spare us your childish taqiya

[davkakach]

WHY HATE? this is the thing about some jews..always wastin their time hating, COME ON theyre kidsLook at the world as people, discard their race, religion etc Everyone has a right and maybe by giving people a chance we can be better people, its not about who gets who doesnt, at least christians and jews get their holidays off already... the muslims have to ask coz its not already there...just plz can the world stop hating for 10 mins?

We'll stop hatin' when you stop gang raping women, torching cars, blowing buildings and trains, get the f--k out of our lands and go back to your Middle Eastern shitholes herding sheep and killing each other.

[MarZutra]

You make a good point. It is shameful that the Christian West are dumbed down with Marxism to see the future of the once Christian West.  When they awake, it will NOT be pretty....if they do ever wake?

[MarZutra]

It is very righteous of you to search for the truth and too that you are not out fooling around with boys.  Knowledge is very important from all angles.  If it is both logical and moral it is probably the truth.  Maimonides stated: "Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. Teach the man how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime."   Logic and moral.  As per your statement about Mohammed.  As a matter of fact, you will see when you decided to open your mind and read the history of Mohammed and the development of Islam to see for yourself what, why, when and how Islam came, developed and grew amongst the benighted dirt dwellers of Arabia.  Once you decided to embark on an unmolested History, too which you might consider doing the same for other faiths, you will find out both the logical and moral truths behind all the histories therein.  

Mohammed had gained power through his assassinations, looting, massacares and raping. The Jewish Tribes of Medinah had been inhabitants of that city for centuries before the Prophet decided to make it the headquarters of his criminal activities. All the Jews were becoming increasingly dissatisfied and angered at the deeds of the Muslims. The Jewish Tribes were peace-loving, hard working tradespeople, whose purpose in life was to earn a decent living through honest means and hard effort. They were perfectly content with the religion of their forefathers and had never anticipated that the man to whom they had given shelter so graciously, would turn into the power crazed monster who was now turning around to attack them. Mohammed was in the position to carry out his hidden ambitions, which became clear soon enough.

With the utmost disregard for all human morality, ethics, or respect for human life, the Prophet of Islam systematically targeted and slaughtered the very Jews of Medinah who had helped him when everyone else in Arabia was kicking him like a dog. He was motivated by these primary reasons.  His fanatic greed for all the wealth that had been created by the blood, sweat and toil of the Jews His maniacal craving for power at any cost. The Jews were the biggest obstacle in his plan to subjugate all of Medinah, so they had to be removed, by any means possible His fear of all other religions. Mohammed was a delusional Megalomaniac, meaning he believed that he was the Supreme Ruler of the world. Anything that threatened this sick fantasy of his, had to be exterminated. Since, the religion of the Jews rejected his pathetic claims to Divine rule, they were the targeted victims in Medinah, just as the Polytheistic Arabs had been his victims in Mecca.

The incidents narrated below demonstrate the horrific depth of Mohammed's atrocities. Keep in mind that Mohammed is the Model of Good Islamic behaviour and you will realise how Islam advocates genocide in the name of religion.

Murder of a Jewish Elder from Khaybar
Date: Late April 626 A.D.
Place: The Jewish Oasis of Khyber
Victims: Abu Rafi

