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O. J. Simpson
O.J. Simpson with his daughter in 1986
Position(s):
Running back    Jersey #(s):
32
Born: July 9, 1947 (1947-07-09) (age 60)
Flag of California San Francisco, California
Career Information
Year(s): 1969-1979
NFL Draft: 1969 / Round: 1 / Pick: 1
College: Southern California
Professional Teams

    * Buffalo Bills (1969-1977)
    * San Francisco 49ers (1978-1979)

Career Stats
Rushing Yards        11,236
Average        4.7
Touchdowns        61
Stats at NFL.com
Career Highlights and Awards

    * Heisman Trophy (1968)
    * Maxwell Award (1968)
    * Walter Camp Award (1967, 1968)
    * Pro Bowl (x6)
    * Pro Bowl MVP (1973)
    * NFL MVP (1973)
    * UPI AFL-AFC Player of the Year
      (1972, 1973, 1975)
    * AP Man Athlete of the Year (1973)

Pro Football Hall of Fame
College Hall of Fame

Orenthal James "O. J." Simpson (born July 9, 1947) (also known by his nickname, The Juice) is a retired American football player who achieved stardom as a running back at the collegiate and professional levels, and was the first NFL player to rush for more than 2,000 yards in a season. He later worked as an actor, spokesperson and broadcaster.

Besides his Hall of Fame career, Simpson is infamous for having been tried for the murder of ex-wife Nicole Brown Simpson and her friend Ronald Goldman in 1994. He was acquitted in criminal court in 1995 after a lengthy, highly publicized trial (see O. J. Simpson murder case). In 1997, Simpson was found liable for their deaths in civil court, but to date has paid little of the $33.5 million judgment.[1] He gained further notoriety in late 2006 when he wrote a book titled If I Did It. The book, which purports to be a first-person fictional account of the murder had he actually committed it, was withdrawn by the publisher just before its release. The book was later released by the Goldman family and the title of the book was expanded to If I Did It: Confessions of the Killer).

In September 2007 Simpson faced more legal troubles, as he was arrested[2] and subsequently charged with numerous felonies including but not limited to robbery with a deadly weapon, burglary with a firearm, assault with a deadly weapon, first degree kidnapping with use of a deadly weapon (which carries possible life sentence), coercion with use of a deadly weapon, conspiracy to commit robbery, conspiracy to commit kidnapping, and conspiracy to commit a crime.[3]
Contents
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    * 1 Biography
          o 1.1 Early life
                + 1.1.1 High School
                + 1.1.2 University of Southern California
          o 1.2 NFL
          o 1.3 Family life
          o 1.4 Acting
          o 1.5 Politics
    * 2 Legal problems
          o 2.1 Murder case
                + 2.1.1 Criminal trial
                + 2.1.2 Civil trial
                + 2.1.3 Related litigation
          o 2.2 Overdue Income Taxes
          o 2.3 DirecTV satellite piracy case
          o 2.4 Las Vegas Robbery
    * 3 Filmography
    * 4 See also
    * 5 Notes and references
    * 6 External links
          o 6.1 Civil and criminal trials

Biography

Early life

Simpson was born in San Francisco, California, to Eunice Durden (October 23, 1921–November 9, 2001) and James "Jimmy" Lee Simpson (January 28, 1920–June 9, 1986); his maternal grandparents were from Louisiana.[4] His aunt gave him the name Orenthal, which supposedly was the name of a French actor she liked.[5] His parents were separated in 1952. Simpson has one brother: Melvin Leon "Truman" Simpson, and two sisters: Shirley Simpson-Baker and Carmelita Simpson-Durio. In his childhood, Simpson endured a great deal of adversity.[citation needed]

High School

At Galileo High School in San Francisco, Simpson played for the school football team, the Galileo Lions. From 1965 to 1966, Simpson was a student at City College of San Francisco, a member of the California Community Colleges system. He played both offense (running back) and defense (defensive back), and was named to the Junior College All American team as a running back.

