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adam613:
There have been a number of books written by scientists who have serious questions the theory of evolution. Of course anyway that question it is labeled a "religious person" that can't be objective. So , only the nonreligious can discuss evolution and of course "nonreligious" people have their won bias. I was reading part of Ann Coulters book and this was discussed how any person that question evolution they look into their background.

On top of this the conservative book club has a number of books out one the politically incorrect guide to evolution and they also have the book "Darwin's black box" 10th anniversary edition in which the author a biological chemist in which discoveries in biochemistry could not be explained by Darwin's theory of randomness. I admit at this point I don't know what to think in general of the "science" you learn as a kid about creation. Certainly, evolution is a very problematic theory so what are you to make of the rest of it (the age of the universal among other issues?) What to other people have to say about this.

adam613:
Well according to the Book "Darwin's Black Box" there are problems with evolution. The problem he finds is some systems if one part of the system doesn't work that whole system is disfunctional and therefore it could not have developed "in stages" the way evolution believes. Here is a review of this book "DARWIN"S BLACK BOX"

Ten years ago, Darwinists could credibly boast that no "serious" scientist took issue with Darwin's theory of evolution. Then came biochemist Michael Behe's Darwin's Black Box -- and everything changed. Drawing on cutting-edge discoveries in biochemistry, Dr. Behe revealed that life at the molecular level exhibits unmistakeable evidence of design, beyond Darwinian randomness. Using the examples of vision, bloodclotting, cellular transport, and more, he showed how the biochemical world comprises an arsenal of chemical machines with so many finely calibrated, interdependent parts as to be "irreducibly complex" -- meaning that they cannot have evolved by stages, because any precursor to an irreducibly complex system that is missing a part would be completely nonfunctional

Overnight, it seemed, the Intelligent Design movement was born, and Dr. Behe became its one of its most respected and articulate spokesmen. Now, Darwin's Black Box has been reissued in a Tenth-Anniversary Edition with an all-new afterword in which Behe explains that the complexity discovered by microbiologists has dramatically increased since the book was first published -- and that the evolutionists have had no success in explaining it.

jdl4ever:
From what I hear, the black box refers to a specific issue that evolution by itself can't explain.  Evolution can explain the development of new charactaristics by random mutations in a population.  And the beneficial characteristics areselected by the envirnmentthat benefit a the population and those charactaristics are then amplified by natural selection over many generations until they are kept and gradually the species will change or evolve after many cycles of these events.  This is good so long as those charactaristics are simple like bacteria naturally selecting antibiotic resistant strains. When things get complicated, pure evolution fails. 

 What Pure Evolution (I mean evolution w/o G-d) can not explain is the development of complete organ systems since they require millions of sequential mutations to evolve, but each one of these mutations will serve no benefit for the species since an organ system must be perfect to function; a partially evolved organ system will not work.  For such a thing to happen, THERE NEEDS TO BE A G-D directing the process since mathematically it does not make sense probability wize why and how millions of senseless genetic changes will just so happen to occur over millions of years in just the right way to form a new organ system.  There must be a designer pulling the strings for this to happen.  This is the black box of evolution that evolution can not explain without putting G-d into the equation.  Hence, Inteligent design= Evolution + G-d since the two are complementary.  I like to thank one of my catholic friends for pointing out what the black box was since I didn't know about it until he told me what it is.  The pure evolutionists can not explain this and come up with crazy theories that don't make sense like theorizing times where the mutation rate was millions of times faster than normal and organisms rapidly jumped hundreds of evolutionary steps in only a few generations. 

Christian Zionist:
First of all evolution is not Science.  It is a psudo-science which contradicts the 2nd law of thermodynamics.  Our world is running out of resouces and going down and down. But evolution says the world went up and up and mankind evolved from low level animals.

****************Website Link Deleted************************* After reading Hail Columbia's comments.  Sorry for posting a muslim site here  >:(

If it is possible to propose a "theistic" evolution theory compromising the miracle working power of G-d of the Bible and a junk science like evolution then it opens the door to trivialize other miraculous events in the Bible.

Sir Julian Huxley was well known as the world's leading evolutinist; the first director of the United Nations Educational, Scientific, and Cultural Organization; and the grandson of Thomas Huxley, who earned the nickname "Darwin's bulldog" for vehementlyy defnding his theory of evolution.

In a 1975 television interview, he was asked "Why have so many scientists been so quick to adopt Darwin's thoty of evolution?

Rather than respond with scientific evidence or logical arguments, Huxley said, "The reason we scientists all jumed jumped at the Origin of Species was because the idea of G-d interfered with our sexual mores"

Hail Columbia:

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christianzionist, good site, but the problem is that it is based on the works of Harun Yahya, a Muslim scholar.  Proceed with caution.

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