Enough! I scheduled the date. It was not done in any way to offend anyone of the Jewish faith. I believe I already explained my reasons for picking a Saturday. Again, as I said, we will have more Saturday events in the future, as well as Sundays and weekdays. While we welcome Jewish members as well as Vito does, we also welcome members of other faiths and of no faiths at all. We are a secular party with the goal of preserving an America where all religions can worship as they choose, as long as they do not attempt to force this on all others, which excludes islam. As I said, everyone there and everyone invited are adults and have free will to choose if they attend or not.
I am a Christian that was raised Roman Catholic. I rarely attend mass on Sundays, I don't use rosary beads, I eat meat on Fridays. Is the NFL and the Beef industry encouraging me to go against rules of my faith?
I honestly believe this debate, if not out of line is at least definetly out of place and should be moved to another thread.
Vito is being attacked here and honestly you are not going to find many, if any, Gentile politicians, than Vito, who is more supportive of the Jewish faith.
Now, the idea of a Saturday night event sounds good. Two questions. How many people here would actually attend and how many people here would actually help with organizing it. Remember, I am talking about a Loyalist party event, not a JTF event, even though I am sure and hopeful there would be many JTF members in attendance.
Sorry about my lack of knowledge of the Jewish faith. Jewish men and women really are not allowed to dance together? If this is true, and the Loyalist party holds a dinner/dance/conference/fundraiser,etc. at a time acceptable to Jewish law, Saturday after sundown, but we had music with dancing, and our Gentile men and women danced with each other, would we be encouraging the Jewish members in attendance to do anything wrong? I am not trying to be sarcastic here, just showing how slippery this slope can get.
The Loyalist party is a secular political party and events can possibly be held 24/7.
I will definetly look into the Saturday night idea, but remember, this event would still be for all Loyalist party supporters, Jewish, Christian, Hindu or otherwise(except islam).
I know I am only a part time member here but I am begging the moderators to move this debate to another thread and let this one focus on Vito and his candidacy which is going to pick up steam. We already have other national third parties attacking us. If we were not a threat they would not be commenting on us.
RationalThought, no, Vito does not need to run in our party primary. The party only has one candidate in NY so far, and that is Vito. Remember, this party only started less than a year ago out in California. When it started at first it was just an idea, then a website was set up to gauge some interset, then the founding members started reaching out to groups such as the UAC(which is how I came to the party) which then reached out to other groups members, such as JTF, etc. We do have a couple thousand members nationally but are pretty well spread out, which obviously has advantages and disadvantages. Vito has stepped up to run for office under our banner in NY. We are actively recruiting more candidates for more offices, not only in NY, but nationally. Our ultimate goal is congress, but unknowns with no money do not start off running for congress. You start locally and build from there, which is our game plan.
We have one other candidate so far who I believe will be running for city council in LA, which I believe is next year. Vito's opponent is Democrat Ann Margaret Carrozza. She is a 7 term incumbent. This is mainly because the Republicans have never really put up a serious challenger. They always have a name on the ballot just to hold their ballot line. Some of these candidates have actually recieved over 30% of the vote in some years without any campaigning. This district is also the most conservative district in the city outside of Staten Island. This district is screaming for a conservative change, they just have never been given much of an option. Vito is the option.
The election rules are ridiculous though. A republican or democrat candidate needs to collect 500 signatures to get on the ballot, an independent candidate needs to collect 1,500 to get on the same ballot. To get in the same class as the dems and republicans, as far as ballot access, all a party needs to do is put up a candidate for governor, have that candidate listed with the Board of Elections under that parties name, and recieve at least 50,000 votes in the election. They will then hold this status until the next Governours election, when they must repeat this to hold that status. This is the NY state laws. Other states have different rules. Some much worse, some much better. When we get to the point of holding primaries, we are doing good.
Just for some focus. One of the bigger third parties out there, the Constitution party, has members attacking us(see thirdpartywatch.com under Vito vaccaro). They have been around since 1992. We have been around since 2007. How many people here know of the Constitution party? How many people here know of any of their candidates? Do they have a candidate in NY? 16 years to 1. Vito will be one of the pioneers of the Loyalist party.
Now, back to a Saturday night event, obviously it would have to be somewhere in NY. It really should be in Vito's district although this is not 100% necessary but is highly recommended. Anyone willing to help organize it?
Thanks to all for the compliments. We will improve as we go along. Also, I promise, if we have a Saturday night dinner/dance, there will be Kosher food there. Though I must be 100% honest here, I am not really sure just what constitutes food being Kosher. I have heard many different explanations. There will also be non Kosher food there, though everything will be labeled so we do not ENCOURAGE anyone to do anything wrong.
Also, there was not a single comment on the big issue, Vito's goatee. I say this now with a solid unblemished record of heterosexuality, even with a goatee he looked good.
Now, Vito Vaccaro for NY Assembly 08!