University of Southern California

Simpson earned an athletic scholarship to the University of Southern California where he played running back for the University of Southern California in 1967 and 1968. Simpson led the nation in rushing in 1967 when he ran for 1,451 yards and scored 11 touchdowns. He was a Heisman Trophy candidate and a star in the 1967 USC vs. UCLA football game. His 64 yard touchdown run in the 4th quarter tied the game, with the PAT the margin of victory. This was the biggest play in what is regarded as one of the greatest football games of the 20th century.[6] Another dramatic touchdown in the same game is the subject of the Arnold Friberg oil painting, O.J. Simpson Breaks for Daylight.

In 1968, he rushed for 1,709 yards and 22 touchdowns, earning the Heisman Trophy, the Maxwell Award, and the Walter Camp Award that year. He still holds the record for the Heisman's largest margin of victory, defeating the runner-up by 1,750 points. Simpson also won the Walter Camp Award in 1967 and was a two-time consensus All-American. [7] He also ran in the USC sprint relay quartet that broke the world record at the NCAA track championships in Provo, Utah in June 1967.[8]

NFL

There was a regular-season game nicknamed for Simpson; it was the "O.J. Bowl", between the Philadelphia Eagles and the Pittsburgh Steelers, because it was thought the loser would get the first crack at drafting him. The Eagles won that game 12-0 (on 4 field goals by Sam Baker); but it turned out that neither of those teams drafted him.

Simpson was drafted by the AFL's Buffalo Bills, who got first pick in the 1969 draft after finishing 1-12-1 in 1968. Early in his NFL career, Simpson struggled on poor Buffalo teams, averaging only 622 yards per season for his first three.

He first rushed for more than 1,000 yards in 1972, gaining a total of 1,251. In 1973, Simpson rushed for a then-record 2,003 yards, becoming the first player ever to pass the 2,000-yard mark, and scored 12 touchdowns. Simpson gained more than 1,000 rushing yards for each of his next three seasons.

Simpson's 1977 season in Buffalo was cut short by injury. Before the 1978 season, Simpson signed with the San Francisco 49ers, where he played two unremarkable seasons.

Simpson gained 11,236 rushing yards, placing him 14th on the NFL's all-time rushing list. He was named NFL Player of the Year in 1972, 1973, and played in six Pro Bowls. Simpson was inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame in 1985, his first year of eligibility.

Family life

On June 24, 1967 Simpson married Marguerite L. Whitley. Together they had three children: Arnelle L. Simpson (born December 4, 1968), Jason L. Simpson (born April 21, 1970) and Aaren Lashone Simpson (born September 24, 1977). In 1979, Aaren drowned in the family's swimming pool a month before her second birthday. That same year Simpson and Marguerite were divorced.

On February 2, 1985, Simpson married Nicole Brown. They had two children, Sydney Brooke Simpson (born October 17, 1985) and Justin Ryan Simpson (born August 6, 1988), and were divorced in 1992. After the murders of Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman on June 12, 1994, he was acquitted of all criminal charges in a now infamous court case, but was found liable for the wrongful deaths of Nicole Brown and Ronald Goldman in a civil case in 1997.

Acting

Even before his retirement from football and in the NFL, Simpson went on to a successful film career with parts in films such as the television mini-series Roots, and the dramatic motion pictures The Cassandra Crossing, Capricorn One, The Klansman, The Towering Inferno, and the comedic Back to the Beach and The Naked Gun trilogy. In 1979, he started his own film production company Orenthal Productions, which dealt mostly in made-for-TV fare such as the family-oriented Goldie and the Boxer films with Melissa Michaelsen and Cocaine and Blue Eyes, the pilot for a proposed detective series on NBC. Simpson was considered for the lead role in The Terminator, before it was decided audiences might not accept him as a relentless villain, due to his "nice guy" image.[citation needed]

Simpson's amiable persona and natural charisma landed him numerous endorsement deals. He was a spokesman for the Hertz rental car company. He would often be shown running through airports, as if to suggest he was back on the football field. Simpson was also a longtime spokesman for Pioneer Chicken and owned two franchises, one of which was destroyed during the LA riots, as well as Honeybaked Hams, the pX Corporation, the Calistoga Water Company's line of Napa Naturals soft drinks, and he appeared in comic book ads for Dingo shoes.

