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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2008, 08:30:45 AM »
WTF? Hang on I will help you out here, Ron Paul so great, he is a MD, and delivered 4000 babies, and served 5 years in the US military, oh suck , kiss, crawl on my hands and knees............. ::)

He is a Neo Nazi scum bag Get Over it!



well, the point tha should be taken about Ron paul is not whether or not he is a Nazi...Massuah gave me a good spanking about what a Nazi is...

the problem with Ron Paul is that he blames our country for the craziness of the Muzzies...So whatever he is or isn't..I know what he is.  He is someone who doesn't know history and doesn't know Muzzies...he must be stopped from spreading terrible lies.  We did not cause 9/11...The Muzzies did.  The Muzzies hate us because of their own culture...not because of us hanging out in the Mid east.  It's like when the Israelis blamed themselves for the Palistinian issue...except it's all THEIR fault..not Israel's...
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2008, 08:35:09 AM »
WTF? Hang on I will help you out here, Ron Paul so great, he is a MD, and delivered 4000 babies, and served 5 years in the US military, oh suck , kiss, crawl on my hands and knees............. ::)

He is a Neo Nazi scum bag Get Over it!



well, the point tha should be taken about Ron paul is not whether or not he is a Nazi...Massuah gave me a good spanking about what a Nazi is...

the problem with Ron Paul is that he blames our country for the craziness of the Muzzies...So whatever he is or isn't..I know what he is.  He is someone who doesn't know history and doesn't know Muzzies...he must be stopped from spreading terrible lies.  We did not cause 9/11...The Muzzies did.  The Muzzies hate us because of their own culture...not because of us hanging out in the Mid east.  It's like when the Israelis blamed themselves for the Palistinian issue...except it's all THEIR fault..not Israel's...

He is a neo nazi that is never once dismissed on his forum.

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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2008, 08:38:01 AM »
WTF? Hang on I will help you out here, Ron Paul so great, he is a MD, and delivered 4000 babies, and served 5 years in the US military, oh suck , kiss, crawl on my hands and knees............. ::)

He is a Neo Nazi scum bag Get Over it!



well, the point tha should be taken about Ron paul is not whether or not he is a Nazi...Massuah gave me a good spanking about what a Nazi is...

the problem with Ron Paul is that he blames our country for the craziness of the Muzzies...So whatever he is or isn't..I know what he is.  He is someone who doesn't know history and doesn't know Muzzies...he must be stopped from spreading terrible lies.  We did not cause 9/11...The Muzzies did.  The Muzzies hate us because of their own culture...not because of us hanging out in the Mid east.  It's like when the Israelis blamed themselves for the Palistinian issue...except it's all THEIR fault..not Israel's...

He is a neo nazi that is never once dismissed on his forum.

And I'm saying, whether one wants to agree or disagere that he is a Nazi, isn't half the point. It's the fact that is foreign policy with the Arabs and Muzzies is terrible for this country and the world.  He wants to retreat from the very brutal enemies who wants to destroy us. He actually thinks that it will bring peace and reconciliation with the Arabs and Muzzies if we did that!  That's the the real problem with him!
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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2008, 08:42:34 AM »
 On the surface, Ron Paul has good ideas.  But ultimately, his support is actually from left wingers. There is a reason for that.  I just wish Tancredo and Hunter had the internet support Ron Paul has.
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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2008, 08:55:36 AM »
WTF? Hang on I will help you out here, Ron Paul so great, he is a MD, and delivered 4000 babies, and served 5 years in the US military, oh suck , kiss, crawl on my hands and knees............. ::)

He is a Neo Nazi scum bag Get Over it!



well, the point tha should be taken about Ron paul is not whether or not he is a Nazi...Massuah gave me a good spanking about what a Nazi is...

the problem with Ron Paul is that he blames our country for the craziness of the Muzzies...So whatever he is or isn't..I know what he is.  He is someone who doesn't know history and doesn't know Muzzies...he must be stopped from spreading terrible lies.  We did not cause 9/11...The Muzzies did.  The Muzzies hate us because of their own culture...not because of us hanging out in the Mid east.  It's like when the Israelis blamed themselves for the Palistinian issue...except it's all THEIR fault..not Israel's...

He is a neo nazi that is never once dismissed on his forum.

And I'm saying, whether one wants to agree or disagere that he is a Nazi, isn't half the point. It's the fact that is foreign policy with the Arabs and Muzzies is terrible for this country and the world.  He wants to retreat from the very brutal enemies who wants to destroy us. He actually thinks that it will bring peace and reconciliation with the Arabs and Muzzies if we did that!  That's the the real problem with him!

Thats the whole point Doc, thats what the Neo Nazis want. Its apart of the bigger picture.

