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Title: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Yisrael on July 29, 2007, 12:54:00 AM

Brooklyn, NY - A 23-year-old man was arrested Friday on hate-crime charges after he threw a Quran in a toilet at Pace University on two separate occasions.

Stanislav Shmulevich of Brooklyn, was arrested on charges of criminal mischief and aggravated harassment, both hate crimes. It's unclear if he was a student at the school.
Police say the Islamic book was found in a toilet at Pace's lower Manhattan campus by a teacher. A student found another book in a toilet.

The incidents came amid a spate of vandalism at Pace University, someone scrawled racial slurs on a student's car at the Westchester County campus and on a bathroom wall at the campus in lower Manhattan. Police didn't link Shmulevich to those crimes.
Treatment of the Quran is a sensitive issue for Muslims, who view the book as a sacred object and mistreating it as an offense against God.

Pace University has 14,000 students on its campuses in New York City and Westchester County. [1010 Wins]
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Shoshana on July 29, 2007, 12:55:27 AM
What sort of name is that? Russian?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 29, 2007, 12:57:14 AM
This should be challenged in the Supreme Court. If the koran was his property, it's his business what he does with it.

If flag burning is protected under the 1st ammendment, why isn't koran flushing?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Yisrael on July 29, 2007, 01:01:35 AM
Being Anti-America is really patriotic according to Hillary.

Being Anti-Islam is anti-Peace, anti-Open Minded.

Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 29, 2007, 01:04:14 AM
Being Anti-America is really patriotic according to Hillary.

Being Anti-Islam is anti-Peace, anti-Open Minded.



They should still see what the supreme court says. And where is the ACLU on this?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 29, 2007, 01:09:53 AM
The ACLU fights to get these kinds of laws passed, silly.  ::)

And I know of no case of people getting prosecuted for burning Israeli flags or breaking menorahs, which happens every single day in America.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 29, 2007, 01:12:27 AM
The ACLU fights to get these kinds of laws passed, silly.  ::)

And I know of no case of people getting prosecuted for burning Israeli flags or breaking menorahs, which happens every single day in America.
The ACLU championed the cause of flag burners. I'd love to hear them explain their double standard if they have indeed sought to criminalise koran flushing.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: jdl4ever on July 29, 2007, 03:38:12 AM
Throwing the quaran in the toilet is an insult to the toilet!
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: DownwithIslam on July 29, 2007, 03:45:31 AM
That guy is a good jew. I hope there was turd in the bowl when he threw that gay porno into it.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: kellymaureen on July 29, 2007, 03:50:00 AM
The koran is just a book, it may be important to some people, but it boils down to being just a book...it is not illegal to destroy a book if it is your property. If he damaged the toilets or plumbing in any way then I guess he could be charged with that, in any case if he did throw a koran in the toilet its the TOILET that got desecreated not the book ;)   There was a case in I think it was Nashville where a koran was left on a mosque doorstep with bacon between each page, they tried to get it investigated as a hate crime but failed, evidently its not against the law to put bacon in a book...the most they could get was perhaps littering. :laugh:
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 29, 2007, 03:51:43 AM
That guy is a good jew. I hope there was turd in the bowl when he threw that gay porno into it.

My personal preference is to wipe with the koran after a big feed at the all you can eat BBQ joint and the subsequent massive Al Bundy crap on the ferguson toilet.

My friend MuckDeFuslims is concerned about anal fissures resulting from the nazi-koran coming into contact with one's hiney. I hereby demand a 4-ply extra soft koran be produced immediately.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: DownwithIslam on July 29, 2007, 03:52:16 AM
I feel like urinating and defacating on a koran right now and then placing the video of the event on youtube.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 29, 2007, 04:05:43 AM
I feel like urinating and defacating on a koran right now and then placing the video of the event on youtube.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I'll find a link to a video of some good ol boys blowing a koran to bits with an M16.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 29, 2007, 04:56:45 AM
Here it is!

