Serbian Nazis

[Husar]

i think he didn't know what he wrote.

Yeah...just one MORE
that didn't know what
to write........

 

[SerbChicago]

 

[SerbChicago]

TheTruth01 is banned.

thank you.expect more of them

[Joe Schmo]

TheTruth01 is banned.

Why?

[Husar]

TheTruth01 is banned.

Why?

He insults Serbs.
"Serbian Nazis" is not a "debating" title !!!
What about "Jews are Nazis" ?
Would you tolerate it ?

For me, it's a sufficient reason enough...

Still, I'm glad not having
asked for ITS banishment.

I would have been
kicked out of this forum.

We Serbs have to tolerate
NAZICROAT INSULTS quietly...

 

[Joe Schmo]

TheTruth01 is banned.

Why?

I'm glad not having
asked for ITS banishment.

I would have been
kicked out of this forum.

We Serbs have to tolerate
NAZICROAT INSULTS quietly...

Must you always overreact?

[AussieJTFer]

I understand Husar's anger, it's like when Zionists and Israel get called the new "nazis", it is offensive and the people who do it should be shot.

[Lamed]

Was Husar banned or what?
He doesn't posting anything for like more than a day.

[serbian army]

The first experiments in mass executions of camp inmates by poison gas were carried out in Serbia. Serbia was the first country to proudly declare itself \"Judenfrei\" (\"cleansed\" of Jews).

In August 1942, Dr. Harald Turner (the chief of the German civil administration in Serbia) announced that Serbia was the only country in which the \"Jewish question\" was solved and that Belgrade was the \"first city of a New Europe to be Judenfrei.\" Turner himself attributed this success to Serbian help.

The fight against the Jewish influence had actually started six months before the German invasion when the government of Serbia issued legislation restricting Jewish participation in the economy and university enrolment.

\"The Serbian chetniks of Draza Mihailovic were represented as fighters against the occupier, while in fact they were the allies of the Nazi fascists in Yugoslavia....The documents in this collection indicate clearly and unequivocally that the Chetniks collaborated with the occupiers, both in the military and political sphere, as well as in the domain of economic activity, intelligence and propaganda... (source: the Serbian scholars, Dr. Jovan Marjanovic & Mihail Stanisic, The collaboration of Draza Mihailovic\'s Chetniks with the enemy forces of occupation, 1976.)

Below is an account about how the Serbs were Nazis before there were Nazis-

Soon after a Serbian insurrection against Turkish rule in 1804, Jews were expelled from the interior of Serbia and prohibited from residing outside of Belgrade. In 1856 and 1861, Jews were further prohibited from travel for the purpose of trade. In official correspondence from the late 19th century, British diplomats detailed the cruel treatment of the Jews of Serbia, which they attributed to religious fanaticism, commercial rivalries, and the belief that Jews were the secret agents of the Turks. Article 23 of the Serbian constitution granted equality to every citizen but Article 132 forbade Jews the right of domicile. The Treaty of Berlin 1878, which formally established the Serbian state, accorded political and civil equality to the Jews of Serbia, but the Serbian Parliament resisted abolishing restrictive decrees for another 11 years.

Fully six months before the Nazi invasion of Yugoslavia, Serbia had issued legislation restricting Jewish participation in the economy and university enrolment. One year later on 22 October 1941, the rabidly antisemitic \"Grand Anti-Masonic Exhibit\" opened in occupied Belgrade, funded by the city of Belgrade. The central theme was an alleged Jewish-Communist-Masonic plot for world domination. Newspapers such as Obnova (Renewal) and Nasa Borba (Our Struggle) praised this exhibit, proclaiming that Jews were the ancient enemies of the Serbian people and that Serbs should not wait for the Germans to begin the extermination of the Jews. A few months later, Serbian authorities issued postage stamps (see picture bellow) commemorating the opening of this popular exhibit. These stamps, which juxtaposed Jewish and Serbian symbols, portrayed Judaism as the source of world evil and advocated the humiliation and violent subjugation of Jews.

Although the Serbian version of history portrays wartime Serbia as a helpless, occupied territory, Serbian newspapers of the period offer a portrait of intensive collaboration. In November 1941, Mihajlo Olcan, a minister in Nedic\'s government boasted that \"Serbia has been allowed what no other occupied country has been allowed and that is to establish law and order with its own armed forces\". Indeed, with Nazi blessings, Nedic established the Serbian State Guard, numbering about 20,000, compared to the 3,400 German police in Serbia. Recruiting advertisements for the Serb police force specified that \"applicants must have no Jewish or Gypsy blood\". Nedic\'s second in command was Dimitrije Ljotic, founder of the Serbian Fascist Party and the principal Fascist ideologist of Serbia. Ljotic organized the Serbian Volunteers Corps, whose primary function was rounding up Jews, Bosniaks, Gypsies, and partisans for execution. Serbian citizens and police received cash bounties for the capture and delivery of Jews.

