Dr. Baruch Goldstein

[Ralph1]

When Dr. Baruch Goldstein massacred Arabs why did he expose himself to the Arabs? They ended up beating him to death because of that. He could have snipped them instead. Is it possible he was suicidal and if he were should he be praised? I don't think there is anything wrong with sacrificing your life for a cause but since Judaism forbids suicide should religious Jews view him as a hero?

[Lewinsky Stinks, Dr. Brennan Rocks]

Dr. Baruch Goldstein (zt"l) was a hero and a saint--end of story. No, he did not intend to commit suicide, but he was willing to sacrifice his life to save fellow Jews from an impending terrorist attack, which makes him the noblest kind of human imaginable.

[The Shadow]

It would have been better for him to bomb the place. 

[newman]

May the name and memory of this saint be immortalised.

[Dexter]

What Baruch Goldstein did was a stupid act, period.
A. Killing 29 Arabs won't give us a thing but hatred for the Right wing.
B. Killing 29 Arabs, umm..I'm sorry, Muslim Jews (the Arabs of Hebron are actually Jews dencents who converted to Islam) who were probably innocent is evil thing to do.
C. Because of his "brave" action Kach was outlawed.

[newman]

What Baruch Goldstein did was a stupid act, period.
A. Killing 29 Arabs won't give us a thing but hatred for the Right wing.
B. Killing 29 Arabs, umm..I'm sorry, Muslim Jews (the Arabs of Hebron are actually Jews dencents who converted to Islam) who were probably innocent is evil thing to do.
C. Because of his "brave" action Kach was outlawed.

A. The right will be hated no matter what.
B. Even if their ancestors were Jewish, those creatures are NO LONGER Jewish.
C. Dr Goldstein's actions made no difference. Kach would have been outlawed as ALL opposition is outlawed by the Knesset Kapos. The Goldstein incident was just the excuse.

[Dexter]

What Baruch Goldstein did was a stupid act, period.
A. Killing 29 Arabs won't give us a thing but hatred for the Right wing.
B. Killing 29 Arabs, umm..I'm sorry, Muslim Jews (the Arabs of Hebron are actually Jews dencents who converted to Islam) who were probably innocent is evil thing to do.
C. Because of his "brave" action Kach was outlawed.

A. The right will be hated no matter what.
B. Even if their ancestors were Jewish, those creatures are NO LONGER Jewish.
C. Dr Goldstein's actions made no difference. Kach would have been outlawed as ALL opposition is outlawed by the Knesset Kapos. The Goldstein incident was just the excuse.

A. Wrong, before that the right wing have a lot of support.
B. Sure they are, religion and nationality are diffrent things.
C. Yes he did, you are assuming assumptions that are BS. Before that, as I said, there were a lot of support for Kach and if it was outlawed just by that there were a lot of demonstrations and acts against the goverment.

[newman]

What Baruch Goldstein did was a stupid act, period.
A. Killing 29 Arabs won't give us a thing but hatred for the Right wing.
B. Killing 29 Arabs, umm..I'm sorry, Muslim Jews (the Arabs of Hebron are actually Jews dencents who converted to Islam) who were probably innocent is evil thing to do.
C. Because of his "brave" action Kach was outlawed.

A. The right will be hated no matter what.
B. Even if their ancestors were Jewish, those creatures are NO LONGER Jewish.
C. Dr Goldstein's actions made no difference. Kach would have been outlawed as ALL opposition is outlawed by the Knesset Kapos. The Goldstein incident was just the excuse.

A. Wrong, before that the right wing have a lot of support.
B. Sure they are, religion and nationality are diffrent things.
C. Yes he did, you are assuming assumptions that are BS. Before that, as I said, there were a lot of support for Kach and if it was outlawed just by that there were a lot of demonstrations and acts against the goverment.

Dexter. The Jews of Hebron were centuries ago. Since then, their descendants have married Lord knows who. Nobody can be Jewish without a Jewish mother. It is impossible that the Hebron Jews had ALL Jewish descended wives over hundreds of years.