Kill the koran:
http://www.cair.com/video/kill_the_koran/

Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: kellymaureen on July 29, 2007, 05:04:18 AM
http://anarchangel.blogspot.com/2005/06/team-infidel.html

Team Infidel....doing alot of fun things with a koran:P

(little bit of swearing in the video where they are burning the koran, just a warning)
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 29, 2007, 05:29:45 AM
 :laugh: :laugh:

Classic. You could come up with no end of ideas.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Ehud on July 29, 2007, 06:45:06 AM
I still say that we have a Quran defacing contest here on JTF, where we would insult the Quran in the most extreme ways and post all of the videos on YouTube for the world to see.  Imagine how THAT would increase our popularity!
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 29, 2007, 06:46:38 AM
I still say that we have a Quran defacing contest here on JTF, where we would insult the Quran in the most extreme ways and post all of the videos on YouTube for the world to see.  Imagine how THAT would increase our popularity!

I thought of doing a send up of Myth Busters where we try all manner of stuff on the koran.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: kellymaureen on July 29, 2007, 06:50:57 AM
Oh that would be great!  Its shark week on discovery, coating the queerann in fish guts and seeing what a great white would do would be fun :P

Of course even sharks have their standards and wont eat just any old piece of trash floating around lol.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 29, 2007, 06:54:13 AM
Oh that would be great!  Its shark week on discovery, coating the queerann in fish guts and seeing what a great white would do would be fun :P

They hate pigs and pigs will eat anything. Why not rub meat and honey on one and video the pigs eating it. That is supposed to be the ultimate insult to muzzies.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: mord on July 29, 2007, 07:47:02 AM
What sort of name is that? Russian?
It appears to be
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: fjack on July 29, 2007, 08:53:51 AM
I use pages of the koran (uran) to clean my cat's kitty litter. It is the only good that this piece of filth is capable of doing. I urge all of you to purchase a copy of the uran and clean up your doggies's poop with it and leave in the public gargbage pail where all can see. Do you remember the episode on Sienfeld when the puerto rican flag diaper was burned. The outcry that came from the left was overwhelming. It is only legal for people to burn the US flag and only the US flag. What this student did was not so terrible. He should not have stuffed up the toilet just incase some human, not a muslim, needed to use it. He could have blown his nose in one of its pages, wiped up his table droppings or just left pages in the garbage where it belonged. The US, Israel and any western countries, should be cleansed of muzzies, they have no reason for being here, It is bad enough that we must suffer with brown and black bipeds, but the sand bipeds are by far the most dangerous and should be dealt with harshly and immediately.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 29, 2007, 08:57:24 AM
Ship them sand apes back!
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Dr. Dan on July 29, 2007, 08:58:07 AM
What?! he didn't flush it?  what kind of man is that?   ;D
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: pbc on July 29, 2007, 10:40:18 AM
Hey, at least he tried to clean the damn thing off (using the toilet), give the man a break!
Now seriously, I think pepto-bismolic feces look pretty good on turd, so on the (q)uran it will look magnificent.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: MassuhDGoodName on July 29, 2007, 11:07:04 AM
Screw the Muslims!
Screw their "Book of Terror"!

Time to TAKE BACK AMERICA and restore a real Constitutional Government.

Death to Political Correctness!

Anyone attempting to deprive Americans of their G-d Given Rights deserves nothing short of death.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: cjd on July 29, 2007, 11:16:20 AM
I'm very confused here. Isn't the toilet the correct place to store the Koran?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: cosmokramer on July 29, 2007, 11:25:30 AM
If a Muslim has a right to use a bible as toiler paper, why cant he throw a koran in a loo?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Shlomo on July 29, 2007, 11:33:24 AM
That is so disgusting. So it's ok to burn the American flag but you can't put a hate-filled, nazi koran in the toilet??
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: EyesOnly on July 29, 2007, 01:02:29 PM
Right...so you can blow your nose in an American Flag, and then set it on fire.
But you can't say the "n" word and you can't flush a  true piece of sh#t like the Quran down the toilet?

Now THAT's funny :laugh:!
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks on July 29, 2007, 01:26:39 PM
I wouldn't wipe my arse with the Koran because doing so would defile my excrement.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: jdl4ever on July 29, 2007, 01:27:16 PM
I wouldn't wipe my arse with the Koran because doing so would defile my excrement.

He hee heee.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Dexter on July 29, 2007, 01:31:36 PM
What sort of name is that? Russian?
Slavic name (East Europe) .

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The muslims burn People (by Suicide attacks), flags, bibls, books (for exemple, "The Satanic Verses") etc', but when a man using the Koran properly and how it need too be used it's a hate - crime ? ???
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Hail Columbia on July 29, 2007, 01:32:42 PM
What sort of name is that? Russian?

