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Uziyahu:
"Caesar's Messiah", by Joseph Atwill, will make you darn angry.

You thought the Holocaust was bad?  Read "Caesar's Messiah" to see how Vespasian became "the Heavenly Father" and his son, Titus, "the Son (of G-d)" in the Christian scriptures.

Atwill's assertions make sense, and demonstrate how the Flavian family sought to finish off the destruction of the Jewish people by destroying their religion by means of their forged Christian myth.

I've been studying the "New Testament" seriously since 1989, and to be quite frank, I know few people who understand it as well as I do.  About a year ago I started reading Flavius Josephus' "The Wars of the Jews" and "The Antiquities of the Jews".

Atwill demonstrates how the Christian scriptures were written as a companion to Flavius Josephus' "The Wars of the Jews".  Only by reading the "scripture" alongside the "history", intertextually, does the antisemitic and genocidal prank the Romans played on the Jewish people (and the many gentiles who have embraced the Christian myth) become CLEARLY apparent.

yeshuadisciple:
Interesting, but if the Roman Emperors concocted Christianity, why did they murder as many as 6 million Christians over 3 centuries because they were a danger to Rome's authority.  Christians refused to say Caesar is Lord and toss some incense into a flame; they would then be executed; the only Lord they knew was God and his Son Yeshua.  Seems like the really screwed up if they wanted their Christian "myth" to promote Emperor worship.  Most of the early adherents of Christianity were Jews so that is really a stretch, worshiping anyone but God would be anathema to them.   This author will end up on the dust bin of history along with the many, many enemies of Christianity and Christianity will continue to march on. 


--- Quote ---1Why are (A)the nations in an uproar
         And the peoples (B)devising a vain thing?
      2The (C)kings of the earth take their stand
         And the rulers take counsel together
         (D)Against the LORD and against His [a](E)Anointed, saying,
      3"Let us (F)tear their fetters apart
         And cast away their cords from us!"
      4He who sits in the heavens (G)laughs,
         The Lord (H)scoffs at them.
      5Then He will speak to them in His (I)anger
         And (J)terrify them in His fury, saying,
      6"But as for Me, I have installed (K)My King
         Upon Zion, (L)My holy mountain."
      7"I will surely tell of the decree of the LORD:
         He said to Me, 'You are (M)My Son,
         Today I have begotten You.
      8'Ask of Me, and (N)I will surely give (O)the nations as Your inheritance,
         And the very (P)ends of the earth as Your possession.
      9'You shall [c](Q)break them with a rod of iron,
         You shall (R)shatter them like earthenware.'"
      10Now therefore, O kings, (S)show discernment;
         Take warning, O [d]judges of the earth.
      11Worship the LORD with (T)reverence
         And rejoice with (U)trembling.
      12Do homage to (V)the Son, that He not become angry, and you perish in the way,
         For (W)His wrath may [e]soon be kindled
         How blessed are all who (X)take refuge in Him!
--- End quote ---

It seems that the idea of the Son of God existed back in 1000 BC.  David certainly never ruled to the very ends of the earth. 

Christian Zionist:
Just because New Testament events are mentioned in secular history it does not mean the New Testament was written to compliment them.



For example:

2 Kings 2:11 And Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.

Gen. 5:24 Enoch walked with God; then he was no more, because God took him away

There are numerous incidents similar to Elijah and Enoch ascending to heaven are mentioned in the Hindu scriptures (Hindu deities ascending to heaven in fiery chariots).
That does not mean the Tanak writers borrowed materials from Eastern religions.

Noah's flood incident is also reported in various pagen documents.  Does it make the Torah account of Noah's flood a pagan concept?

There are various events mentioned in the Tanak which are also found in different secular sources and even in pagan scriptures.  Another example is the code of Hammurabi, the Amortie King. 

Christians never discredit the Tanak just because some Tanak events are also mentioned in pagan documents.

Raulmarrio2000:
I honestly don't believe the NT was forged by pagan Romans. But I had always believed that the Romans who abolished Semicha were pagan. Yesterday I learned that they had already converted to Christianity. Just another attack to Judaism in Christian history. The lack of Semicha is the cause there is still no recognised Sanhedrim. I hope Rambam's opinion is right and the New Sanhedrin can work and save Israel.

Christian Zionist:
The term New Testament / New Covenant itself was borrowed from the Tanak - Jeremiah 31:31.

I would not slander the writers of the Talmud just because I disagree with the message of the Talmud.

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