It's like Chaim says about the lost tribes. Even if it was proved that the English descended from a lost tribe, they're no longer Jewish.

[Dexter]

What Baruch Goldstein did was a stupid act, period.
A. Killing 29 Arabs won't give us a thing but hatred for the Right wing.
B. Killing 29 Arabs, umm..I'm sorry, Muslim Jews (the Arabs of Hebron are actually Jews dencents who converted to Islam) who were probably innocent is evil thing to do.
C. Because of his "brave" action Kach was outlawed.

A. The right will be hated no matter what.
B. Even if their ancestors were Jewish, those creatures are NO LONGER Jewish.
C. Dr Goldstein's actions made no difference. Kach would have been outlawed as ALL opposition is outlawed by the Knesset Kapos. The Goldstein incident was just the excuse.

A. Wrong, before that the right wing have a lot of support.
B. Sure they are, religion and nationality are diffrent things.
C. Yes he did, you are assuming assumptions that are BS. Before that, as I said, there were a lot of support for Kach and if it was outlawed just by that there were a lot of demonstrations and acts against the goverment.

Dexter. The Jews of Hebron were centuries ago. Since then, their descendants have married Lord knows who. Nobody can be Jewish without a Jewish mother. It is impossible that the Hebron Jews had ALL Jewish descended wives over hundreds of years.

It's like Chaim says about the lost tribes. Even if it was proved that the English descended from a lost tribe, they're no longer Jewish.

Jews are not a race, you don't have to have "Jewish blood" to say you are Jewish. But it have been proved by DNA researches that the Muslims of Hebron are Jewish, and that we, the Jewish people have much much connection to these "Sand Apes" and some of us, as I and most Mizrahi Jews just look very similar to the Arabs. And as the most your Jewish family is last mixed you'll look more like the Arabs and much less like the Europeans.

The English are not the lost tribes, it's pseudo science and it is rubbish. The fact that you take religion as a main factor for who is part of my people is sad. Because religion, if you like it and also if you don't, has lost of it's importance and it doesn't matter for most of the people. I consider people to Jews if they consider themselves as Jews, but I also say who is Jewish ethnic origin and call him how he wants to be called.

[newman]

What Baruch Goldstein did was a stupid act, period.
A. Killing 29 Arabs won't give us a thing but hatred for the Right wing.
B. Killing 29 Arabs, umm..I'm sorry, Muslim Jews (the Arabs of Hebron are actually Jews dencents who converted to Islam) who were probably innocent is evil thing to do.
C. Because of his "brave" action Kach was outlawed.

A. The right will be hated no matter what.
B. Even if their ancestors were Jewish, those creatures are NO LONGER Jewish.
C. Dr Goldstein's actions made no difference. Kach would have been outlawed as ALL opposition is outlawed by the Knesset Kapos. The Goldstein incident was just the excuse.

A. Wrong, before that the right wing have a lot of support.
B. Sure they are, religion and nationality are diffrent things.
C. Yes he did, you are assuming assumptions that are BS. Before that, as I said, there were a lot of support for Kach and if it was outlawed just by that there were a lot of demonstrations and acts against the goverment.

Dexter. The Jews of Hebron were centuries ago. Since then, their descendants have married Lord knows who. Nobody can be Jewish without a Jewish mother. It is impossible that the Hebron Jews had ALL Jewish descended wives over hundreds of years.

It's like Chaim says about the lost tribes. Even if it was proved that the English descended from a lost tribe, they're no longer Jewish.

Jews are not a race, you don't have to have "Jewish blood" to say you are Jewish.

That's right. But you must have a Jewish mother or have a kosher conversion to be Jewish. That's hallacha. If the arabs of Hebron don't have a hallachicly approved mother, they're not Jews.

[Dexter]

What Baruch Goldstein did was a stupid act, period.
A. Killing 29 Arabs won't give us a thing but hatred for the Right wing.
B. Killing 29 Arabs, umm..I'm sorry, Muslim Jews (the Arabs of Hebron are actually Jews dencents who converted to Islam) who were probably innocent is evil thing to do.
C. Because of his "brave" action Kach was outlawed.

