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Offline Srbin

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Save Serbia, HOW?
« on: November 04, 2007, 05:19:01 PM »
Please take your time and read my message. It is long, but I would appreciate if you did so.

How should we save Serbia? Well it's first up to the Serbian people. We need to stand together. We can't act like we have done till now and are still doing. Just look at this. There is no brotherhood like it was in the past. No one cares anymore. Nowadays we don't help each other. Everyone is going their own path. Yet still many sit at home and has Serbian flags all over the place and they pretend being patriots, but they can't help their friend that's carrying heavy furniture? Then how can they brag about "Samo Sloga Srbina Spašava" when they are doing the opposite.

My cousin and some of his friends patrolled the area around treskavica (A place in Republika Srpska where many Serbs died during the war). They met Bosniak forces, and they were outnumbered. They were firing at each other until a Bosniak machine gunner came up the hill and started firing. My cousin had courage to sneak up to the machine gunner and grab the machine gun with his bare hands. His hands got burned but he took the machine gun and killed as many as he could until he got wounded in the shoulder. He dropped the machine gun and tried to run but unfortunately he was shot in the other shoulder. His friends were there and they knew he couldn't run away because of his injuries and they decided to leave him. They left him instead of finish him of his miseries. He was caught by Bosniaks and they cut him all in pieces. His father found him with the fingers, eyes and everything scattered around. If this happened during WW1, he wouldn't get caught by the enemy, he would get killed so that he doesn’t experience a painful death. This is just one story and there are many more people that died. But that proves that we do the opposite of CCCC.

Think my Serbian brothers and sisters. Should it be like this? Wouldn't it better if we helped each other like we did 100 of years ago? After all the biggest of everything my Lord God won't help us until we stand together. It is our fault that the majority hates Serbs. And that is because we don't even try to show the world that we are not barbarians, that we are not hateful people, that we are not murderers, rapists etc...

We are just sitting there and doing nothing. Yes, there are people that stand up. But what can they do if the entire people don't follow their path? Nothing. They just get like 1000 supporters instead of a billion. These days all Serbian generals, and captains and all kinds of military ranks are sent to the INTERNATIONAL TRIBUNAL OF HAGUE for things they did not commit. Bosniak and Croatian and other nationalities aren't sent there except for a minority. Naser Oric who murdered thousands of Serbs was sent to The Hague and was released even if the evidence was pointing as his guilt. THEN WHY DON'T WE PROVE THAT IN PUBLIC? Why don't we prove it? My brothers and sisters, Operation Storm (Oluja) was recognized as a liberation operation because the Croatian people decided to make their selves innocent, and made the world think that it was a liberation operation. We all that know that it's not true, then why not GRAB THE PROBLEM!!! Step up, Speak, fight for your rights! Don't let them lie!

Yes, there may have been those who stepped up, but they just gave up to easy. Go take a look in Belgrade. There's almost NO ONE that cares about the past. If you ask them about the war they will just answer: "That was then, we don't care about that. I want to go shopping who cares if people hate us. Let the politicians take care of that!" It will be too late for them to understand when only 100 Serbs are left on this world. Or look at Republika Srpskas government. Milorad Dodik. Many of us Serbs think he is a hero. That he is leading the Serbs to an independent Republika Srpska. But there you got brainwashed!!! He is only thinking of a way to get enough money for his family and his hometown. Do you think he gives a damn about what happens to us Serbs? Almost everyone votes for him. Why do we do that? DID MY RELATIVES DIE IN THE WAR BECAUSE OF NOTHING? DID OTHER SERBIANS DIE FOR NOTHING? WHY DID MY COUSIN DIE? They were fighting for our freedom!! NOT FOR A MILORAD DODIK TO STEAL MONEY. He isn’t even a Serbian. Dodik is not a Serbian last name. His roots come from the Czech Republic or Slovakia or Slovenia can’t remember. Many Serbs died. And if we don't something, then they die for nothing. If we don't do something, then if I can go back to the past, I would tell my relatives and other soldiers not to join the war.

