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Offline dhimmi_pride

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Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« on: November 07, 2007, 12:07:05 PM »

Did not see this one coming.

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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2007, 01:25:57 PM »
I am suprised but Pat Robertson is a Fundementalist and since Rudy is Liberal on national affairs but very pro Israel like Pat Robertson i'm not so suprised
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2007, 03:09:17 PM »
I am surprised.

And disgusted.
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2007, 03:59:22 PM »
Quote from: Raphael on November 07, 2007, 03:09:17 PM
I am surprised.

And disgusted.
I am not surprised. He was is wrong about Jesus being the Messiah,  he could be wrong in other area's too.
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2007, 04:23:46 PM »
Pat is supporting the antithesis of what Christianity stands for.  Abortion, homosexual "rights", divorces upon divorces.  Do we even have to go through Rudy's political liberalism?  He once said: "Bill Clinton's policies...are very similar to my own."

Like I said.  Surprised and disgusted.
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2007, 05:43:22 PM »
Also, all Boston Red Sox fans are also supporting Rudy!
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2007, 05:54:35 PM »
Quote from: Raphael on November 07, 2007, 04:23:46 PM
Pat is supporting the antithesis of what Christianity stands for.  Abortion, homosexual "rights", divorces upon divorces.  Do we even have to go through Rudy's political liberalism?  He once said: "Bill Clinton's policies...are very similar to my own."

Like I said.  Surprised and disgusted.

Actually Giuliani said that if made President, he would nominate a conservative like a Scalia or a Thomas to the Supreme Court who opposes Roe v. Wade.  This is pretty much the same as any Republican nominee would do, so practically there would be little difference between what Giuliani or any other Republican candidate would do.   

I'm happy that Robertson supports Giuliani, he needs all the support from evangelical Christians he can get!
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2007, 07:18:26 PM »
Quote from: Ze'ev Jabotinsky on November 07, 2007, 05:54:35 PM
Quote from: Raphael on November 07, 2007, 04:23:46 PM
Pat is supporting the antithesis of what Christianity stands for.  Abortion, homosexual "rights", divorces upon divorces.  Do we even have to go through Rudy's political liberalism?  He once said: "Bill Clinton's policies...are very similar to my own."

Like I said.  Surprised and disgusted.

Actually Giuliani said that if made President, he would nominate a conservative like a Scalia or a Thomas to the Supreme Court who opposes Roe v. Wade.  This is pretty much the same as any Republican nominee would do, so practically there would be little difference between what Giuliani or any other Republican candidate would do.   

I'm happy that Robertson supports Giuliani, he needs all the support from evangelical Christians he can get!

He is lying.

Ronald Reagan gave us Anthony Kennedy.  He gave us Sandra Day O'Conner.  Giuliani, of all people, would give us better?  Spare me.  He's using the judge card as an excuse.

Evangelical Christian leaders, Talk Radio hosts, and Conservative Columinsts would be better in supporting Duncan Hunter.  He would attract not only Conservative Republicans but REAGAN DEMOCRATS that the Democrat Party stole from the Republicans in 2006.

After all, what do they have to lose from supporting Hunter?  Nothing.
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2007, 08:44:52 PM »
The president of Bob Jones University is endorsing Romney. 
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2007, 08:48:06 PM »
I understand the world of politics, I think this endorsement is not much for Rudy himself but the best shot on defeating Hillary,  thats the main goal to keep her out.
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2007, 10:11:38 PM »
Pat Robertson realizes that the most important issue for the US is dealing with terrorism, and Robertson sees a good commander-in-chief in Guliani.

Guiliani has already proved to be a great leader. Look how he lead the NYPD during his two terms as mayor.

America has a good chance at surviving with Guiliani in office.
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2007, 10:17:05 PM »
Why would you think that Giuliani is lying?  He seems to have a pretty solid track record of honesty.  I actually believe him when he says he'll nominate a conservative to the Supreme Court.
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2007, 10:24:07 PM »
Quote from: Ze'ev Jabotinsky on November 07, 2007, 10:17:05 PM
Why would you think that Giuliani is lying?  He seems to have a pretty solid track record of honesty.  I actually believe him when he says he'll nominate a conservative to the Supreme Court.
He is honest. As mayor he never lied once. He did some things that I'm not too happy about like infringing on New York City's constitutional rights, but overall, he was an effective mayor. He led the NYPD to great success and crime dropped at an astonishing rate. He also cleaned up Time Square, ridding it of pornography and hookers, prior to this, New York City was know as the porn capital of the US. No candidate can say they've saved a state like Guliani.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2007, 10:34:26 PM »
My number one issue in this campaign year is keeping both America and Israel safe from Muslim terrorist threats praticularly Iran.  We MUST defeat Hillary at all cost and if Rudy is nominated I will support him.  I can not sit back and allow Hillary to march into the whitehouse.  I can not put the safety of our country or the lives of our soldiers in her hands. I can not put the survival of Israel in her hands either.
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #14 on: November 08, 2007, 12:06:16 AM »
The "conservative" senator Sam Brownback is supporting McCain.  I don't consider Brownback to be as conservative as some claim him to be so I don't find it surprising that he's endorsing McCain.
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #15 on: November 08, 2007, 12:51:11 AM »


Rudy wont give us conservative judges.  Of all his 75 judicial appointments while he was Mayor of New York, Democrats outnumbered Republicans by more than eight to one!

