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Re: Greetings from Germany!
« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2007, 03:46:20 PM »
Re:  "...according to them, EVERYTHING was better in the DDR..."

It is a fact of human nature, that when we look backwards we tend to remember only the positive aspects of our lives; we subconsciously repress memories of unpleasantness.

Add to that fact the terrible culture shock experienced, when slaves who from cradle to grave have had every aspect of their lives controlled and decided for them by others, are suddenly made free; expected to now function normally as individuals, not only in an unstable society where competition determines one's socio-economic status, but also in an unplanned economy in which one must make personal choices and decisions from amongst an almost endless array of market and career possibilities which present tremendous challenges, and for which they are unprepared.

I think that is a very insightful analysis and I couldn't agree more.


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« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2007, 04:28:56 PM »
Wilkommen :)

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« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2007, 08:09:57 PM »
Well, what about the xenophobia of the "Ossies"? Of course we have to differentiate between the politically correct elites and the people. The latter tend to beat strange looking foreigners up, to the hypocritical dismay of the latter, who adamantly refuse to see any connection between that specific sort of violence and that specific dictatorship, which ended, after all, only 18 years ago and may have something to do with the "no go" areas for coloureds in East Germany. But as it is, it's all "Neo-Nazi violence" a violence that came out of the blue, Neo-Nazi violence nobody dares to call post-Communist violence.

That we don't see even more of it is due to the fact that there are very few Muslims or Blacks in East Germany at all because, historically, the former GDR was friendly with the Communist countries from South East Asia, so you see a lot of East Asians here. They are hard-working (shops with horrible, cheap stuff and countless diners come to mind) and keep themselves to themselves. They are inoffensive and reasonably friendly and I have never found that people here are giving them much thought.

Another reason is that Muslims have a huge, thriving infrastructure in West Germany, so why bother with the East?

Yes, all that is sad and what is even sadder is the fact that there are places in West Germany -- no go areas -- where ethnic Germans better don't go. Places, where an unattended ethic German woman or girl better doesn't go. Places, where elderly ethnic Germans better don't go -- AND NO GERMAN MEDIUM EVER GIVES A DAMN. But here I digress from your question what East Germans think about foreigners/Muslims.

I guess the non-violent majority of Germans here just can't fathom what life in a Muslim-ruled town, city or neighbourhood is like, so they won't find them the threat they clearly are. It's not much of a topic here anyway.

To be honest, I personally, find the absence of Muslims maybe THE most redeeming quality here.


Very good quality indeed. But are the major East-German towns muslim-free?
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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« Reply #29 on: December 31, 2007, 04:20:19 AM »
Very good quality indeed. But are the major East-German towns muslim-free?

I am a country person, and I haven't really been to the big cities in all those months I am living here. To Chemnitz only twice for a business meeting and to Leipzig only to pick up resp.to take somebody to the railway station and never to Dresden. The next biggest city I know is Zwickau with a population of roughly 100,000. But no, I have never seen anywhere any discernable Muslims and certainly not in the suffocating numbers one sees them in certain West German cities.

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Light dawns: In West Germany, railway stations are one of their favourite gathering places, the bigger the worse. (Should you ever visit Munich, beware!) The relevance of the fact that there weren't any at Leipzig railway station is only just occurring to me.

I was born in the Fifties and brought up by Socialist (more of the ethical than the Marxist variety) parents, who were politically correct in the current sense before anybody else was. No racism, everybody is born equal, who are we to judge others, never stereotype, never disrespect anybody, never judge somebody by their looks, always be on the side of the weak, we can't tell whether there is a God, the lot. My father was a leading member (on a regional basis) of the Socialdemocratic Party. I was so fed up with politics, that I plainly refused to have any part in it. I can't tell anymore how exactly I became politicised. The advent of the Internet and the fact that I couldn't afford horses anymore may have had something to do with it, but whatever the reason was, it started 1998 or 1999. The "Second Intifadah" then made me a full-blown partisan for Israel and, if possible, 9/11 reinforced that. But the real awakening came with the two years I lived in the slums of a West German town in the Ruhrgebiet, one of the regions with the biggest Muslim population and WAS it an eye-opener! Every politically correct bleeding-heart do-gooder ought to live there, even if only for a couple of months.




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« Reply #30 on: December 31, 2007, 08:03:43 AM »
Wilkommen, es tut mir leid dass spreche ich keine Deutsch, weil ich ein Englander bin.

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« Reply #31 on: December 31, 2007, 08:39:56 AM »
Wilkommen, es tut mir leid dass spreche ich keine Deutsch, weil ich ein Englander bin.

Never mind, my English is good enough for both of us.  ;)

And thanks for your kind words.

I love your country and used to be a habituée of the North East, Durham and Noth Yorkshire, mainly. Most wonderful part of the world.

I am saddened to see the recent dhimmification of a great nation.


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« Reply #32 on: December 31, 2007, 09:49:49 AM »
Welcome to JTF Nora.  Your blog Roncevalles looks interesting.  Are you still posting on it?  Did you say you had another blog?  I'll be happy to blogroll both your sites.

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« Reply #33 on: December 31, 2007, 10:09:13 AM »
Welcome Nora. I have enjoyed reading all your posts this morning. It seems that people like me were lucky to be born in a country like America. We are very lucky to never know from some of things that you wrote about in your posts. I think you will like JTF a lot. I look forward to spending some time reading your blog when I have some time. 
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« Reply #34 on: December 31, 2007, 10:22:24 AM »
Welcome Nora. I have enjoyed reading all your posts this morning. It seems that people like me were lucky to be born in a country like America. We are very lucky to never know from some of things that you wrote about in your posts. I think you will like JTF a lot. I look forward to spending some time reading your blog when I have some time. 
you're kidding. USA is having the same problems , if not more.
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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« Reply #35 on: December 31, 2007, 11:00:31 AM »
Welcome Nora. I have enjoyed reading all your posts this morning. It seems that people like me were lucky to be born in a country like America. We are very lucky to never know from some of things that you wrote about in your posts. I think you will like JTF a lot. I look forward to spending some time reading your blog when I have some time. 
you're kidding. USA is having the same problems , if not more.