My brothers and sisters, why is Boris Tadic and Kostunica even near the government?? What are they doing to justify the Serbian people? NOTHING! About Holy land Kosovo. If the government remains a pus.sy like they are now, we will loose Kosovo for sure. If America wants it to be independent say NO! If Albanians want independence say NO! Threat with war against Albania. Just do something for fu.cks sake!

Despite that they know how important Kosovo is they gamble with it. Brothers and sisters, Stand up for your motherland. Protect it! We all know how good we are at defending our selves. Look. What Croatia and Bosnia did to us was totally wrong. They lie about things and crap, and a massacre occurs here and there. It’s wrong and we know it. What Bush/Clinton did is just the worst that can happen. They are, and still are turning the the world against us. And why they are doing that is an unknown reason. Probably an evil that exists in Clinton and Bush. THEY DON'T HAVE RIGHT TO DO THAT! WHO THE FCUK ARE THEY? But the problem is why THE FCUK WE ARE PUSSI.ES RIGHT NOW? Why don't we stand up for our country? Why don't we prove the world that Bushfu.ck and clintoncun.t are the world’s biggest bast.ards ever.

Why don't we prove the world in what damn propaganda they believe? Damn... just damn.

Шта вам је? Па јели нам Свети Сава рекао да Само Слога Србина Спашава? Што га онда не слушамо. Срби, моји драги срби. Пробуди те се.
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

Offline Husar

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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2007, 07:45:54 PM »
I AGREE A HUNDRED PER CENT.

The very fact you find Serbs here, in JTF,
is a good sign for all of us, Serbs.

 ;)

"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2007, 08:08:12 PM »
Srbin(e),

I agree wholeheartedly. The only shot Western Nazis had at destroying yugoslavia was dividing. This is how they rule the world - divide and conquer. They divided Serbs and made up new nationalities and languages.

If we know what is good for us, we should stick together. We should take our example from Jews, who managed to stick together through thick and thin and resist Muslim/Nazi/Anti-Semitic barbarity.
~Ne mogu nam nauditi, ni gromovi ni oluje, navik'o je Srpski narod da slobodu krvlju kuje~

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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2007, 09:37:50 AM »
Jeste li procitali cijeli text?

Moramo se sloziti. Necemo nikada ista postici ako se ne slozimo, i to bas NIKADA! I meni se cini da nas Bog kaznjava zato sto nismo slozni. Samo pogledaj 1389, 28 jun (15 jun po starom kalendaru) nas je izdo meni se cini Vuk Brankovic kad nije dosao sa svojim nekoliko hiljada vojnika. Da je on dosao, pobjeda bi mogla bita srpska.

Ja bih najvise na ovom svijetu htjeo da se svi srbi sloze, i da se oslobodimo od ove jebene propagande i da vise usutimo sva ta sranja. Sve bi uradio za to. sve.

Ali evo nesta da vam digne duh.

" When torrent of arrows landed on Serbian armsmen
who until then stood motionless like mountains of iron,
they rode forward, rolling and thundering like the sea "
« Last Edit: November 06, 2007, 09:58:40 AM by Srbin »
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2007, 10:22:16 AM »
Srbin wrote:

"Jeste li procitali cijeli text?

Have you read the whole text ? (Yes we did)

Moramo se sloziti.

We have to get in harmony.

Necemo nikada ista postici ako se ne slozimo, i to bas NIKADA!

We will never succeed in anything if we do not get in harmony, absolutely NEVER !

I meni se cini da nas Bog kaznjava zato sto nismo slozni.

It seems also to myself G-d is punishing us for we're not in harmony.

Samo pogledaj 1389, 28 jun (15 jun po starom kalendaru)

Just look at june 28th, 1389 (june 15th by the old calendar) (Battle of Kosovo Field)

 nas je izdo meni se cini Vuk Brankovic kad nije dosao sa svojim nekoliko hiljada vojnika.

we were betrayed by Vuk (Wolf) Brankovic since he didn't come with his thousands soldiers.

Da je on dosao, pobjeda bi mogla bita srpska.

Did he come, the Victory would have been Serb.

Ja bih najvise na ovom svijetu htjeo da se svi srbi sloze,

I would like the most on this earth, that all Serbs get in harmony with each other,

i da se oslobodimo od ove jebene propagande i da vise usutimo sva ta sranja.

and that we free ourselves from all this f..king propaganda, and we shut all these s..t up.