He's Ukrainian.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: kellymaureen on July 30, 2007, 09:14:44 AM
I was reading on www.littlegreenfootballs.com that the person involved emailed that website...here is a quote:

[First, Shmulevich was arrested and jailed for 24 hours. Second, he’s not facing misdemeanor charges—he’s being charged with two felonies, criminal mischief and aggravated harassment.

Felonies. For putting a book in a toilet.

Third, his income is on a borderline that disqualifies him for a public defender, so he stands to suffer incredible financial hardship as well.

Fourth, his name and photograph were published in several newspapers in New York, and he and his mother were ambushed outside the court by reporters. In a case like this, clearly with the potential to enrage radical Muslims, this is so irresponsible of the media that it borders on criminal
]


FELONIES >:( are they kidding!!!!  Who exactly was he harassing??  Criminal mischief??  All this because the muzzie student union has their panties in a bunch..and our law enforcement starts breaking laws to please them!!  This is more incredible then I first thought.  I certainly hope that sanity prevails and this is tossed out just like the case in California where students were trampling on the hizbolla flag and the MSU wanted them charged with a hate crime because the word 'allah' appears in arabic on the flag, it was tossed out as they are protected under freedom of speech.... I had no idea we have a state religion now where "insulting" it would result in criminal charges and I also had no idea that the US had turned into iran overnight...I'll be watching for the vice and virtue police checking to see if my skirt is too short ;)
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 30, 2007, 09:19:29 AM
Kellymaureen:"...I'll be watching for the vice and virtue police checking to see if my skirt is too short"


Purely for academic interest; if you'd care to post a pic, the boys and I at JTF would be happy to offer an opinion. :P
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: mord on July 30, 2007, 09:23:11 AM
Kellymaureen:"...I'll be watching for the vice and virtue police checking to see if my skirt is too short"


Purely for academic interest; if you'd care to post a pic, the boys and I at JTF would be happy to offer an opinion. :P
:o :o :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: kellymaureen on July 30, 2007, 09:26:29 AM
Lol maybe the vice and virtue force is hiring:P

Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 30, 2007, 09:28:59 AM
Seriously, you're right.

If this stupid situation is allowed to stand, they'll be indroucing dress codes during muslim holidays. Welcome to dhimmitude! >:( >:(
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Mstislav on July 30, 2007, 11:01:18 AM
Hate crimes and felonies? First of all, a CRIME has to be committed for the person in question to be tried for anything. Since when is it illegal to put a book (presuming you own it) in the toilet?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Mstislav on July 30, 2007, 11:03:56 AM
I still say that we have a Quran defacing contest here on JTF, where we would insult the Quran in the most extreme ways and post all of the videos on YouTube for the world to see.  Imagine how THAT would increase our popularity!

Make sure it is an arabic koran as muslims regard non arabic korans as mere translations and interpretations of the real thing. That would really hit a nerve for them,
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Mstislav on July 30, 2007, 11:08:00 AM
Quote
The US, Israel and any western countries, should be cleansed of muzzies, they have no reason for being here, It is bad enough that we must suffer with brown and black bipeds, but the sand bipeds are by far the most dangerous and should be dealt with harshly and immediately.

Muzzies only emmigrate to non muslim countries for the purpose of islamizing them. 'brown & black bipeds'? I can understand your sentiments about the blacks but, browns?

Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 30, 2007, 11:12:47 AM
Quote
The US, Israel and any western countries, should be cleansed of muzzies, they have no reason for being here, It is bad enough that we must suffer with brown and black bipeds, but the sand bipeds are by far the most dangerous and should be dealt with harshly and immediately.

Muzzies only emmigrate to non muslim countries for the purpose of islamizing them. 'brown & black bipeds'? I can understand your sentiments about the blacks but, browns?



By 'browns' he means sp*cks.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Hail Columbia on July 30, 2007, 11:39:35 AM
Quote
The US, Israel and any western countries, should be cleansed of muzzies, they have no reason for being here, It is bad enough that we must suffer with brown and black bipeds, but the sand bipeds are by far the most dangerous and should be dealt with harshly and immediately.

