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What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« on: December 14, 2007, 08:42:59 AM »
I have not heard a single reaction by Australian Serbs except Kapetan (Captain) Dragan.
It seems that Australia isn't scared of muzzies (yet) why aren't Serbs responding there?

Maybe I'm wrong but please someone just shed some light over here.


BTW FYI : Kapetan Dragan Vasijlkovic



Dragan Vasiljković, nicknamed Kapetan Dragan, was a founder and captain of the Serbian paramilitary unit called Knindže (Serbian: Knin/ninjas) or red berets, and was a golf instructor in Australia. He is accused of war crimes by the Republic of Croatia, and is currently being held in an Australian prison pending an appeal against the successful extradition application by the Croatian Government in a Sydney court. His grounds of defense are that as a Serbian Captain, he believes that he would be biased facing a Croatian Court and that no evidence of the allegations are required under the Extradition Act 1988 (House of Commons Extradition Requirements - Section 10) for an Australian citizen to be extradited.

In 1967 he went to Australia with his mother and two siblings under the name Daniel Snedden. After he finished high school in Melbourne he worked in a photo shop. He spent 4 years in the Australian Army's reserve unit 4th/19th Prince of Wales's Light Horse. After his military service, he served as a weapons instructor in Africa and South America. He was sailing around the world and stayed in Serbia in 1988 where he set up a boat and airplane charter business.

In 1991, war broke out and he believed that his army reserves training that he received in Australia could help improve the Serbian army. He served during the Croatian war of independence to the newly-created Republic of Serbian Krajina as a volunteer where he founded the special forces under the Ministry of the Interior of the Republic of Serbian Krajina. These special unit were called Knindže after the Krajina's capital of Knin and ninja fighters. During the war, he founded the Fond Kapetan Dragan aimed at helping victims of war. The foundation was the largest in the history of the Balkans, 67,000 victims of war received aid. In 1995 "Krajina" ceased to exist when Croatian forces took over the Serbian area during Operation Storm. After the defeat, Vasiljković returned to Perth, Western Australia.

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2007, 08:50:52 AM »
The Serbs where I live don't care, because they don't see Muslims as a risk to them.

Maybe in other parts of the country near Newman and others are different.

But Serb and Croats in my area don't fight.

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2007, 02:54:15 PM »
I have not heard a single reaction by Australian Serbs

The Australian Serbs organized in cooperation with other Serbs a special committee of elected lawyers and other experts who will provide help to Dragan Vasiljkovic and his case.

http://www.serbsforjustice.com/main/

www.medijskirat.com
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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2007, 02:55:42 PM »
ZIVJEO KAPETAN DRAGAN !


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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2007, 03:08:56 PM »


STOP FALSE CROATIAN ACCUSATIONS.

STOP THE HUNT AGAINST THE SERBS.

NO MORE INNOCENT SERBS IN PRISON.

Free Dragan Vasiljkovic !

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2007, 06:29:35 PM »
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ZIVJEO KAPETAN DRAGAN !


What does that mean. Please use English only in my section. Thank you .

DALMACIJA that newspaper what does that say?
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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2007, 02:46:46 AM »
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ZIVJEO KAPETAN DRAGAN !


What does that mean. .

It means long live Captain Dragan.

What does that mean. Please use English only in my section. Thank you .
DALMACIJA that newspaper what does that say?

I am sorry it is rude to use a strange language at an English speaking forum.
The newspapers writes about the preparation of the defense of Dragan Vasiljkovic and about the false charges from Croatia against him.


For English information about this subject go to
http://www.serbsforjustice.com/main/
« Last Edit: December 16, 2007, 02:48:46 AM by DALMACIJA »

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2007, 02:55:31 AM »
No worries DALMACIJA  thank you for understanding. And thank you for the link.


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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2007, 03:10:44 AM »
Daniel Snedden AKA Dragan Vasiljkovic

He is put in prison since 2005.
According to some accusations from Croatia the Australian news paper published some untruths about Dragan Vasiljkovic.

The Australian newspaper wrote:
- D. Vasiljkovic organized death units in Croatia and Bosnia in 1991.
His men participated in and organized rape.

There wasn't a war in Bosnia in 1991. The Yugoslav war started in 1991 in Croatia. The war in Bosnia started in 1992.

Even the Hague tribunal did not charged D. Vasiljkovic for anything.
There is no prove of the accusations against D. Vasiljkovic at all.
I know that you can not put a man in prison with out a trial and proves. According to the Australian law the media is not allowed to harm your reputation with untruths?
Does this also counts for the Serbs?

Is it allowed in Australia to published horrible lies about the Serbs, in a national newspaper? Why is a former Serbian commander jailed? Is there a healthy explanation?

Does this mean that the hunt against the Serbs is open worldwide?

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2007, 03:39:59 AM »
Vasiljkovic was wanted by Interpol under war crimes Act.