 Sve bi uradio za to. sve.

I would do anything for this. Anything.

Ali evo nesta da vam digne duh."

But here's something to elevate your spirit.

" When torrent of arrows landed on Serbian armsmen
who until then stood motionless like mountains of iron,
they rode forward, rolling and thundering like the sea "


Would you be kind, Srbin,
next time, to write in english,
so that all JTFers understand you ?

Thank you for sharing your deep thoughts.

 :)
« Last Edit: November 06, 2007, 10:24:11 AM by Husar »
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2007, 10:30:29 AM »
Srbin wrote:

"Jeste li procitali cijeli text?

Have you read the whole text ? (Yes we did)

Moramo se sloziti.

We have to get in harmony.

Necemo nikada ista postici ako se ne slozimo, i to bas NIKADA!

We will never succeed in anything if we do not get in harmony, absolutely NEVER !

I meni se cini da nas Bog kaznjava zato sto nismo slozni.

It seems also to myself G-d is punishing us for we're not in harmony.

Samo pogledaj 1389, 28 jun (15 jun po starom kalendaru)

Just look at june 28th, 1389 (june 15th by the old calendar) (Battle of Kosovo Field)

 nas je izdo meni se cini Vuk Brankovic kad nije dosao sa svojim nekoliko hiljada vojnika.

we were betrayed by Vuk (Wolf) Brankovic since he didn't come with his thousands soldiers.

Da je on dosao, pobjeda bi mogla bita srpska.

Did he come, the Victory would have been Serb.

Ja bih najvise na ovom svijetu htjeo da se svi srbi sloze,

I would like the most on this earth, that all Serbs get in harmony with each other,

i da se oslobodimo od ove jebene propagande i da vise usutimo sva ta sranja.

and that we free ourselves from all this f..king propaganda, and we shut all these s..t up.

 Sve bi uradio za to. sve.

I would do anything for this. Anything.

Ali evo nesta da vam digne duh."

But here's something to elevate your spirit.

" When torrent of arrows landed on Serbian armsmen
who until then stood motionless like mountains of iron,
they rode forward, rolling and thundering like the sea "


Would you be kind, Srbin,
next time, to write in english,
so that all JTFers understand you ?

Thank you for sharing your deep thoughts.

 :)

oh, ok I will next time, but it's just that I want to express myself with mine, and my brothers and sisters langauge, Serbian.
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

Offline Husar

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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2007, 10:38:19 AM »
I understand you, brother,
and in both Languages.

 ;)

Still, we Serbs have to express ourselves
in english, since it is understood by every JTFer.

JTF gives us, Serbs, full support,
let's speak TOGETHER.

 :)

"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2007, 10:41:35 AM »
I understand you, brother,
and in both Languages.

 ;)

Still, we Serbs have to express ourselves
in english, since it is understood by every JTFer.

JTF gives us, Serbs, full support,
let's speak TOGETHER.

 :)



Okay  O0
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2007, 10:42:34 AM »
 ;)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Offline Srbin

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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2007, 11:05:08 AM »
;)

Wow man you really like to poshunt hehe : D

You want to reach 1000 posts and get a new rank right? :P
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2007, 11:07:27 AM »
I do not care at all about my ranking.

I just feel AT HOME.

Thanks for worrying...

 :)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2007, 03:11:43 PM »
I do not care at all about my ranking.

I just feel AT HOME.

Thanks for worrying...

 :)

kidding bro :d
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2007, 04:46:43 PM »
Shalom, hello, pozdrav


I've been looking a little bit for a place to put my first post on this forum, and this topic seemed appropriate.

It will be very short this time.

My name is Ognjen Ogi Diamant, I am 22 (yr, cm) lol. I grew up in Belgrade, Serbia. Two months ago I made Aliyah to Israel, in order to bring my family back on Jewish tracks. I live in Jerusalem now.

It would be very difficult for me to say which is the country that I live more - Israel or Serbia...actually - impossible.
Israel is in bigger threat and Serbia has been through harder times and still is struggling very hard. OK, you probably already now that.