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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2008, 09:28:35 AM »
After the abandonment of Tancredo I was without a candidate so I looked much deeper into the rest, including Paul.
I actually can support many of his domestic issues but he is so far off base with islam it is scary. The thought that US foreign policy is what causes muslims to hate us is beyond absurd. Another politician who obviously never read the quran or hadiths. I guess it was our foreign policy back in the early 1800's that caused those upset muslims to enslave American merchants in the Barbary states that the US marines were created for to go rescue. I do agree we should not be involved in any nation building other than our own, and yes, this even includes allies.
I would even welcome getting the hell out of all their cesspool countries, on the condition that they all get the hell out of ours.
He(Paul) did say something that made sense. Whether he was being deceiving or not I don't know. He claimed our support for Israel actually hurts them with their muzzie enemies. Not that they hate them because of American support, we all know they(muzzies) will always hate Israel, and everyone else, whether there is American support or not. The point that he made is that Israel will often hold back from taking aggressive actions because of the wishes and whims of the US leadership. Their deferment to the US does and will hurt  them when necessary retaliation or just self defense is needed. This was kind of proven during the Gulf War when Israel did not respond to incoming missiles at the US request. Again, whether he was sincere in this or not I do not know but it is an extremely valid point.
With all that said, even though I support many of his domestic issues, I can never support a candidate who is totally naive when it comes to islam. The problem with this is I still do not have a candidate. After seeing the debate last night I am even more disappointed, as every one of them that mentioned islam all had the usual disclaimers,(a small minority, hijackers of religion, etc.).
Huckabee? I must be missing something here. I have absolutely no confidence in him.
Let em all in McCain, can't make up my mind Romney, muslim apologist staffers Thompson, domestically liberal Rudy, I don't know why I'm here Richardson, populist in a mansion Edwards, satanic Clinton and Obama the muslim.
This country is in deep trouble.
SerbChicago, I will listen to what Chaim has to say just as anyone else here will but to vote for someone just because he tells you to, or to vote for anyone just because someone, anyone, tells you to, is very frightening. This is a big resaon we are in the mess we are in, too many people do not think for themselves.
As for Paul being a nazi or not, honestly I would not know, it seems many here seem to believe so. If there are reasons to back this claim up then I guess he might be. If the reason is just because he was seen in a photo with some neo-nazi or was sent contributions from such a group is not really a valid argument. The black man in Long Island that shot a white teen who was at his house with a small mob looking to do harm to his son and then shot and killed the white teen in a scuffle was just convicted for murder is having his conviction protested by black groups such as NOI and Al Sharpton. As hard as it is for me to say this, in this instance, NOI and Sharpton are right. I would have done the same thing in a similar situation. Does that make me a NOI member or a sharpton supporter?
OK, before I get attacked here I am in no way defending Ron Paul, his idiotic view on our islamic enemies is enough to turn me off even if he was right on every other single issue, I am just trying to make a few points that I was not sure were being made here.
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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #31 on: January 06, 2008, 10:13:58 AM »
After the abandonment of Tancredo I was without a candidate so I looked much deeper into the rest, including Paul.
I actually can support many of his domestic issues but he is so far off base with islam it is scary. The thought that US foreign policy is what causes muslims to hate us is beyond absurd. Another politician who obviously never read the quran or hadiths. I guess it was our foreign policy back in the early 1800's that caused those upset muslims to enslave American merchants in the Barbary states that the US marines were created for to go rescue. I do agree we should not be involved in any nation building other than our own, and yes, this even includes allies.
I would even welcome getting the hell out of all their cesspool countries, on the condition that they all get the hell out of ours.
He(Paul) did say something that made sense. Whether he was being deceiving or not I don't know. He claimed our support for Israel actually hurts them with their muzzie enemies. Not that they hate them because of American support, we all know they(muzzies) will always hate Israel, and everyone else, whether there is American support or not. The point that he made is that Israel will often hold back from taking aggressive actions because of the wishes and whims of the US leadership. Their deferment to the US does and will hurt  them when necessary retaliation or just self defense is needed. This was kind of proven during the Gulf War when Israel did not respond to incoming missiles at the US request. Again, whether he was sincere in this or not I do not know but it is an extremely valid point.
With all that said, even though I support many of his domestic issues, I can never support a candidate who is totally naive when it comes to islam. The problem with this is I still do not have a candidate. After seeing the debate last night I am even more disappointed, as every one of them that mentioned islam all had the usual disclaimers,(a small minority, hijackers of religion, etc.).
Huckabee? I must be missing something here. I have absolutely no confidence in him.
Let em all in McCain, can't make up my mind Romney, muslim apologist staffers Thompson, domestically liberal Rudy, I don't know why I'm here Richardson, populist in a mansion Edwards, satanic Clinton and Obama the muslim.
This country is in deep trouble.
SerbChicago, I will listen to what Chaim has to say just as anyone else here will but to vote for someone just because he tells you to, or to vote for anyone just because someone, anyone, tells you to, is very frightening. This is a big resaon we are in the mess we are in, too many people do not think for themselves.
As for Paul being a nazi or not, honestly I would not know, it seems many here seem to believe so. If there are reasons to back this claim up then I guess he might be. If the reason is just because he was seen in a photo with some neo-nazi or was sent contributions from such a group is not really a valid argument. The black man in Long Island that shot a white teen who was at his house with a small mob looking to do harm to his son and then shot and killed the white teen in a scuffle was just convicted for murder is having his conviction protested by black groups such as NOI and Al Sharpton. As hard as it is for me to say this, in this instance, NOI and Sharpton are right. I would have done the same thing in a similar situation. Does that make me a NOI member or a sharpton supporter?
OK, before I get attacked here I am in no way defending Ron Paul, his idiotic view on our islamic enemies is enough to turn me off even if he was right on every other single issue, I am just trying to make a few points that I was not sure were being made here.


You haev a good point about pual and all of thse candidates.

However, in my opinion, the best choice to start with is a candidate who will be proactive on oil independence...We can bomb the heck out of everyone or say that we will, but that won't stop them. We need to render oil worthless. Huckabee comes the closest to pursuing that. i would say Guiliani is second. Those two will fight the Muzzies when we are attacked, I believe. 

Unfortunately you can't get everything these days from Republicans..so start wtih the single most important thing: fighting terror.  And if not by arial bombings, getting rid of oil.
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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #32 on: January 06, 2008, 10:21:35 AM »
I find Ron Paul to be a lot like Ross Perot. There's a part of them that look and sound appealing. But after a while, they look and sound like annoying and paranoid little chipmonks. I think Ron Paul is very principled and is consistent with his principles. But he's also too wrapped up in this idea that we are responsible for causing terrorism on ourselves. I liked it when Fred Thomson, in last night's debate, responded with a sarcastic remark to Paul stating, "So if we stop intervening in other countries affairs and stop printing money, that will solve the problem?"

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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #33 on: January 06, 2008, 10:29:01 AM »
I find Ron Paul to be a lot like Ross Perot. There's a part of them that look and sound appealing. But after a while, they look and sound like annoying and paranoid little chipmonks. I think Ron Paul is very principled and is consistent with his principles. But he's also too wrapped up in this idea that we are responsible for causing terrorism on ourselves. I liked it when Fred Thomson, in last night's debate, responded with a sarcastic remark to Paul stating, "So if we stop intervening in other countries affairs and stop printing money, that will solve the problem?"
I don't care for Thomson either but he was in rare form last night. That was very good when he said that. He put one of the other candidates in their place also but I don't recall the exact issue. He must have taken his Geritol last night
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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #34 on: January 06, 2008, 10:35:00 AM »
I find Ron Paul to be a lot like Ross Perot. There's a part of them that look and sound appealing. But after a while, they look and sound like annoying and paranoid little chipmonks. I think Ron Paul is very principled and is consistent with his principles. But he's also too wrapped up in this idea that we are responsible for causing terrorism on ourselves. I liked it when Fred Thomson, in last night's debate, responded with a sarcastic remark to Paul stating, "So if we stop intervening in other countries affairs and stop printing money, that will solve the problem?"
I don't care for Thomson either but he was in rare form last night. That was very good when he said that. He put one of the other candidates in their place also but I don't recall the exact issue. He must have taken his Geritol last night

I can actually picture him being a good spokesperson on Geritol commercials :) Bob Dole for Viagra and Thomson for Geritol, why not? We should also have Ron Paul be a spokesperson for Haldol ;)

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« Reply #35 on: January 06, 2008, 10:37:04 AM »
all of you who support ron paul are on the wrong site.this site is created by mr.chaim and if he say that ron is bad and jtf support huckabee, there is nothing else to it!this is not democratcy what mr.chaim says that it final,if you can't deal with it go somewhere else until electon is over.

This is not true. While Chaim is the primary leader of JTF, he is not a dictator and he welcomes dissent and debate.

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« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2008, 10:41:36 AM »
Being antiwar does not mean he won't take action against Terrorists.  I guess you would construe Bush's war on Iraq leftism, as it is an unnecessary war that is costing us much money, essentially a giant government program, which is leftist.

What's wrong with the word "neo-con"?  They are actual people who have royally wrecked this country. 


It's wrong because he blames it on Jews. He uses Neo-Con as a code word for Jews.



Can you back that up?  That's as conspiracy theoryesqe as the truther's.  There are actual neocons, some who are Jews, some who are not.  It's funny Ambiortix calls him a leftist, when neoconservatism, according to Michael Lind, in fact has its roots in Leftism.   