Muzzies only emmigrate to non muslim countries for the purpose of islamizing them. 'brown & black bipeds'? I can understand your sentiments about the blacks but, browns?



By 'browns' he means sp*cks.

I prefer that you use the term "wetback".
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Malik on July 30, 2007, 03:59:49 PM
The Quran contains the names of Prophets, who YOU believe in and you'd wipe your ass with it?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 30, 2007, 04:07:28 PM
The Quran contains the names of Prophets, who YOU believe in and you'd wipe your ass with it?
Yeah. We just pick the right pages.

PS: The false prophet mo' is a child molesting, devil worshiping rapist.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Malik on July 30, 2007, 04:11:32 PM
The Quran contains the names of Prophets, who YOU believe in and you'd wipe your ass with it?
Yeah. We just pick the right pages.

PS: The false prophet mo' is a child molesting, devil worshiping rapist.

You can't pick the right pages because the ayahs don't come packaged in certain sections. The book is still the book containing the stories of the Prophets.

He isn't devil worshipping or a molester.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 30, 2007, 04:13:19 PM
The Quran contains the names of Prophets, who YOU believe in and you'd wipe your ass with it?
Yeah. We just pick the right pages.

PS: The false prophet mo' is a child molesting, devil worshiping rapist.

You can't pick the right pages because the ayahs don't come packaged in certain sections. The book is still the book containing the stories of the Prophets.

He isn't devil worshipping or a molester.
Yes he is.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Malik on July 30, 2007, 04:23:17 PM
The Quran contains the names of Prophets, who YOU believe in and you'd wipe your ass with it?
Yeah. We just pick the right pages.

PS: The false prophet mo' is a child molesting, devil worshiping rapist.

You can't pick the right pages because the ayahs don't come packaged in certain sections. The book is still the book containing the stories of the Prophets.

He isn't devil worshipping or a molester.
Yes he is.

Oh of course, because you can quote false copy and pasted hadiths and stories that are complete lies because they're what you WANT to hear. You don't want to read things, or search yourself, you just want to hear the evil, because it lets you feel good about yourself and excuse all forms of hate.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 30, 2007, 04:29:28 PM
The Quran contains the names of Prophets, who YOU believe in and you'd wipe your ass with it?
Yeah. We just pick the right pages.

PS: The false prophet mo' is a child molesting, devil worshiping rapist.

You can't pick the right pages because the ayahs don't come packaged in certain sections. The book is still the book containing the stories of the Prophets.

He isn't devil worshipping or a molester.
Yes he is.

Oh of course, because you can quote false copy and pasted hadiths and stories that are complete lies because they're what you WANT to hear. You don't want to read things, or search yourself, you just want to hear the evil, because it lets you feel good about yourself and excuse all forms of hate.
No.

It's because he humped a 9 year old.

Also because he was an evil, theiving, raping, terrorist war lord who conned an ignorant bunch of equally vile stinking sand apes into following him.

As our leader would say...." What a farshtunken people!"
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Malik on July 30, 2007, 04:42:05 PM
The Quran contains the names of Prophets, who YOU believe in and you'd wipe your ass with it?
Yeah. We just pick the right pages.

PS: The false prophet mo' is a child molesting, devil worshiping rapist.

You can't pick the right pages because the ayahs don't come packaged in certain sections. The book is still the book containing the stories of the Prophets.

He isn't devil worshipping or a molester.
Yes he is.

Oh of course, because you can quote false copy and pasted hadiths and stories that are complete lies because they're what you WANT to hear. You don't want to read things, or search yourself, you just want to hear the evil, because it lets you feel good about yourself and excuse all forms of hate.
No.

It's because he humped a 9 year old.

Also because he was an evil, theiving, raping, terrorist war lord who conned an ignorant bunch of equally vile stinking sand apes into following him.

As our leader would say...." What a farshtunken people!"

Yes, the ayesha arguement.....there is a lot of controversy of these ahadith especially the fact that they weren't reported by a couple of people just one man on the authority of his father alone, which does not certify them.

According to a number of narratives, Ayesha (ra) accompanied the Muslims in the battle of Badr and Uhud. Furthermore, it is also reported in books of hadith and history that no one under the age of 15 years was allowed to take part in the battle of Uhud. All the boys below 15 years of age were sent back. Ayesha's (ra) participation in the battle of Badr and Uhud clearly indicate that she was not nine or ten years old at that time. After all, women used to accompany men to the battle fields to help them, not to be a burden on them.