Last that i have seen from Serbia is that it is modernizing, that it is getting organized, and I've left the country with impression that it could become a real leader of wide region. I could spend hours and hours writing about all potentials Serbia has. Huge spectar of different opportunities, a small country that has everything to offer except sea swimming (so far lol). It is sad that sometimes you think it is potential only, but there are some signs that it will change. It is not easy at all to come out of such a big crisis and tragedy. Sometimes it seems that crisis is still as deep as it was in the beginning of 1990's.
Serbia could, given some space, disperse good vibes to neighbors.

I hope that this modern "battle for Kosovo" can unite Serbs in efforts to build a strong country that can stand up for its rights.

I wouldn't speak much now about all the mis justice done to Serbs and Serbia through past two decades...the fact that Serbs are Orthodox nation with territory closest to EUrope...
In order to prevent big problems on Balkans in future, Serbs must be given some piece of justice. All of this seen in past twenty years, with no exceptions, was just pure force.
It is good that it seems there is place for friendship between Jews and Serbs. History and problematics are not the same, but Serbs can learn a lot. I don't like making friends based on common enemy. It is actually not a friendship. No need for it.
Serbs and Jews can become friends because those are both small nations (12 and probably 14-15 milions) who have big problems, history of being victims of genocide and hate...




I am very happy to hear about good cooperation between Serbian and Israeli governments, in intelligence and military experiences exchange. Also, Israeli companies are very active on Serbian market, there is space for lots of Serbian companies on Israeli market (our countries are not so far away)...and I am very proud to be among very few of those who came to Israel from a country where antisemitism and Nazism are not big as they in almost whole modern world are. Just after I came to Israel, Serbia has shown to all the world how Nazis should be treated. By public beating and transferring to prison and court.

OK...to make this post hit the topic:


Save Serbia from home, and by being best possible in your job, by being a good friend and a good neighbor, by being a good parent, by educating yourself and your kids. Good effect is guaranteed.


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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2007, 05:01:16 PM »
Хвала ти,
Hvala ti,
Thank you,
whataman.

 ;)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2007, 05:08:08 PM »
I hope that this modern "battle for Kosovo" can unite Serbs in efforts to build a strong country that can stand up for its rights.


I wish that too... But the way things are now, it will never happen until a new leader unite the people. Not someone evil like hitler, but someone good. I would step up if I had the chance...
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2007, 05:16:56 PM »
Shalom, hello, pozdrav


I've been looking a little bit for a place to put my first post on this forum, and this topic seemed appropriate.

It will be very short this time.

My name is Ognjen Ogi Diamant, I am 22 (yr, cm) lol. I grew up in Belgrade, Serbia. Two months ago I made Aliyah to Israel, in order to bring my family back on Jewish tracks. I live in Jerusalem now.

It would be very difficult for me to say which is the country that I live more - Israel or Serbia...actually - impossible.
Israel is in bigger threat and Serbia has been through harder times and still is struggling very hard. OK, you probably already now that.

Last that i have seen from Serbia is that it is modernizing, that it is getting organized, and I've left the country with impression that it could become a real leader of wide region. I could spend hours and hours writing about all potentials Serbia has. Huge spectar of different opportunities, a small country that has everything to offer except sea swimming (so far lol). It is sad that sometimes you think it is potential only, but there are some signs that it will change. It is not easy at all to come out of such a big crisis and tragedy. Sometimes it seems that crisis is still as deep as it was in the beginning of 1990's.
Serbia could, given some space, disperse good vibes to neighbors.

I hope that this modern "battle for Kosovo" can unite Serbs in efforts to build a strong country that can stand up for its rights.

I wouldn't speak much now about all the mis justice done to Serbs and Serbia through past two decades...the fact that Serbs are Orthodox nation with territory closest to EUrope...
In order to prevent big problems on Balkans in future, Serbs must be given some piece of justice. All of this seen in past twenty years, with no exceptions, was just pure force.
It is good that it seems there is place for friendship between Jews and Serbs. History and problematics are not the same, but Serbs can learn a lot. I don't like making friends based on common enemy. It is actually not a friendship. No need for it.
Serbs and Jews can become friends because those are both small nations (12 and probably 14-15 milions) who have big problems, history of being victims of genocide and hate...