I just don't get it.  I can imagine voting for him as a last resort against Hillary.  Why is he being endorsed for the primaries?!  Don't vote for the candidate who has "electability" but is a Democrat with an "R" next to his name!  Vote for conservatism!
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2007, 01:20:00 AM »
Quote from: Raphael on November 08, 2007, 12:51:11 AM


Rudy wont give us conservative judges.  Of all his 75 judicial appointments while he was Mayor of New York, Democrats outnumbered Republicans by more than eight to one!

I just don't get it.  I can imagine voting for him as a last resort against Hillary.  Why is he being endorsed for the primaries?!  Don't vote for the candidate who has "electability" but is a Democrat with an "R" next to his name!  Vote for conservatism!
I have never been a great fan of Pat Robertson however what he is doing is the right thing unless he wants to see Hitlery in the White House for at least four years. If they don't get behind Rudy now one of the weaker candidates will win the primaries and then loose to Hitlery in the general elections. As much as I really would not care to have Rudy as president the thoughts that one of the democraps would be our next president is something that causes me to have bad dreams. Half a loaf is better then no loaf so I guess this is what has caused Robertson to make his endorsement.
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2007, 02:19:16 AM »
Pat Robertson endorsed Rudy because of his stance on Islamic terrorism. Pat Robertson hates Islam and tells the truth about this sick perverted religion. He says there are simply bigger issues then abortion in this day in age where people are coming over here just to kill us. Life is important but not only because we need to be here to support Israel but in regards to Abortion Rudy would appoint judges that are Pro Life. Judges like Roberts or Alito. Rudy is the most electable of all the Republicans like him or not. And the Judge that he would appoint the judge to over turn Roe Vs. Wade as well it should be.
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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2007, 02:25:50 AM »
If Rudy does for the US what he did for NYC, how can it be bad?
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2007, 02:29:10 AM »
I never said it would be bad.
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« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2007, 02:30:04 AM »
Quote from: jtfrudy08 on November 08, 2007, 02:29:10 AM
I never said it would be bad.

I wasn't talking to you.
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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2007, 02:30:44 AM »
Oh sorry
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Re: Pat Robertson endorses Rudy
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2007, 02:57:41 AM »
Quote from: Raphael on November 07, 2007, 07:18:26 PM


He is lying.

Ronald Reagan gave us Anthony Kennedy.  He gave us Sandra Day O'Conner.  Giuliani, of all people, would give us better?  Spare me.  He's using the judge card as an excuse.

Evangelical Christian leaders, Talk Radio hosts, and Conservative Columinsts would be better in supporting Duncan Hunter.  He would attract not only Conservative Republicans but REAGAN DEMOCRATS that the Democrat Party stole from the Republicans in 2006.

After all, what do they have to lose from supporting Hunter?  Nothing.
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« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2007, 10:51:39 AM »

Can someone please explain to me why Rudy has this reputation as being tough on terror? What steps did he take during his administration to stop the Islamization of nyc? He did nothing against the Al-Farooq mosque and basically allowed jihadists to operate and fundraise openly in the city. But what really got me was this exchange with Ron Paul during the Fox News debate about 9/11: http://youtube.com/watch?v=xKITUOl0NBc

Ron Paul basically says that the US invited 9/11. And how does Rudy 'the tough guy on terror' Giuliani's respond: "thats absurd I lived through 9/11...tell us you didn't really mean that."  He had no argument whatsoever against Paul. I don't think that he has anywhere near the knowledge of Islam and the Middle East that people seem to have the impression of. He is a lightweight. And don't forget Bernard Kerik-that crimminal and moronic yes man that he managed to get a job as Interim Minister of Interior of Iraq and nearly Secretary of Homeland Security. That just scares me. 

Yes New York City greatly improved during his administration but the people who really deserve the credit for that are his police commissioners who came up with the anti-crime programs that made the city safer. I think crime could have gone down even further if Rudy had actually paid the NYPD a decent salary.
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« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2007, 11:35:35 AM »
Quote from: Scriabin on November 08, 2007, 02:25:50 AM
If Rudy does for the US what he did for NYC, how can it be bad?

Yes. But the polls show he will lose badly to Hillary. So we should really be supporting Mike Huckabby who I understand is now 3rd in the primaries and has a real chance to beat Hillary.
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