According to almost all the historians Asma (ra), the elder sister of Ayesha (ra) was ten years older than Ayesha (ra). It is reported in Taqri'bu'l-tehzi'b as well as Al-bidayah wa'l-nihayah that Asma (ra) died in 73 hijrah when she was 100 years old. Now, obviously if Asma (ra) was 100 years old in 73 hijrah she should have been 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah. If Asma (ra) was 27 or 28 years old at the time of hijrah, Ayesha (ra) should have been 17 or 18 years old at that time. Thus, Ayesha (ra), if she got married in 1 AH (after hijrah) or 2 AH, was between 18 to 20 years old at the time of her marriage.

Tabari in his treatise on Islamic history, while mentioning Abu Bakr (ra) reports that Abu Bakr had four children and all four were born during the Jahiliyyah -- the pre Islamic period. Obviously, if Ayesha (ra) was born in the period of jahiliyyah, she could not have been less than 14 years in 1 AH -- the time she most likely got married.

According to Ibn Hisham, the historian, Ayesha (ra) accepted Islam quite some time before Umar ibn Khattab (ra). This shows that Ayesha (ra) accepted Islam during the first year of Islam. While, if the narrative of Ayesha's (ra) marriage at seven years of age is held to be true, Ayesha (ra) should not have been born during the first year of Islam.


This all comes from other Hadiths which on the other hand HAVE been repeated many times and fully authorised. Calculate it. I'll get you more if you want.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 30, 2007, 04:45:23 PM
More taqqiya.

Now you're contradicting every other muslim beast on the planet.

Mohammerhead was a rapist.

When did you last shag your children, malik?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Malik on July 30, 2007, 05:04:03 PM
More taqqiya.

Now you're contradicting every other muslim beast on the planet.

Mohammerhead was a rapist.

When did you last shag your children, malik?

You can't profer an arguement about what i posted can you. Do some research from the teachings of scholars and you'll see, but you won't even bother will you, because you just accept whatever suits you.

I'm not contradicting every other muslim just the wrong arguements.

He didn't rape anyone either and you like to say i'm spreading taqiyya  as a cop-out, when actually i was trying to refute an argument and what I believe to be a false statement, along with most other muslims. I don't do taqiyya, it is being used in the wrong context here, some people have fallen victim to confusing al-Taqiyya with hypocrisy, when In fact they (al-Taqiyya and Hypocrisy) are two opposite extremes.  al-Taqiyya is concealing faith and displaying nonbelief; while Hypocrisy is the concealment of unbelief and the display of belief.  They are TOTAL
opposites in function, form, and meaning.

I don't have any children Newman.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 30, 2007, 05:08:14 PM
Quote:"I don't have any children Newman."

Lucky for them.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Malik on July 30, 2007, 05:12:12 PM
Quote:"I don't have any children Newman."

Lucky for them.

Lucky for you, because they'd know the truth and you'd have more then one person refuting your arguements, which you can't seem to handle except by repeating the same statements without a basis or evidential fact to back up.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 30, 2007, 05:20:58 PM
Quote:"I don't have any children Newman."

Lucky for them.

Lucky for you, because they'd know the truth and you'd have more then one person refuting your arguements, which you can't seem to handle except by repeating the same statements without a basis or evidential fact to back up.

There is no need to when arguing with maniacs. I wouldn't bother to present statistics to a loony who said the earth was flat (like a muslim).

Look around you. Look at the news. Read the paper. Islam is responsible for 99% of the worlds suffering today. Like a cancer, it must be cut out.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Malik on July 30, 2007, 05:24:55 PM
Quote:"I don't have any children Newman."

Lucky for them.

Lucky for you, because they'd know the truth and you'd have more then one person refuting your arguements, which you can't seem to handle except by repeating the same statements without a basis or evidential fact to back up.

There is no need to when arguing with maniacs. I wouldn't bother to present statistics to a loony who said the earth was flat (like a muslim).

