JPFO (Jews for preservation of firearm ownership) support Ron Paul?

[White Israelite]

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ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

November 20th, 2007

JPFO ALERT: A PERSONAL MESSAGE FROM AARON ZELMAN

Under the current laws of the United States of America, tax-exempt educational organizations like Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership (of which I happen to be the founder and executive director) are strictly prohibited from engaging directly in electoral politics. That's why it's important to make sure you understand thoroughly that the following opinions are entirely mine, at the present moment, and do not necessarily reflect those of JPFO.

I have before me an article in which the Anti-Defamation League's "Assistant Director of Civil Rights", Steven Freeman is attempting to take Republican Congressman -- and dark horse Presidential Candidate -- Ron Paul to task for receiving a small campaign contribution from an otherwise obscure individual who turns out to run a white supremist website.

Aside from noting that, rather like the American Civil Liberties Union, the ADL's devotion to civil rights is rather hypocritically selective -- for example, they can't abide the rights guaranteed by the Second Amendment, and can barely tolerate anyone who employs his or her right to free speech in order to defend the private ownership of weapons -- there are one or two questions this sudden concern evokes.

Apparently there's a small handful, out there, of similar websites which, for some reason defying all logic, offer support to a man who is, in fact, their mortal ideological enemy. Paul, as I interpret what he has said over the past 20 years, is for individual freedom above all other considerations. Obviously racists and neofascists are collectivists, meaning that to them, it is the group that comes first, far above and beyond the interests of any "mere" individual. They are, therefore, socialists of one stripe or another (never forget that Hitler considered himself a socialist), and the enemies of freedom.

"Nazi" is an acronym for "National Socialist Workers' Democratic Party".

Why these socialists should admire Paul is a puzzlement. But then, they are what they are -- racists and neofascists -- so none of their lunatic thought processes should be taken very seriously, nor should the object of their irrationality be held in any way responsible for them.

Of course the ADL's real objective here is to force a candidate whom they see as their ideological enemy (once again, much more a matter of the eye of the beholder than of any character flaw their enemy may possess) to do a little dance for them whenever they feel like it. They want to push him through the ceremonial meat-slicer of renunciation, regret, and remorse that so many others have been pushed through in recent years. The trouble is that, like every other form of blackmail, it never ends. The instant he complies with their demands, he becomes their property, their toy, their organ-grinder's monkey, no longer a threat to the anti-Constitutional establishment they are part of.

It's clear that, before the ADL starts accusing anybody else of being unduly influenced by political undesirables, they have a few questions of their own to answer under the harsh light of public scrutiny. For example, to how many self-proclaimed Marxists might some tiny minority of donations to the ADL be traced? It's statistically inevitable that such a thing has happened, probably more than once. To my (admittedly incomplete) knowledge, they have never renounced such supporters or sent any money back. Does this make ADL a communist front group? I certainly don't think so, but by ADL's own standard, it does.

Much more importantly, the ADL has a little housecleaning of its own to do before they start pointing fingers. How can anybody take anything about them seriously as long as they continue to defend a blatantly unconstitutional federal law -- the late Senator Thomas Dodd's infamous 1968 Gun Control Act -- that is very little more than a translation into English (one performed at Dodd's written request by the Library of Congress) of Adolf Hitler's evil weapons legislation of 1938?

Go to http://www.jpfo.org/images02/handbill-adl.jpg to see for yourself a photograph of the actual letter that Dodd received from Lewis C. Coffin, Law Librarian of the Library of Congress, cheerfully replying to Dodd's request for a translation of the original Nazi legislation which the ADL presently supports. You might enjoy this http://www.jpfo.org/images02/handbillpoliticians.jpg too. ADL's shameful approval and compliance have helped turn a once-insignificant bureaucracy into a new Gestapo and a once-free America into a police state.

Furthermore, in light of the incontrovertible fact that every one of history's massive genocide campaigns was preceded by the forcible removal of weapons from private hands (as what politician wouldn't want to make sure the individuals he or she was planning to murder in cold blood couldn't fight back?), how can the ADL justify any kind of gun control laws -- more accurately termed "victim disarmament" -- at all?

Surely Abe Foxman, current national director of the ADL ought to know better. As a boy, most of his relatives were murdered by the Nazis precisely because they had been deprived of the means to defend themselves.

By contrast, see http://www.jpfo.org/alerts/alert20040304.htm a webpage dedicated to the impressive accomplishments of a 2003 JPFO movie Innocents Betrayed where Paul himself is quoted as saying, "Innocents Betrayed has an important message for America. It shows why gun control must always be rejected, and it shows it very convincingly."

