Arafat Died of AIDS

[Raulmarrio2000]

To Christian and Newman, those who offend people for their diseases are cruel.
Today a man here died of AIDS and cancer, both at the same time. I'd want to know if you'd say the same in case one of your familes were HIV+.
Newman if it were for you you'd kill everyone, including me for believing in the Samaritan Torah.
And you Christian, are no help to Israel, you seen a fundamentalist

[newman]

To Christian and Newman, those who offend people for their diseases are cruel.
Today a man here died of AIDS and cancer, both at the same time. I'd want to know if you'd say the same in case one of your familes were HIV+.
Newman if it were for you you'd kill everyone, including me for believing in the Samaritan Torah.
And you Christian, are no help to Israel, you seen a fundamentalist

Only if you do it publicly in Israel. Outside the Holy Land I don't care what rubbish you believe in.

[Merkava]

Are you a troll?

Nope ! Are you that gullible enough to think I wasn't aware that Arafat has been worm food for the last 3 years?

no he's been dead..unless that is a typo.

  It was indeed...sorry for the confusion

[Merkava]

They should stop funding research for AIDS cures immediately. Let fags and junkies die.

This comment is shocking. Aids doesn't discriminate. It knows no colour, ethnicity, social class.

Lets say for whatever reason you were infected with HIV (G-d forbid) - then what ?

[Daniel]

Where is the evidence and documentation that he died of AIDS? I've only seen it mentioned by Chaim and forum members. I've never seen any other sources or documentation to back this up. Where does Chaim and the rest of you get your information?

Either way, whether or not he died of AIDS is an irrelevant issue as far as I'm concerned. The important thing is that he's dead!

[Trumpeldor]

Where is the evidence and documentation that he died of AIDS? I've only seen it mentioned by Chaim and forum members. I've never seen any other sources or documentation to back this up. Where does Chaim and the rest of you get your information?

Either way, whether or not he died of AIDS is an irrelevant issue as far as I'm concerned. The important thing is that he's dead!

I'm surprised at you, Daniel. You usually do your research.

It was suggested by the NYT.

http://www.nytimes.com/2004/11/12/international/europe/12health.html

Arafat's doctor admits Arafat carried HIV:
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/892231.html

Suggested by World Net Daily:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41286

[Daniel]

Thanks for the info. These articles seem to speculate more than anything. So it certainly is possible. But either way, the most important issues are that he was a murderous terrorist and that he is now dead.

[Trumpeldor]

Thanks for the info. These articles seem to speculate more than anything. So it certainly is possible. But either way, the most important issues are that he was a murderous terrorist and that he is now dead.

Speculate? Arafat's own doctor said he had H.I.V. in his blood, but 'poison' killed him.

One of Arafat's former bodyguard attests to his pedophilic rampages in Soviet-bloc countries and relations with the guards.

[Raulmarrio2000]

To Christian and Newman, those who offend people for their diseases are cruel.
Today a man here died of AIDS and cancer, both at the same time. I'd want to know if you'd say the same in case one of your familes were HIV+.
Newman if it were for you you'd kill everyone, including me for believing in the Samaritan Torah.
And you Christian, are no help to Israel, you seen a fundamentalist

Only if you do it publicly in Israel. Outside the Holy Land I don't care what rubbish you believe in.

I don't want to offend you, but hoestly it seems to me that you are at least a non brave man. You dare to call the Samaritan Torah a "rubish", just because I may be one of the the very few Goyim who believe in it. And Samaritans themselves are only 750 persons. I imagine you also think the New Testament is "rubish", but you don't dare to say it, just because Christians are millions in number. Would you kill a Catholic going to mass in Israel every Sunday? Why the hell would you kill me for just going ONE DAY to Gerizim?
Regarding AIDS, I advise you to think it better before speaking. What if you get married and have a son/daughter who commits any sexual immorality and gets AIDS? I imagine, thet even though you would disagree with his/her behaviour, you would tell the doctos to try to cure him. So you'd better think before speaking.

[maryjoe]

To Christian and Newman, those who offend people for their diseases are cruel.
Today a man here died of AIDS and cancer, both at the same time. I'd want to know if you'd say the same in case one of your familes were HIV+.
Newman if it were for you you'd kill everyone, including me for believing in the Samaritan Torah.
And you Christian, are no help to Israel, you seen a fundamentalist

Only if you do it publicly in Israel. Outside the Holy Land I don't care what rubbish you believe in.

