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Proof of how stupid Ron Paul supporters really are
« on: December 04, 2007, 07:50:34 PM »
In this video, Barry Goldwater Jr. endorses Ron Paul. You will find an astonishing number of commenters who think this is actually the now-deceased Barry Goldwater. The rest of these idiots don't even know who Barry Goldwater was or what he stood for in the 1950's and 1960's.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=W7r27Az_Mns

"barry goldwater! yay

too bad he didnt win the vp role when he had the chance....or maybe it was for the best, who knows. its very cool none the less that goldwater is taking a position in this election. wouldn't it be the greatest if ross perot advertised for a candidate?"

"Whoa! A Ron Paul/Barry Goldwater ticket would be amazing! Seeing those two guys kick the crap out of the Huckster, Chuck Norris, that other wrestling guy and the rest of the Neo-cons would be pretty damn cool!

Ron Paul 2008 GOLDWATER APPROVED!"
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Re: Proof of how stupid Ron Paul supporters really are
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2007, 08:14:11 PM »
The Ron Paul supporters are as dumb as he is... The tin foil hat people

Ron Paul



And those that are dumb enough to support him

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Re: Proof of how stupid Ron Paul supporters really are
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2007, 08:18:52 PM »
Sorry to say this but if I had to select from the "establishment" or Ron Paul, I'd most surely vote for Ron Paul.  I believe that the President of the US MUST NOT be associated in anyway with the CFR, Trilateral Commission or any of these other elitist organization.....or only to initiate an investigation into their corruption....
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2007, 08:24:12 PM »

RIGHT WING AMERICAN AND PROUD OF IT. IF YOU WANTED TO PROVE YOU WEREN'T A "RACIST" IN 2008 BY VOTING FOR OBAMA, THEN PROVE IN 2012 YOU ARE NOT AN IDIOT FOR VOTING AGAINST OBAMA!

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Re: Proof of how stupid Ron Paul supporters really are
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2007, 08:26:11 PM »
Sorry to say this but if I had to select from the "establishment" or Ron Paul, I'd most surely vote for Ron Paul.  I believe that the President of the US MUST NOT be associated in anyway with the CFR, Trilateral Commission or any of these other elitist organization.....or only to initiate an investigation into their corruption....

Here we go again...CFR does not dictate U.S. foreign policy. It is a think-tank with prominent political and corporate members, but that is really all it is. There is no hidden agenda. If you've read their publication Foreign Affairs , you will simply find an academic/non-ideological debate on the pressing issues facing this country and the world in general.

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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2007, 08:31:29 PM »

Here we go again...CFR does not dictate U.S. foreign policy. It is a think-tank with prominent political and corporate members, but that is really all it is. There is no hidden agenda. If you've read their publication Foreign Affairs , you will simply find an academic/non-ideological debate on the pressing issues facing this country and the world in general.
Dude, come one. You cannot be serious.  I've studied their publications as well their history and internal workings for quite some time.  The CFR and its bastard child: Trilateral Commission have been dictating American foreing policy for years.  Period, end, full stop!  Barry Goldwater even stated this fact...
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"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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Re: Proof of how stupid Ron Paul supporters really are
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2007, 09:41:15 PM »
So you think it's a good idea to have our country allied with Iran and Syria instead of the CFR?

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Re: Proof of how stupid Ron Paul supporters really are
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2007, 10:08:09 PM »
From my knowledge he is an isolationist and not a party to Syria and Iran.  He is of the opinion, so I have read, that Iran is Israel's problem.... 
"‘Vehorashtem/Numbers 33:53’: When you burn out the Land’s inhabitants, you will merit to bestow upon your children the Land as an inheritance. If you do not burn them out, then even if you conquer the Land, you will not merit to allot it to your children as an inheritance." - Ovadiah ben Yacov Sforno; Italian Rabbi, Biblical Commentator, Philosopher and Physician.  1475-1550.

