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Kiwi:
--- Quote ---BTW what's wrong with going to a bar and meeting a Jewish girl?
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Absolutely nothing.
Kiwi:
--- Quote ---The fact that he only said specifically that oral sex is forbidden, leaving out anything else, it is obvious that he permits the less intimate forms of touching.
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So he should because he understands that touching does not automatically leads to sex.
newman:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on November 21, 2007, 04:11:26 PM ---I don't believe that The Rambam would permit French Kissing. That is not oral sex.
All forms of kissing can make a man horny so I'm sure Chazal forbid it.
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I think that is insulting to Jews.
Jews are the most civilised and disciplined people on earth. Jews can see naked women WITHOUT doing anything inappropriate.
It is the arab and negro who cannot control themselves or their primitive urges and resort to rape and fornication at the drop of a hat, NOT the Jew.
Tzvi Ben Roshel1:
--- Quote from: newman on November 22, 2007, 04:58:55 AM ---
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on November 21, 2007, 04:11:26 PM ---I don't believe that The Rambam would permit French Kissing. That is not oral sex.
All forms of kissing can make a man horny so I'm sure Chazal forbid it.
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I think that is insulting to Jews.
Jews are the most civilised and disciplined people on earth. Jews can see naked women WITHOUT doing anything inappropriate.
It is the arab and negro who cannot control themselves or their primitive urges and resort to rape and fornication at the drop of a hat, NOT the Jew.
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Nope, non of that is allowed. Touching isnt allowed either and I dont see how some here justify the Rambam or any another Rav justifying it. If someone like the Rambam would have been alive today he would probably concider many of todays Tzniut standards to be immodest. I dont have the source but I do even think that Rambam agreed to the style of the muslim women (I know people are going to start bashing now,, ::) ), but you should see that this isnt a joke. I was at a Shiur last night and the Rav brought examples from the Gemorah where a great Rav whos every word was fullfilled told his daughter to go back to the sand (disintegrate), just because a guy made a hole in his fence in order to look at her (even where she was fully dressed). - (the Shiur will be up soon, on http://kolyakov.org/ - Rabbi Daniel Kohen) hear it to understand the whole message- its not up right now, but he did say that he will request that they put that one up quicky.
jdl4ever:
I put the Rambam up here for all of you to see what he says and he clearly permits touching. Your only response is "I can't believe he really says that and I got some story my Rabbi told me". Well, that is not Torah. Read the Rambam I posted and see what he says with your own eyes. I rest my case. Now you believe that if you look at a Jewish girl, she deserves death? Talk about distorting the Torah and going way beyond what the Torah commanded. I wouldn't go any where near any of these Rabbis who say such lies. And the Rambam wasn't the one who complemented Muslim dress, it was a different Sephardic commentary.
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