The Muslims who had murdered Kaab Ibn Al Ashraf the famous poet of the Banu-N-Nair were considered as heroes by Mohammed and his followers. Murderers were considered as ideal Muslims. A group of Muslims from the Khazraj Tribe decided to prove their loyalty to their Prophet by killing off a respectable member of the Jewish Community. Abu Rafi was an elderly man who had never done anything against Mohammed or the Muslims. He just happened to be the unfortunate target of Mohammed's plot to terrorize the Jews. The Prophet wanted to send out a message to the Jews, which spelt out clearly that Mohammed was in control of their lives. The "expedition" to kill the poor old helpless man had the specific blessings of the "Merciful" Prophet. About Six of them broke into the Old man's house in the middle of the night and slashed him to ribbons as he slept. The cowardly Muslims always assassinated people in this way, while the victim slept, obviously because they had neither the courage nor the strength to fight even a solitary, aged Jewish Man while he was awake. After their crime, the Muslims fled back home into the arms of their expectant Prophet. There was a fight among them as to who had actually killed Abu Rafi. At this, the Prophet smiled beatifically and started checking their swords. Finally, it was decided that the person who owned the sword which still had traces of food in it, was the winner. Apparently Abu Rafi had just finished his dinner before falling asleep and the sword had slashed through his stomach spilling its contents. Indeed how Benevolent was the Apostle of Peace!

Massacre, Rape and Plunder of Banu-L-Mustaliq
Date: December 626 A.D.
Place: The well of Muraysi near Red Sea
Victims: The Tribe of Banu-L-Mustaliq

Mohammed attacked the Banu-L-Mustaliq because of their wealth. In a surprise raid, the Muslims drove them to the Sea. They slaughtered many members of the Banu-N-Mustaliq Tribe and looted away a booty of 2000 Camels, 5000 Sheep and 500 Women! 500 women were captured screaming and crying after they had watched their husbands and sons being slaughtered. The most beautiful captive was Juwayriyya, daughter of the chief of the Banu-L-Mustaliq. Mohammed snatched her to satisfy his own animal lust. The captured women were supposed to be returned by the Muslims upon payment of a ransom. But the night after the battle itself, Mohammed and his army raped each and every one of them. One of the men Abu Sa'id Khudri of Mohammed's army reported :

"We were lusting after women and chastity had become too hard for us, but we wanted to get the ransom money for our prisoners. So we wanted to use the "Azl" (Coitus Interruptus- where the man withdraws before ejaculating)...We asked the Prophet about it and he said: "You are not under any obligation to stop yourselves from doing it like that.." Later on the women and children were given for ransom to their envoys. They all went away to their country and not One wanted to stay although they had the choice.."

So the Great Prophet of Peace told his men it was perfectly FINE to rape women as long as you didn't ejaculate inside them (which made them pregnant). What supreme logic! Any human being with the slightest shred of morality has to be nauseated by this Man and the religion he preached. Mohammed, the supreme religious figurehead of Islam sanctions RAPE, pure and simple. Not only did the Muslims commit this horrifying crime, they decieved the Tribesmen into paying Ransom for their womenfolk, who only paid the money in a desperate attempt to save their women's honor. To call such a Prophet and his followers the epitome of Evil is probably an understatement.

Massacre of the Banu -Qurayza
Date: April-May 627 A.D.
Place: Medinah
Victims: The Last Jewish Tribe left in Medinah The Banu-Qurayza.

By this time, Mohammed had murdered or driven out all of the Jewish Tribes of Medinah, except the Banu Qurayza. It was time to eliminate this last thorn in his flesh. The Banu Qurayza had been reluctant in helping Mohammed against the Quraysh. Conveniently once again, Mohammed claimed that he had divine knowledge about a conspiracy by the Banu-Qurayza to kill him. He beseiged their fortress for Twenty-Five days. When the starving Tribe surrendered, Mohammed forced an old man from their own Tribe to pronounce Mohammed's sentence. The sentence was death to every male member of the Tribe, Slavery for every woman and child and Plunder of all their property.

The Prophet had an immense trench dug around the main market of Medinah. The men of the Banu Qurayza were rounded up & their hands twisted tightly behind them. Then one by one, they were shoved to the edge of the trench and forced to kneel. They were offered a last chance to convert to "The True Faith" and if they refused, had their heads chopped off. As soon as one head would roll off, the corpse would be kicked into the ditch, and so it went. By the time Dawn had colored the sky red in Medinah, hundreds of corpses piled up in a heap in a tangled cesspool of blood, hair and shreds of flesh. Despite the horrific end in front of their eyes, none of the Jews chose to convert to Islam and faced death valiantly. The blood of 900 innocent Jews stained Mohammed's hands on that black day.