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« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2007, 11:13:35 PM »

Here we go again...CFR does not dictate U.S. foreign policy. It is a think-tank with prominent political and corporate members, but that is really all it is. There is no hidden agenda. If you've read their publication Foreign Affairs , you will simply find an academic/non-ideological debate on the pressing issues facing this country and the world in general.
Dude, come one. You cannot be serious.  I've studied their publications as well their history and internal workings for quite some time.  The CFR and its bastard child: Trilateral Commission have been dictating American foreing policy for years.  Period, end, full stop!  Barry Goldwater even stated this fact...

It may happen that CFR's positions often coincide with the one taken, but correlation doesn't mean causation. Our foreign policy making process is flawed enough as it is with neocons in the Pentagon and anti-Semites in the State Department.

You may say that many of these guys are members of CFR, but CFR didn't make them the way they are. CFR didn't write their textbooks or award them their PhD's.
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Re: Proof of how stupid Ron Paul supporters really are
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2007, 03:16:01 AM »
They don't sound like they're old enough to vote.

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Re: Proof of how stupid Ron Paul supporters really are
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2007, 03:18:33 AM »
Sorry to say this but if I had to select from the "establishment" or Ron Paul, I'd most surely vote for Ron Paul.  I believe that the President of the US MUST NOT be associated in anyway with the CFR, Trilateral Commission or any of these other elitist organization.....or only to initiate an investigation into their corruption....

Here we go again...CFR does not dictate U.S. foreign policy. It is a think-tank with prominent political and corporate members, but that is really all it is. There is no hidden agenda. If you've read their publication Foreign Affairs , you will simply find an academic/non-ideological debate on the pressing issues facing this country and the world in general.


So who/what group do you think was responsible for the creation of the IRS and the Federal Reserve Act?

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« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2007, 03:23:20 AM »


It may happen that CFR's positions often coincide with the one taken, but correlation doesn't mean causation. Our foreign policy making process is flawed enough as it is with neocons in the Pentagon and anti-Semites in the State Department.

You may say that many of these guys are members of CFR, but CFR didn't make them the way they are. CFR didn't write their textbooks or award them their PhD's.


"Neocon" is misused.  It's actual definition, "new conservative", is those who were once Democrats but became Republicans






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Re: Proof of how stupid Ron Paul supporters really are
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2007, 04:04:21 AM »
Sorry to say this but if I had to select from the "establishment" or Ron Paul, I'd most surely vote for Ron Paul.  I believe that the President of the US MUST NOT be associated in anyway with the CFR, Trilateral Commission or any of these other elitist organization.....or only to initiate an investigation into their corruption....

Here we go again...CFR does not dictate U.S. foreign policy. It is a think-tank with prominent political and corporate members, but that is really all it is. There is no hidden agenda. If you've read their publication Foreign Affairs , you will simply find an academic/non-ideological debate on the pressing issues facing this country and the world in general.


So who/what group do you think was responsible for the creation of the IRS and the Federal Reserve Act?

Congress, in both cases.

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Re: Proof of how stupid Ron Paul supporters really are
« Reply #14 on: December 05, 2007, 04:14:26 AM »
Sorry to say this but if I had to select from the "establishment" or Ron Paul, I'd most surely vote for Ron Paul.  I believe that the President of the US MUST NOT be associated in anyway with the CFR, Trilateral Commission or any of these other elitist organization.....or only to initiate an investigation into their corruption....

Here we go again...CFR does not dictate U.S. foreign policy. It is a think-tank with prominent political and corporate members, but that is really all it is. There is no hidden agenda. If you've read their publication Foreign Affairs , you will simply find an academic/non-ideological debate on the pressing issues facing this country and the world in general.


So who/what group do you think was responsible for the creation of the IRS and the Federal Reserve Act?

Congress, in both cases.

Yeah, but didn't you know the CFR and trilateral commission control each and every Congressperson, Senator, President, Judge, and legislative body in the USA and the entire world for that matter ?  :D

Jeez, it gets tiring hearing all this crap about the CFR controlling everyone and everything in some vast evil conspiracy.

