Shaker Assem (Hizb ut-Tahrir) is interviewed by Jürgen Apfel (German Nazi Party)

[Ulli]

Maybe someone will start a new party.

We try this a lot of times, but it's not easy in Germany. Because of our History...

When we try to start a new party the left-people always tells us nazi. That's a big problem....

When you are righteous you can stand straight.

But I think I know what you want to say. You will pay for the positions of JTF with your civil existence.

This is a fact.

Even Jews have great problems in Germany, when they oppose Islam in publicity. Ralph Giordano and Henry M. Broder are heavily under attack.

I give you a tip: Go to www.jtf.org and read the plan with the seven points. Try to bring this points in the discussion.

I do. You have to convince people.

But sometimes I would live in another country, which is free.