Ron Paul, in his article "Neo-Conned" claims that neocons unconditionally support the Likud Party.  That exposes the fact that he uses "neocons" as code words for Jews.  Just as well, it is absurd to connect neoconservativsm with lenninism and bolshevism (which is what many Buchananites and others claim today).  Of course the neocons are anti-Israel, and support the pro-democracy policies of Woodrow Wilson, but to somehow connect that with lenninism and bolshevism is absurd.

It is stupid of him to equate neocons with leninists and to say that the neocons support the Likud. But that still doesn't prove he's using neocons as a code for Jews..I need more proof..I'm almost there guys

I personally don't think there's enough evidence that his use of the word "Neocons" is a code word for Jews. But I do suspect that his use of "Neocons" is more likely a code word for Zionists. Keep in mind, Zionists doesn't necessarily refer to Jews and many non-Jews are stronger Zionists than many Jews. So I think that it might be more accurate to state that Paul is more Anti-zionist than he is anti-Jewish.

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« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2008, 10:43:56 AM »
I find Ron Paul to be a lot like Ross Perot. There's a part of them that look and sound appealing. But after a while, they look and sound like annoying and paranoid little chipmonks. I think Ron Paul is very principled and is consistent with his principles. But he's also too wrapped up in this idea that we are responsible for causing terrorism on ourselves. I liked it when Fred Thomson, in last night's debate, responded with a sarcastic remark to Paul stating, "So if we stop intervening in other countries affairs and stop printing money, that will solve the problem?"
I don't care for Thomson either but he was in rare form last night. That was very good when he said that. He put one of the other candidates in their place also but I don't recall the exact issue. He must have taken his Geritol last night

I can actually picture him being a good spokesperson on Geritol commercials :) Bob Dole for Viagra and Thomson for Geritol, why not? We should also have Ron Paul be a spokesperson for Haldol ;)
Ron Paul looks as if he was made for that job. Honestly I was looking at the three front runners last night and I have to say Its either Romney or Huckabee. Rudy seems to have lost something he had a few weeks ago. It seems since he took sick a few weeks ago he hasn't been the same. I am starting to think Chaim is right Huckabee is about the best in the bunch for the viable Republican candidates.
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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2008, 10:52:40 AM »
Being antiwar does not mean he won't take action against Terrorists.  I guess you would construe Bush's war on Iraq leftism, as it is an unnecessary war that is costing us much money, essentially a giant government program, which is leftist.

What's wrong with the word "neo-con"?  They are actual people who have royally wrecked this country. 


It's wrong because he blames it on Jews. He uses Neo-Con as a code word for Jews.



Can you back that up?  That's as conspiracy theoryesqe as the truther's.  There are actual neocons, some who are Jews, some who are not.  It's funny Ambiortix calls him a leftist, when neoconservatism, according to Michael Lind, in fact has its roots in Leftism.   

Ron Paul, in his article "Neo-Conned" claims that neocons unconditionally support the Likud Party.  That exposes the fact that he uses "neocons" as code words for Jews.  Just as well, it is absurd to connect neoconservativsm with lenninism and bolshevism (which is what many Buchananites and others claim today).  Of course the neocons are anti-Israel, and support the pro-democracy policies of Woodrow Wilson, but to somehow connect that with lenninism and bolshevism is absurd.

It is stupid of him to equate neocons with leninists and to say that the neocons support the Likud. But that still doesn't prove he's using neocons as a code for Jews..I need more proof..I'm almost there guys

I personally don't think there's enough evidence that his use of the word "Neocons" is a code word for Jews. But I do suspect that his use of "Neocons" is more likely a code word for Zionists. Keep in mind, Zionists doesn't necessarily refer to Jews and many non-Jews are stronger Zionists than many Jews. So I think that it might be more accurate to state that Paul is more Anti-zionist than he is anti-Jewish.
I don't know what anti he is however he just has this obsolete fortress America concept that can't work in todays world. Add to that he has socialist notions that border on total redistribution of the wealth. All he kept saying last night is if America didn't fight wars there would be money for social programs.
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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2008, 11:07:24 AM »
After the abandonment of Tancredo I was without a candidate so I looked much deeper into the rest, including Paul.
I actually can support many of his domestic issues but he is so far off base with islam it is scary. The thought that US foreign policy is what causes muslims to hate us is beyond absurd. Another politician who obviously never read the quran or hadiths. I guess it was our foreign policy back in the early 1800's that caused those upset muslims to enslave American merchants in the Barbary states that the US marines were created for to go rescue. I do agree we should not be involved in any nation building other than our own, and yes, this even includes allies.
I would even welcome getting the hell out of all their cesspool countries, on the condition that they all get the hell out of ours.
He(Paul) did say something that made sense. Whether he was being deceiving or not I don't know. He claimed our support for Israel actually hurts them with their muzzie enemies. Not that they hate them because of American support, we all know they(muzzies) will always hate Israel, and everyone else, whether there is American support or not. The point that he made is that Israel will often hold back from taking aggressive actions because of the wishes and whims of the US leadership. Their deferment to the US does and will hurt  them when necessary retaliation or just self defense is needed. This was kind of proven during the Gulf War when Israel did not respond to incoming missiles at the US request. Again, whether he was sincere in this or not I do not know but it is an extremely valid point.
With all that said, even though I support many of his domestic issues, I can never support a candidate who is totally naive when it comes to islam. The problem with this is I still do not have a candidate. After seeing the debate last night I am even more disappointed, as every one of them that mentioned islam all had the usual disclaimers,(a small minority, hijackers of religion, etc.).
Huckabee? I must be missing something here. I have absolutely no confidence in him.
Let em all in McCain, can't make up my mind Romney, muslim apologist staffers Thompson, domestically liberal Rudy, I don't know why I'm here Richardson, populist in a mansion Edwards, satanic Clinton and Obama the muslim.
This country is in deep trouble.
SerbChicago, I will listen to what Chaim has to say just as anyone else here will but to vote for someone just because he tells you to, or to vote for anyone just because someone, anyone, tells you to, is very frightening. This is a big resaon we are in the mess we are in, too many people do not think for themselves.
As for Paul being a nazi or not, honestly I would not know, it seems many here seem to believe so. If there are reasons to back this claim up then I guess he might be. If the reason is just because he was seen in a photo with some neo-nazi or was sent contributions from such a group is not really a valid argument. The black man in Long Island that shot a white teen who was at his house with a small mob looking to do harm to his son and then shot and killed the white teen in a scuffle was just convicted for murder is having his conviction protested by black groups such as NOI and Al Sharpton. As hard as it is for me to say this, in this instance, NOI and Sharpton are right. I would have done the same thing in a similar situation. Does that make me a NOI member or a sharpton supporter?
OK, before I get attacked here I am in no way defending Ron Paul, his idiotic view on our islamic enemies is enough to turn me off even if he was right on every other single issue, I am just trying to make a few points that I was not sure were being made here.