A. The right will be hated no matter what.
B. Even if their ancestors were Jewish, those creatures are NO LONGER Jewish.
C. Dr Goldstein's actions made no difference. Kach would have been outlawed as ALL opposition is outlawed by the Knesset Kapos. The Goldstein incident was just the excuse.

A. Wrong, before that the right wing have a lot of support.
B. Sure they are, religion and nationality are diffrent things.
C. Yes he did, you are assuming assumptions that are BS. Before that, as I said, there were a lot of support for Kach and if it was outlawed just by that there were a lot of demonstrations and acts against the goverment.

Dexter. The Jews of Hebron were centuries ago. Since then, their descendants have married Lord knows who. Nobody can be Jewish without a Jewish mother. It is impossible that the Hebron Jews had ALL Jewish descended wives over hundreds of years.

It's like Chaim says about the lost tribes. Even if it was proved that the English descended from a lost tribe, they're no longer Jewish.

Jews are not a race, you don't have to have "Jewish blood" to say you are Jewish.

That's right. But you must have a Jewish mother or have a kosher conversion to be Jewish. That's hallacha. If the arabs of Hebron don't have a hallachicly approved mother, they're not Jews.

You mean you are not Jewish in the religiouse aspect.

[newman]

What Baruch Goldstein did was a stupid act, period.
A. Killing 29 Arabs won't give us a thing but hatred for the Right wing.
B. Killing 29 Arabs, umm..I'm sorry, Muslim Jews (the Arabs of Hebron are actually Jews dencents who converted to Islam) who were probably innocent is evil thing to do.
C. Because of his "brave" action Kach was outlawed.

A. The right will be hated no matter what.
B. Even if their ancestors were Jewish, those creatures are NO LONGER Jewish.
C. Dr Goldstein's actions made no difference. Kach would have been outlawed as ALL opposition is outlawed by the Knesset Kapos. The Goldstein incident was just the excuse.

A. Wrong, before that the right wing have a lot of support.
B. Sure they are, religion and nationality are diffrent things.
C. Yes he did, you are assuming assumptions that are BS. Before that, as I said, there were a lot of support for Kach and if it was outlawed just by that there were a lot of demonstrations and acts against the goverment.

Dexter. The Jews of Hebron were centuries ago. Since then, their descendants have married Lord knows who. Nobody can be Jewish without a Jewish mother. It is impossible that the Hebron Jews had ALL Jewish descended wives over hundreds of years.

It's like Chaim says about the lost tribes. Even if it was proved that the English descended from a lost tribe, they're no longer Jewish.

Jews are not a race, you don't have to have "Jewish blood" to say you are Jewish.

That's right. But you must have a Jewish mother or have a kosher conversion to be Jewish. That's hallacha. If the arabs of Hebron don't have a hallachicly approved mother, they're not Jews.

You mean you are not Jewish in the religiouse aspect.

Practicing Judaism doesn't make one Jewish. Noachides practice Judaism and they're not Jewish. A Jew can practice Hinduism and he's still a Jew.

Jews are not a race but a people. Hallacha says that a Jew is one born of a Jewish mother. If the modern day Hebron arabs have arab mothers, they're not Jews.

Ask Lubab.

[Dexter]

Noachides don't have to practice Judaism, they are Jewish acorrding to halacha only by diffrent parameters.

Try to understand that Jews are also a people, you don't have to be Jewish only because you converted to Judaism or born Jewish as you don't have to born to Brits to be british or english.

[newman]

Noachides don't have to practice Judaism, they are Jewish acorrding to halacha only by diffrent parameters.

Try to understand that Jews are also a people, you don't have to be Jewish only because you converted to Judaism or born Jewish as you don't have to born to Brits to be british or english.

Who is a Jew?
A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.

It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship. See What Is Judaism?

 http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm

[newman]

Noachides don't have to practice Judaism, they are Jewish acorrding to halacha only by diffrent parameters.

Try to understand that Jews are also a people, you don't have to be Jewish only because you converted to Judaism or born Jewish as you don't have to born to Brits to be british or english.

