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Noahide Korbanot
OdKahaneChai:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on December 08, 2007, 09:58:18 PM ---Wasn't Avimelech evil though? I don't think he was a Noahide. I think you have him mixed up with Malkitzedek who was really Shem.
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Malchitzedek was a Kohen, so I would put him in a different category...
jdl4ever:
--- Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on December 08, 2007, 09:58:18 PM ---Wasn't Avimelech evil though? I don't think he was a Noahide. I think you have him mixed up with Malkitzedek who was really Shem.
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He wasn't evil as far as I remember, in fact my impression from reading the Torah was that he was a righteous guy as he let Avraham stay in his land, gave him gifts and made a treaty with him. But according to the commentaries G-d didn't like that Avraham made a peace treaty with him to give away land from Israel so that may be where you are taking this from but that doesn't mean anything since we are not allowed to give away parts the land even to a friendly nation. In any case, the man was a Noahide.
Raulmarrio2000:
Avimelech did in fact violate one of the Noahide Laws, he took Sarah to his palace (Gezel-Theft/kidnapping) and even has the intention of raping her. He believed in the Noahide Laws and was afraid of the punishment for adultery when he knew Sarah was married. Just a non-observant Noahide!!! He only knew the Laws. Like Olmerts who is Jew by name, he may celebrate the Feast but not the Laws about the Land of Yisrael.
Bur I was asking about possible Noahide congregations who may consider the possibility of re-starting the Noahide Korbanot. Do you know any?
jdl4ever:
Hmm. I never thought about it that way, I always thought Sarah went willingly since she was afraid of the king, but the Torah doesn't give details so your explanation sounds plausible. What do you care if the Noahide congregations are offering sacrifices yet or not, it is up to you to do what's right in G-d's eyes so if you want to offer a sacrifice to G-d then go ahead, just make sure it's a Kosher animal like a pigeon.
Raulmarrio2000:
--- Quote from: jdl4ever on December 09, 2007, 02:42:39 AM ---Hmm. I never thought about it that way, I always thought Sarah went willingly since she was afraid of the king, but the Torah doesn't give details so your explanation sounds plausible. What do you care if the Noahide congregations are offering sacrifices yet or not, it is up to you to do what's right in G-d's eyes so if you want to offer a sacrifice to G-d then go ahead, just make sure it's a Kosher animal like a pigeon.
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No, a korban has many details. Only a congregation under the supervision of Ravs could perhaps do it now. Goyim have completely forgotten the rules. Some say Ravs still know how to teach Noahides. And you are right regarding Kosher animals. Gentiles were taught the laws of kashruth just for korbanot, since they are not bound to keep in their diet.
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