Besides his acting career, Simpson had stints as a commentator for Monday Night Football and The NFL on NBC. He also hosted an episode of Saturday Night Live, but he was the only host not invited to attend the program's 25th anniversary celebration special in 1999.

Politics

A Democrat and personal friend of former president Bill Clinton, Simpsons revealed in an August 2007 interview that he is supporting Senator Hillary Clinton for President of the United States in 2008.[9]

Legal problems

Murder case

Criminal trial

    Main article: O. J. Simpson murder case

In 1989, Simpson pleaded no contest to a domestic violence charge and was separated from Nicole Brown, to whom he was paying child support. On June 12, 1994 Nicole and her friend Ronald Goldman were found dead outside Brown's condominium. Simpson was soon charged with their murders. After failing to turn himself in, he became the object of a low-speed pursuit. The pursuit, arrest and trial were among the most widely publicized in American history. The trial, often characterized as being "the trial of the century", culminated on October 3, 1995 in a verdict of not guilty for the two murders. The verdict was seen live on TV by more than half of the U.S. population, making it one of the most watched events in American TV history. Immediate reaction to the verdict was noted for its division along racial lines.

Civil trial

On February 5, 1997 a civil jury in Santa Monica, California found Simpson liable for the wrongful death of Ronald Goldman, battery against Ronald Goldman, and battery against Nicole Brown. The attorney for plaintiff Fred Goldman (father of Ronald Goldman) was Daniel Petrocelli. Simpson was ordered to pay $33,500,000 in damages. However, California law protects pensions from being used to satisfy judgments, so Simpson was able to continue much of his lifestyle based on his NFL pension. In February 1999 an auction of Simpson's Heisman Trophy and other belongings netted almost $500,000. The money went to the Goldman family.[1] His payment for appearing in the video game All Pro Football 2K8 was also seized. A 2000 Rolling Stone article reported that Simpson also still makes a significant income by signing autographs. He subsequently moved from California to Miami, Florida. In Florida, a person's residence cannot be seized to collect a debt under most circumstances. The Goldman family also tried to collect Simpson's NFL pension of $22,000 a month but also failed to collect any money. [10]

Related litigation

The civil and criminal trials of Simpson were not the only important legal cases that were spawned by the deaths of Nicole Brown Simpson and Ronald Goldman on June 12, 1994.

    * On September 5, 2006, Ron Goldman's father took Simpson back to court to obtain control over his "right to publicity" for purposes of satisfying the judgment in the civil court case.[1] On January 4, 2007 a federal judge issued a restraining order prohibiting Simpson from spending any advance he may have received on a canceled TV and book deal. The matter was dismissed before trial for lack of jurisdiction.[1] On January 19, 2007 a California state judge issued an additional restraining order, ordering Simpson to restrict his spending to "ordinary and necessary living expenses".[1]
    * On March 13, 2007 a judge prevented Simpson from receiving any further compensation from a canceled book deal and TV interview. He ordered the bundled book rights to be auctioned.[11]

    * In August 2007, a Florida bankruptcy court awarded the rights to the book to the Goldman family to partially satisfy an unpaid civil judgment. The title of the book was expanded to If I Did It: Confessions of the Killer, and comments were added to the original manuscript by the Goldman family, Pablo Fenjves, and prominent investigative journalist Dominick Dunne.[12]

Overdue Income Taxes

Simpson owes the State of California $1,435,484.17 in past due taxes. A tax lien was filed in his case on Sept. 1, 1999.[13]