It's long past time for the ADL to do a little dance of their own, a dance of renunciation, regret, and remorse for the hundreds, or the thousands, or perhaps even the millions of innocent individuals that the policies they advocate are responsible for having injured or killed.

They must apologize to the shopkeeper, robbed, maimed, and killed because government, at one level or another, under policies the ADL has helped to shape -- allowed him nothing with which to defend himself.

They must apologize to the helpless woman who was raped and murdered because she wasn't permitted the physical means of self- defense.

They must apologize to the families of those who died needlessly because pressure groups like the ADL would rather see them all dead in a darkened alley somewhere than see them alive with a gun in their hand.

Go look at that handbill again. Send it out (along with this message, of course) to everyone you know, to all your friends and associates, to every enemy of freedom you have an e-mail address or URL for. ADL's hypocrisy must be exposed for what it is. Encourage everyone you know to write to the ADL and ask about their repulsive double standard. Ask them exactly what sort of moral compass Abe Foxman has that can allow that double standard to influence his own organization.

Visit ADL at http://www.adl.org/contact_us.asp .

Please understand, we are all living -- or at least we ought to be -- in a Bill of Rights culture, and that the ADL and racist groups have a right to express their opinions freely, although I personally think they're both festering boils full of pus on the derriere of the American body politic. But for the ADL to refer to itself as a civil rights organization is pure humbug. It is the Anti-Defamation League, and not Congressman Ron Paul, who are guilty by association -- with themselves.

ADL, burn in Hell.

Permission granted to distribute without additions or deletions. Copyright © Aaron Zelman 2007

Box 270143,Hartford ,WI 53027, USA

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ALERT FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

November 21st, 2007

JPFO ALERT:  SOME READER'S COMMENTS


Following up on our alert yesterday about the hypocrisy of the ADL
condemning the Ron Paul campaign,  we thought we'd share with you
some comments from our readers.

We'd like to draw your attention to an error on our part regarding
the word ''democratic'', which was included in our description of
Nazi - when in fact of course there was nothing democratic about
the Nazi Party.  We have corrected the alert which is on our site -
http://www.jpfo.org/alerts/alert20071120.htm.

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Thank you Aaron, G*d Bless you and have wonderful Thanksgiving! Jack


Thank You, Mr. Zelman.
Dave



Thank you so much Aaron for defending Ron Paul.
Scott, Buffalo Grove, IL



Dear Aaron
Nice message - thank you for sending. Kindest regards.
Renee



Thank you for a cogent, clear and ideologically sound opinion on
the donations to the Ron Paul campaign.
Dean



Dear Aaron,

Not not all the ADL officials are so knee jerk liberal - the
director of our CT ADL is actually pretty conservative -and
religious. I think we need to identify potential converts within
the ADL's ranks and make  it address it's core issues -keeping Jews
safe. This includes widespread firearms ownership and training
among Jews and indeed all Americans who want to be secure and free.
When the Achmed shows up at you kid's school intent on mayhem,
throwing diversity pamphlets at him isn't going to help solve the
problem, but 230 grains of JHP will.
Shlomo



Dear Mr. Zelman:

Thank you for this information.  Your points are well taken and I
support Congressman Paul and despise racism of any sort.  And ADL,
burn in Hell, whew, I don't think I could say that and get away
with it.  You've got moxie.
All the best,
Bill



Dear Mr. Zelman:

Thank you for righting on a long suffering wrongs of the ADL an
organization which has lost it's way.
Thank you for the time and effort, courage, conviction, and search
of the truth if defending Dr. Ron Paul the only defender to my
knowledge who actually defends our Constitution and Bill of Rights
and has done so all his life.and bring out the hypocrisy of ADL.
 In Liberty, Billy



Right on, Aaron!

I will get this out to everyone in my mailbox and then some.

I don't know how much truth there is to this, but I have heard that
some of these nazi and fascist groups will work with the FBI.  If
that is the case, then I can see them trying to tie themselves with
Ron Paul in order to demonize him and help him lose elections.  The
enemies of Liberty will stop at nothing.  That always amazes me,
because it is their Liberty that is under fire as well.  Why do
they never understand that?

ADL can burn in hell is absolutely right.  I am going to give them
an earful as well.

