passports have to be confiscated?
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Israel Chai on February 14, 2017, 11:57:42 PM
I don't believe Russians can and Israelis can't. So I disagree with this stand.

Ah. There are other contradictory and retarded stands she takes that make it obvious it's not about helping France, it's about scoring political points. She wants to ban the burka and the kippah to stop islam. And make Israel stop building houses. This women does not share your values, you're conservative and nationalist, she's socialist and her nationalism is a farce.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Israel Chai on February 15, 2017, 12:03:41 AM
And the dual citizens already residing there?   Will their ametican passports have to be confiscated?

Well due dual citizenship being allowed and there is no massive exodus from America to France, there has never been an exodus from a capitalist country to a socialist one btw, this is all silly. And clearly, yes, but don't worry, what does a socialist economy like France need foreign businessmen for? LePen isn't an economist.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 15, 2017, 09:17:47 AM


I think the issue is French citizens who immigrate to the US and obtain US citizenship. It's the same as French Jews making aliyah. I don't think many Americans want to move to France and become French citizens.

Even if Americans wanted to become French, it's certainly better than North African Muslims and Sub-Saharan Africans from former French colonies.

Fully agree on that.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Lisa on February 15, 2017, 10:35:57 PM
Some good advice: Listen to Chaim's newest JTF this week's video. Chaim will explain you who is the real problem and the real problem is not a LePen or a Trump. He will also explain who are the people who sell out there own people for money and respect to all kind of dodgy EU millionaires. I blame Christians and Europeans for many many things they do wrong. Maybe it's time you start blaming your people for what they do wrong! Here is the video, enjoy!:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUYuOZdAV3U

Nevski, your earlier post before the one I just quoted sounds like to you blame *The Jews* for all the bad things going on in Europe with the Muslims.  Yes there are crazy liberal Jews who support open borders.  I think they're idiots, as do the other Jewish JTF'ers.  But Angela Merkel is a commie nut who is not Jewish.  And the Jews are not to blame for her.  Now you say you blame Christians for things they do wrong. Yet I don't see it. 

If you really want to know who is behind the mass Muslim migration, Google Bat Ye'or and the book Eurabia as well as Orianna Fallacci's The Rage and The Pride.  It's really more about not having the oil flow interrupted and forming a Euro-Arab block against the power of the US. 

Anyway, I'm saying this because Lewinsky is a good loyal member of JTF.  Same with Kahane Was Right.  They're both very good guys.   
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on February 16, 2017, 04:00:10 AM
Nevski, your earlier post before the one I just quoted sounds like to you blame *The Jews* for all the bad things going on in Europe with the Muslims.  Yes there are crazy liberal Jews who support open borders.  I think they're idiots, as do the other Jewish JTF'ers.  But Angela Merkel is a commie nut who is not Jewish.  And the Jews are not to blame for her.  Now you say you blame Christians for things they do wrong. Yet I don't see it. 

If you really want to know who is behind the mass Muslim migration, Google Bat Ye'or and the book Eurabia as well as Orianna Fallacci's The Rage and The Pride.  It's really more about not having the oil flow interrupted and forming a Euro-Arab block against the power of the US. 

Anyway, I'm saying this because Lewinsky is a good loyal member of JTF.  Same with Kahane Was Right.  They're both very good guys.
Thank you Lisa! I truly appreciate your kind words.  :)

This Nevski guy is either a Russian agent as Zelhar insinuated, or (more likely in my opinion) simply a once-banned StørmFrønt troll who has reappeared under a new username.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Israel Chai on February 16, 2017, 05:48:11 AM
Thank you Lisa! I truly appreciate your kind words.  :)

This Nevski guy is either a Russian agent as Zelhar insinuated, or (more likely in my opinion) simply a once-banned StørmFrønt troll who has reappeared under a new username.

Eh I don't mind him, his attempts to conceal his disdain for me are rather endearing.