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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2007, 04:34:27 AM »

Yeah, but didn't you know the CFR and trilateral commission control each and every Congressperson, Senator, President, Judge, and legislative body in the USA and the entire world for that matter ?  :D

Jeez, it gets tiring hearing all this crap about the CFR controlling everyone and everything in some vast evil conspiracy.


They don't control every member of Congress but they have influence over enough of them that they have great influence over things.


Do you think that it's just a coincidence that every president since at least Woodrow Wilson has violated the constitution?

http://www.greatdreams.com/cfr2.htm

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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2007, 04:35:29 AM »
Jeez, it gets tiring hearing all this crap about the CFR controlling everyone and everything in some vast evil conspiracy.

Agreed. If only the world was that simple.

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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2007, 04:37:11 AM »

Yeah, but didn't you know the CFR and trilateral commission control each and every Congressperson, Senator, President, Judge, and legislative body in the USA and the entire world for that matter ?  :D

Jeez, it gets tiring hearing all this crap about the CFR controlling everyone and everything in some vast evil conspiracy.


They don't control every member of Congress but they have influence over enough of them that they have great influence over things.


Do you think that it's just a coincidence that every president since at least Woodrow Wilson has violated the constitution?

http://www.greatdreams.com/cfr2.htm

Precisely who is 'they' and how do they exert 'influence'? Does Representative Joe Shmo from Nebraska call CFR headquarters before he votes?
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Re: Proof of how stupid Ron Paul supporters really are
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2007, 04:51:52 AM »
No, I think the CFR influence is so great that they actually exert massive control over the legislative, executive and judicial branches of gov't, not just here in the USA, but all over the world.

The influence and control is so great that every President since at least Woodrow Wilson has violated the constitution to do CFR bidding.

Everyone should know this, and if they don't they're missing the big conspiracy !!

Those pikers that forged The Elders of the Protocols of Zion forgot to mention that Jews control the CFR !!  Maybe we can have them add a chapter about the CFR. !!

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« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2007, 04:53:20 AM »
No, I think the CFR influence is so great that they actually exert massive control over the legislative, executive and judicial branches of gov't, not just here in the USA, but all over the world.

The influence and control is so great that every President since at least Woodrow Wilson has violated the constitution to do CFR bidding.

Everyone should know this, and if they don't they're missing the big conspiracy !!

Those pikers that forged The Elders of the Protocols of Zion forgot to mention that Jews control the CFR !!  Maybe we can have them add a chapter about the CFR. !!

Saddam was CFR too. He faked having WMD so the CFR ppl in the US could use it as an excuse to invade. Don't believe me?

IRREFUTABLE PROOF

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« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2007, 05:03:32 AM »
" Wilson's official biographer, Ray Stannard Baker, revealed that the League was not Wilson's idea. "...not a single idea--in the Covenant of the League was original with the President." Colonel House was the author of the Covenant, and Wilson had merelyrewritten it to conform to his own phraseology.

The League of Nations was established, but it, and the plan for world government eventually failed because the U.S. Senate would not ratify the Versailles Treaty.

Pat Robertson, in The New World Order, states that Colonel House, along with other internationalists, realized that America would not join any scheme for world government without a change in public opinion. After a series of meetings, it was decided that an "Institute of International Affairs", with two branches, in the United States and England, would be formed.

The British branch became known as the Royal Institute of International Affairs, with leadership provided by members of the Round Table. Begun in the late 1800's by Cecil Rhodes, the Round Table aimed to federate the English speaking peoples of the world,and bring it under their rule.

The Council on Foreign Relations was incorporated as the American branch in New York on July 29, 1921. Founding members included Colonel House, and "...such potentates of international banking as J.P. Morgan, John D. Rockefeller, Paul Warberg, Otto Kahn, and Jacob Schiff...the same clique which had engineered the establishment of the Federal Reserve System," according to Gary Allen in the October 1972 issue of AMERICAN OPINION.