DirecTV satellite piracy case

On March 8, 2004, Satellite television network DirecTV Inc. accused Simpson in a Miami federal court of using illegal electronic devices to pirate its broadcast signals. The El Segundo, California-based company later won a US$25,000 judgment, and Simpson was ordered to pay US$33,678 in attorneys' fees and costs.[14][15]

Las Vegas Robbery
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On September 14, 2007, Simpson was questioned[16] with regard to missing memorabilia at Palace Station Casino. He admitted taking the items, which he said had been stolen from him, but denied breaking into a room, as well as the allegation that he or people with him carried weapons.[17][18] However, investigators named him a suspect at first and questioned him.[19]

On September 15, one of the alleged accomplices, Walter Alexander, was arrested and charged with two counts of robbery with a deadly weapon, one count of conspiracy to commit robbery with a deadly weapon, two counts of assault with a deadly weapon and one count of burglary with a deadly weapon. Alexander was on his way to McCarran International Airport when he was approached by the police. Earlier in the day, police executed a search warrant at the home of one of the men and recovered two handguns:[20] a .22 caliber Beretta and a .45 caliber Ruger.

On September 16, Las Vegas police arrested Simpson[21], and initially held him without bail.[22] Simpson was charged with robbery using a deadly weapon as well as conspiracy to commit robbery, burglary with a deadly weapon, two counts of assault with a deadly weapon and coercion.[23] Simpson, was listed as inmate number 2648927, and scheduled to appear before a court on September 20, 2007. If convicted of all charges, he could face more than 60 years imprisonment.[22]

On September 18, the Clark County, Nevada District Attorney charged[24] Simpson, Alexander, Clarence Stewart, and Michael McClinton with multiple felony charges, including criminal conspiracy, kidnapping, assault, robbery, and using a deadly weapon.

On September 19, 2007, Simpson, represented by attorneys from Florida and Nevada, was granted a bail of US$125,000. Justice of the Peace judge Joe Bonaventure Jr. who presided over the hearing, stated the Simpson is not allowed to have any contact with any of the co-defendants and that Simpson must surrender his passport. Simpson did not enter a plea.[25][26]

By October 15, 2007, co-defendants Walter Alexander and Charles H. Cashmorein agreed to plead guilty to reduced charges and testify against Simpson and three other co-defendants, including testifying that guns were used in the alleged robbery.[27]

Filmography

    * Medical Center (TV series) episode The Last 10 Yards (1969)
    * Cade's County (TV series) episode Blackout (1972)
    * Why (1973)
    * Here's Lucy (TV series) episode The Big Game (1973)
    * The Klansman (1974)
    * O.J. Simpson: Juice on the Loose (made-for-TV) (1974)
    * The Towering Inferno (1974)
    * The Cassandra Crossing (1976)
    * Killer Force aka The Diamond Mercenaries (1976)
    * A Killing Affair aka Behind the Badge (made-for-TV) (1977)
    * Roots (TV miniseries) (1977)
    * Capricorn One (1978)
    * Firepower (1979)
    * Goldie and the Boxer (made-for-TV) (1979)
    * Detour to Terror (made-for-TV) (1980)
    * Goldie and the Boxer Go to Hollywood (made-for-TV) (1981)
    * Cocaine and Blue Eyes (made-for-TV) (1983)
    * Hambone and Hillie (1984)
    * 1st & Ten (TV series) (1985-1991)
    * Back to the Beach (1987)
    * Student Exchange (made-for-TV) (1987)
    * The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad! (1988)
    * In the Heat of the Night (TV series) episode Walkout (1989)
    * The Naked Gun 2½: The Smell of Fear (1991)
    * CIA Code Name: Alexa (1993)
    * No Place to Hide (1993)
    * Frogmen (unaired TV pilot) (1994)
    * Naked Gun 33⅓: The Final Insult (1994)
    * Juiced with O.J. Simpson[28] (TV pay-per-view) (2006)


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Re: Should O. J. Simpson be executed?
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2007, 03:17:41 AM »
No, he was found not Guilty, and that remains.