Ron Paul will never get to the presidency in the first place, and
even if he does, the powers that be will assassinate him.  We are
going to have to watch this republic crash, and we are goinng to
have to restore it.  I just hope what is left of the American
people have the stomach to do it.  I will always fight for Liberty!


Never give up your guns -- no matter what "laws" they pass -- no
matter what they say or do -- no matter what!  If we give up the
firearms -- it's all over.  Period.

STICK TO YOUR GUNS!  SUPPORT RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT IN
'08!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sincerely, Ted



Hi Mr. Aaron Zelman

Wow just finish reading your "A Personal Message from Aaron
Zelman", powerfull, but the Truth must be told!   Just as strong as
"JPFO and NRA Have Different Views of BATFE".  No other site tells
it as it is!  I wanted to say keep up the Great work.  I always
listen to  "Talkin' to America" on my way to work,  I made 4 CD of
all the mp3s you have posted I always play it, every time I
carpool! Thanks for taking the time to read my email.
Mr. J C

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[דוד בן זאב אריה]

Self Hating Jews. Hunter is much better

[White Israelite]

Self Hating Jews. Hunter is much better

Uh your calling the JPFO self hating Jews? They are the ONLY Jewish group who fights to protect our gun rights. Would you prefer to stick up for the ADL instead?

Do you even care about guns or are you one of those gun control kooks who rather not speak about it?

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

Yes I care that is why I support a candidate that is does not intentionally appeal to Anti Semites as well as protest the Second Amendment. Mike Huckabee

[White Israelite]

Yes I care that is why I support a candidate that is does not intentionally appeal to Anti Semites as well as protest the Second Amendment. Mike Huckabee

So how do we know huckabee won't sign the assault weapon ban?

Ron Paul said he would get rid of the NICS (Background check) and work to get rid of other gun laws as well, also get rid of IRS.

These candidates say they support 2nd amendment yet they support silly restrictions unless your a hunter.

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

The few thing that are good about Ron Paul pale in comparison to the things he will do against Israel and the Jewish Community. Rudy Giuliani for all his flaws is a far better candidate then Ron Paul

[RationalThought110]

How many times do you have to be told that Paul isn't the only candidate who supports the 2nd amendment.

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

I know that he isn't the only canidate that support the right to bare arms. I don't have to be told twice not to mention once

[RationalThought110]

Yes I care that is why I support a candidate that is does not intentionally appeal to Anti Semites as well as protest the Second Amendment. Mike Huckabee

So how do we know huckabee won't sign the assault weapon ban?

Ron Paul said he would get rid of the NICS (Background check) and work to get rid of other gun laws as well, also get rid of IRS.

These candidates say they support 2nd amendment yet they support silly restrictions unless your a hunter.

So you think someone with a mental disorder should own a gun without any background check? 

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

Of course not. I am not insane like Ron Paul a simple background check is a reasonable restriction

[JTFFan]

The few thing that are good about Ron Paul pale in comparison to the things he will do against Israel and the Jewish Community. Rudy Giuliani for all his flaws is a far better candidate then Ron Paul

I agree, much better.

[White Israelite]

Yes I care that is why I support a candidate that is does not intentionally appeal to Anti Semites as well as protest the Second Amendment. Mike Huckabee

So how do we know huckabee won't sign the assault weapon ban?

Ron Paul said he would get rid of the NICS (Background check) and work to get rid of other gun laws as well, also get rid of IRS.

These candidates say they support 2nd amendment yet they support silly restrictions unless your a hunter.

So you think someone with a mental disorder should own a gun without any background check? 

Classify by what you indicate is a "mental disorder", you know many veterans with PTSD cannot own guns anymore? Several people are misdiagnosed as "mentally ill". In that case, if you don't trust them with a gun, do you trust them with a car? Do you trust them in society? If people are so truely ill that they are a threat to themselves or others, then put them in a mental institution. It's the same with felons, if you have done your time in jail, your rights SHOULD BE RESTORED. If the person is still a threat to society, keep them locked up, simple.

Of course not. I am not insane like Ron Paul a simple background check is a reasonable restriction

No there is no such thing as a reasonable restriction, what part of "SHALL NOT INFRINGED" do you not understand? Do you know how many people have been denied on NICS that are not criminals or who have never committed a crime due to similar name or what not? A background check turns a right into a privilege. Obviously you seem to have forgotten history how Hitler used the same "restrictions" to stop Jews from buying guns.

You remind me of all the other gun control candidates, you claim you support the 2nd amendment and probably march with the million mom march and claim "we are not anti-gun, we are for reasonable gun control restrictions, close the gun show loophole!!!"

