Surprised!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Raulmarrio2000]

I am very surprised the the managers and members of this forum care for America. Remember that rightist Americans, even though they may share some values with Judaism, are essencially Western and antiSemite. I wouldn't care about America while they do not support Israel's right over ALL Eretz Yisrael and abolish the Christian Gregorian Pagan Calendar.
Why saving America, let them save themselves if they can. Let idolatry save them if it can.

[genteelgentile]

I am an American, and DAMN RIGHT I CARE ABOUT ISRAEL!!!!!!!!!  I want all that is good for both Israel and U.S.A.  I knew nothing about what a 'Noahide country" meant before joining this forum, but I know that is what I want.  But I truly support a strong Israel, knowing how, in turn, that would benefit me and my fellow Americans.

[TheCoon]

I am very surprised the the managers and members of this forum care for America. Remember that rightist Americans, even though they may share some values with Judaism, are essencially Western and antiSemite. I wouldn't care about America while they do not support Israel's right over ALL Eretz Yisrael and abolish the Christian Gregorian Pagan Calendar.
Why saving America, let them save themselves if they can. Let idolatry save them if it can.

This type of thinking is idiotic. How are right-wing Americans anti-Semitic? Stop fighting your allies!!!

[Rhuan]

I am very surprised the the managers and members of this forum care for America. Remember that rightist Americans, even though they may share some values with Judaism, are essencially Western and antiSemite. I wouldn't care about America while they do not support Israel's right over ALL Eretz Yisrael and abolish the Christian Gregorian Pagan Calendar.
Why saving America, let them save themselves if they can. Let idolatry save them if it can.

This type of thinking is idiotic. How are right-wing Americans anti-Semitic? Stop fighting your allies!!!

It is a common theme in a lot of non-Jewish right wing organisations to be anti-semitic.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Re:  "...I am very surprised the the managers and members of this forum care for America..."

America, simply put, is the greatest country ever to have come into being; in all of world history.  It's flaws, misdeeds, and mistakes are all "right out there on the table" for the world to see.  No other country has been such a force for good in the world, in spite of its many detractions.  Every other country since the beginning of time has also committed each and every crime attributed to America; yet the other countries' "rap sheet" of misdeeds far and away surpasses that of America.  America has come to the aid of virtually every single country and numerous ethnic peoples worldwide, includiing our sworn enemies, never once attempting to gain control or power over others in our attempt to help those in need.  While it is indeed possible to argue that America is now an "empire", her "holdings" have not been established by military invasion and annexation of other countries...but rather through the use of finance and economics.  It is possible to argue that there is Jew-hatred in America, but it is impossible to argue that it is official government policy...it is now and has always been a matter of individual choice in association.  Never has there been an official "U.S.A. Pogrom" against us.  We have always been free to live, worship, work, raise families, become educated, travel within and abroad.  To my knowledge, only the Netherlands ranks alongside the U.S. in providing a haven for the Jewish people.  Quite literally, there is no field of endeavor in the U.S. which has not benefitted from Jewish contributions; this in spite of individual American's personal prejudices.
My conclusions:  America has always been and remains a most imperfect place with injustice and inequality, but that being said, America has always been and remains so today the best, last great hope for all of mankind.
If, God forbid, America should fall and disappear, the entire world will be facing another great, long Dark Age, from which there may be no future renaissance.

[cjd]

Excellent post Massuh!! You are 100% right. It could not be said any better!!!

[Lisa]

Just to add my two cents to the orginal poster's comment....The paleoconservative right (for example, Pat Buchanan and Joseph Sobran, Paul Craig Roberts) are antisemitic.  But the more mainstream  neo-con right is not.  In fact, conservative pundits like Ann Coulter, David Limbaugh, Michael Reagan, Thomas Sowell and others are pro Israel. 

[MarZutra]

Most anti-semites on the Right Wing are that way through A. Not reading their Bibles or not having an un-molested version of them or B. They are relying on molested religious tenents, twisted teachings or personal bias not Biblical actuality.  Then again, the vast majority of Jews, let alone Christians have never read their Bibles...This speaks for Mel Gibson and the others who are, in my opinion, brainwashed into cults and not true Christians. 

Remember the Pope did not recognize Israel due to the Catholic tenents from the Council of Nicea, I believe, ruling that Jews will not return to the Land of Israel until Jesus returns.  Something like that.  It was very difficult for the last Pope to change Vatican doctrine to accept Israel and the returning of the Jews.  One can see why.  The sad part is the Vatican is not a friend to Israel....such a shame. 

[habiru]

Just to add my two cents to the orginal poster's comment....The paleoconservative right (for example, Pat Buchanan and Joseph Sobran, Paul Craig Roberts) are antisemitic.  But the more mainstream  neo-con right is not.  In fact, conservative pundits like Ann Coulter, David Limbaugh, Michael Reagan, Thomas Sowell and others are pro Israel. 

Sobran is Jewish (nu surprise there). He had Hal Turner on his staff when he ran for political office in NJ.

[Lisa]

Habiru,

Are you sure that Sobran is Jewish?  Wasn't he fired from the National Review for writing anti-Semitic articles?  Maybe he converted?

[habiru]

Habiru,

Are you sure that Sobran is Jewish?  Wasn't he fired from the National Review for writing anti-Semitic articles?  Maybe he converted?

Sorry I confused him with Murray Sabrin.
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:8STzYbJjzocJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner+hal+turner+Murray+Sabrin,&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1

[MarZutra]

Just to add my two cents to the original poster's comment....The paleoconservative right (for example, Pat Buchanan and Joseph Sobran, Paul Craig Roberts) are antisemitic.  But the more mainstream  neo-con right is not.  In fact, conservative pundits like Ann Coulter, David Limbaugh, Michael Reagan, Thomas Sowell and others are pro Israel. 

Neo-Cons are not Right Wing. They are pseudo-Conservatives and New World Order elitists.

Right on Yacov!  There really isn't any Conservatism in a Neo-Conservative. 

[MarZutra]

The founding fathers wanted this to be a Christian land. They were good to the Jews which was in accordance with their Christian beliefs. However like Rav Kahane said we Jews must go back to Israel. The US was good to us. But its our time to go back and reclaim our land. If the type of turmoil happened when the founding fathers were alive......Lets just say %90 of the high figures in government would be killed for treason. These poor men are spinning in their graves.

You are very correct!  I agree.  The UN, ACLU, CFR/Trilateral and all the subversive Communist front groups would be have been shut down with masses of treason and sedition trials.  Back then Capital punnishment was a pillar of American Justice System....today with this ability to rationalize every immoral abomination into something that must be "toleranted", "excused" or even advocated is surely a sign of what is to come....