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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2007, 03:39:14 AM »
What do you think I would say?  ;) ;D

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Re: Should O. J. Simpson be executed?
« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2007, 03:43:00 AM »
Well, you'll just have to guess as to exactly what I think should be the fate of Orangutan James Simian.  ;)

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Re: Should O. J. Simpson be executed?
« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2007, 04:20:08 AM »
Of course. He's a murderer. Anybody with any form of common sense knows he is a murder.

OJ had some skillful lawyers who managed to get him off the hook through various tricks and technecalities. But OJ's lawyers aren't as skilled this time around.

To this day only the blacks with say he's innocent. No black man is willing to admit that OJ is a murder, because according to blacks, no black could ever do anything bad, despite, the fact that their people posesses the highest murder rate in the US, even though they are a minority!

There's even a bunch of self-hating whites who say he's innocent, feeling that OJ is a nice black man, who couldn't possibly do anything bad. Why coudln't he? Half the NFL today has done something terrible whether it be rape or taking drugs.

He's guilty, and those who think otherwise need to wise up.

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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2007, 04:22:58 AM »
Very long time ago.
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2007, 06:41:29 AM »
OJ had some skillful lawyers who managed to get him off the hook through various tricks and technecalities. But OJ's lawyers aren't as skilled this time around.

To this day only the blacks with say he's innocent. No black man is willing to admit that OJ is a murder, because according to blacks, no black could ever do anything bad, despite, the fact that their people posesses the highest murder rate in the US, even though they are a minority!


His lawyers were the best in the world, but don't forget, the prosecution’s main witness was an open racist, who said we should kill the blacks, etc... His testimony cannot be accepted. There is also proof that evidence was planted. I don't know if OJ killed anyone, and neither do you. There was definitely not enough proof to convict him.

Every day black juries convict black people. This is an erroneous claim based on no facts at all, that blacks don’t convict blacks. Perhaps had the police not kept a racist officer, and had not planted evidence OJ would've been convicted.

You can’t execute people once they are found not guilty.

And especially in Judaism, we need 2 adult witnesses before we convict someone of murder, and that’s only with a Sanhedrin, which we don’t have today. If  according Judaism, and according to American law we aren’t allowed to execute him, why would we even raise such a question?

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Re: Should O. J. Simpson be executed?
« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2007, 07:23:17 AM »
True.  But I still wish we could juice the "Juice."
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Re: Should O. J. Simpson be executed?
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2007, 08:06:46 AM »
I think someone should kill him. When he was acquitted, I screamed out, "Someone's going to kill him!" I sometimes think that if I ever get a terminal illness how much I'd be tempted to make the trip out to CA and shoot his juicy murderous donkey!


What did OJ say when the gloves didn't fit?
"Hey! Maybe I didn't do it!"


What did OJ say when he got acquitted?
"Can I get my gloves back now?"


What did OJ say when he was found liable in the civil trial?
"I can't understand why they found me libel. I never badmouthed them, I just killed em."  (That's an original one)


What were the last words of Ronald Goldman?
"Say, aren't you OJ Simpson?"


And my very favorite one of all is where Chris Rock explains how the OJ case wasnt about race but was about fame. "If OJ was a bus driver instead of a football player, he wouldn't be getting all this support. In fact, he wouldn't even be called OJ. He would just be known as Orenthal, the bus driving murderer!"
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2007, 02:22:27 PM »
OJ is innocent  ::)
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2007, 02:39:54 PM »
I would also go with "Juice the Juice"... It's just sounds so appropriate, doesn't it!

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« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2007, 04:40:08 PM »
I think someone should kill him. When he was acquitted, I screamed out, "Someone's going to kill him!" I sometimes think that if I ever get a terminal illness how much I'd be tempted to make the trip out to CA and shoot his juicy murderous donkey!