listen to me i know in my guts that you are rons man.first i have look all candidates and i am greatly invalved in this issues and i have to agree with mr.chaim that ron is a disaster for america,europe,middle east and whole world with his opinions about forigen policys even one domestic!just people,like your self,think that we follow like sheep,but you self youare free thinker ( in my opinion like paul).aren't you the one that is on wrong side of street?aren't you the one who think like liberal(ron paul is ultimatly liberal,it just apear to happend that he have R next to his name,just like mc'caine)?i am member of family reasrch program(i don't kno have you heard from them,but if you didn't google them and you will find out that they support republicans,pro-life,pro-marredge,pro-israel and they are evangelical organizacion)and they have run a poll and in first lace was mitt romney second was huckabee.3.we are(as jtf)movement,just like political party and if our president(mr.chaim)says that JTF supports huckabee,then that is it!we can not have as a movement diferences among our self,becose of that we will faul a part with in!!!!!!!i don't know do you know that Iowa is a evangelical state and thet is a reason why huckabee won,romney second!he is a pastor,don't you think that would save america from liberals,hollywood and gay activist?!most of people belive in G-d(in G-d we trust)and this is our man(for jews and like my self orthodox).4.JTF is only organization who is trying to save my country(save kosovo forum)and if mr.chaim says huckabee(i think he is more wiseer than you in this matter,him self is invalved in this greatly) then i am for him too.5. and most of us are for huckabee and who are you to tell me something!how old are you anyway?!6.i am listener of radio talk show savage nation(michael savage,whohim self is a jew and support my contry)and he is for romney,so in any case all people i support are for huckabee or romney,so if any of them wins i didn't loose!6.if you wont to be JTF-er this is the time to get in this wagone of ours or you will be left on station strangled with others just like Ron paul of yours and others lierals as michae savage says LIBERALIZAM IS A MENTAL DISORDER and my friend my diagnose is you got it!!!!!!   that is all from me!p.s.some of this shoul open mind to Daniel too!
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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2008, 12:40:52 PM »
After the abandonment of Tancredo I was without a candidate so I looked much deeper into the rest, including Paul.
I actually can support many of his domestic issues but he is so far off base with islam it is scary. The thought that US foreign policy is what causes muslims to hate us is beyond absurd. Another politician who obviously never read the quran or hadiths. I guess it was our foreign policy back in the early 1800's that caused those upset muslims to enslave American merchants in the Barbary states that the US marines were created for to go rescue. I do agree we should not be involved in any nation building other than our own, and yes, this even includes allies.
I would even welcome getting the hell out of all their cesspool countries, on the condition that they all get the hell out of ours.
He(Paul) did say something that made sense. Whether he was being deceiving or not I don't know. He claimed our support for Israel actually hurts them with their muzzie enemies. Not that they hate them because of American support, we all know they(muzzies) will always hate Israel, and everyone else, whether there is American support or not. The point that he made is that Israel will often hold back from taking aggressive actions because of the wishes and whims of the US leadership. Their deferment to the US does and will hurt  them when necessary retaliation or just self defense is needed. This was kind of proven during the Gulf War when Israel did not respond to incoming missiles at the US request. Again, whether he was sincere in this or not I do not know but it is an extremely valid point.
With all that said, even though I support many of his domestic issues, I can never support a candidate who is totally naive when it comes to islam. The problem with this is I still do not have a candidate. After seeing the debate last night I am even more disappointed, as every one of them that mentioned islam all had the usual disclaimers,(a small minority, hijackers of religion, etc.).
Huckabee? I must be missing something here. I have absolutely no confidence in him.
Let em all in McCain, can't make up my mind Romney, muslim apologist staffers Thompson, domestically liberal Rudy, I don't know why I'm here Richardson, populist in a mansion Edwards, satanic Clinton and Obama the muslim.
This country is in deep trouble.
SerbChicago, I will listen to what Chaim has to say just as anyone else here will but to vote for someone just because he tells you to, or to vote for anyone just because someone, anyone, tells you to, is very frightening. This is a big resaon we are in the mess we are in, too many people do not think for themselves.
As for Paul being a nazi or not, honestly I would not know, it seems many here seem to believe so. If there are reasons to back this claim up then I guess he might be. If the reason is just because he was seen in a photo with some neo-nazi or was sent contributions from such a group is not really a valid argument. The black man in Long Island that shot a white teen who was at his house with a small mob looking to do harm to his son and then shot and killed the white teen in a scuffle was just convicted for murder is having his conviction protested by black groups such as NOI and Al Sharpton. As hard as it is for me to say this, in this instance, NOI and Sharpton are right. I would have done the same thing in a similar situation. Does that make me a NOI member or a sharpton supporter?
OK, before I get attacked here I am in no way defending Ron Paul, his idiotic view on our islamic enemies is enough to turn me off even if he was right on every other single issue, I am just trying to make a few points that I was not sure were being made here.

listen to me i know in my guts that you are rons man.first i have look all candidates and i am greatly invalved in this issues and i have to agree with mr.chaim that ron is a disaster for america,europe,middle east and whole world with his opinions about forigen policys even one domestic!just people,like your self,think that we follow like sheep,but you self youare free thinker ( in my opinion like paul).aren't you the one that is on wrong side of street?aren't you the one who think like liberal(ron paul is ultimatly liberal,it just apear to happend that he have R next to his name,just like mc'caine)?i am member of family reasrch program(i don't kno have you heard from them,but if you didn't google them and you will find out that they support republicans,pro-life,pro-marredge,pro-israel and they are evangelical organizacion)and they have run a poll and in first lace was mitt romney second was huckabee.3.we are(as jtf)movement,just like political party and if our president(mr.chaim)says that JTF supports huckabee,then that is it!we can not have as a movement diferences among our self,becose of that we will faul a part with in!!!!!!!i don't know do you know that Iowa is a evangelical state and thet is a reason why huckabee won,romney second!he is a pastor,don't you think that would save america from liberals,hollywood and gay activist?!most of people belive in G-d(in G-d we trust)and this is our man(for jews and like my self orthodox).4.JTF is only organization who is trying to save my country(save kosovo forum)and if mr.chaim says huckabee(i think he is more wiseer than you in this matter,him self is invalved in this greatly) then i am for him too.5. and most of us are for huckabee and who are you to tell me something!how old are you anyway?!6.i am listener of radio talk show savage nation(michael savage,whohim self is a jew and support my contry)and he is for romney,so in any case all people i support are for huckabee or romney,so if any of them wins i didn't loose!6.if you wont to be JTF-er this is the time to get in this wagone of ours or you will be left on station strangled with others just like Ron paul of yours and others lierals as michae savage says LIBERALIZAM IS A MENTAL DISORDER and my friend my diagnose is you got it!!!!!!   that is all from me!p.s.some of this shoul open mind to Daniel too!