The Serbian Orthodox Church openly collaborated with the Nazis, and many priests publicly defended the persecution of the Jews. On 13 August 1941, approximately 500 distinguished Serbs signed \"An Appeal to the Serbian Nation\", which called for loyalty to the occupying Nazis. The first three signers were bishops of the Serbian Orthodox Church. On 30 January 1942, Metropolitan Josif, the acting head of the Holy Synod of the Serbian Orthodox Church, officially prohibited conversions of Jews to Serbian Orthodoxy, thereby blocking a means of saving Jewish lives. At a public rally, after the government Minister Olcan \"thanked G-d that the enormously powerful fist of Germany had not come down upon the head of the Serbian nation\" but instead \"upon the heads of the Jews in our midst\", the speaker of these words was then blessed by a high-ranking Serbian Orthodox priest

please all pay attention to this details

Serbia was the first country to proudly declare itself \"Judenfrei\" (\"cleansed\" of Jews).

In August 1942, Dr. Harald Turner (the chief of the German civil administration in Serbia) announced that Serbia was the only country in which the \"Jewish question\" was solved and that Belgrade was the \"first city of a New Europe to be Judenfrei

  So German occupier said it so your statment is false at early beggining of this text

The fight against the Jewish influence had actually started six months before the German invasion when the government of Serbia issued legislation restricting Jewish participation in the economy and university enrolment.

read this

A great humanitarian action began in September of 1940, when the heroic citizens of Sabac, Serbia saved 1300 Jews from Germany, Austria, and Hungary.These Jews were crammed onto barges sailing down the Danube River in order to escape the Nazis via the Black Sea to Eretz Yisrael. After the barges were turned away from the Bulgarian border, the Jews went up the Sava River to the town of Sabac in Serbia. The Mayor of Sabac, Dr. Miodrag Petrovic, ordered the passengers to disembark. They did so and were immediately housed and cared for by Dr. Petrovic and the citizens of Sabac. A book about this great humanitarian effort and the humanity of Dr. Pertrovic and the citizens of Sabac was written by Mrs. Mara Jovanovic and was re-published by the Jewish Museum in Belgrade (Zbornik, No.4, 1979).

Article: "WIR PACKEN, WIR AUSPACKEN...." (We are packing, We are unpacking). The article was translated into Hebrew by one of the Sabac survivors, Mr. Salom David.

Summary: "WIR PACKEN, WIR AUSPACKEN...."

THE STORY OF JEWISH REFUGEES PROTECTED IN SABAC, YUGOSLAVIA 1940-1941.

A group of 1300 Jewish emigrants reached the city of Sabac, Yugoslavia in September 1940. These Jews were actually emigrants from Austria, Germany, and Czechoslovakia who were trying to reach Eretz Yisrael by way of the Danube River.

In October of 1939, this transport had been stopped at Kladovo as some difficulties had to be bridged in finding a ship that would take them to Eretz Yisrael. Moreover, the Bulgarian authorities were unwilling to grant transit visas. The group had to spend the rough winter months in Kladovo on board the ships. When these ships had to leave Kladovo to resume normal commercial operation, the group was sheltered on barges. Sometime in the summer, these barges were towed upstream as far as Sabac. It was there that the desperate Jews would find refuge and kindness. The Mayor of Sabac, Dr. Miodrag Petrovic, who had always loved his many Jewish friends (his best friend was Dr. Alfred Bata-Koen), ordered the disembarking of the emigrants and called for preparations to be made for their housing. In Sabac, the emigrants were housed in private houses, the Hotel Paris, and an old mill and warehouse. The mill owner, Mr. Jakov Vukosavljevic, and the residents of Sabac took on the responsibility of making these locations suitable for the emigrants.

Until the arrival of the Germans and the Nazi occupation of Serbia in April of 1941, the Jews moved freely within Sabac. Some of them, physicians and carpenters for instance, were given a chance to work in their professions. Others made themselves useful by actively participating in the social and cultural life of Sabac. In the "Officer's Club," which had its catering premises in the Hotel Paris, the younger emigrants entertained the citizens of Sabac by performing shows. One of the songs of their show was"Wir Packen, Wir Auspacken�" But the respite from war and its casualties would not last long.

At the end of June 1941, the Germans established a camp near the River Sava and transported the Jewish emigrants in Sabac, by then numbering 1107, there. On August 2, 1941, the Jewish citizens of Sabac, numbering 63, were also taken to this camp. At this time, all the citizens of Sabac, Jews and Serbs alike, would become affected by the German atrocities to follow. Not only would the Germans kill indiscriminately, they would then forced the Jews to collect the corpses and hang them on street poles in Sabac for all to see.