I don't want to offend you, but hoestly it seems to me that you are at least a non brave man. You dare to call the Samaritan Tarh a "rubish", just because I may be one of the the very few Goyim who believe in it. And Samaritans themselves are only 750 persons. I imagine you also think the New Testament is "rubish", but you don't dare to say it, just because Christians are millions in number. Would you kill a Catholic going to mass in Israel every Sunday? Why the hell would you kill me fot just going ONE DAY to Gerizim?
Regarding AIDS, I advise you to think it better before speaking. What if you get married and have a son/daughter who commits any sexual immorality and gets AIDS? I imagine, thet even though you would disagree with his/her behaviour, you would tell the doctos to try to cure him. So you'd better think before speaking.

Raulmorro you are joining with the samartians who have attacked the true Torah. they reject the oral law that Hashem gave to Moses. the smartians live with the Arab's, who are anti-jewish, and would kill Jewish people every time they get a chance. The Arab's do not bother the samartians, WHY, because they are not Jewish! they are practicing false Judaism. before you join do some more reseach.

[Shlomo]

arafat, that sick, murderous piece of garbage died from AIDS because of his lifestyle.

Not everyone who has AIDS is a homosexual. Some innocent kids got AIDS from bad blood transfusions. But on the average (the HUGE majority which is why it used to be called GRID or "Gay-Related Immune Deficiency"), homosexual men (predominately black) are the largest carrier of AIDS. This is partial due to the number of people they had sodomy with. On the average, homosexual men have about 500 partners in a lifetime. Homosexual women have about 3 which is why they don't carry as often.

It wasn't enough that he had sex with other men and raped young boys... that sick, perverted sack of excrement did it all KNOWING he had AIDS. He was an evil murderer in so many ways. That filthy, lying killer of Jewish people died because his own evil rotted and infected him from the inside out.

[Raulmarrio2000]

Raulmorro you are joining with the samartians who have attacked the true Torah. they reject the oral law that Hashem gave to Moses. the smartians live with the Arab's, who are anti-jewish, and would kill Jewish people every time they get a chance. The Arab's do not bother the samartians, WHY, because they are not Jewish! they are practicing false Judaism. before you join do some more reseach.

First of all Samaritans just live among Arabs b/c Gerizim is sorrounded by Arab towns now. They cling to Gerizim, not to Arabs. Millions of them have been massacred by Arabs and Byzantines. The few remaining celebrate Yom Haatzmaut.
I have not come here to duscuss religious issues, and I don't mean to join them. A goy cannot convert to Samaritanism nowadays, and I would not take their strict Laws either. I just learned about them six years ago. I believed in Gerizim long before I knew about them.

[maryjoe]

Raulmorro you are joining with the samartians who have attacked the true Torah. they reject the oral law that Hashem gave to Moses. the smartians live with the Arab's, who are anti-jewish, and would kill Jewish people every time they get a chance. The Arab's do not bother the samartians, WHY, because they are not Jewish! they are practicing false Judaism. before you join do some more reseach.

First of all Samaritans just live among Arabs b/c Gerizim is sorrounded by Arab towns now. They cling to Gerizim, not to Arabs. Millions of them have been massacred by Arabs and Byzantines. The few remaining celebrate Yom Haatzmaut.
I have not come here to duscuss religious issues, and I don't mean to join them. A goy cannot convert to Samaritanism nowadays, and I would not take their strict Laws either. I just learned about them six years ago. I believed in Gerizim long before I knew about them.

Mount Gerizim is only imporatnt to Jews because of what is in Parashat Re'eh. Half the nation stands on it and the other half stands on Mount Eval while they make blessings and curse. The only Jew I heard of that claims that is the real Moriah is the kike Avraham Burg.

If the N word is not allowed kike should not be allowed ether.

[Raulmarrio2000]

Mount Gerizim is only imporatnt to Jews because of what is in Parashat Re'eh. Half the nation stands on it and the other half stands on Mount Eval while they make blessings and curse. The only Jew I heard of that claims that is the real Moriah is the kike Avraham Burg.

If I don't remember badly, Abraham Burg is someone who lives in Israel. He used to report the Israeli news to a Jewish radio program here in Argentina. When I was a teen I called the radio to ask for a Hebrw song I liked, and... there was a technical problem with their phone, and my call was mixed with his report, so I herad his voice.
So, he also believes in Guerizim? I thought no Jews believed in it, except from 3 American Jews, who once wanted to build their own Synagogue for themselves to pray towards Guerizim.
BTW, what do you mean by a "kike"? I just don't know that word, English is not my native language.