Wow, you have obviously greatly misunderstood everything I have said.
1. I am not a Paul supporter, not by a long shot. I was a Tancredo supporter and know I am not very satisfied with any of the candidates. I thought I made that clear. I almost hurt myself laughing being called a liberal as anyone that knows me will know how amusing that is. Believe me, you gut is lying to you.
2. Yes, I have heard of the Family Research council, I have also listened to and read Michael Savage. I have also heard of and listened to many other organizations and people. I guess I am only supposed to listen to the ones that you deemed qualified?
3. Republican only because they have an R next to their name. I couldn't agree more, not only Paul but just about every Republican today. Go visit loyalistparty.com and see how much of a liberal letter R republican I am according to you.
4. Just so you know, I am also very involved, have been for over 30 years. I am also betting I am older than you, just a hunch.
5. I never told you what to do. In fact, just the opposite, I was stating that people should not automatically do what someone else tells them to without doing their own investigation first, no matter who is telling you to do it.
6. Huckabee will save us from gay activists, hollywood, etc. because he is a pastor? Wasn't Carter considered a very holy man? He did a whole lot of good, didn't he? Just because someone is, or isn't, a pastor/preacher/reverend, rabbi, etc. is not a reason I support or not support someone.
7. Maybe JTF is the only forum trying to save "your" country of Kosovo, and I wish them and Kosovo luck. My country is the USA and has been my families country for many many generations and that is the country I am most concerned with saving.
8. As for getting on the wagon as you call it, the only wagon I am on is the one that is headed for what is best for America. That includes a muslim exclusion act, declassifying islam as a religion, securing our borders, preserving our second amendment rights, true choice in education, death penalty for murderers and pedophiles, penalties for those who hire and or rent to illegal aliens, English as the official language of the land, rebuilding our military and treating them with the respect they deserve, ending affirmative action, lowering taxes, drilling in ANWR and so much more. I guess this makes me a liberal according to you because I do not like the same candidate you do. I am sure I have also been way more involved in the last 30 years than you have so "who are you to tell me something"!
9.I am still pretty amused here at being called a liberal. My diagnosis is that you are actually more of a nazi that you claim Ron Paul to be, who let me make this perfectly clear, I will never support because of his idiotic views on our islamic enemies, because you cannot bear to have anyone not to totally agree with everything you say.
10. Now, if you want to vote for Huckabee because Chaim tells you to, go ahead, that is your right. I will vote for the best candidate of what is available, it might be Huckabee, it might not, it won't be Paul.
11. I am not sure of what movement you are referring to. The only movement I am concerned with is the movement to secure a free,secure, islamic free and constitutional America for my children and their children's future. If the JTF movement is in line with this I support it, if not, I won't.
12. You should try not to assume you know someone when you obviously don't have a clue, just becasue they don't agree with everything you say.
13. Now forget about Daniel, hopefully this will open your mind, but somehow I seriously doubt it.
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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2008, 12:45:34 PM »
After the abandonment of Tancredo I was without a candidate so I looked much deeper into the rest, including Paul.
I actually can support many of his domestic issues but he is so far off base with islam it is scary. The thought that US foreign policy is what causes muslims to hate us is beyond absurd. Another politician who obviously never read the quran or hadiths. I guess it was our foreign policy back in the early 1800's that caused those upset muslims to enslave American merchants in the Barbary states that the US marines were created for to go rescue. I do agree we should not be involved in any nation building other than our own, and yes, this even includes allies.
I would even welcome getting the hell out of all their cesspool countries, on the condition that they all get the hell out of ours.
He(Paul) did say something that made sense. Whether he was being deceiving or not I don't know. He claimed our support for Israel actually hurts them with their muzzie enemies. Not that they hate them because of American support, we all know they(muzzies) will always hate Israel, and everyone else, whether there is American support or not. The point that he made is that Israel will often hold back from taking aggressive actions because of the wishes and whims of the US leadership. Their deferment to the US does and will hurt  them when necessary retaliation or just self defense is needed. This was kind of proven during the Gulf War when Israel did not respond to incoming missiles at the US request. Again, whether he was sincere in this or not I do not know but it is an extremely valid point.
With all that said, even though I support many of his domestic issues, I can never support a candidate who is totally naive when it comes to islam. The problem with this is I still do not have a candidate. After seeing the debate last night I am even more disappointed, as every one of them that mentioned islam all had the usual disclaimers,(a small minority, hijackers of religion, etc.).
Huckabee? I must be missing something here. I have absolutely no confidence in him.
Let em all in McCain, can't make up my mind Romney, muslim apologist staffers Thompson, domestically liberal Rudy, I don't know why I'm here Richardson, populist in a mansion Edwards, satanic Clinton and Obama the muslim.
This country is in deep trouble.
SerbChicago, I will listen to what Chaim has to say just as anyone else here will but to vote for someone just because he tells you to, or to vote for anyone just because someone, anyone, tells you to, is very frightening. This is a big resaon we are in the mess we are in, too many people do not think for themselves.
As for Paul being a nazi or not, honestly I would not know, it seems many here seem to believe so. If there are reasons to back this claim up then I guess he might be. If the reason is just because he was seen in a photo with some neo-nazi or was sent contributions from such a group is not really a valid argument. The black man in Long Island that shot a white teen who was at his house with a small mob looking to do harm to his son and then shot and killed the white teen in a scuffle was just convicted for murder is having his conviction protested by black groups such as NOI and Al Sharpton. As hard as it is for me to say this, in this instance, NOI and Sharpton are right. I would have done the same thing in a similar situation. Does that make me a NOI member or a sharpton supporter?
OK, before I get attacked here I am in no way defending Ron Paul, his idiotic view on our islamic enemies is enough to turn me off even if he was right on every other single issue, I am just trying to make a few points that I was not sure were being made here.

listen to me i know in my guts that you are rons man.first i have look all candidates and i am greatly invalved in this issues and i have to agree with mr.chaim that ron is a disaster for america,europe,middle east and whole world with his opinions about forigen policys even one domestic!just people,like your self,think that we follow like sheep,but you self youare free thinker ( in my opinion like paul).aren't you the one that is on wrong side of street?aren't you the one who think like liberal(ron paul is ultimatly liberal,it just apear to happend that he have R next to his name,just like mc'caine)?i am member of family reasrch program(i don't kno have you heard from them,but if you didn't google them and you will find out that they support republicans,pro-life,pro-marredge,pro-israel and they are evangelical organizacion)and they have run a poll and in first lace was mitt romney second was huckabee.3.we are(as jtf)movement,just like political party and if our president(mr.chaim)says that JTF supports huckabee,then that is it!we can not have as a movement diferences among our self,becose of that we will faul a part with in!!!!!!!i don't know do you know that Iowa is a evangelical state and thet is a reason why huckabee won,romney second!he is a pastor,don't you think that would save america from liberals,hollywood and gay activist?!most of people belive in G-d(in G-d we trust)and this is our man(for jews and like my self orthodox).4.JTF is only organization who is trying to save my country(save kosovo forum)and if mr.chaim says huckabee(i think he is more wiseer than you in this matter,him self is invalved in this greatly) then i am for him too.5. and most of us are for huckabee and who are you to tell me something!how old are you anyway?!6.i am listener of radio talk show savage nation(michael savage,whohim self is a jew and support my contry)and he is for romney,so in any case all people i support are for huckabee or romney,so if any of them wins i didn't loose!6.if you wont to be JTF-er this is the time to get in this wagone of ours or you will be left on station strangled with others just like Ron paul of yours and others lierals as michae savage says LIBERALIZAM IS A MENTAL DISORDER and my friend my diagnose is you got it!!!!!!   that is all from me!p.s.some of this shoul open mind to Daniel too!


