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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: RationalThought110 on September 24, 2007, 09:55:12 PM
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Is it still said in the public schools?
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We used to say it at my elementary school. At my school now (which is a public school) we don't though (not that I would anyway), so I'm not sure...
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Last I heard America wanted to change the words to the pledge to appease the atheists. Thank God that never happend!
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THANK G-d WE OVERRULED EISENHOWER'S PLEA TO NOT HAVE G-d ADDED TO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. That's fear of Communism put to good use!
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We used to say it at my elementary school. At my school now (which is a public school) we don't though (not that I would anyway), so I'm not sure...
Why would you be unwilling to say it?
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This nation was founded on biblical principles, and we deserve to mention the entity that wrote it in our pledge! We our becoming an atheist nation, which is very sad. After all our founding fathers did to make sure our freedom to practice any religion we want was maintained. Americans take this right for granted. What a terrible generation of ungrateful degenerates.
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We used to say it at my elementary school. At my school now (which is a public school) we don't though (not that I would anyway), so I'm not sure...
Why would you be unwilling to say it?
Because I do not pledge my allegance to the United States of America. ::)
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We used to say it at my elementary school. At my school now (which is a public school) we don't though (not that I would anyway), so I'm not sure...
Why would you be unwilling to say it?
Because I do not pledge my allegance to the United States of America. ::)
Well, if you're an American, and you don't stand by the country you live in that's anti-American.
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We used to say it at my elementary school. At my school now (which is a public school) we don't though (not that I would anyway), so I'm not sure...
Why would you be unwilling to say it?
Because I do not pledge my allegance to the United States of America. ::)
Well, if you're an American, and you don't stand by the country you live in that's anti-American.
Ok then - I'm fine with that. Ask Chaim - I bet he wouldn't either.
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We used to say it at my elementary school. At my school now (which is a public school) we don't though (not that I would anyway), so I'm not sure...
Why would you be unwilling to say it?
Because I do not pledge my allegiance to the United States of America. ::)
Well, if you're an American, and you don't stand by the country you live in that's anti-American.
Ok then - I'm fine with that. Ask Chaim - I bet he wouldn't either.
Chaim is loyal to America, as he is to Israel. Why else do think JTF is trying to save America as much as Israel. Chaim loves them both. Of course, if Chaim had to choose between the two, he'd probably say Israel.
Pledging your allegiance to flag doesn't mean you agree with the direction the country is going in, if that's what you're getting at. It simply means you are proud to an America, and you are willing to defend it.
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We used to say it at my elementary school. At my school now (which is a public school) we don't though (not that I would anyway), so I'm not sure...
Why would you be unwilling to say it?
Because I do not pledge my allegiance to the United States of America. ::)
Well, if you're an American, and you don't stand by the country you live in that's anti-American.
Ok then - I'm fine with that. Ask Chaim - I bet he wouldn't either.
Chaim is loyal to America, as he is to Israel. Why else do think JTF is trying to save America as much as Israel. Chaim loves them both. Of course, if Chaim had to choose between the two, he'd probably say Israel.
Pledging your allegiance to flag doesn't mean you agree with the direction the country is going in, if that's what you're getting at. It simply means you are proud to an America, and you are willing to defend it.
He's answered the question before.
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This nation was founded on biblical principles, and we deserve to mention the entity that wrote it in our pledge! We our becoming an atheist nation, which is very sad. After all our founding fathers did to make sure our freedom to practice any religion we want was maintained. Americans take this right for granted. What a terrible generation of ungrateful degenerates.
I saw a recent poll showing that America was 95% religious.
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We used to say it at my elementary school. At my school now (which is a public school) we don't though (not that I would anyway), so I'm not sure...
Why would you be unwilling to say it?
Because I do not pledge my allegiance to the United States of America. ::)
Well, if you're an American, and you don't stand by the country you live in that's anti-American.
Ok then - I'm fine with that. Ask Chaim - I bet he wouldn't either.
Chaim is loyal to America, as he is to Israel. Why else do think JTF is trying to save America as much as Israel. Chaim loves them both. Of course, if Chaim had to choose between the two, he'd probably say Israel.
Pledging your allegiance to flag doesn't mean you agree with the direction the country is going in, if that's what you're getting at. It simply means you are proud to an America, and you are willing to defend it.
He's answered the question before.
It depends how one interprets the pledge. I'm not about to join the military and take a bullet for this country, if that's what your interpretation of "allegiance" is.
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This nation was founded on biblical principles, and we deserve to mention the entity that wrote it in our pledge! We our becoming an atheist nation, which is very sad. After all our founding fathers did to make sure our freedom to practice any religion we want was maintained. Americans take this right for granted. What a terrible generation of ungrateful degenerates.
I saw a recent poll showing that America was 95% religious.