He's a European conservative. He has no one sane to represent him, and no place to turn for real info from his home. It's like with electing Trump, the media spends its life attacking the pathetic right Europe musters, and so you support them because who else? Think about it, what does the guy have to lose? Muslims are tearing his land and people to shreds, he'll side with the Satan himself if it means saving his nation.

He also knows very little about Judaism, like most people, but his religion specifically teaches all kinds of derogatory things about Jews I thought were true when I was, and I see it coming out every now and then.

I don't think he's a bad guy or that he's at war with the forum. No one had a problem with him before mentalita got banned, the hostility seems to be exaggerated and reactionary on his end. A grudge like that is personal and grows until its grower uproots it, so we can have a conversation about mentalita, review why he was banned and make peace on it. Maybe they should unban first and say you're giving him a chance. Or we can keep up the endearing muffled anger that makes me laugh, whatever floats our boats.

Like I told you guys "ban me I don't care" for months in response to threats. I love JTF, but it's a forum, it's run by people that do things because they want the forum to survive. If you can really get upset about that in your daily life now and carry it around with you, you're pretty thin-skinned.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: ChabadKahanist on February 17, 2017, 09:34:27 AM
May France be flooded with more Muslims than they can handle & be dimmys in their own land!!!!
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on February 17, 2017, 01:15:56 PM
May France be flooded with more Muslims than they can handle & be dimmys in their own land!!!!
I hardly think you need to wish for this--this is coming to pass as we speak...
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 17, 2017, 05:30:00 PM
Why so paranoid people? Not sure what some of you guys use, but the speculations are insane. People who shout 'Russian agent' or 'ex-StørmFrønt member' or 'banned troll'. Actually I am a Mossad agent and I can prove it. Just PM me.  :laugh: :::D
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Zelhar on February 17, 2017, 06:12:11 PM
Actually in KGB lingo you are a 'useful idiot'. They don't pay you but you still do what they want you to do.
Why so paranoid people? Not sure what some of you guys use, but the speculations are insane. People who shout 'Russian agent' or 'ex-StørmFrønt member' or 'banned troll'. Actually I am a Mossad agent and I can prove it. Just PM me.  :laugh: :::D
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 18, 2017, 06:47:28 PM
Actually in KGB lingo you are a 'useful idiot'. They don't pay you but you still do what they want you to do.

Haha I don't. You are just a paranoid idiot being paranoid on a forum together with a few other paranoid people. In any case, what would the KGB do in a case like this? This forum is a place for very funny people to meet and speak about who is bad and who is wrong, and speculate about who is from the KGB, who is an anti-semite and who is not... And of course the people here that defend Jewish anti-semites... Just protect them because they are Jewish, even if they damage the Jewish people day in day out.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Lisa on February 18, 2017, 08:55:33 PM
Haha I don't. You are just a paranoid idiot being paranoid on a forum together with a few other paranoid people. In any case, what would the KGB do in a case like this? This forum is a place for very funny people to meet and speak about who is bad and who is wrong, and speculate about who is from the KGB, who is an anti-semite and who is not... And of course the people here that defend Jewish anti-semites... Just protect them because they are Jewish, even if they damage the Jewish people day in day out.

Zelhar is no idiot!   But if you think this forum is for "paranoid, very funny people" that defend Jewish anti-semites, then why are you here? 
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Zelhar on February 18, 2017, 09:37:34 PM
For the record, I don't think you are a kgb agent. You defend and justify Putin even though you are Dutch, even though Putin is an adversary to the free world and is responsible for killing dozens of Dutch citizens. 'Useful idiots' are people who help to promote the soviet (or now putinist Russia) interest, or to weaken and destabilize their own nations from within, not because they follow kgb orders but because they believe in the wrong ideals which kgb misinformation actively propagates in target countries. Again this is not me calling you an idiot, this is the KGB nickname to people who help them unbeknowingly.
Haha I don't. You are just a paranoid idiot being paranoid on a forum together with a few other paranoid people. In any case, what would the KGB do in a case like this? This forum is a place for very funny people to meet and speak about who is bad and who is wrong, and speculate about who is from the KGB, who is an anti-semite and who is not... And of course the people here that defend Jewish anti-semites... Just protect them because they are Jewish, even if they damage the Jewish people day in day out.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on February 18, 2017, 11:31:20 PM
Isn't Nevski a Serb? I thought he was a Pro-Russian Serb. Nevski sounds like a Russian name. I guess he's a Serb in Holland.


Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on February 19, 2017, 12:04:52 AM
Whatever the hell Nevski is, he is clearly an anti-Semite whose goal is to blame Jews for what is wrong with Europe. I don't care if he is an actual Putinist agent, a Serb, or a Croat, but he is a WN. Actually he reminds me a bit of SuperMentalita.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 19, 2017, 04:46:27 AM
I will delete my profile on this forum. In the past the JTF did a very good job, and had great militants members. Today I only see paranoid, miserable lunatics posting all kind of nonsense and shouting 'anti-semite' to people who contribute and defend Jews in Europe in any way they can. Disgusting people who do not represent Jewish people. My friends in Israel are ashamed of people like some of you here. You guys remind me of nazi's.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Israel Chai on February 19, 2017, 05:06:12 AM
I will delete my profile on this forum. In the past the JTF did a very good job, and had great militants members. Today I only see paranoid, miserable lunatics posting all kind of nonsense and shouting 'anti-semite' to people who contribute and defend Jews in Europe in any way they can. Disgusting people who do not represent Jewish people. My friends in Israel are ashamed of people like some of you here. You guys remind me of nazi's.

Bye.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Zelhar on February 19, 2017, 05:24:13 AM
I thought his name was a tribute to the medieval russian national hero Alexander Nevsky.
Isn't Nevski a Serb? I thought he was a Pro-Russian Serb. Nevski sounds like a Russian name. I guess he's a Serb in Holland.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Israel Chai on February 19, 2017, 05:54:55 AM
OK, one thing that is common here is people caring about other people's lives. I've never really asked who anyone is beyond basic labels to understand bias. If anyone told me anything about their life, I probably forgot, and don't tell me because I don't care. I also don't care who Nevisky is. He did make a problem with liberals look like a problem with Jews, but that doesn't necessarily make him anything anyone said he was, he could just not be very logical too.

Who cares what he is. He posts some good things sometimes and blames Jews some other times and defends evil politicians sometimes. It's a semi-interesting argument when I disagree and news occasionally where I don't. What everyone here is does not matter to anyone but yourself, what you do is what matters.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on February 19, 2017, 07:15:32 PM
According to his first post, he's from Bulgaria.

http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,79838.msg656768.html#msg656768

Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Nevski on February 19, 2017, 07:32:39 PM
According to his first post, he's from Bulgaria.

http://jtf.org/forum/index.php/topic,79838.msg656768.html#msg656768

That's right. Someone is paying attention.
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Israel Chai on February 19, 2017, 08:02:57 PM
OMG Bulgaria? I should have known. How didn't I see this coming, explains everything of course Bulgaria. Isn't that interesting too, Bulgaria! Now I understand everything about him.

Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Kahane-Was-Right BT on February 19, 2017, 08:33:35 PM
I will delete my profile on this forum. In the past the JTF did a very good job, and had great militants members. Today I only see paranoid, miserable lunatics posting all kind of nonsense and shouting 'anti-semite' to people who contribute and defend Jews in Europe in any way they can. Disgusting people who do not represent Jewish people. My friends in Israel are ashamed of people like some of you here. You guys remind me of nazi's.

Fag
Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Binyamin Yisrael on February 20, 2017, 12:47:28 AM
So is he a Serb of living in Bulgaria or is he an ethnic Bulgarian?

Why do people think he's Dutch?

Title: Re: LePen says French Jews can't be Israeli
Post by: Israel Chai on February 21, 2017, 02:07:10 AM
So is he a Serb of living in Bulgaria or is he an ethnic Bulgarian?

Why do people think he's Dutch?

If I had every bit of info about him from birth till now, why would you care?