Let me guess, you support banning the .50 cal barrett sniper rifle because the brady campaign says terrorists might use it to shoot down planes, do you support banning AK47's as well because it's the terrorist weapon of choice?

The majority of people who claim to be against gun control don't know what their talking about, I am against any restrictions period! The government has NO RIGHT to regulate the right to bear arms.

Go watch JPFO's documentary the gang, heres the trailer.

Learn your history





I seriously wonder if people worship politicians more than G-d





Sounds pretty much identical to todays laws

he 1938 German Weapons Law

The 1938 German Weapons Law superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. Furthermore, the law restricted ownership of firearms to "...persons whose trustworthiness is not in question and who can show a need for a (gun) permit." Under the new law:

    * Gun restricton laws only applied to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. Writes Prof. Bernard Harcourt of the University of Chicago, "The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, as well as ammunition."[4]
    * The groups of people who were exempt from the acquisition permit requirement expanded. Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and Nazi party members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[5]
    * The age at which persons could own guns was lowered from 20 to 18.[6]
    * The firearms carry permit was valid for three years instead of one year.[7]
    * Jews were forbidden from the manufacturing of firearms and ammunition.[8]

Under both the 1928 and 1938 laws, gun manifacturers and dealers were required to maintain records with information about who purchased guns and the guns' serial numbers. These records were to be delivered to a police authority for inspection at the end of each year.

On November 11, 1938, the Minister of the Interior, Wilhelm Frick, passed Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons. This regulation effectively deprived all Jews of the right to possess firearms or other weapons.

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

You are saying that some one who is insane should be alowed to get a gun no questions asked.

"No there is no such thing as a reasonable restriction"

Hate to break it to you but you are just plain wrong

[White Israelite]

You are saying that some one who is insane should be alowed to get a gun no questions asked.

"No there is no such thing as a reasonable restriction"

Hate to break it to you but you are just plain wrong

Have you read the constitution??!

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
Thomas Jefferson

Do you know what the definition of free is?

grant freedom to; free from confinement

If you are are in prison, you are not free, if you are in a mental institution, you are not free.

I didn't say give criminals and mentally ill guns, I said if they are truely a threat to society, why bother releasing criminals back on the street? What the hell is the point of taking away peoples rights and making them live as a 2nd class citizen? You support a tyrannical government taking away your rights?
 
Do you know what the word infringe means?

conflict: go against, as of rules and laws; "He ran afoul of the law"; "This behavior conflicts with our rules"

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Your like all the other people i've met who say they support the second amendment then they say "Oh why do you need a uzi?" "Why do you need a full automatic machine gun?" same [censored], different people.

I'm sure when Giuliani signs the assault weapon ban, you'll be nodding your head saying it's for the good of society or is the right to bear arms just at the bottom of your list of priorities?

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

With your stance a mentally unstable Muslim citizen of the United States a shoot up a school or mall or stadium. We do have Muslim Nazis in this country legally so should they be given the right to bear arms. We have to be smart. I take it you are responsible enough to own a gun so why would it bother you to go through a screening processes to get a gun. You have nothing to hide. What you are saying is that it's okay for a Retarded Muslim to buy a gun no questions asked. Well when a Muslim Shoots up a Mall full of Christmas shoppers will you still say that it's his right.

[White Israelite]

With your stance a mentally unstable Muslim citizen of the United States a shoot up a school or mall or stadium. We do have Muslim Nazis in this country legally so should they be given the right to bear arms. We have to be smart. I take it you are responsible enough to own a gun so why would it bother you to go through a screening processes to get a gun. You have nothing to hide. What you are saying is that it's okay for a Retarded Muslim to buy a gun no questions asked. Well when a Muslim Shoots up a Mall full of Christmas shoppers will you still say that it's his right.

Aha, there goes that "you have nothing to hide" crap. What do you have to hide? Why don't you walk around naked, you don't need clothes. Why not have cameras all around your house for people to see, you have nothing to hide, absolutely nothing.