Why waste it on O.J.? if you are going to kill something you might as well make a trip to Israel and take care of some arabs.
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« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2007, 04:44:15 PM »
OJ is innocent  ::)

Yeah, the murders were really an inside job by the Zionists and the US gov't  ::)

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« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2007, 04:46:02 PM »
I think someone should kill him. When he was acquitted, I screamed out, "Someone's going to kill him!" I sometimes think that if I ever get a terminal illness how much I'd be tempted to make the trip out to CA and shoot his juicy murderous donkey!


Why waste it on O.J.? if you are going to kill something you might as well make a trip to Israel and take care of some arabs.

We should strap a bomb around his chest and drop him off in the middle of Ramallah.

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« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2007, 05:33:33 PM »
His lawyers were the best in the world, but don't forget, the prosecution’s main witness was an open racist, who said we should kill the blacks, etc... His testimony cannot be accepted. There is also proof that evidence was planted. I don't know if OJ killed anyone, and neither do you. There was definitely not enough proof to convict him.

Every day black juries convict black people. This is an erroneous claim based on no facts at all, that blacks don’t convict blacks. Perhaps had the police not kept a racist officer, and had not planted evidence OJ would've been convicted.

You can’t execute people once they are found not guilty.

And especially in Judaism, we need 2 adult witnesses before we convict someone of murder, and that’s only with a Sanhedrin, which we don’t have today. If  according Judaism, and according to American law we aren’t allowed to execute him, why would we even raise such a question?

Surely this post is a joke.

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« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2007, 05:46:05 PM »
OJ had some skillful lawyers who managed to get him off the hook through various tricks and technecalities. But OJ's lawyers aren't as skilled this time around.

To this day only the blacks with say he's innocent. No black man is willing to admit that OJ is a murder, because according to blacks, no black could ever do anything bad, despite, the fact that their people posesses the highest murder rate in the US, even though they are a minority!


His lawyers were the best in the world, but don't forget, the prosecution’s main witness was an open racist, who said we should kill the blacks, etc... His testimony cannot be accepted. There is also proof that evidence was planted. I don't know if OJ killed anyone, and neither do you. There was definitely not enough proof to convict him.

Every day black juries convict black people. This is an erroneous claim based on no facts at all, that blacks don’t convict blacks. Perhaps had the police not kept a racist officer, and had not planted evidence OJ would've been convicted.

You can’t execute people once they are found not guilty.

And especially in Judaism, we need 2 adult witnesses before we convict someone of murder, and that’s only with a Sanhedrin, which we don’t have today. If  according Judaism, and according to American law we aren’t allowed to execute him, why would we even raise such a question?

The man is a threat to human life, and therefore, his death is necessary. There were more tons of witnesses who said he was guilty years ago, and it's obvious he's quite guilty in the current case, because there are tons of witnesses claiming the same thing.

Did you see that evil man smile as he was being lead away by police? There's a large indication.

This man was guilty years ago of his crimes years ago, and he is guilty of his recent crimes, as well.

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Why waste it on O.J.? if you are going to kill something you might as well make a trip to Israel and take care of some arabs.

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Re: Should O. J. Simpson be executed?
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2007, 05:57:11 PM »
Why should he be?Hes innocent! ::) ;Di

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Re: Should O. J. Simpson be executed?
« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2007, 06:02:23 PM »


To this day only the blacks with say he's innocent. No black man is willing to admit that OJ is a murder, because according to blacks, no black could ever do anything bad, despite, the fact that their people posesses the highest murder rate in the US, even though they are a minority!



This just simply isn't true. Have you ever seen Chris Rock talk about OJ? I've seen his bit several times and saw him in concert where he was completely going off on OJ as well as those people who think he's innocent. I've also spoken to black people who believe he's guilty. In the summer of '94, in the summer job I was working, the black people in my department thought he was guilty before I did. Race wasn't even an issue.