Noachides are NOT Jews. Their mothers are not Jews and they don't descend from Abraham, Issaac and Jacob. They are righteous gentiles or b'nei Noach. You can't be Jew AND gentile at the same time.

Yes, Jews are a people, but the definition is:

"A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.


It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship. See What Is Judaism? "

[mord]

Killing 29 Arabs, umm..I'm sorry, Muslim Jews (the Arabs of Hebron are actually Jews dencents who converted to Islam) who were probably innocent is evil thing to do.

  This part is true they were Jews from Yemen [taman] who become moslems before coming to Eretz Yisroel .But they converted hundreds of yrs ago of their own free will in any event they are full blown moslems who hate Jews now.Also they knew these'Jews' were storing guns to kill the Real Jews on   Purim this was a a defensive action by the great Tzadik Dr. Baruch Goldstien HASHEM YIMKO DAMO [MAY G-D AVENGE HIS BLOOD]

[newman]

Killing 29 Arabs, umm..I'm sorry, Muslim Jews (the Arabs of Hebron are actually Jews dencents who converted to Islam) who were probably innocent is evil thing to do.

  This part is true they were Jews from Yemen [taman] who become moslems before coming to Eretz Yisroel .But they converted hundreds of yrs ago of their own free will in any event they are full blown moslems who hate Jews now.Also they knew these'Jews' were storing guns to kill the Real Jews on   Purim this was a a defensive action by the great Tzadik Dr. Baruch Goldstien HASHEM LIMKON DAMO [MAY G-D AVENGE HIS BLOOD]

It's like Adam Shapiro. He's a Jew but he's married an arab whore and now his children and all their descendants will NOT be Jews. No big loss.

[mord]

Killing 29 Arabs, umm..I'm sorry, Muslim Jews (the Arabs of Hebron are actually Jews dencents who converted to Islam) who were probably innocent is evil thing to do.

  This part is true they were Jews from Yemen [taman] who become moslems before coming to Eretz Yisroel .But they converted hundreds of yrs ago of their own free will in any event they are full blown moslems who hate Jews now.Also they knew these'Jews' were storing guns to kill the Real Jews on   Purim this was a a defensive action by the great Tzadik Dr. Baruch Goldstien HASHEM LIMKON DAMO [MAY G-D AVENGE HIS BLOOD]

It's like Adam Shapiro. He's a Jew but he's married an arab whore and now his children and all their descendants will NOT be Jews. No big loss.

Exactlly true that was a good example

[Dexter]

Noachides don't have to practice Judaism, they are Jewish acorrding to halacha only by diffrent parameters.

Try to understand that Jews are also a people, you don't have to be Jewish only because you converted to Judaism or born Jewish as you don't have to born to Brits to be british or english.

Noachides are NOT Jews. Their mothers are not Jews and they don't descend from Abraham, Issaac and Jacob. They are righteous gentiles or b'nei Noach. You can't be Jew AND gentile at the same time.

Yes, Jews are a people, but the definition is:

"A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism.


It is important to note that being a Jew has nothing to do with what you believe or what you do. A person born to non-Jewish parents who has not undergone the formal process of conversion but who believes everything that Orthodox Jews believe and observes every law and custom of Judaism is still a non-Jew, even in the eyes of the most liberal movements of Judaism, and a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox. In this sense, Judaism is more like a nationality than like other religions, and being Jewish is like a citizenship. See What Is Judaism? "

I can consider Noachides to be Jewish (Judeans) if they will live here, work here and do what everyone who lives here does. End of discussion.

mord- Most of Yemenite Jews (75%) are Arabs who believe in the Jewish religion. Actually, they, and only they, have the right to call themselves "Arab Jews".

And newman, nothing is bad by having Arab blood. It is possible that most or some Australians have blood of criminals because Australia was originally an Island for criminals, so what ?

[newman]

I can consider Noachides to be Jewish (Judeans) if they will live here, work here and do what everyone who lives here does. End of discussion.