Wow, you have obviously greatly misunderstood everything I have said.
1. I am not a Paul supporter, not by a long shot. I was a Tancredo supporter and know I am not very satisfied with any of the candidates. I thought I made that clear. I almost hurt myself laughing being called a liberal as anyone that knows me will know how amusing that is. Believe me, you gut is lying to you.
2. Yes, I have heard of the Family Research council, I have also listened to and read Michael Savage. I have also heard of and listened to many other organizations and people. I guess I am only supposed to listen to the ones that you deemed qualified?
3. Republican only because they have an R next to their name. I couldn't agree more, not only Paul but just about every Republican today. Go visit loyalistparty.com and see how much of a liberal letter R republican I am according to you.
4. Just so you know, I am also very involved, have been for over 30 years. I am also betting I am older than you, just a hunch.
5. I never told you what to do. In fact, just the opposite, I was stating that people should not automatically do what someone else tells them to without doing their own investigation first, no matter who is telling you to do it.
6. Huckabee will save us from gay activists, hollywood, etc. because he is a pastor? Wasn't Carter considered a very holy man? He did a whole lot of good, didn't he? Just because someone is, or isn't, a pastor/preacher/reverend, rabbi, etc. is not a reason I support or not support someone.
7. Maybe JTF is the only forum trying to save "your" country of Kosovo, and I wish them and Kosovo luck. My country is the USA and has been my families country for many many generations and that is the country I am most concerned with saving.
8. As for getting on the wagon as you call it, the only wagon I am on is the one that is headed for what is best for America. That includes a muslim exclusion act, declassifying islam as a religion, securing our borders, preserving our second amendment rights, true choice in education, death penalty for murderers and pedophiles, penalties for those who hire and or rent to illegal aliens, English as the official language of the land, rebuilding our military and treating them with the respect they deserve, ending affirmative action, lowering taxes, drilling in ANWR and so much more. I guess this makes me a liberal according to you because I do not like the same candidate you do. I am sure I have also been way more involved in the last 30 years than you have so "who are you to tell me something"!
9.I am still pretty amused here at being called a liberal. My diagnosis is that you are actually more of a nazi that you claim Ron Paul to be, who let me make this perfectly clear, I will never support because of his idiotic views on our islamic enemies, because you cannot bear to have anyone not to totally agree with everything you say.
10. Now, if you want to vote for Huckabee because Chaim tells you to, go ahead, that is your right. I will vote for the best candidate of what is available, it might be Huckabee, it might not, it won't be Paul.
11. I am not sure of what movement you are referring to. The only movement I am concerned with is the movement to secure a free,secure, islamic free and constitutional America for my children and their children's future. If the JTF movement is in line with this I support it, if not, I won't.
12. You should try not to assume you know someone when you obviously don't have a clue, just becasue they don't agree with everything you say.
13. Now forget about Daniel, hopefully this will open your mind, but somehow I seriously doubt it.

Chaim leaves it open and recommends we go for Huckabee. I like huckabee and guiliani..at this point, i want there to be a two way race between Huck and rudy...that way, whomever wins, there will be less of a dissapointment. I'm choosing a strong leader, one who is very eliminating oil or attempting to do it.  The second is i'm goign for the one who will fight back against the Arabs and  Muslims. Huck and Guiliani seem to be the best two in that dept even though they are quiet terrible..That being said, the other candidates are much worse!
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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #42 on: January 06, 2008, 01:02:55 PM »
After the abandonment of Tancredo I was without a candidate so I looked much deeper into the rest, including Paul.
I actually can support many of his domestic issues but he is so far off base with islam it is scary. The thought that US foreign policy is what causes muslims to hate us is beyond absurd. Another politician who obviously never read the quran or hadiths. I guess it was our foreign policy back in the early 1800's that caused those upset muslims to enslave American merchants in the Barbary states that the US marines were created for to go rescue. I do agree we should not be involved in any nation building other than our own, and yes, this even includes allies.
I would even welcome getting the hell out of all their cesspool countries, on the condition that they all get the hell out of ours.
He(Paul) did say something that made sense. Whether he was being deceiving or not I don't know. He claimed our support for Israel actually hurts them with their muzzie enemies. Not that they hate them because of American support, we all know they(muzzies) will always hate Israel, and everyone else, whether there is American support or not. The point that he made is that Israel will often hold back from taking aggressive actions because of the wishes and whims of the US leadership. Their deferment to the US does and will hurt  them when necessary retaliation or just self defense is needed. This was kind of proven during the Gulf War when Israel did not respond to incoming missiles at the US request. Again, whether he was sincere in this or not I do not know but it is an extremely valid point.
With all that said, even though I support many of his domestic issues, I can never support a candidate who is totally naive when it comes to islam. The problem with this is I still do not have a candidate. After seeing the debate last night I am even more disappointed, as every one of them that mentioned islam all had the usual disclaimers,(a small minority, hijackers of religion, etc.).
Huckabee? I must be missing something here. I have absolutely no confidence in him.
Let em all in McCain, can't make up my mind Romney, muslim apologist staffers Thompson, domestically liberal Rudy, I don't know why I'm here Richardson, populist in a mansion Edwards, satanic Clinton and Obama the muslim.
This country is in deep trouble.
SerbChicago, I will listen to what Chaim has to say just as anyone else here will but to vote for someone just because he tells you to, or to vote for anyone just because someone, anyone, tells you to, is very frightening. This is a big resaon we are in the mess we are in, too many people do not think for themselves.
As for Paul being a nazi or not, honestly I would not know, it seems many here seem to believe so. If there are reasons to back this claim up then I guess he might be. If the reason is just because he was seen in a photo with some neo-nazi or was sent contributions from such a group is not really a valid argument. The black man in Long Island that shot a white teen who was at his house with a small mob looking to do harm to his son and then shot and killed the white teen in a scuffle was just convicted for murder is having his conviction protested by black groups such as NOI and Al Sharpton. As hard as it is for me to say this, in this instance, NOI and Sharpton are right. I would have done the same thing in a similar situation. Does that make me a NOI member or a sharpton supporter?
OK, before I get attacked here I am in no way defending Ron Paul, his idiotic view on our islamic enemies is enough to turn me off even if he was right on every other single issue, I am just trying to make a few points that I was not sure were being made here.

listen to me i know in my guts that you are rons man.first i have look all candidates and i am greatly invalved in this issues and i have to agree with mr.chaim that ron is a disaster for america,europe,middle east and whole world with his opinions about forigen policys even one domestic!just people,like your self,think that we follow like sheep,but you self youare free thinker ( in my opinion like paul).aren't you the one that is on wrong side of street?aren't you the one who think like liberal(ron paul is ultimatly liberal,it just apear to happend that he have R next to his name,just like mc'caine)?i am member of family reasrch program(i don't kno have you heard from them,but if you didn't google them and you will find out that they support republicans,pro-life,pro-marredge,pro-israel and they are evangelical organizacion)and they have run a poll and in first lace was mitt romney second was huckabee.3.we are(as jtf)movement,just like political party and if our president(mr.chaim)says that JTF supports huckabee,then that is it!we can not have as a movement diferences among our self,becose of that we will faul a part with in!!!!!!!i don't know do you know that Iowa is a evangelical state and thet is a reason why huckabee won,romney second!he is a pastor,don't you think that would save america from liberals,hollywood and gay activist?!most of people belive in G-d(in G-d we trust)and this is our man(for jews and like my self orthodox).4.JTF is only organization who is trying to save my country(save kosovo forum)and if mr.chaim says huckabee(i think he is more wiseer than you in this matter,him self is invalved in this greatly) then i am for him too.5. and most of us are for huckabee and who are you to tell me something!how old are you anyway?!6.i am listener of radio talk show savage nation(michael savage,whohim self is a jew and support my contry)and he is for romney,so in any case all people i support are for huckabee or romney,so if any of them wins i didn't loose!6.if you wont to be JTF-er this is the time to get in this wagone of ours or you will be left on station strangled with others just like Ron paul of yours and others lierals as michae savage says LIBERALIZAM IS A MENTAL DISORDER and my friend my diagnose is you got it!!!!!!   that is all from me!p.s.some of this shoul open mind to Daniel too!