[Daniel]

arafat, that sick, murderous piece of garbage died from AIDS because of his lifestyle.

Not everyone who has AIDS is a homosexual. Some innocent kids got AIDS from bad blood transfusions. But on the average (the HUGE majority which is why it used to be called GRID or "Gay-Related Immune Deficiency"), homosexual men (predominately black) are the largest carrier of AIDS. This is partial due to the number of people they had sodomy with. On the average, homosexual men have about 500 partners in a lifetime. Homosexual women have about 3 which is why they don't carry as often.

It wasn't enough that he had sex with other men and raped young boys... that sick, perverted sack of excrement did it all KNOWING he had AIDS. He was an evil murderer in so many ways. That filthy, lying killer of Jewish people died because his own evil rotted and infected him from the inside out.

500 partners in a lifetime??? Where did you get this information from? The gay guys that I have known were so much more picky and monogamous than anyone else I've ever come across. I'd like to see the source for your information about this claim of 500 partners in a lifetime. I find that claim highly dubious at best.

[Raulmarrio2000]

To Christian and Newman, those who offend people for their diseases are cruel.
Today a man here died of AIDS and cancer, both at the same time. I'd want to know if you'd say the same in case one of your familes were HIV+.
Newman if it were for you you'd kill everyone, including me for believing in the Samaritan Torah.
And you Christian, are no help to Israel, you seen a fundamentalist

Only if you do it publicly in Israel. Outside the Holy Land I don't care what rubbish you believe in.

I don't want to offend you, but hoestly it seems to me that you are at least a non brave man. You dare to call the Samaritan Torah a "rubish", just because I may be one of the the very few Goyim who believe in it. And Samaritans themselves are only 750 persons. I imagine you also think the New Testament is "rubish", but you don't dare to say it, just because Christians are millions in number. Would you kill a Catholic going to mass in Israel every Sunday? Why the hell would you kill me for just going ONE DAY to Gerizim?
Regarding AIDS, I advise you to think it better before speaking. What if you get married and have a son/daughter who commits any sexual immorality and gets AIDS? I imagine, thet even though you would disagree with his/her behaviour, you would tell the doctors to try to cure him. So you'd better think before speaking.

[newman]

To Christian and Newman, those who offend people for their diseases are cruel.
Today a man here died of AIDS and cancer, both at the same time. I'd want to know if you'd say the same in case one of your familes were HIV+.
Newman if it were for you you'd kill everyone, including me for believing in the Samaritan Torah.
And you Christian, are no help to Israel, you seen a fundamentalist

Only if you do it publicly in Israel. Outside the Holy Land I don't care what rubbish you believe in.

I don't want to offend you, but hoestly it seems to me that you are at least a non brave man. You dare to call the Samaritan Torah a "rubish", just because I may be one of the the very few Goyim who believe in it. And Samaritans themselves are only 750 persons. I imagine you also think the New Testament is "rubish", but you don't dare to say it, just because Christians are millions in number. Would you kill a Catholic going to mass in Israel every Sunday? Why the hell would you kill me for just going ONE DAY to Gerizim?
Regarding AIDS, I advise you to think it better before speaking. What if you get married and have a son/daughter who commits any sexual immorality and gets AIDS? I imagine, thet even though you would disagree with his/her behaviour, you would tell the doctos to try to cure him. So you'd better think before speaking.

I would burn every church to the ground in Israel. Israel is a JEWISH state ONLY.

[Raulmarrio2000]

I would burn every church to the ground in Israel. Israel is a JEWISH state ONLY.

Well, I have nothing against churches which have been for centuries in Israel, unless they try to convert Jews.
But don't you think EVERY western country would attack Israel, if it destroyed churches? So if I , who don't aim to remove them, still dislike the West, why do you think JTF still strives to save the Western Civilization?
No matter what political leader handles the West, they will never change their agenda: "Israel "was" the Chosen People, which was replaced by the Church" (Rightist West).
"Judaism is a racist religion who separates Jews from the rest of mankind" (Liberal West)

[Merkava]

The reason why homosexual women don't gets AIDS is because the female anatomy doesn't enable them to have homosexual "sex". Otherwise they would get it. Also, female homosexuality isn't punishable by death while male homosexuality is.

