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Offline Hail Columbia

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I want to write an article about the Erased of Slovenia on the English Wikipedia, but the only two articles available on that subject are in Italian and Slovenian, and I do not understand either language.  Is there anyone who knows either language?

http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izbrisani
http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cancellati_%28Slovenia%29

Edit:

For our Serb friends, do you have any more information that can be added to this article about the Izbrisani, which is the term referred to the silent ethnic cleansing of "new minorities" in Slovenia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izbrisani
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Re: I need help translating an article for the English Wikipedia
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2007, 12:35:16 PM »
I cancellati  is the name used in the media, for a group of people in Slovenia and after the country's independence in 1991 were without legal status.

In 1991, immediately after the declaration of independence by Slovenia, the approximately 200,000 residents of Slovenia who had citizenship of other republics of former Yugoslavia (the "citizenship of the Republic" was a purely formal status, which many did not know existed since not included no legal consequence) was granted the possibility to obtain, through a simple application, the nationality of the new independent state. For those who have chosen not to avail themselves of this possibility, the law required to register as "foreign" (a term denoting legal permanent residents without citizenship). 170,000 presented the application, obtaining citizenship before the elections in 1992. Some thousands chose the second option. All that, contrary to provisioni legal, not recorded as "foreigners" were removed from the registry Permanent Residence in February 1992, losing all social rights, civil and political. This action mold purely administrative (and thus without any possibility of appeal) and that without any legal basis, struck, the second unofficial estimates, around 18,000 people, including some actual had left the country, while others were simply unaware of Providing legal that required them to confirm their status through a new application.

In 1999 the Constitutional Court dicharò the act of "erasing" illegal and unconstitutional, annulando its legal consequences. In the same year, the Slovenian Parliament promulgated a law that offered the "erased" the opportunity to regain the residence, but only to those who lived permanently in Slovenian territory. The Court Constituzionale abrogò this law as another attempt in the same direction. In 2003 the Court declared unconstitutional Providing legal 1992 that required residents with Slovenian citizenship of other Yugoslav republics of iterare demand to obtain the status of "alien", and ordered the return of the status of residents at all "erased" retroactive function (regardless of whether they actually did not live in Slovenia after 1992). Many lawyers (among other things some former members of the Constitutional Court and authors of the Constitution) harshly criticized this decision, it followed a large and lasting controversy, in which the government gradually took center positions taken of the Constitutional Court, while opposition center continued to criticarle. In February 2004, the parliamentary majority a law promulgated in accordance with the decision of the Court (which provided for the retroactive only for those who were already in possession of residence); two months later, however, this law (called "Law on technical erased" ) was annulled by a referendum (supported by the center). This referendum was strongly contested by some institutions of the European Union.

In 2007 the number of the "erased" is imprecisabile, the group is fragmented into different legal categories: some have regained residency and citizenship, some only residence, some were expelled, many of them living in Slovenia illegally. According to some estimates are still 6,000 those without legal status, while many of those who managed to get the right to permanent residency had to pay heavily the consequences of years of irregularities. The issue was brought before the European Commission, but said he does not have jurisdiction. Some of the deleted made a collective appeal to the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg, claiming that "The cancellation is a European problem, because it violates fundamental human rights provided by the EU Convention."
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Re: I need help translating an article for the English Wikipedia
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2007, 01:04:05 PM »
Thanks Dexter, the article is up!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Izbrisani


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Re: I created an article on the English Wikipedia about the Izbrisani
« Reply #3 on: November 21, 2007, 07:43:15 PM »
Upping.


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Re: I created an article on the English Wikipedia about the Izbrisani
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2007, 07:54:58 PM »
Great work, Hail Columbia.

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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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