Wow, you have obviously greatly misunderstood everything I have said.
1. I am not a Paul supporter, not by a long shot. I was a Tancredo supporter and know I am not very satisfied with any of the candidates. I thought I made that clear. I almost hurt myself laughing being called a liberal as anyone that knows me will know how amusing that is. Believe me, you gut is lying to you.
2. Yes, I have heard of the Family Research council, I have also listened to and read Michael Savage. I have also heard of and listened to many other organizations and people. I guess I am only supposed to listen to the ones that you deemed qualified?
3. Republican only because they have an R next to their name. I couldn't agree more, not only Paul but just about every Republican today. Go visit loyalistparty.com and see how much of a liberal letter R republican I am according to you.
4. Just so you know, I am also very involved, have been for over 30 years. I am also betting I am older than you, just a hunch.
5. I never told you what to do. In fact, just the opposite, I was stating that people should not automatically do what someone else tells them to without doing their own investigation first, no matter who is telling you to do it.
6. Huckabee will save us from gay activists, hollywood, etc. because he is a pastor? Wasn't Carter considered a very holy man? He did a whole lot of good, didn't he? Just because someone is, or isn't, a pastor/preacher/reverend, rabbi, etc. is not a reason I support or not support someone.
7. Maybe JTF is the only forum trying to save "your" country of Kosovo, and I wish them and Kosovo luck. My country is the USA and has been my families country for many many generations and that is the country I am most concerned with saving.
8. As for getting on the wagon as you call it, the only wagon I am on is the one that is headed for what is best for America. That includes a muslim exclusion act, declassifying islam as a religion, securing our borders, preserving our second amendment rights, true choice in education, death penalty for murderers and pedophiles, penalties for those who hire and or rent to illegal aliens, English as the official language of the land, rebuilding our military and treating them with the respect they deserve, ending affirmative action, lowering taxes, drilling in ANWR and so much more. I guess this makes me a liberal according to you because I do not like the same candidate you do. I am sure I have also been way more involved in the last 30 years than you have so "who are you to tell me something"!
9.I am still pretty amused here at being called a liberal. My diagnosis is that you are actually more of a nazi that you claim Ron Paul to be, who let me make this perfectly clear, I will never support because of his idiotic views on our islamic enemies, because you cannot bear to have anyone not to totally agree with everything you say.
10. Now, if you want to vote for Huckabee because Chaim tells you to, go ahead, that is your right. I will vote for the best candidate of what is available, it might be Huckabee, it might not, it won't be Paul.
11. I am not sure of what movement you are referring to. The only movement I am concerned with is the movement to secure a free,secure, islamic free and constitutional America for my children and their children's future. If the JTF movement is in line with this I support it, if not, I won't.
12. You should try not to assume you know someone when you obviously don't have a clue, just becasue they don't agree with everything you say.
13. Now forget about Daniel, hopefully this will open your mind, but somehow I seriously doubt it.
AND AFTER ALL YOU JUST SAD YOU STILL THINKING YOU NEED MORE PRUVE THAT RON IS NOT A NAZI,AND YOU CALLING ME A NAZI?I GUESS THAT FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING OLDER THEY LOOSE CONTACT WITH REALITY!YOU SAD IT YOUR SELF YOU CAN SUPPORT MANY OF HIS DOMESTIC ISSUES!WELL YOU WILL LOOSE ALL OF YOUR STANDS THAT YOU HAVE JUST LISTED WITH RON!WHY ARE YOU HERE ANYWAY?YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT MR.CHAIM(AS PRESIDENT)SAYS,YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT OTHER JTF MEMBERS SAYS,WHY ARE YOU HERE THAN?!WRONG SIDE OF STREET MY FRIND, YOU ARE ON WRONG SIDE OF STREET!
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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #43 on: January 06, 2008, 01:03:58 PM »
I feel Rudy is the best choice on what we got to defeat the Democrats.   As far as RuPaul goes, he is the scum of the Earth that blamed the death of 3000 Americans on September 11 to the United States cause of our so called policies in the Mid East??  He is giving Muslim barbarians then a free pass and saying we are the ones that killed our own?  And also in the same blaming our alliance with Israel on combating Islamic terror? And you say what is wrong with RuPaul??   Anyone who gives a free pass to the Muslims and wants to pretend that is nothing wrong with Iran and that they can build their nukes and be a vile threat to the west?   And you say in the subject what is wrong with RuPaul?    There is plenty wrong with him.   He is actually worst then McCain believe it or not.  He is sick, his cult is sick, he excepts fundings from StørmFrønt and pretend he didn't know but won't return it either.

Sick Nazi Muzzie loving Scum thats whats wrong with him.
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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #44 on: January 06, 2008, 01:43:14 PM »
Being antiwar does not mean he won't take action against Terrorists.  I guess you would construe Bush's war on Iraq leftism, as it is an unnecessary war that is costing us much money, essentially a giant government program, which is leftist.

What's wrong with the word "neo-con"?  They are actual people who have royally wrecked this country. 


It's wrong because he blames it on Jews. He uses Neo-Con as a code word for Jews.



Can you back that up?  That's as conspiracy theoryesqe as the truther's.  There are actual neocons, some who are Jews, some who are not.  It's funny Ambiortix calls him a leftist, when neoconservatism, according to Michael Lind, in fact has its roots in Leftism.   

Ron Paul, in his article "Neo-Conned" claims that neocons unconditionally support the Likud Party.  That exposes the fact that he uses "neocons" as code words for Jews.  Just as well, it is absurd to connect neoconservativsm with lenninism and bolshevism (which is what many Buchananites and others claim today).  Of course the neocons are anti-Israel, and support the pro-democracy policies of Woodrow Wilson, but to somehow connect that with lenninism and bolshevism is absurd.

It is stupid of him to equate neocons with leninists and to say that the neocons support the Likud. But that still doesn't prove he's using neocons as a code for Jews..I need more proof..I'm almost there guys

I personally don't think there's enough evidence that his use of the word "Neocons" is a code word for Jews. But I do suspect that his use of "Neocons" is more likely a code word for Zionists. Keep in mind, Zionists doesn't necessarily refer to Jews and many non-Jews are stronger Zionists than many Jews. So I think that it might be more accurate to state that Paul is more Anti-zionist than he is anti-Jewish.
I don't know what anti he is however he just has this obsolete fortress America concept that can't work in todays world. Add to that he has socialist notions that border on total redistribution of the wealth. All he kept saying last night is if America didn't fight wars there would be money for social programs.