There's also a good number of blacks who know that he did it but think that it's justified because Rodney King was also wrong and that this was payback for Rodney King. That's just sick twisted BS thinking! I think Chris Rock puts it best when he talks about how so many black people celebrated when OJ got off and scream out, "WE WON! WE WON! What the !@#$ did we win! I'm still checking my mailbox every day to see what I won for my OJ prize!"

So you're absolutely right that OJ did it. There's no doubt about it. But you're wrong about stating that no black person would ever believe or admit that OJ is guilty.

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Re: Should O. J. Simpson be executed?
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2007, 06:07:56 PM »
OJ had some skillful lawyers who managed to get him off the hook through various tricks and technecalities. But OJ's lawyers aren't as skilled this time around.

To this day only the blacks with say he's innocent. No black man is willing to admit that OJ is a murder, because according to blacks, no black could ever do anything bad, despite, the fact that their people posesses the highest murder rate in the US, even though they are a minority!


His lawyers were the best in the world, but don't forget, the prosecution’s main witness was an open racist, who said we should kill the blacks, etc... His testimony cannot be accepted. There is also proof that evidence was planted. I don't know if OJ killed anyone, and neither do you. There was definitely not enough proof to convict him.

Every day black juries convict black people. This is an erroneous claim based on no facts at all, that blacks don’t convict blacks. Perhaps had the police not kept a racist officer, and had not planted evidence OJ would've been convicted.

You can’t execute people once they are found not guilty.

And especially in Judaism, we need 2 adult witnesses before we convict someone of murder, and that’s only with a Sanhedrin, which we don’t have today. If  according Judaism, and according to American law we aren’t allowed to execute him, why would we even raise such a question?

The man is a threat to human life, and therefore, his death is necessary. There were more tons of witnesses who said he was guilty years ago, and it's obvious he's quite guilty in the current case, because there are tons of witnesses claiming the same thing.

Did you see that evil man smile as he was being lead away by police? There's a large indication.

This man was guilty years ago of his crimes years ago, and he is guilty of his recent crimes, as well.

Actually, there were no direct witnesses to the crime. The only ones who come close to witnesses were Kato Kailin who heard thumps on his air conditioner, and that guy who heard the screams of "HEY HEY HEY!" around the time of the crime followed by him seeing a white Ford Bronco drive down the street. But there's nobody who actually saw OJ commit the murders (other than Ron and Nicole themselves). But even with that being said, there's no doubt he did it. His DNA at the crime scene and Goldman's DNA in his van and both victims' DNA at his house; you'd have to believe that every single piece of forensic evidence was planted (not contiminated) in order to believe that OJ was innocent.

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Re: Should O. J. Simpson be executed?
« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2007, 06:11:46 PM »
Bush invited O.J. to the White House for Thanksgiving Dinner because of his experience carving the white meat!

One day during a Republican convention, President Nixon stepped into the Men's Room.

Roosevelt Grier came in to the Men's Room, and began using the urinal right next to the one President Nixon was using.

Nixon couldn't help but glance over at Roosevelt's stall, having heard stories about the Negro's "prowess".

"Mr. Grier" asked Nixon..."Tell me honestly...you have such an enormous "member"...what is your peoples' secret?"..."How is it you all have such enormous "members"?".

"Weh, Missuh Prez-uh-dent, ya' see...ever' night whens ah' gits' home, ah' takes out mah thang an' whacks it on de' bedpost three timez!"..."dat's how it be so big an' e-normous!"

Nixon couldn't wait to get back to the White House after his speech!

Arriving after midnight, the President entered the bedroom where his wife Patricia was already asleep.

He pulled out his unit, and began whacking it as hard as he could on the bedpost.

Half awakened, Mrs. Nixon asked "Is that YOU, Rosie?"

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Re: Should O. J. Simpson be executed?
« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2007, 06:17:28 PM »
OJ had some skillful lawyers who managed to get him off the hook through various tricks and technecalities. But OJ's lawyers aren't as skilled this time around.