Their only crime was that they chose to retain their fundamental human right, of choosing their own G-d and the religion of their ancestors. Hysterical women & children screamed as they watched their fathers, husbands & sons die. The majority of them were raped savagely and then bundled off to be sold as "used goods". The Prophet had the husband of the Jewess Raihana Bint Amr hacked to pieces before her very eyes, hours after he had murdered her father. No doubt this was the Prophet's perverted version of a wedding present, because after these atrocities he raped the mortified girl and tried to force her to convert to Islam.

Muslim historians still describe the savage rape of Raihana Bint Amr as her "willing submission to Islam and wifehood to the Prophet"

Apparently according to them it is very natural to imagine that a woman who has just seen her husband, father, brothers and Tribe slaughtered violently before her very eyes, would CHOOSE to convert to the religion of the murderer and marry him! In actual fact Raihana REFUSED to convert to Islam and also refused to marry Mohammed the murderer of her family. He kept her as a lowly concubine all his life. So much for the "Apostle of Peace" and his unbounded RESPECT for women. Mohammed was nothing but a serial rapist, who acquired his victims by killing their families first.

Allah as usual has provided yet another timeless Divine revelation which gives his Prophet the Right to rape and torture women of other religions.

Koran 4:24
"And all married women are forbidden unto you EXCEPT those captives whom your right hand possesses. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned, so that you seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery..."

In short Allah the All Merciful is saying "Hey Muslims, it's a crime to go after married women, but IF they happen to be your captives (which obviously all the non-Muslim women were) feel free to indulge yourself in rape and sexual torture of them. "lawful unto you are all beyond those mentioned" Allah is making it LEGAL for Muslims to go ahead and rape Non-Muslim women by Divine Law!

One shudders to imagine what kind of minds invented such utterly sadistic and disgusting ideas.

Mohammed justified all his crimes against the Jews with more of Allah's revelations. Although the following Surahs were not revealed at the same time as the Massacre of Banu Quraizyah, they nevertheless give a general idea of the Prophet's views on Jews and why it is perfectly fine to kill, loot and rape them.

Koran 5:51
O you who believe! Take not the Jews and Christians for friends. They are friends one to another. He among you who taketh them for friends is one of them. Lo allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.

Koran 5:64
The Jews say: "Allah's hand is fettered." It is THEIR hands that are fettered and they are ACCURSED for saying so. Nay, but both his (Allah's) hands are spread in bounty. He bestoweth as he will. That which hath been revealed unto thee from thy Lord is certain to increase the contumacy and belief of many of them, And We have cast among them (The Jews) Enmity and Hatred till the day of Resurrection. As often as they light a fire for war, Allah extinguishes it!

The above verses clearly demonstrate the Muslim's hatred of Jews as prescribed by their Prophet. They also expose the hollow claims of Muslims, about Islam being a peaceful religion that always co-existed with Judaism and Christanity. The innumerable, unwarranted massacres of Jews by Mohammed, tell this story in the clearest terms. These historical events form the basis of the Islamic code of behaviour. Therefore the recent genocide of Hindus, Christians and Jews by Muslims all over the world should come as no surprise whatsoever.

I hope that this tid bit of history at least places a modocum of question of Mohammed's "moral" actions.  

[MarZutra]

Sad to say Aisha, I believe there is going to be a holocaust but I do not believe Muslims are innocent as you suggest.  Them as people are innocent.  Islam as to their profession brings them guilt.  The Nazi's as people were innocent of their horrible crimes against the, majority innocent, Jewish people but the ideology of Nazism dictated their guilt.  I hope this answers your question.  In Biblical terminaology "He who comes to murder you, you kill him first"...A.K.A. self defense against Islamitization and the numerous attrocities committed at the hands of those professing or embracing an ideology/religion of "peace".... 