You can't. If they have citizenship they are 'Israeli' gentiles................not Israelites, Jews or Hebrews.

Jews are only:

" any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism. "

mord- Most of Yemenite Jews (75%) are Arabs who believe in the Jewish religion. Actually, they, and only they, have the right to call themselves "Arab Jews".

Correct. Arab, black, European or eskimo......"A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism."

And newman, nothing is bad by having Arab blood. It is possible that most or some Australians have blood of criminals because Australia was originally an Island for criminals, so what ?

Correct. But a gentile is a gentile no matter what his parentage (unless he's got a Jewish mother then he's a Jew).

A Jew with arab blood is still a Jew. But again.........."A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism."

Dexter,

You've done this before. You don't understand the meanings of the words.
'Israeli' is different to 'Israelite' etc.

 A resident of Judea in 2007 is not a Jew.

A Jew is B'nai Yisrael. Yes I know it originates from the Tribe of Judah, but the accepted, Rabbinical modern  meaning of Jew is "A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism."

In common speech, the word "Jew" is used to refer to all of the physical and spiritual descendants of Jacob/Israel, as well as to the patriarchs Abraham and Isaac and their wives, and the word "Judaism" is used to refer to their beliefs. Technically, this usage is inaccurate, just as it is technically inaccurate to use the word "Indian" to refer to the original inhabitants of the Americas. However, this technically inaccurate usage is common both within the Jewish community and outside of it, and is therefore used throughout this site.



Just because somebody lives in Judea in 2007 doesn't make him a Jew.

[Dexter]

You can't. If they have citizenship they are 'Israeli' gentiles................not Israelites, Jews or Hebrews.

Jews are only:

" any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism. "

There is no diffrent between Israelis and Israelites, Jews and Judeans. Judeans/Jews/Israeli/Israelites are people who live in Israel and are loyal to it. The Jewish nation is far far long time ago a citizenship's nation and not nation by religion. On that assumption Zionism was created, that's why you can be Jewish without believing in Judaism, and let's fergot for one moment Judaism keep referring you as Jewish, because you don't care or other people that try to define you don't care.

And again, End of discussion.

Correct. Arab, black, European or eskimo......"A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism."

And let's fergot that Judaism keep referring you as Jewish even if you don't believe it.

Correct. But a gentile is a gentile no matter what his parentage (unless he's got a Jewish mother then he's a Jew).

A Jew with Arab blood is still a Jew. But again.........."A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism."

Dexter,

You've done this before. You don't understand the meanings of the words.
'Israeli' is different to 'Israelite' etc.

 A resident of Judea in 2007 is not a Jew.

A Jew is B'nai Israel. Yes I know it originates from the Tribe of Judah, but the accepted, Rabbinical modern  meaning of Jew is "A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism."

In common speech, the word "Jew" is used to refer to all of the physical and spiritual descendants of Jacob/Israel, as well as to the patriarchs Abraham and Isaac and their wives, and the word "Judaism" is used to refer to their beliefs. Technically, this usage is inaccurate, just as it is technically inaccurate to use the word "Indian" to refer to the original inhabitants of the Americas. However, this technically inaccurate usage is common both within the Jewish community and outside of it, and is therefore used throughout this site.



Just because somebody lives in Judea in 2007 doesn't make him a Jew.

No, Gentile can be Jewish, or Hebrew or whatever. The term "Jewish" have dual meaning and the first meaning have nothing to do with the other one. Thus, an Arab can be Jewish, but he still be Arab by nationality, Arab can be Muslim by religion, but can be considered to Jewish by nationality.

Now, I hope that everything is solved.

[Raulmarrio2000]

The definition of who is a Jew is clear. But what about Gentiles with Israelite descent? They are Gentiles, but can they be considered invaders? Apart from Hebron, are there any other palis who may be descendants of Jews? If so, they would be not Jewish, but neither Arabs!!!!! Great problem if lots of Palis are descendant of Jews! Anyone knows??
Anyway, I think that nearly all Arabs outside Arabia, are just natives converted by force to Islam, but Palis invaded Israel in the early 20th century. They may not be real Arabs, but they have no Jewish descent either.
Before Zionism, all historians agree that Israel was nearly a desert.
Anyway it would be interesting to study the DNA, just for scientifical reasons. Not political, even an hallachically Jew can be expelled or executed if he becomes a Jew killer. Hitler was also said to have a Jewish ancestor, but he had no right to be left alive even outside Israel!!!!!!