Honestly I think we have a long way to go before life in America can be compared to a Soviet Satellite Nation. I have been around for a long time and granted its not what it use to be but in comparison its really not all that bad.
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« Reply #36 on: December 31, 2007, 11:11:03 AM »
Welcome aboard, Nora.

Are they fox terriers or jack russells?

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« Reply #37 on: December 31, 2007, 11:22:27 AM »
Welcome Nora. I have enjoyed reading all your posts this morning. It seems that people like me were lucky to be born in a country like America. We are very lucky to never know from some of things that you wrote about in your posts. I think you will like JTF a lot. I look forward to spending some time reading your blog when I have some time. 
you're kidding. USA is having the same problems , if not more.

Honestly I think we have a long way to go before life in America can be compared to a Soviet Satellite Nation. I have been around for a long time and granted its not what it use to be but in comparison its really not all that bad.

If I am right informed, NY, California, are as bad as USSSR.
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« Reply #38 on: December 31, 2007, 12:23:38 PM »
Welcome to JTF Nora.  Your blog Roncevalles looks interesting.  Are you still posting on it?  Did you say you had another blog?  I'll be happy to blogroll both your sites.

Lisa, thank you very much. I will get back to you by PM if that is alright.


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« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2007, 12:25:33 PM »
Welcome Nora. I have enjoyed reading all your posts this morning. It seems that people like me were lucky to be born in a country like America. We are very lucky to never know from some of things that you wrote about in your posts. I think you will like JTF a lot. I look forward to spending some time reading your blog when I have some time. 

I like it already CJD and thanks for your kind words!


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« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2007, 12:39:33 PM »
Welcome aboard, Nora.

Are they fox terriers or jack russells?
Hello Newman!

They are considered Parson Russells here in Germany, the very short legged ones go by the name of Jack Russell here. The former are officially recognised, the latter aren't. The Brits are less fussy, they are all Jack Russell or just Russell Terriers, irrespective how long or short their legs are. They don't bother with Kennel Club recognition either. The general idea behind that is, that any official standard means compromising the performance.

Foxterriers and Parsons are very alike, the most prominent difference is the lack of any stop, which gives the former a long-nosed, in a cute way supercilious, appearence the Parson/Jack Russell Terrier doesn't possess. The Parsons have usually less colour as well and are, on an average base, smaller. I have posted in the Appreciation for Creation - Favourite Dog Breed forum something about them.


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« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2007, 12:58:16 PM »
Welcome Nora. I have enjoyed reading all your posts this morning. It seems that people like me were lucky to be born in a country like America. We are very lucky to never know from some of things that you wrote about in your posts. I think you will like JTF a lot. I look forward to spending some time reading your blog when I have some time. 
you're kidding. USA is having the same problems , if not more.

Honestly I think we have a long way to go before life in America can be compared to a Soviet Satellite Nation. I have been around for a long time and granted its not what it use to be but in comparison its really not all that bad.

If I am right informed, NY, California, are as bad as USSSR.
I live in New York and although I have seen things better it could never be even remotely compared to life in a state controlled society such as the USSR set up in many places. The only problem we have here is the American people are asleep at the wheel and they are allowing the wool to be pulled over their eyes. America is still in far better shape as far as the muslims and our illegal problem goes than many other of the major countries. Granted if we allow things to carry on as they are progressing in 10 or 20 years what you say might become the case however for now I would have to respectfully disagree.
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« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2007, 01:18:31 PM »
Hello Nora :)

Hello there! I know your site, Goldfasan, although I have never posted there. The anti-Islam brotherhood in Germany is so small, you may know me as the Roncesvalles-Blogger.

Glad to meet you!
I don't know your blog before. But now I like it.

You have written there some interesting articles.

In example this one about the attempted murder of Rabbi Zalman Gurevitch in Frankfurt.

http://editrixblog.blogspot.com/2007/09/clearly-case-of-self-defense.html
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« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2007, 01:28:34 PM »
Hello Nora :)

Hello there! I know your site, Goldfasan, although I have never posted there. The anti-Islam brotherhood in Germany is so small, you may know me as the Roncesvalles-Blogger.

Glad to meet you!
I don't know your blog before. But now I like it.

You have written there some interesting articles.

In example this one about the attempted murder of Rabbi Zalman Gurevitch in Frankfurt.

http://editrixblog.blogspot.com/2007/09/clearly-case-of-self-defense.html

Well, yes... I was VERY angry when I wrote that.


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« Reply #44 on: December 31, 2007, 11:37:28 PM »
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« Reply #46 on: February 03, 2008, 07:01:30 PM »
Can people tell by one's dialect (pronunciation, vocabulary) whether a person comes from East Germany or West Germany?

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« Reply #47 on: February 03, 2008, 07:08:07 PM »
Can people tell by one's dialect (pronunciation, vocabulary) whether a person comes from East Germany or West Germany?

In most of the cases it's possible to say if somebody comes from East or West Germany and also which region they are from just by listening to the way they speak and the words they use.

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« Reply #48 on: February 04, 2008, 06:43:07 AM »
Can people tell by one's dialect (pronunciation, vocabulary) whether a person comes from East Germany or West Germany?

In most of the cases it's possible to say if somebody comes from East or West Germany and also which region they are from just by listening to the way they speak and the words they use.


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« Reply #49 on: February 04, 2008, 09:42:55 AM »
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