[davkakach]

muhammed did not rape a soul..

No, he didn't rape a soul.  He raped at least three souls (Safiyah, Juwayriyah, Rayhanah), and that was after he beheaded their husbands in front of their eyes, that sick disgusting pig you call "prophet", piss be upon him and all his followers.

Tabari VIII:38 "The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims."

Tabari VIII:38 "The Prophet selected for himself from among the Jewish women of the Qurayza, Rayhanah bt. Amr. She became his concubine. When he predeceased her, she was still in his possession. When the Messenger of Allah took her as a captive, she showed herself averse to Islam and insisted on Judaism."

(Who could blame her?!)

Bukhari:V5B59N459 "I entered the Mosque, saw Abu, sat beside him and asked about sex. Abu Said said, 'We went out with Allah's Apostle and we received female slaves from among the captives. We desired women and we loved to do coitus interruptus.'"


Ishaq:517 “When the Apostle enslaved Safiyah on his way out of town, she was beautified and combed, putting her in a fitting state for the Messenger. The Apostle passed the night with her in his tent. Abu Ayyub, girt with his sword, guarded the Apostle, going round the tent until he saw him emerge in the morning. Abu said, ‘I was afraid for you with this woman for you have killed her father, her husband, and her people.”

And why do muzzies think this is okay?

Qur'an 33:50 [/i]“O Prophet! We have made lawful to you all the wives to whom you have paid dowers [with stolen property]; and those whom your hands possess out of the prisoners of war spoils whom Allah has assigned to you; and daughters of your paternal uncles and aunts, and daughters of your maternal uncles and aunts, who migrated with you; and any believing woman who dedicates her soul to the Prophet if the Prophet wishes her; this is a privilege for you only, and not for the rest of the Believers; We know what We have appointed for them as to their wives and the captives whom they possess; in order that there should be no difficulty for you and that you should be free from blame.”[/i]

This is nothing short of legitimizing slavery, pedophilia, incest and rape.  What a lovely religion.

Here's a pearl from your disguting Hadith, that proves how "advanced" it is:

Bukhari:V4B55N616 “Allah's Apostle said, ‘The Prophet Moses was a shy person and used to cover his body. An Israeli insulted him, saying, “He covers it because of some defect like leprosy or scrotal hernia.” Allah wished to clear Moses of this allegation, so one day he took off his clothes, put them on a stone and started taking a bath. When he moved towards his clothes the stone took them and fled. Moses picked up his staff and ran after the stone saying, “O stone! Give me back my clothes!” He reached some Israelis who saw him naked, and found him to be the best of what Allah had created. The stone stopped there and Moses took his garments and started hitting the stone with his stick. By Allah, the stone still has some traces of the hitting, three, four or five marks. This was what Allah meant when he revealed the surah saying: “O you who believe! Be you not like those who annoyed Moses. Allah proved his innocence of that which they alleged.”'

A retarded 5-year-old could come up with something more intelligent.

Here's some material for your "research", little muzzie girl:

In Sahih Muslim, Book 8 Chapter 22 in the section on Al 'Azl or Incomplete Sexual Intercourse, Muhammad told his Companions to go ahead and have illicit sex with their captive married women without practicing coitus interruptus (al-'azl).  There did not seem to be a question whether or not it was morally right to have sex with these women who were married to another man.  It was assumed that these adulterous affair were  approved by Muhammad and Allah, since these immoral acts were sanctioned in the Qur'an. The only real question was the adultery technique itself. The Muslim men were worried that they might get their female victims pregnant.  And, if their female victims became pregnant, then their ransom value would be diminished or lost completely.  So, in the minds of Muhammad's followers, they faced a dilemma of either 1) practicing al-'Azl and maintaining their women's ransom value or 2) not using this caution during sexual intercourse and possibly losing their female slave's ransom value.  They wished they could avoid this dilemma, because they were keen to give full rein to their heathen lust as well as to receive a full ransom for their female captives.  Imam Muslim's records the traditional account of their dilemma and Muhammad's answer.