Well, polls are inaccurate, just like these scientist studies that everybody praises to be so true. Look at all the news talk show hosts and their guests. Most of them are not bible-respecting people.
And if you were to go to a liberal college, which is almost any, you would see most have denounced their religions and belief in God. Most liberals are atheists.
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Doesn't it level out nationally though? I mean in the southern states most people are strong Christians whereas the industrial cities seem to have sunk into a multicultural blend of mixed religions and secularism.
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Because I do not pledge my allegance to the United States of America. ::)
I don't like your anti-American sentiment.
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Doesn't it level out nationally though? I mean in the southern states most people are strong Christians whereas the industrial cities seem to have sunk into a multicultural blend of mixed religions and secularism.
The pledge is in reference to Christian's interpretation of God. This nation was built by Christian and founded on biblical principles, like it or not.
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Ok then - I'm fine with that. Ask Chaim - I bet he wouldn't either.
I think you're wrong about Chaim. He may disagree with specific policies. However, he wouldn't advocate attitudes or behaviors to undermine the country.
For example, although Chaim may have thought it was a bad idea for the US to get involved in the Vietnam War, he disagreed with the behaviors of John Kerry and Jane Fonda.
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Because I do not pledge my allegance to the United States of America. ::)
I don't like your anti-American sentiment.
That's what I'm saying. If you're going to live in this country, respect its heritage, its real heritage.
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That's what I'm saying. If you're going to live in this country, respect its heritage, its real heritage.
Agreed
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Ok then - I'm fine with that. Ask Chaim - I bet he wouldn't either.
I think you're wrong about Chaim. He may disagree with specific policies. However, he wouldn't advocate attitudes or behaviors to undermine the country.
For example, although Chaim may have thought it was a bad idea for the US to get involved in the Vietnam War, he disagreed with the behaviors of John Kerry and Jane Fonda.
I never heard Chaim speak about that. There's no way he'd say something to put down America. He's very patriotic. JTF is about patriotism for America and Israel. By considering one's self a JTF member you are pledging your allegiance to America and Israel. Otherwise, OdKahaneChai, I'm not sure why you're apart of this movement. JTF is a America-loving movement.
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Gone in Canada. When I was in Elementry School we used to sing G-d save the Queen and Oh Canada. Both have been exterminated from Canadian Public Academia to show you where we are headed...
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Gone in Canada. When I was in Elementry School we used to sing G-d save the Queen and Oh Canada. Both have been exterminated from Canadian Public Academia to show you where we are headed...
That's why we should be thankful that we have a pledge that mentions God in it. At least America has maintained some of its original principles.
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I still think that Israel needs a pledge of allegiance which should be required to sit in the Knesset. This would remove some leaders of the Knesset who are not loyal and openly want to destroy the country.
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I still think that Israel needs a pledge of allegiance which should be required to sit in the Knesset. This would remove some leaders of the Knesset who are not loyal and openly want to destroy the country.
Very true. Israel needs to get religious and patriotic, again.
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Is it still said in the public schools?
Yes.
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Last I heard America wanted to change the words to the pledge to appease the atheists. Thank G-d that never happend!
No. That was noise from parents who didn't want their children to say "God" while in school (i.e., ...One Nation...Under God...) ::) I love that the Pledge of Alligiance is a part of the school day. That and singing "My Country Tis Of Thee". (Sorry, I was revisiting my childhood.)
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Last I heard America wanted to change the words to the pledge to appease the atheists. Thank G-d that never happend!
No. That was noise from parents who didn't want their children to say "G-d" while in school (i.e., ...One Nation...Under G-d...) ::) I love that the Pledge of Alligiance is a part of the school day. That and singing "My Country Tis Of Thee". (Sorry, I was revisiting my childhood.)
There was developing legislation on this very topic, but it was so foolish, a bill never came of it.
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Last I heard America wanted to change the words to the pledge to appease the atheists. Thank G-d that never happend!
No. That was noise from parents who didn't want their children to say "G-d" while in school (i.e., ...One Nation...Under G-d...) ::) I love that the Pledge of Alligiance is a part of the school day. That and singing "My Country Tis Of Thee". (Sorry, I was revisiting my childhood.)
There was developing legislation on this very topic, but it was so foolish, a bill never came of it.
That's stupid. They're trying to erase what most Americans, even some blacks and others who dont' know the words to the National Anthem stand for. Yes, there are people who stand, put their right hands over their hearts, and don't know the National Anthem but they love their country.