 The founding president of the CFR was John W. Davis, J.P. Morgan's personal attorney, while the vice-president was Paul Cravath, also representing the Morgan interests. Professor Carroll Quigley characterized the CFR as "...a front group for J.P. Morgan and Company in association with the very small American RoundTable Group." Over time Morgan influence was lost to the Rockefellers, who found that one world government fit their philosophy of business well. As John D. Rockefeller, Sr. had said: "Competition is a sin," and global monopoly fit their needs as they grew internationally.

Antony Sutton, a research fellow for the Hoover Institution for War, Revolution, and Peace at Stanford University, wrote of this philosophy: "While monopoly control of industries was once the objective of J.P. Morgan and J.D. Rockefeller, by the late nineteenth century the inner sanctums of Wall Street understood the most efficient way to gain an unchallenged monopoly was to 'go political' and make society go to work for the monopolists-- under the name of the public good and the public interest."


" In 1940 FDR defeated internationalist Wendell Willkie, who wrote a book entitled One World, and later became a CFR member. Congressman Usher Burdick protested at the time on the floor of the House that Willkie was being financed by J.P. Morgan and the New York utility bankers. Polls showed few Republicans favored him, yet the media portrayed him as THE Republican candidate.

Since that time nearly ALL presidential candidates have been CFR members. President Truman, who was not a member, was advised by a group of "wise men," all six of whom were CFR members, according to Gary Allen. In 1952 and 1956, CFR Adlai Stevenson challenged CFR Eisenhower. In 1960, CFR Kennedy (perhaps killed for attempting to introduce debt-free money, by executive order - cancelled immediately by LBJ) defeated CFR Nixon. In 1964 the GOP stunned the Establishment by nominating its candidate over Nelson Rockefeller. Rockefeller and the CFR wing proceeded to picture Barry Goldwater as a dangerous radical. In 1968 CFR Nixon ran against CFR Humphrey. The 1972 "contest" featured CFR Nixon vs. CFR McGovern.

CFR candidates for president include George McGovern, Walter Mondale, Edmund Muskie, John Anderson, and Lloyd Bentsen. In 1976 we had Jimmy Carter, who is a member of the Trilateral Commission, created by David Rockefeller and CFR member Zbigniew Brezinski with the goal of economic linkage between Japan, Europe, and the United States, and: "...managing the world economy...a smooth and peaceful evolution of the global system." We have also had (though his name strangely disappears from the membership list in 1979) CFR Director (1977-79) George Bush, and last but not least, CFR member Bill Clinton.

They have all promoted the "New World Order," controlled by the United Nations. The problem is that "...the present United Nations organization is actually the creation of the CFR and is housed on land in Manhattan donated to it by the family of current CFR chairman David Rockefeller," as Pat Robertson describes it. "



What otherwise do you think is meant by "establishment?"





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Re: Proof of how stupid Ron Paul supporters really are
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2007, 05:12:08 AM »
Trumpeldor, you are obviously a member of the CFR conspiracy to control the world, trying to convince us that no such conspiracy exists, just so you can continue on with your nefarious agenda !

Did you really think that reverse psychology would work here at the JTF Forum ?

You dont fool me for a minute, you're an agent for the CFR !!

Sorry to have exposed you, but I can't allow the conspiracy for global domination to go unchecked.

You must come clean now !

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Re: Proof of how stupid Ron Paul supporters really are
« Reply #22 on: December 05, 2007, 05:41:36 AM »
We all need to clean up and this CFR conspiracy nonsense has to stop.  O0 ;) The idea is ridiculous  :D

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« Reply #23 on: December 05, 2007, 05:45:45 AM »
We all need to clean up and this CFR conspiracy nonsense has to stop.  O0 ;) The idea is ridiculous  :D


Maybe you should read through the following section of the forum:   http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?board=14.0

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Re: Proof of how stupid Ron Paul supporters really are
« Reply #24 on: December 05, 2007, 05:53:53 AM »
We all need to clean up and this CFR conspiracy nonsense has to stop.  O0 ;) The idea is ridiculous  :D


Maybe you should read through the following section of the forum:   http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?board=14.0

Maybe I'll start looking. ;) As I'm familiar with the CFR but not that familar.
Btw, what does Chaim think about the CFR?