[OdKahaneChai]

Oy Gevalt, Dexter!  Judaism isn't just a "belief."  It also has nothing to do with where you live.

Now, onto the real subject, Dr. Goldstein ZT"L, HY"D, he was not suicidal, and he saved countless Jewish lives.  A Jewish hero in the truest sense.

[Dexter]

Oy Gevalt, Dexter!  Judaism isn't just a "belief."  It also has nothing to do with where you live.

Now, onto the real subject, Dr. Goldstein ZT"L, HY"D, he was not suicidal, and he saved countless Jewish lives.  A Jewish hero in the truest sense.

Govalt 

Judaism is a belief, religion, what ever you would like to call it. I just said that a "Jew" is a Jew by nationality, Religion or both.

[newman]

You can't. If they have citizenship they are 'Israeli' gentiles................not Israelites, Jews or Hebrews.

Jews are only:

" any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism. "

There is no diffrent between Israelis and Israelites, Jews and Judeans. Judeans/Jews/Israeli/Israelites are people who live in Israel and are loyal to it. The Jewish nation is far far long time ago a citizenship's nation and not nation by religion. On that assumption Zionism was created, that's why you can be Jewish without believing in Judaism, and let's fergot for one moment Judaism keep referring you as Jewish, because you don't care or other people that try to define you don't care.

And again, End of discussion.

Correct. Arab, black, European or eskimo......"A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism."

And let's fergot that Judaism keep referring you as Jewish even if you don't believe it.

Correct. But a gentile is a gentile no matter what his parentage (unless he's got a Jewish mother then he's a Jew).

A Jew with Arab blood is still a Jew. But again.........."A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism."

Dexter,

You've done this before. You don't understand the meanings of the words.
'Israeli' is different to 'Israelite' etc.

 A resident of Judea in 2007 is not a Jew.

A Jew is B'nai Israel. Yes I know it originates from the Tribe of Judah, but the accepted, Rabbinical modern  meaning of Jew is "A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism."

In common speech, the word "Jew" is used to refer to all of the physical and spiritual descendants of Jacob/Israel, as well as to the patriarchs Abraham and Isaac and their wives, and the word "Judaism" is used to refer to their beliefs. Technically, this usage is inaccurate, just as it is technically inaccurate to use the word "Indian" to refer to the original inhabitants of the Americas. However, this technically inaccurate usage is common both within the Jewish community and outside of it, and is therefore used throughout this site.



Just because somebody lives in Judea in 2007 doesn't make him a Jew.

No, Gentile can be Jewish, or Hebrew or whatever. The term "Jewish" have dual meaning and the first meaning have nothing to do with the other one. Thus, an Arab can be Jewish, but he still be Arab by nationality, Arab can be Muslim by religion, but can be considered to Jewish by nationality.

Now, I hope that everything is solved.

Wrong wrong wrong wrong!

1/
Is·rae·li (ĭz-rā'lē)
adj.
Of or relating to modern-day Israel or its people.

n., pl. -lis.
A native or inhabitant of modern-day Israel.

2/
Noun: Israelite  'izreeu`lIt
A native or inhabitant of the ancient kingdom of Israel
 
A person belonging to the worldwide group claiming descent from Jacob (or converted to it) and connected by cultural or religious ties
- Jew, Hebrew

See..........they're different.

A gentile can't be a Jew. He can BECOME a JEW with conversion.
A gentile can't be an Israelite. He can be Israeli with citizenship in the MODERN State of Israel. (see dictionary meanings above).

 A gentile cannot be a Hebrew, Jew, Israelite, Judean without conversion. Then he's NO LONGER a gentile.