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I guess I must be getting really old and the world must be just totally different now. I can't understand how this is even a question. Why would any American citizen have a problem with the Pledge of Allegiance. When I was in grade school each morning the principal use the public address system and started the day off with the entire school saying the pledge. Back then you had better have stood up and take part like it or not or you were going to be in trouble with the teacher and the principal and you more than likely were going to get you a-s kicked by your fellow classmates after school. Have the pod people come like in the Invasion Of The Body Snatchers movie and taken all the Americans away? I know America is not what it use to be and people are better informed on the issues today so its easy to become disenchanted with our government. The thing is without that pledge we fall into the one world order is thats what people want who don't care to say the pledge? When I went to school each and every classroom had a flag in a flag holder mounted over the blackboard. I have visited some schools now days and I was distressed to see most classes have no flag in them or if they did it was a small paper one mounted on a bulletin board. I really believe the one worlders have more to do with this then meets the eye.
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We still say it every morning in my school.
In my first school we sang a patriotic song every morning.
I love the pledge and the songs!
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I guess I must be getting really old and the world must be just totally different now. I can't understand how this is even a question. Why would any American citizen have a problem with the Pledge of Allegiance. When I was in grade school each morning the principal use the public address system and started the day off with the entire school saying the pledge. Back then you had better have stood up and take part like it or not or you were going to be in trouble with the teacher and the principal and you more than likely were going to get you a-s kicked by your fellow classmates after school. Have the pod people come like in the Invasion Of The Body Snatchers movie and taken all the Americans away? I know America is not what it use to be and people are better informed on the issues today so its easy to become disenchanted with our government. The thing is without that pledge we fall into the one world order is thats what people want who don't care to say the pledge? When I went to school each and every classroom had a flag in a flag holder mounted over the blackboard. I have visited some schools now days and I was distressed to see most classes have no flag in them or if they did it was a small paper one mounted on a bulletin board. I really believe the one worlders have more to do with this then meets the eye.
This is what I remember also. All the classrooms had a flag. In the morning we would stand, hand over heart, and recite the pledge.
Back then you had better have stood up and take part like it or not or you were going to be in trouble with the teacher and the principal and you more than likely were going to get you a-s kicked by your fellow classmates after school.
Taking part was never an issue. I never remember any visits from the ACLU or parents objecting to G-d or patriotism.
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We still say it every morning in my school.
In my first school we sang a patriotic song every morning.
I love the pledge and the songs!
Aren't you your mother's girl? :D
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We always said it in school. If people are scared of their kids saying the pledge because "God" is in it, it stands to reason they should be afraid to spend those good old US dollars which also say "God" on them...I would be more than happy to take those wicked wicked dollars off their hands ;D I always try to be helpful:P
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I can't understand the peverse 'logic' of the liberal.
The USA is the ONLY country with real free speech, real equallity, real freedom and the right to own weapons for people to defend themselves with against their own government. It's the ONLY really FREE country. Yet (according to the liberals) pledging allegiance to it is a violation of somebody's rights! ???
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We always said it in school. If people are scared of their kids saying the pledge because "G-d" is in it, it stands to reason they should be afraid to spend those good old US dollars which also say "G-d" on them...I would be more than happy to take those wicked wicked dollars off their hands ;D I always try to be helpful:P
I see what your saying however the evil animals that object to the fact that IN G-d We Trust is on the dollar are to wrapped up in themselves to really care about the small print on the bill that invokes G-d's grace. All they know is that there should not be anything anywhere that will keep the American people united and the last thing they want is to be reminded of G-d.
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American people are very Patriotic. Nothing of the sort takes place here in England but it some catholic/church of england schools, they sing hymns.
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We have national emblems in every class; and since 1989 the crosses on walls; and lesson are started by Lord's preyer; and this goverment reintroduced school uniforms; But Americans are indeed very patriotic; I never saw so many national flags flied by citisens on their houses; without any order in any country in the world.
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American people are very Patriotic. Nothing of the sort takes place here in England but it some catholic/church of england schools, they sing hymns.
Not any more. American people used to be patriotic back in the '50's! Patrotism was resurrected for a short-lived stint as a fad after 9/11, but it soon faded away like most fads.
Most liberal morons don't care what happens to this country. They don't do anything to stop the evils, so, they must not care.
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After 9/11,I took the flag bumper sticker off my car because,Those who went out and bought their new [Chinese made]American flags are nothing more than sunny day patriots.Where are all the car flags now?True patriots are a minority these days.
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At a school in Colorodo, some students walk out of their classes each day in protest. They have attempted to change the words and make their own pledge.
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At a school in Colorodo, some students walk out of their classes each day in protest. They have attempted to change the words and make their own pledge.
Deport them to Mexico, Africa or Canaan aka Canada. ::) ;D
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They don't say "G-d" in New York City schools now..
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Gone in Canada. When I was in Elementary School we used to sing G-d save the Queen and Oh Canada. Both have been exterminated from Canadian Public Academia to show you where we are headed...
That is a terrible and despicable thing to happen.