Australia doesn't deal with war crimes.

The International Criminal Court will hear the case.

http://www.interpol.int/public/data/wanted/notices/data/2006/53/2006_1753.asp

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2007, 04:10:21 AM »
The Serbs (the youngsters moreso) here consider themselves "ethnics" and align themselved with the rest of the wogs like the greeks, italians and the rest. These groups usually align themselves with the muzzies because they all consider themselves to all be wogs persecuted by the anglo aussies. They still despise the croats however.

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2007, 04:18:27 AM »
I heard an interview with him and a croat. Kapetan Dragan always refer croatia as Fascist croatia and calls the croatian minister of justice(not sure what its called) a whore. Then the Dj says: "Sir you can't say that" and Dragan replies with "I have more proof of her being a whore than she has of me being a war criminal" hahahahha.





by the way here are some funny videos with him

Singing Oj Sosana


Creation of the Knindje - Made them within two weeks

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2007, 04:24:50 AM »
Sir you can't say that" and Dragan replies with "I have more proof of her being a whore than she has of me being a war criminal" hahahahha.

Hehe watch your language  :::D
I know that interview at the Croatian radio from 2005.

It was between D. Vasiljkovic and a Croatian reporter.
Serbian Cetnik can you arrange that interview?
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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2007, 04:31:37 AM »
Creation of the Knindje - Made them within two weeks


The legandary Knindže the greatest special unit of whole Krajina.
They had some really good operations and were a serious problem to the Croatian fascist government.

Remember how they surrounded the Croatian police station in Glina in 1991.
How D. Vasiljkovic sent them to Zagreb and throw their flag down of the police station.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2007, 04:37:55 AM by DALMACIJA »

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2007, 04:34:15 AM »
Is there any point to this thread now? Its a Croat and Serb. If you wish to proclaim his position please do so in your own section.


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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2007, 04:44:18 AM »
Has anyone claimed him being Croat?

But ok we will respect your section. Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2007, 05:13:06 AM »
Has anyone claimed him being Croat?

But ok we will respect your section. Sorry for the inconvenience.

My statement was solely referring to the countries in question, not him personally.

There's no inconvenience.


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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #17 on: December 17, 2007, 06:56:29 AM »
Why has this been moved here? and reopened.

Looks like there is little to no respect used here.

I see this solely as a move to bash and attack Australia.  >:( >:(

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #18 on: December 17, 2007, 07:00:13 AM »
what?, i got PMs asking why it was closed. So i moved it to Save Serbia since Kapetan Dragan is Serb, but lives in Australia. And you thought we should close this thread. So in order to satisfy you all I moved it here and reopened it. There will be no Australia bashing.

Australia is one of the few countries I completely respect. So do not worry.

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2007, 07:05:06 AM »
So you moved the thread out of my section without asking me first.

No I don't trust you now.

You have lost my complete respect.

You could of just reopen another thread, about the man in question.

You have step well over your mark.

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2007, 07:23:51 AM »
Dear Infidel,
I never understood this thread
as an anti-Australian one.

Read the title:
it's "against" the Australian SERBS.

Serbian Cetnik was just asking
WHAT are THEY( Serbs) WAITING
for entering into juridic action
to free Kapetan dragan.

 :) :) :)

"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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CcCc

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2007, 07:29:03 AM »
Husar I am sorry I am very angry and feel totally that the action was dishonest and not honourable.

There is more than one issue here.

And one I don't think I will not quickly forgive.


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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2007, 08:05:07 AM »
I sincerely apologize, I feel as I didn't see the gravity of the situation. It will never happen again. I am sorry that you have lost trust and respect in me, It is a thing not easily earned and hopefully I can restore your trust and respect again. Once again I'm deeply sorry

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2007, 09:28:12 AM »
Why has this been moved here? and reopened.

Maybe he should asked first for your permission.
Because the topic was closed and locked by you at your subforum.

Looks like there is little to no respect used here.

Look a misunderstanding is always possible.
But lets solve it. We did not say anything bad toward the Australian nation and Australia in general.

We only judged those actions against D. Vasiljkovic which are committed by the Australian government. Dragan Vasiljkovic AKA Daniel Snedden was a special commander who served the Australian army for a long time. When he arrived in Krajina (Yugoslavia) he always talked good about Australia and considered Australia as his second homeland. I do not see anything bad against Australia at this topic?


@The Infidel,

Is there also a Russian community in Australia and how large is it?

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Re: What the hell are the Australian Serbs doing?
« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2007, 09:42:17 AM »
Dear Infidel,
I never understood this thread
as an anti-Australian one.

Read the title:
it's "against" the Australian SERBS.

Serbian Cetnik was just asking
WHAT are THEY( Serbs) WAITING
for entering into juridic action
to free Kapetan dragan.

 :) :) :)



ok.