Muhammad was quick to give his answer, and his answer was music to their ears. Muhammad said that they did not have to practice al-'azl.  Now, on the surface, it seems that Muhammad's unlearned followers knew more about embryology and human reproduction than Muhammad himself.  They knew that semen was required in the process of human reproduction that is why they thought it would be better to practice al-'azl. It might be suggested that Muhammad had a lapse in memory.  But, this is unlikely, since this form of birth control was common knowledge throughout world history.  Rather, he seemed eager to reward his Companions with every sensual pleasure, as long as they willing plundered, killed, and enslaved anyone at his command.  In his cunning, he had the necessary revelation from Allah to make captive married women eligible sex providers (Qur'an 4:24) for his Companions who lacked moral self-control.



Study http://www.muhammadanism.org/ diligently, if you want to escape the clutches of your evil cult of death.

[Alex]

Notice how she didn't reply.

[fjack]

Islam is a drug that its followers are addicted to. These low IQ bipeds are injected by this drug at their early maggot stage. After they are completely addicted their are turned into murder bombers. Spare their children, I don't think so. These animals are not even fit to be slaves. They are sexual perverts, liars and just plain useless. You could not even use them for medical experiments. All muslims should be sent back to their stone age countiries and these countries then should be quarratined as you would any filthy illness and they should have no contact with the western world. No telephones, no internet, no tv or radio stations, nothing. Let them starve. If they get hungry enough let them eat each other. DEATH TO ISLAM. THE PROPHET IS A PERVERT.

[davkakach]

Actually, I think fjack's suggestion was rather humane.  He didn't propose your co-religionists' extermination, which is what should be done, but rather deportation and containment.  We're very moderate here at JTF.

[MarZutra]

I thought you were always saying THERES NO SUCH THING AS MODERATE, JUST EXTREMISTS.....

Or do you not consider yourself to fit in with your so loved saying....

Jews and Christians, well perhaps blacks, aren't offing innocent people all over the world in bombings, rapings, beheadings and protesting "BOMB BOMB U.S.A., BOMB BOMB UK!" "Death to America, Death to the Jews, Death to Israel"....  I know you say that you feel what your co-religionists are doing to be wrong, but why have we not seen those "peaceful" Muslims like yourself out vanquishing: bombing, beating, beheading, killing and/or expelling the "extremist" portion of your co-religionists instead of sitting quietly?  Is it because, you all might join in when you feel powerful enough to vanquish your Christian/Jewish/Hindu/Buddhist "invisible majorities" similar to the once Jewel of the Mediteranian: Beirut, Lebanon or what is currently on the move in Sudan or with the debased UN and that deleted Bill Clinton's help in Bosnia/Serbia/Croatia?  Just a question because I'd love to see Muslim/Muslim clashes openly in the street to get rid of those bad Muslims, as I'd like to see the good blacks out doing the same against their ni-gger brethren.  Just a dream I guess...

[kahaneloyalist]

Martuztra, understand that when "moderate" Muslims say they are against the violent acts of their co-religionists, the "moderates" may even mean they are against their coreligionists violence. But Sarah and the "moderates" arent against the cause of their coreligionists, at most they oppose their tactics but the "moderates" arent really against what other Muslims are doing only the degree of violence they are using

[davkakach]

No the moderates disagree on nearly everything their coreligionists are doing....if its bad by any  moral means...

We have tryed to stand up to these people and have failed....to stand up we must act with a degree of force..the thing is we don't want to be aggressive and add to more problems....it is quite unlikekly that we would win anyway. We do not want bloodshed and these people will go to hell so let them be we say but i also disagree with this. We as nice muslims are standing by and watching them do bad...it is our RESPONSIBILITY not to let them commit these crimes. Also it is not as simple as standing up a saying what you believe...it requires plan and thought. Which some people cannot spare for a good cause these days.