Look around you. Look at the news. Read the paper. Islam is responsible for 99% of the worlds suffering today. Like a cancer, it must be cut out.
I'm not a maniac nor a loony.
Actually its the Western elitists, weapons manufacturers and harsh, crazy leaders of this world who cause disruption, conflict and suffering. The highest and largest amount of suffering is that of poverty, starvation and famine, which affects Africa and parts of India and China the most. I wonder which countries have ruled these places into prison like debts and allowed leaders to steal civilian entitled money?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 30, 2007, 05:27:14 PM
Terrorism, mass murder and slavery is caused overwhelmingly by pigslam. Don't give me all that foreign debt crap.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: fjack on July 30, 2007, 06:14:03 PM
Maliki, what are you doing in my country? Get out now. Take your filthy uran and your sewer mosques and go back to the dung heap from whence you were hatched. You are not welcomed! You belong to a gutter cult that has no place in western civilization. As far as I am concerned you can kill each other, rape each other and do what ever the child molester, insane, madman lunatic commands you to do. I am sick and tired of you sand biped primitivess trying to convince us that the murderous cult you belong to is a 'religion of peace'. I find your kind vile. When I see you poluteing the subways and the buses I want to puke. Your kind should be rounded up and shipped out immediately. You should be sent to africa where you will be eaten by your starving blace burthas and sistas. I loathe you and everything you stand for.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Shlomo on July 30, 2007, 07:47:53 PM
Malik, what is your take on Jews in Israel?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Malik on July 31, 2007, 04:58:30 AM
Maliki, what are you doing in my country? Get out now. Take your filthy uran and your sewer mosques and go back to the dung heap from whence you were hatched. You are not welcomed! You belong to a gutter cult that has no place in western civilization. As far as I am concerned you can kill each other, rape each other and do what ever the child molester, insane, madman lunatic commands you to do. I am sick and tired of you sand biped primitivess trying to convince us that the murderous cult you belong to is a 'religion of peace'. I find your kind vile. When I see you poluteing the subways and the buses I want to puke. Your kind should be rounded up and shipped out immediately. You should be sent to africa where you will be eaten by your starving blace burthas and sistas. I loathe you and everything you stand for.

Subways.....I guess i'm not in your country then, I'm not American.

Its nice to see your approach to something like this.

Loathe me all you want,  i don't mind you or your "KIND".

Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Malik on July 31, 2007, 05:01:19 AM
Malik, what is your take on Jews in Israel?

I don't agree with the way the Israeli goverment works in trying to acheive resolutions or gain land but I think that they should have their own independent state and be left at peace and leave that at that.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 31, 2007, 05:13:21 AM
Malik, what is your take on Jews in Israel?

I don't agree with the way the Israeli goverment works in trying to acheive resolutions or gain land but I think that they should have their own independent state and be left at peace and leave that at that.

You can't 'gain' land that is already yours. Jews lived in and had sovereignty over Eretz Yisrael thousands of years before stinking arabs ever left the arabian peninsular. There are NO such thing as [email protected] Arabs have NO claim to a single inch of Israel.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Malik on July 31, 2007, 05:18:04 AM
Malik, what is your take on Jews in Israel?

I don't agree with the way the Israeli goverment works in trying to acheive resolutions or gain land but I think that they should have their own independent state and be left at peace and leave that at that.

You can't 'gain' land that is already yours. Jews lived in and had sovereignty over Eretz Yisrael thousands of years before stinking arabs ever left the arabian peninsular. There are NO such thing as [email protected] Arabs have NO claim to a single inch of Israel.

Yes they may have lived there but they never had their own state, it was land shared by both people. The British occupied a lot of land there before the Balfour declaration, as time moves on so does the people in control.

There may have been a huge population of Jews thousands of years ago but this figure died down until there weren't so many.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 31, 2007, 05:26:10 AM
Malik, what is your take on Jews in Israel?

I don't agree with the way the Israeli goverment works in trying to acheive resolutions or gain land but I think that they should have their own independent state and be left at peace and leave that at that.

You can't 'gain' land that is already yours. Jews lived in and had sovereignty over Eretz Yisrael thousands of years before stinking arabs ever left the arabian peninsular. There are NO such thing as [email protected] Arabs have NO claim to a single inch of Israel.

Yes they may have lived there but they never had their own state, it was land shared by both people. The British occupied a lot of land there before the Balfour declaration, as time moves on so does the people in control.

There may have been a huge population of Jews thousands of years ago but this figure died down until there weren't so many.

Garbage!