Next, on September 24, the Germans made 5,000 citizens of Sabac and 1,100 Jews run as far as Klenak, 8 kilometers away. There they were all left without any food for two days and two nights. On September 26, the victims were forced to run another 23 kilometers, as far the township of Jarak. Those who fell during this run were simply killed. On September 30, the group was taken back to Sabac and again put in the concentration camp. On October 12 and 13, all the male Jewish emigrants, as well as all the Sabac Jews and Gypsies, were taken to Zasavica to be executed. As one eyewitness stated, only a few managed to escape. After the executions, only women and children remained in the Sabac camp. On January 26, 1942, one of the coldest winter days, the Germans forced the women and children to walk back to Klenak. They were then transported in cattle-cars via Ruma to the "Sajmiste" camp in Belgrade-Zemun. Those few who survived the treacherous, painful march and transport to the camp received no warmth or comfort there. Instead, they were put to death. By May of 1942, not one of these women or children remained alive.

One of the survivors of the atrocities committed against the emigrants and citizens of Sabac, was Salom David. It was he who translated this story into Hebrew, thus ensuring Jews and others will never forget the efforts made by people such as Dr. Miodrag Petrovic and the citizens of Sabac, Yugoslavia, under extreme hardship and constant fear for their own lives, to save the innocents of World War II.

This letter is dedicated to the memory of my late Grandfather, Dr. Miodrag "Mile" Petrovic (1894-1982). For his selfless help to the Jewish people he respected and loved, he was arrested by the Germans and interned in the Sajmiste concentration camp in Zemun. Somehow, he managed to escape: but, not for long. The Yugoslav Communists later got him and he was again arrested, only to escape them as well. He would not meet the fate that seemed to chase him every step of the way.

Following the end of WWII, Dr. Petrovic made it to Italy, then Belgium, and finally America. He first settled in Chicago then moved to Los Angeles where he remained. Before the War, he had been a lawyer, judge, and diplomat. He served the Kingdom of Yugoslavia as the Consul to Belgium, Switzerland, and Italy. He had many Jewish friends in the country he had left behind, his best friend being Dr. Bata Koen who was killed, as were many other Jews of Sabac. None believed the Nazis would kill them. They saw themselves as Serbs who were born in Sabac and didn't identify as being the Jews the Nazis were killing. The Nazis did not see them this way.

Once in America, Dr. Petrovic worked odd jobs, as he could not practice law not knowing English well enough, though he did speak perfect French and Italian. He mostly worked as an automechanic, his hobby while living in Serbia, and carpenter. He remained in America for the rest of his life. On February 11, 1982, Dr. Miodrag Petrovic passed away in Los Angeles, California and was buried at the Los Angeles Serbian Cemetery. He died as a hero to me and many others.

The Jewish Museum in Belgrade published in their journal the article telling of my Grandfather's heroism. They are also working hard to make a documentary film of the Jews protected and nearly saved in Sabac, Serbia. It is my hope that this film will tell the story of the Jews and the Serbs, friends and allies, in the name of those for whom that friendship and alliance meant everything.

Miodrag 'Mile' Nikolic, Grandson 
 
 

\"The Serbian chetniks of Draza Mihailovic were represented as fighters against the occupier, while in fact they were the allies of the Nazi fascists in Yugoslavia....The documents in this collection indicate clearly and unequivocally that the Chetniks collaborated with the occupiers, both in the military and political sphere, as well as in the domain of economic activity, intelligence and propaganda

and for that american president honoured draza mihailovic?



LEGION OF MERIT - CHIEF COMMANDER: General Dragoljub Mihailovich distinguished himself in an outstanding manner as Commander-in-Chief of the Yugoslavian Army Forces and later as Minister of War by Organizing and leading important resistance forces against the enemy which occupied Yugoslavia, from December 1941 to December 1944. Through the undaunted efforts of his troops, many United States airmen were rescued and returned safely to friendly control. General Mihailovich and his forces, although lacking adequate supplies, and fighting under extreme hardships, contributed materially to the Allied cause, and were instrumental in obtaining a final Allied victory. March 29, 1948. Harry S. Truman."

[Husar]

TheTruth01 is banned.

Why?

I'm glad not having
asked for ITS banishment.

I would have been
kicked out of this forum.

We Serbs have to tolerate
NAZICROAT INSULTS quietly...

Must you always overreact?

"overeact" ?!!?!!!...

(SOoo what ?!
Slavs are HOT-blooded.)

You're BLAMING me
for having a heart,
Brother.

 

What do expect exactly ?

What if the thread was entitled: "Jewish NAZIS" ?!...

 

And when Jews would, of course,
get ANGRY at this INSULTING "title",
I, as far as I am concerned, as a Serb,
WHO KNOWS WHAT "NAZIS" MEAN,
SINCE NAZIS SLAUGHTERED US,
WOULDN'T get surprised.

But here, since "only" Serbs are INSULTED
by the very "title" of this FALSE "thread",
everything is "O.K." for you ?

 

Are you heartless ?!
 

I guess one of us, Serbs,
will have to open a thread saying:
"We Serbs are Human Beings"...