I can't beleive people in JTF make statements like that. I have been amazed with the knowledge of history in this forum but when it comes to AIDS you guys need to go back to school. Anyone can get AIDS. It can be transmitted via the exchange of body fluids. Doesn't matter if you are a lesbian, a homosexual or a necrofiliac. All it takes is the exchange of body fluids between two people and you are at risk. If you ask me the people who are at most risk: homosexuals, drug abusers but also the stupid people that think that AIDS is only a problem for junkies & gays

[newman]

The reason why homosexual women don't gets AIDS is because the female anatomy doesn't enable them to have homosexual "sex". Otherwise they would get it. Also, female homosexuality isn't punishable by death while male homosexuality is.

I can't beleive people in JTF make statements like that. I have been amazed with the knowledge of history in this forum but when it comes to AIDS you guys need to go back to school. Anyone can get AIDS. It can be transmitted via the exchange of body fluids. Doesn't matter if you are a lesbian, a homosexual or a necrofiliac. All it takes is the exchange of body fluids between two people and you are at risk. If you ask me the people who are at most risk: homosexuals, drug abusers but also the stupid people that think that AIDS is only a problem for junkies & gays

Most heterosexual AIDS infections (from normal vaginal sex) occur in third world countries or in poorer western communities where they have inferior health care and they suffer higher instances of vinereal diseases. It is through sores, ulcers, fissures that HIV is transferred in heterosexuals because there is blood to blood contact. Anal sex (wether hetro or homo) still poses a great risk.

I've heard senior medical lecturers admit this and state that they are reluctant to divulge these facts lest people think "AIDS is only a gay, black or poor disease". They did state that it is harder for a man to catch AIDS from a woman than the reverse.

In short, it is very rare to catch AIDS through normal, vaginal sex when both parties have NO other vinereal diseases.

[Raulmarrio2000]

I agree with you Merkavah. And the people who are at the utmost risk are those who have sex with anybody and think they can't be infected just because they are straight.
And for those who hate gays so much, I must say that homosexuality is forbidden by the Torah, but wasting one's seed (using condom is) is also forbidden. And now, if you don't use a condom, you are very likely to get AIDS. So the only Kosher alternative is celibate for singles. Are those who hate gays, ready to accept celibate for singles?
When I was aiming to convert, I was about to take a bus to return from my interview with the Rav, and it was a gay in the street who warned me not to take that bus. He'd just seen I had a Kipah, and there was a gang of neo-nazis at the next stop. Why would I hate him for not following Torah. Many of my friends who are straight also violate Torah by wasting their seed!

[Raulmarrio2000]

In short, it is very rare to catch AIDS through normal, vaginal sex when both parties have NO other vinereal diseases.

I wouldn't be so sure, and you shouldn't say that. You encourage people to take a risk. Those who strictly follow the Torah, then just have sex only with his wife, after they both had a test. Those who can't or won't afford that, then better use a condom......But I must say that even with  condom there is still a risk.

[newman]

In short, it is very rare to catch AIDS through normal, vaginal sex when both parties have NO other vinereal diseases.

I wouldn't be so sure, and you shouldn't say that. You encourage people to take a risk. Those who strictly follow the Torah, then just have sex only with his wife, after they both had a test. Those who can't or won't afford that, then better use a condom......But I must say that even with  condom there is still a risk.

That is honest, scientific fact. Yes, you're right. It IS witheld because it may encourage promiscuity/ unsafe sex amongst affluent, western hetrosexuals. But facts are facts.

[Merkava]

Well said Raul ...tu si que tienes razon.

JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR ANY ONE CAN GET AIDS ! IF YOU ARE READING THIS FORUM AND YOU ENGAGE IN SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH SOMEONE ELSE PLEASE USE A CONDOM BECAUSE IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE

IF YOU ARE A MUSLIM HAVE AS MUCH UNPROTECTED SEX AS POSSIBLE SPECIALLY IN AFRICA. DON'T WORRY, ALLAH WILL PROTECT YOU.

[newman]

Well said Raul ...tu si que tienes razon.

JUST TO MAKE IT CLEAR ANY ONE CAN GET AIDS ! IF YOU ARE READING THIS FORUM AND YOU ENGAGE IN SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH SOMEONE ELSE PLEASE USE A CONDOM BECAUSE IT CAN HAPPEN TO ANYONE

IF YOU ARE A MUSLIM HAVE AS MUCH UNPROTECTED SEX AS POSSIBLE SPECIALLY IN AFRICA. DON'T WORRY, ALLAH WILL PROTECT YOU.