The Muslim "moderates" do not argue from a firm knowledge in the Qur'an---they argue on the basis of the "emotions" and "shared humanity" and "good will".  That's why the moderates will always lose, because the jihadists have the Qur'an, Hadith, Sira, Al Azhar University, and one thousand years of jihad writings on their side.  Jihadists did not hijack Islam, and they do not pervert its tenets.  When Zawahiri or Bin Laden appear on a tape, they tell the truth.  It is George Bush and other cowards who tell us lies about the "religion of peace".  Islam has always been about jihad, conquest, and subjugation of infidels.  Jihad is the most noble activity in which a Muslim can engage, and that is according to Muhammad (piss be upon him).  No amount of living in denial will change this fact, little girl.  Wake up and smell the coffee.

[MarZutra]

im awake already thats why i don't need coffee and therefore can't smell it..ok that was lame

Emotions and good will i believe are stronger then anything......bin laden sucks..hes just an old guy with a dialysis machine and a tangly beard...

Very good Sarah, I wish to also inform you that what Dav states about Islam is exactly true.  The "Reformation" the ignorant wishes for Muslims to become more "Muslim" is not just in that for there to be peace Muslims must become less "Muslim" and more secular or "Christianized" or even "Liberalized" and not more Orthodox if there is to be peace.  Islam is as Dav accurately states and was already reformed by Muhammad ibn Abd al Wahhab who wanted Muslims to be more true to the teachings and actions the "Prophet" Mohammed as he is to be seen as a role model for young Muslims.  Too if you wish to check the facts of Islam one would tend to believe that year 1 on the Islamic Calender would be for either the birth or death of Mohammed or perhaps the founding of Islam.  The fact of the matter is, the Islamic Calender starts when Mohammed stopped preaching but started acting on his preaching toward making; conquest, rape, murder, genocide, robbery, slavery of any non-Muslim: Dar Al Islam vs Dar Al Harb.  Year one was the beginning of the political and expansionist pure power intentions of Mohammed "Religion of Peace"...

Truth is substantiated by knowledged based fact while an un-truth is propagated through molested intentions.......Marzutra

[MarZutra]

Martuztra, understand that when "moderate" Muslims say they are against the violent acts of their co-religionists, the "moderates" may even mean they are against their coreligionists violence. But Sarah and the "moderates" arent against the cause of their coreligionists, at most they oppose their tactics but the "moderates" arent really against what other Muslims are doing only the degree of violence they are using

Absolutely, I totally agree.  I think I said something similar on another page.  I totally agree.  Islam is a religion of death, desceit, subversion and slavery.  Enjoy Robert Spencer's "Politically Incorrect Guide To Isalm":

M

[Rhuan]

Spencer is great.

[MasterWolf1]

The so called Moderate Muslim are cheerleaders for Al Queda, Hamas and the rest of the Islamic murdering pigs. There is no moderation or exceptence of others in Islam Sarah this nonsense doesn't go far around here.

[davkakach]

i don't support al-qaeda or hamas or any other terrorist organisation for a matter of fact. So what would i have been??

Being a woman, in the eyes of Islam you count less than a crippled, stray dog, regardless of your views.  From an Islamic viewpoint, you are merely a mobile incubator for producing Muslim babies, and a sex toy for Muslim men.

However, if you were a man, then I could tell you that the Qur'an devotes an entire Sura, (#63 - The Hypocrites or Munafiqun) to peaceful Muslims like you.

63:2 "They have made their oaths a screen, thus they obstruct (men) from the Path of Allah: truly evil are their deeds. That is because they believed, then they rejected Faith: So a seal was set on their hearts: therefore they understand not."