Israel was a sovereign state under David. Judea was a sovereign state later on. There were NEVER arabs until after the 7th century CE. The small numbers of phillistines, caananites and samarians were NOT arabs and NOT muslims. Israel was, is and always will be JEWISH land. Foreign occupiers don't change that G_d given law. If you have homeless people squat in your home, you don't lose ownership.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Malik on July 31, 2007, 05:35:06 AM
Most Jews in Palestine belonged to old Yishuv, or community, that had settled there more for religious than for political reasons. There was little of any conflict between them and the Arab population. Tension began after first Zionist settlers arrived in the 1880’s.

Initially Jews were treated, under Islam in the Arab World, better than any other place they had lived in the whole world at the time. They were treated like any other ethnic groups, e.g. Christians, with full citizenship that included freedom and rights like the rest of the citizens. They were allowed to live and worship freely in Jerusalem, where they were barred entrance by ancient Romans and European Christian Crusaders. When European Jews faced persecution since the start of Crusaders campaigns, they did not find any safe haven for themselves except in Islamic and Arab countries in North Africa and in the Middle East. Many of those Jews fought along side Muslim and Christian Arabs against the Crusaders, who called for the slaughter of every Jew for crucifying Jesus.

Even during the Middle Ages, North Africa and the Arab Middle East became places of refuge and a haven for the persecuted Jews of Spain and elsewhere… In the Holy Land they lived together in harmony, a harmony only disrupted when the Zionists began to claim that Palestine was the ‘rightful’ possession of the ‘Jewish people’ to the exclusion of its Moslem and Christian inhabitants.



Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: newman on July 31, 2007, 05:43:25 AM
Most Jews in Eretz Yisrael belonged to old Yishuv, or community, that had settled there more for religious than for political reasons. There was little of any conflict between them and the Arab population. Tension began after first Zionist settlers arrived in the 1880’s.

Initially Jews were treated, under Islam in the Arab World, better than any other place they had lived in the whole world at the time. They were treated like any other ethnic groups, e.g. Christians, with full citizenship that included freedom and rights like the rest of the citizens. They were allowed to live and worship freely in Jerusalem, where they were barred entrance by ancient Romans and European Christian Crusaders. When European Jews faced persecution since the start of Crusaders campaigns, they did not find any safe haven for themselves except in Islamic and Arab countries in North Africa and in the Middle East. Many of those Jews fought along side Muslim and Christian Arabs against the Crusaders, who called for the slaughter of every Jew for crucifying Jesus.

Even during the Middle Ages, North Africa and the Arab Middle East became places of refuge and a haven for the persecuted Jews of Spain and elsewhere… In the Holy Land they lived together in harmony, a harmony only disrupted when the Zionists began to claim that Eretz Yisrael was the ‘rightful’ possession of the ‘Jewish people’ to the exclusion of its Moslem and Christian inhabitants.





You can't think beyond 1300 years ago. Go back 3,500 years. Jews had sovereignty over that land and there were ZERO, ZILCH, BUGGER ALL arabs.

As for arab treatment of Jews, don't try your taqqiya here. Non-muslims lived as dhimmis.....second class citizens.

Yes, Jews were treated horribly by christians in days past. Christianity was once cruel and intollerant like islam is today. Christianity underwent reformation and enlightenment which changed it's coarse and the living standards of it's followers. If islam doesn't undergo the same changes, it's followers will remain in the dark ages as they are now.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: RationalThought110 on August 02, 2007, 05:26:03 AM
Being Anti-America is really patriotic according to Hillary.

Being Anti-Islam is anti-Peace, anti-Open Minded.



Hillary supports the burning of American flags?
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: mosquewatch on August 05, 2007, 10:49:25 PM
When muslims fly planes into buildings, put bomb belts on fellow muslims and child muslims with the intent on killing any one in their path. When they practice slavery in Africa, proudly announce that the "new Holocaust" is on the way, and "Another 9-11" is on the way". I could care less about burning, shooting a koran. As a matter of fact, I'd like to see the day when America starts burning the saudi flag, and effigies of arab muslim terrorists.

I would not put a koran in the toilet, the toilet bowl serves a purpose.
Title: Re: Brooklyn, NY - Man Accused of Throwing Quran in Toilet
Post by: Shlomo on August 06, 2007, 01:54:11 AM
Well said!