I partially agree with him on this statement. If America doesn't fight unnecessary wars, there would be more money to take care of America. But that money shouldn't go for social programs that don't work. The money should be used to fight our own internal wars that we have right here in this country like illegal immigration. A fraction of the money that we've spent of Iraq could have easily paid to erect a fence and throw out all the illegals.

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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #45 on: January 06, 2008, 08:50:31 PM »
I feel Rudy is the best choice on what we got to defeat the Democrats.   As far as RuPaul goes, he is the scum of the Earth that blamed the death of 3000 Americans on September 11 to the United States cause of our so called policies in the Mid East??  He is giving Muslim barbarians then a free pass and saying we are the ones that killed our own?  And also in the same blaming our alliance with Israel on combating Islamic terror? And you say what is wrong with RuPaul??   Anyone who gives a free pass to the Muslims and wants to pretend that is nothing wrong with Iran and that they can build their nukes and be a vile threat to the west?   And you say in the subject what is wrong with RuPaul?    There is plenty wrong with him.   He is actually worst then McCain believe it or not.  He is sick, his cult is sick, he excepts fundings from StørmFrønt and pretend he didn't know but won't return it either.

Sick Nazi Muzzie loving Scum thats whats wrong with him.

"He is sick, his cult is sick, he excepts fundings from StørmFrønt and pretend he didn't know but won't return it either."

That's what is definitely Nazi about it him, that and also this secret code word "neo-con" and his Nazi supporters! >:(

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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul? (Nothing is- Whats wrong with CHAIM?)
« Reply #46 on: January 07, 2008, 10:34:23 PM »
There is nothing wrong with Ron Paul. He is absolutely the BEST and ONLY choice for President for any THINKING person to even consider. Chaim is out of his mind, foaming at the mouth crazy- a total lunatic who spent time in Federal Prison because he's a terrorist. In addition, when it comes to Ron Paul, he has about a much discernment as a flea!

Our country is being intentionally deconstructed and forced into a North American Union Dictatorship thats being modelled after the EU Dictatorship, and Ron Paul is the only candidate who opposes this. The EU was originally conceived by the Nazi High Command during the waning hours of WW2 as a long range means for Germany to get the control of Europe that had eluded them militarily via economic and political means. Germany and France politically dominate the EU Parliament. For some historical perspective on the EU Dictatorship which the North American Union Dictatorship is being modelled on (and which is being foisted off on us under the false pretense that we "NEED" it to "protect us from terrorists, watch THE REAL FACE OF THE EU: http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/videos/EuropeanUnion.html

The NAU is being foisted off on us by the same people who created the EU, and the Neocons are directly behind the effort along with the Council on Foreign Relations which published a white paper titled "Building the North American Community."

By opposing Ron Paul, Chaim has shown his true colors. He is a Nazi, a Neocon supporter, a Zionist swine who is in league with those who seek to microchip us all. Watch Alex Jones Film END GAME: video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261

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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul? (Nothing is- Whats wrong with CHAIM?)
« Reply #47 on: January 07, 2008, 10:35:03 PM »
There is nothing wrong with Ron Paul. He is absolutely the BEST and ONLY choice for President for any THINKING person to even consider. Chaim is out of his mind, foaming at the mouth crazy- a total lunatic who spent time in Federal Prison because he's a terrorist. In addition, when it comes to Ron Paul, he has about a much discernment as a flea!

Our country is being intentionally deconstructed and forced into a North American Union Dictatorship thats being modelled after the EU Dictatorship, and Ron Paul is the only candidate who opposes this. The EU was originally conceived by the Nazi High Command during the waning hours of WW2 as a long range means for Germany to get the control of Europe that had eluded them militarily via economic and political means. Germany and France politically dominate the EU Parliament. For some historical perspective on the EU Dictatorship which the North American Union Dictatorship is being modelled on (and which is being foisted off on us under the false pretense that we "NEED" it to "protect us from terrorists, watch THE REAL FACE OF THE EU: http://www.stopthenorthamericanunion.com/videos/EuropeanUnion.html

The NAU is being foisted off on us by the same people who created the EU, and the Neocons are directly behind the effort along with the Council on Foreign Relations which published a white paper titled "Building the North American Community."

By opposing Ron Paul, Chaim has shown his true colors. He is a Nazi, a Neocon supporter, a Zionist swine who is in league with those who seek to microchip us all. Watch Alex Jones Film END GAME: video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1070329053600562261


Wrong! >:(

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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul? (Nothing! Whats Wrong with CHAIM???)
« Reply #48 on: January 07, 2008, 10:43:03 PM »
Do you have any REASONS for saying I'm wrong? Sorry, but its an inconvenient TRUTH that Chaim is a terrorist, and theres just no way around it: http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.jewish/browse_thread/thread/9449587237e129ae

     
   
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 JTF Chairman Chaim Ben Pesach.....was JDL Chairman in The 1980's and lead a
successful bombing campaign .....


 In 2001, the FBI called the Jewish Defense League (JDL), "a violent
extremist Jewish organization."


A message to JTF members from a Jewish racist extremist woman.





http://forum.kahane.org/index.php?topic=1520.0;wap2


Chaim Ben Pesach was born on Tuesday, 21 Tevet, 5717, December 25, 1956. In
1971, at the age of 14, he joined the Jewish Defense League. He eventually
became the JDL National Chairman in September 1978. He had to step down in
December, 1978 after he went to jail for bombing Egyptian targets in an
effort to stop the Israeli retreat from the Sinai Peninsula. After his
release and upon the completion of his probation in July, 1983, he rejoined
JDL. In 1984, he eventually became Chairman again and, in an effort to
influence the USSR to allow Jewish emigration, in the 1980s, he bombed
Soviet diplomatic targets in New York and tear-gassed a ballet performance
at Lincoln Center that featured Soviet performers. He continued as JDL
Chairman until his arrest in 1987. He pleaded guilty in connection with six
bombings and was sentenced to 10 years but served five and a half before
being released on probation. According to Chaim, while he was in jail, he
became very thin because they wouldn't give him any kosher food until
Republican Senator Jesse Helms intervened on his behalf. Upon his release in
1991, he started JTF.


Chaim is banned from entering Israel because of his support of the late
Rabbi Meir Kahane's Kach Party, which has been outlawed in Israel. In 1996,
he tried to emigrate to Israel, but was immediately detained at Ben-Gurion
International Airport upon his arrival, and was placed in administrative
detention in a cell in the airport. He was not allowed to speak to an
attorney nor an American Embassy official, despite the fact that he is an
American citizen. He was subsequently deported to the U.S., where he now
lives in the New York metropolitan area.


Chaim is an Orthodox Jew. He is the son of an Ashkenazic Jewish father,
Pesach Ben Dov, and an Egyptian Sefardic Jewish mother, Malkah Bat Meir.
 

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Re: What's wrong with Ron Paul?
« Reply #49 on: January 07, 2008, 10:47:26 PM »
That's just BS. He's not a TerroriSSt! >:(

First off, he didn't kill anyone! >:(

Anyways, he did what was righteous, if I had the power I would also bomb the traitors to free the Jews! O0

I respect someone for doing that, very powerful O0