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adam613:
I do apologize to you Christian Zionist for getting a little upset. and jumping to conclusions. I was a little upset at Gentile Lady for praising the Jewish community for basically always given in to what the women demands. There are some men that take tremendous advandage of women and aren't good husbands and this shouldn't be tolerated but there are some Jewish men who have been treated badly also simply because they are born of the male gender and the Rabbi's have to show how good they are to women unfortunately at another man's expense. They are also those in the middle ground where Jewish women who intentionally marry Jewish men that everybody tells them they shouldn't marry and then later on complain. As a guy who is a decent person this bothers me when I see Jewish women who marry men that don't have character and it doesn't take much to see this and then later on want a divorce and have children that have little contact with their father.

I have seen much harm done in Jewish families by basically creates an environment in which the man is a sitting duck for whatever the women desires whether it is good evil or in the middle. Furthermore, Jewish men cannot do anything when for whatever reason a Jewish women is mistreating their children and this also is very bad.

In terms of your quotes from the bible. I do believe it is generally true that men should assume leadership roles although the world being what it is in some circumstances (due to war, a society that is very hostile to men or other odd circumstance) it does sometimes happen that a women is better suited then any man. Chaim Ben Pesach himself is a single man preaching and that isn't the best either but again the world being what it is in this unusual case Chaim is a better spokesman that any man that is married and has a wife and children.

To expand on this point, I am sure you are aware of the story of Lot where because of homosexuality g-d destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah but saved Lot and his two daughters. His two daughters thought that the whole world was destroyed as they did not know the prophecy and therefore they had intercourse with their father because they thought nobody was left in the world and g-d rewarding them with nations that came from them. Even though normally this is a heinous sin. (Genesis 20: 30-38 has the whole story.)

I do believe women should use their talents in the supply and demand world but do believe people have the right to hire who they want and who they think will in the end be the most productive for them at that specific job.


LAST POINT: I GUESS CHAIM GAVE THIS IMPRESSION TOO BY SAYING THAT MEN ARE RABBI's BECAUSE MEN WOULD LUST MORE IF IT WAS WOMEN. BUT THAT CAN"T BE THE ONLY REASON AND IF IT WAS THEN REALLY MEN DO OPPRESS WOMEN BECAUSE THEY TAKE JOBS THAT WOMEN ARE MORE QUALIFIED THEN THEY ARE SIMPLY BECAUSE WOMEN LUST LESS THEN MEN DO. JUDAISM DOES BELIEVE IN REAL JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS AND THAT IS NOT REAL JUSTICE OR FAIRNESS.

TheCoon:
I know most Jewish men would rather die than hit a woman.

Christians probably have a higher instance of beating women than Jews simply because there are blacks, hispanics, others who call themselves Christian andwould tend to abuse more than white or asian Christians.

GentileLady:

--- Quote from: adam613 on November 29, 2006, 10:44:27 PM ---I do apologize to you Christian Zionist for getting a little upset. and jumping to conclusions. I was a little upset at Gentile Lady for praising the Jewish community for basically always given in to what the women demands.
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And I think you read more into my posts than was really there.  Where did I praise the community for giving in to an unreasonable demand for a divorce? 

There are undeniably times when the husband is simply a jerk and refuses to grant the get out of spite.  My post was directed to that instance.  Now stop jumping to conclusions and imputing motives that are simply not there.

Christian Zionist:
Thanks Adam613 for understanding!  You are one of the best posters in the JTF forum.

We Jews and Christians should unite to fight the invasion of humanism in the form of feminism in our religious establishments.

Feminism is attacking our Judeo-Christian traditions like never before! A few years ago YWCA (Young Women's "Christian" Association) elected Patricia Ireland, the former NOW (National Organization of Women) as its leader.  Finally after intense pressure from Conservative Christians that avowed lesbian was dismissed.  These are end times.   Torah gives us guidance!

Women should be relieved from the military duty too.  Biblical judge Deborah gave counsel to Barak to lead a war but never actually took part in the war.

G-d's laws set the standards to us and we should not allow the secular humanists to water down G-d's laws.

adam613:
>And I think you read more into my posts than was really there.

That is possible and I apologize. I guess someone told me recently that in nonjewish circles and in some Christian circles a man at one time culd divorce a wife and not compensate which isn't right and maybe that was what you were referring to. Is this true, gentile woman? I apologize for jumping to conclusions.

I also thank you gentile lady foryour comments on Rick Santorum and the extent to which Rick Santorum supported that monster Arlen Spector. Thank goodness Santorum lost the election.

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