To this day only the blacks with say he's innocent. No black man is willing to admit that OJ is a murder, because according to blacks, no black could ever do anything bad, despite, the fact that their people posesses the highest murder rate in the US, even though they are a minority!


His lawyers were the best in the world, but don't forget, the prosecution’s main witness was an open racist, who said we should kill the blacks, etc... His testimony cannot be accepted. There is also proof that evidence was planted. I don't know if OJ killed anyone, and neither do you. There was definitely not enough proof to convict him.

Every day black juries convict black people. This is an erroneous claim based on no facts at all, that blacks don’t convict blacks. Perhaps had the police not kept a racist officer, and had not planted evidence OJ would've been convicted.

You can’t execute people once they are found not guilty.

And especially in Judaism, we need 2 adult witnesses before we convict someone of murder, and that’s only with a Sanhedrin, which we don’t have today. If  according Judaism, and according to American law we aren’t allowed to execute him, why would we even raise such a question?


First off, there's absolutely no evidence that the police planted evidence. It's true that the police and prosecution horribly botched the case and the evidence by allowing a lying psychopath of a cop to testify as well as bringing OJ's blood sample to the crime scene. But there's no evidence that any evidence was planted.

You're right on a legal basis that once someone is found not guilty, they can't be tried again (unless it's under a separate venue as in the civil case). But we're not talking on a legal basis. We're speaking more on a moral level and basically venting and fantasizing about what we'd like to see done to OJ.

Also, even with throwing out all of Fuhrman's testimony, there was still more than enough evidence that convicted OJ. But let's say for hypothetical purposes that Furhman did plant the glove. Okay, so we throw out the bloody glove. But there was still blood on his nose and blood on his toes, blood in his car and blood near and far, blood here, blood there, blood was jumping everywhere. His DNA found at the crime scene, the victims' DNA found in his car and his residence. Just one piece of forensic evidence convicts him. There was several pieces of DNA evidence in this case! There is no doubt that he did it!

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Re: Should O. J. Simpson be executed?
« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2007, 06:21:47 PM »
Bush invited O.J. to the White House for Thanksgiving Dinner because of his experience carving the white meat!

One day during a Republican convention, President Nixon stepped into the Men's Room.

Roosevelt Grier came in to the Men's Room, and began using the urinal right next to the one President Nixon was using.

Nixon couldn't help but glance over at Roosevelt's stall, having heard stories about the Negro's "prowess".

"Mr. Grier" asked Nixon..."Tell me honestly...you have such an enormous "member"...what is your peoples' secret?"..."How is it you all have such enormous "members"?".

"Weh, Missuh Prez-uh-dent, ya' see...ever' night whens ah' gits' home, ah' takes out mah thang an' whacks it on de' bedpost three timez!"..."dat's how it be so big an' e-normous!"

Nixon couldn't wait to get back to the White House after his speech!

Arriving after midnight, the President entered the bedroom where his wife Patricia was already asleep.

He pulled out his unit, and began whacking it as hard as he could on the bedpost.

Half awakened, Mrs. Nixon asked "Is that YOU, Rosie?"

This is a little off topic, but your post reminded me of another funny joke:

A white guy gets a tatoo of his girlfriend's name "Wendy" engraved on his member. He goes into a public restroom one day and notices in the adjacent urinal that a black guy has the same "Wendy" tatoo on his member. He asks the black guy if he also has a girlfriend named Wendy to which the black guy responds in his Jamaican accent, "No, this is only when it's flaccid. When it's extended out all the way, it reads 'Welcome to Jamaica, mon, Have a Nice Day"!

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Re: Should O. J. Simpson be executed?
« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2007, 08:15:27 PM »
My goodness if we execute him we will never know who the real killer is....he's been diligently looking for the 'real killer' on golf courses and at sports memoribilia shows :laugh:

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Re: Should O. J. Simpson be executed?
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2007, 08:16:55 PM »
Yes, OJ believes that the "real killer" must be a caddy.