I am very happy to hear about good cooperation between Serbian and Israeli governments, in intelligence and military experiences exchange. Also, Israeli companies are very active on Serbian market, there is space for lots of Serbian companies on Israeli market (our countries are not so far away)...and I am very proud to be among very few of those who came to Israel from a country where antisemitism and Nazism are not big as they in almost whole modern world are. Just after I came to Israel, Serbia has shown to all the world how Nazis should be treated. By public beating and transferring to prison and court.

OK...to make this post hit the topic:


Save Serbia from home, and by being best possible in your job, by being a good friend and a good neighbor, by being a good parent, by educating yourself and your kids. Good effect is guaranteed.



Thank you dear friend.You are absolutely right.May G-d bless you.
Wish you all best. :)
« Last Edit: November 15, 2007, 05:58:20 PM by Lamed »
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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2007, 10:49:41 AM »
That man is Vojislav Seselj, I had a long discussion with my father the other day and we talked about the future of Serbia.
Btw, Seselj is finally being prosecuted. Seselj is actually a friend of my fathers which i found to be awesome. They are not passerby friends but real friends. On one occasion Seselj dragged my father out of his car in Knin to hug him. Anyway Seselj is not a greedy man, he is not interested in money in any way and just that is a huuuuuuuuuuuge improvement to those other [censored] we had as presidents.

For those who didn't see the process he said "I wish that the tribunal had a death sentence so that my nationalistic ideology would be immortal".

When that man comes out of the hague, vote for him.

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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2007, 11:14:13 AM »
Welcome to the forum Ogi!  O0

Offline Srbin

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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2007, 11:59:14 AM »
That man is Vojislav Seselj, I had a long discussion with my father the other day and we talked about the future of Serbia.
Btw, Seselj is finally being prosecuted. Seselj is actually a friend of my fathers which i found to be awesome. They are not passerby friends but real friends. On one occasion Seselj dragged my father out of his car in Knin to hug him. Anyway Seselj is not a greedy man, he is not interested in money in any way and just that is a huuuuuuuuuuuge improvement to those other morons we had as presidents.

For those who didn't see the process he said "I wish that the tribunal had a death sentence so that my nationalistic ideology would be immortal".

When that man comes out of the hague, vote for him.

Nice  O0
Бог нам помого. Али богами Срби изгледа да нећемо нигде стићи ако се не зложимо. Не смемо заборавити да;

Само Слога Србина Спашава!!!

Али морамо да верујемо у Бога!!!

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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2007, 06:39:24 PM »
That man is Vojislav Seselj, I had a long discussion with my father the other day and we talked about the future of Serbia.
Btw, Seselj is finally being prosecuted. Seselj is actually a friend of my fathers which i found to be awesome. They are not passerby friends but real friends. On one occasion Seselj dragged my father out of his car in Knin to hug him. Anyway Seselj is not a greedy man, he is not interested in money in any way and just that is a huuuuuuuuuuuge improvement to those other morons we had as presidents.

For those who didn't see the process he said "I wish that the tribunal had a death sentence so that my nationalistic ideology would be immortal".

When that man comes out of the hague, vote for him.
I know, if you go to his house in Batajnica you would never think it is a house of the politician 8;)
Serbia will never surrender Kosovo to the breakaway province's ethnic Albanian majority or trade its territory for European Union or NATO membership,

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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2007, 04:08:18 PM »
Hello from me !!! If I was in place Slobodan Milosevic I will kill my self, until to watch operation Oluja, haw Ustse kill our serbians people in Srpska kraina, and Republic Srpska, he most sent All army to help, until to wait All World to bomb us in 1998 !!! question on time when NATO will attack us !!! For Voislav Sheselj, went my country Macedonia separate from Yugoslavia, delegation of Serb whit  my uncle, visited him and ask him what   should do, he only tell : "Watch your houses  !" Radical for me are strange for me because, they not support our King Aleksandra II ! Serbia can be better place to live if we be Kingdom again !!! CCCC !!!

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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2007, 04:33:45 PM »
Save Serbia,
like this:



 :) :) :)
"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Save Serbia, HOW?
« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2007, 10:18:14 PM »