63:6 "It is equal to them whether you ask forgiveness or not. Allah will never forgive them. Allah does not forgive the transgressing people."

A related Bukhari hadith:

Bukhari:V4B52N260 "If a Muslim discards his faith, kill him."

A related Ishaq hadith:

Ishaq:372 "When he went out, Abd Allah bin Ubayy [the man who had advised against leaving town] came back with 300 men, saying, ‘We do not know why we should get ourselves killed here.' So he went back to Medina with the Hypocrites [peaceful Muslims] and doubters who followed him. Abd Allah bin Amr said, ‘Allah curse you, enemies of Allah. Allah will let us manage without you.'"

A "peaceful" Muslim is such a "bad" person, he is considered Allah’s enemy.  And indeed, the Hypocrites are lumped together with the polytheists and "the hottest fires of hell are reserved for them."

Islam forces a Muslim to choose sides.  But again, this applies only to Muslim men, because nobody asks Muslim women's opinion---they are chattel, wombs with legs, and sex toys for men.  A wonderful religion your parents chose for you.

[MarZutra]

"Islam forces a Muslim to choose sides.  But again, this applies only to Muslim men, because nobody asks Muslim women's opinion---they are chattel, wombs with legs, and sex toys for men.  A wonderful religion your parents chose for you."

I think its true that muslim womens opinions are not voiced and the men think themselves superior but i do not believe that they are treated like sex toys for men. I haven't heard of anybody that has been treated like that and i myself have never been dismissed as something like that...

Go visit the Islamic World and you shall see much worse than that.  When I was in Kuwait I saw an Arab driving his truck down the road with his goat in the front seat and his wife and female children in the back of the truck like cattle.  Too when I was in Egypt, I saw the man sitting on his ass smoking that bong type thing while his wife and female children were working in the fields.  When we arrived back the man was still smoking and talking with the other Arab men while the men were being served their rice, vegetable and pita mixture upon which the females had to sit at the back and watch until they were finnished and then they were able to eat....only after they cleaned up.  I could go one with less "tolerant" behavior of "equality" but I think I'll stop here.....

[davkakach]

"Islam forces a Muslim to choose sides.  But again, this applies only to Muslim men, because nobody asks Muslim women's opinion---they are chattel, wombs with legs, and sex toys for men.  A wonderful religion your parents chose for you."

I think its true that muslim womens opinions are not voiced and the men think themselves superior but i do not believe that they are treated like sex toys for men. I haven't heard of anybody that has been treated like that and i myself have never been dismissed as something like that...

Check out http://www.homa.org/

[MarZutra]

Check out http://www.homa.org/

That is a very good site Dav.  I only would have to ask is what are her intentions to remain a Muslim looking to bring more "tolerance" to Islam or is she a feminist Communist activist working to further Socialism/Communism etc.?  I don't know which would be worse Islam or Communism in the end they both mean stupidity and death.  She is doing a very good service to humanity in educating the Infidel to the truth of Islam.  I still cannot understand why American and other Western World leaders lie and appease, like Jimmy Carter, to these rag headed [censored]?

"They differed with me over what times we are living in. It is not a democracy when a man can talk about politics without anyone threatening him.  Democracy is when a woman can talk of her lover without anyone killing her." - Dr. Sauad M. Al-Sabah

Enjoy the pictures Sarah of Islamic tolerance towards their women.....(taken from the site above)

[fjack]

Dear sarah,
Think of all the 'good' you can do your ancestral dung heap if you blessed them and your families's presence. I am sure that you can do much better than our troops from keeping the muslim hordes from not invading us. Why did you and your tribe come to this once former liveable country? Was it the food stamps, welfare, medicare or the free education? Do you or your mammie and pappie have aids? We don't want you here. You are a plaque, like your animal prophet, a dog, an ape, a whore monger and a child molester mass murderer. I am sure that you and the Jew hating, White hating trash that you come from, will amount to anything in this country except something to wipe off my shoe.