I don't know about you but I have plenty to hide, I don't want the public knowing I have a gun or government knowing in the event I ever have to use it to protect myself against jack booted thugs who are busting down peoples doors like in new orleans during Katrina. Oh but you probably figure that stuff doesn't happen in your sheltered utopia. See the video for yourself, thank the "screening process" for allowing the cops to find people who owned guns tackling a old lady and confiscating guns without receipts.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

You know what the papers did here recently? Did you know that when you get a conceal carry weapons permit that is PUBLIC INFORMATION? Part of the freedom of information act. The newspaper here released ALL the names of the people in our county who had a concealment permit putting them in danger! Yes lets just tell all the criminals who own guns with a list of names and addresses. Go read about it here

http://www.roanoke.com/news/roanoke/wb/109163

You already know my stance on guns, I do not support any restrictions, but I will tell you this much, that muslim who shot up the people in the mall in Utah was a GUN FREE ZONE. Nobody could carry a gun legally but guess what? Criminals break the law. Do you really think saying "you can't have a gun" is going to stop people from getting them? How do you think most criminals get their gun? THEY BREAK THE LAW. They get them illegally, they steal them, whatever they can.

Nobody should be disarmed, that is part of the freedom of being an American. The problem is these restrictions don't affect the criminals, it creates a safe working environment for them. I guarantee you if everyone was armed in this country, the criminals would be cleansed from the genepool and we wouldn't have to worry about shootings anymore. Tell me why we don't see all these shootings at gunshows or NRA conventions? Oh but theres a shooting at a gun free zone where people are disarmed, how ironic.

And for your information, I don't buy my guns at gunstores, therefore I don't register my guns nor is there a paper trail and that's the way it should be. I buy my guns private party or I buy flat receivers or 80 percent and finish them as it's perfectly legal to do so.

Why not move to England or Canada if you love gun control so much? I'm sure they can tell you what a waste of tax dollars gun bans and registration was and how it didn't affect crime whatsoever. I'm sure many of our south african members will tell you how effective "gun control is" despite the fact all the criminals can get whatever they want anyways while the law abiding citizens are victims and disarmed.

It doesn't matter what you or I think or what I support, I support what the founding fathers supported. The fact you claim you support the second amendment yet support regulations makes you a hypocrite. Why don't you visit StørmFrønt sometime and read what they have to say about the second amendment, you know that they claim only whites have the right to bear arms and they support the right to bear arms yet they dodge the question if you ask if Jews have the right to bear arms? You can't say you support the 2nd amendment and support so called "reasonable restrictions". That puts you in the same category as Sarah Brady and the Brady Bunch in my opinion.

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

The 2nd amendment was put into place for militia groups. So you could also make the argument that it is not valid. But I still stand by what I said. We need to make sure that guns only fall into the hands of responsible gun owners.

[MassuhDGoodName]

Cohen's argument is unassailable.

The Constitution is the only thing standing between Jews and Auschwitz.

Those preferring the current "status quo" of Globalism and Big Government listening to all, watching all, and violating the Bill of Rights, aren't interested in either history, facts, law, or logic.

Rabbi Meir Kahane wrote that the abandonment of the the United States Constitution, a process already long in the making as of 1973, would eventually result in the undoing of the American Jews and an American Holocaust against Jews.

As always, he is again proven correct; this time by Jews who join a Kahanist forum yet have never read or supported anything Kahanist.

All I've got to say to you, Cohen, is "Keep your powder dry".

[shimon]

ron paul has never denied the support of the kk and other neo nazi groups. id rather vote for huckabee. paul also said it was americas fault for 9 11 since they had soldiers in saudi arabia. i recommend u  stop supporting ron paul here or ill reccomen u get banned . and im serious

[White Israelite]

ron paul has never denied the support of the kk and other neo nazi groups. id rather vote for huckabee. paul also said it was americas fault for 9 11 since they had soldiers in saudi arabia. i recommend u  stop supporting ron paul here or ill reccomen u get banned . and im serious

How about as an American I have the right to support who I want? Is this the mentality that if you don't like what i'm saying that I will get banned? I am Jewish, I am an American, I care about my rights. If I get banned then so be it, but others do agree with my position here on the forum.

[MassuhDGoodName]

shimon:  "i recommend u  stop supporting ron paul here or ill reccomen u get banned . and im serious..."

[White Israelite]

The 2nd amendment was put into place for militia groups. So you could also make the argument that it is not valid. But I still stand by what I said. We need to make sure that guns only fall into the hands of responsible gun owners.

WRONG!

[aggressi0n]

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Islam. Are you willing to vote for Islam?

[דוד בן זאב אריה]

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Islam. Are you willing to vote for Islam?

I agree. And BTE aggressi0n welcome to the froum

[White Israelite]

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for Islam. Are you willing to vote for Islam?

Ron Pauls cutting funding to Islam nations as well.