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Goodbye JTF
« on: January 06, 2008, 09:38:58 AM »
I know I said my previous would be my last post unless certain issues were resolved in a positive manner, but I have come to the conclusion that however things are resolved, there is no place for me on this website, or in any part of this organisation.

I have been accused of being some cold calculating missionary, trying to covertly convert you all, I've been told I'm "out of control", I've been accused of frequenting nazi websites, I have been told that I'm a disgrace to my ancestors, I was removed from being a moderator and a replacement was chosen without anyone informing me, I have been called arrogant and ignorant, and while I forgive the people concerned for what they have said, I no longer want any part in their organisation.

I will continue to support Israel and oppose Islam in other ways, there are other groups with which I can work, there are some great people here, but the overall ethos of this group is not one with which I wish to associate myself.

Having said that, I see no reason to delete my account, though I do not intend to log into it again, my pms are set up to automatically be forwarded to my email address, so if anyone wishes to remain in contact with me, pm me your email address and I will respond.

I'm sorry that I have to leave, but it has come to a point at which I believe I would have to abandon my principles and my faith in order to remain a part of this organisation, I hope that there will not be a lasting enmity between members of this forum and myself, but on this note I must say goodbye.

Sincerely

FTF

« Last Edit: January 08, 2008, 03:40:42 PM by Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim »
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2008, 09:47:10 AM »
Well done everyone, you have forced this great member away.
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2008, 09:47:54 AM »
I visit WN sites that does'nt make me a WN i like to read what they are saying.As far as being a missionary never saw that from you
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2008, 09:57:02 AM »
FTF, I think you tend to take things a little too personally. In any online forum, there is going to be a certain degree of "flaming" on any and every member. If we were to let this influence us to leave the forum, then the forum would be virtually empty. So I think you should ask yourself or re-examine what is motivating your decision here. If it's some nasty remarks by a few people, then big whoop. Don't let that drive you away. Either way, it's your decision to make and you know what's best for you.
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2008, 10:08:50 AM »
This forum has many hard line members..but take no heed...

and a lot of these hard line members are loony themselves so quit being such a p-ssy !

Let me just add, you apologizing was the right thing and I commend you for it.
« Last Edit: January 06, 2008, 10:14:59 AM by Dr. Dan »
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2008, 10:10:41 AM »
All I can say is,  being overly sensitive to criticism can be a problem on this forum...
You can not be considered an extremist group/organization and be mild mannered and polite ALL the time, you have to bite the bullet sometimes and get over it. You will have to develop a hard shell and have all those insults and remark just bounce off you, for OUR objective IS not to insult you or ridicule your way of thinking.
In closing, I think your an alright guy and I'd like for you to stay on the Forum.  O0
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2008, 10:24:25 AM »
ftf I think you should take a few day and think about things. I don't think you need to leave the forum. I fact I think you would be making a mistake.  You speak your mind and along with that will come responses and comments that you may not like to see. I was a little put off by your comment the other day challenging Chaim but I really believe you had no ill intent in it besides proving your position. You have been here from the start of the forum and have always wrote some very good stuff. I was always impressed about how much you know about Islam and many other religions. Your grasp on world politics is very good for someone your age. In my opinion if you leave the forum it will be a loss and I think some other folks here feel the same way. I always say if you don't like the heat stay out of the kitchen so when you post on issues that you know will raise the hackles of others you had better be ready to take some heat. After reading your posts for almost 2 years I know you write whats on your mind so why quit now. Stick around and debate your point of view. If your wrong you will learn something and if your not you will have proved your point. 
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2008, 10:50:12 AM »
Nic Brookes:  "...Well done everyone; you have forced ftf away..."

I beg your pardon, Nic Brookes!

I have never forced anyone away from this forum.

There are some on the forum, unfortunately, who can not make the same statement regarding their forcing me from this forum.
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2008, 11:04:42 AM »
Dear ftf, the JTF Serbian section of this great forum
would probably have MUCH MORE rest if I didn't register,
yet, I did...and stayed, whatever the cost
on my Human nerves, because of
the meekness of other Serbs there...

 ;)

I ask you to stay.

 O0

« Last Edit: January 06, 2008, 11:06:46 AM by Husar »
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"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2008, 11:26:09 AM »
I agree FTF - I think you should stay. 
After being dewinged and dishonored - you stuck it out - I admired that.
We are not here to agree all the time - We are here for a cause.
I think CJD is right.  Take some time to think about it.
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2008, 12:40:57 PM »
I think you should stay, but maybe a few days to relax and think about it. 
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2008, 12:48:38 PM »
Quote from: MasterWolf1 on January 06, 2008, 12:40:57 PM
I think you should stay, but maybe a few days to relax and think about it. 

Yes, eat some roasted muSSlim thigh,
enjoy some relaxing massage,
and come back, fresher than ever !!!

 O0 O0 O0
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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2008, 12:51:03 PM »
I would like you to stay as well, FTF.  Think of all the members who appreciate you, along with the ones who don't, when you make your decision to leave.  It might be too late for that now, so I wish you the best of luck whichever way you choose. 

Farewell. 
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2008, 12:53:49 PM »
Ftf, you just gt to not say things that will aggravate others, I get mad when someone tries to aggravate me or say something that I may find insulting.  It is a 2 way street when it comes to respecting others.   I think you are best to take a few days off rest and think about it carefully.  I think you are a great member to the forum.
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2008, 01:06:29 PM »
I'll admit there is a bit more name calling in this forum than others, but its not reason to leave.  Ive seen people accuse some of the most ardent supporters of the JTF as being Nazis.  You cant please everyone.

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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2008, 01:22:25 PM »
I think that ftf would probably want to see what Yacov and newman have to say about this.
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2008, 01:25:44 PM »
Quote from: Nic Brookes on January 06, 2008, 01:22:25 PM
I think that ftf would probably want to see what Yacov and newman have to say about this.

I think he knows what they have to say about it.  hehe  ;)
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2008, 01:25:55 PM »
Quote from: Nic Brookes on January 06, 2008, 01:22:25 PM
I think that ftf would probably want to see what Yacov and newman have to say about this.

Yes, Yacov needs to ban FTF from leaving ;)
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2008, 01:30:52 PM »
I think that you have made some great contributions to the forum with regard to the excellent anti-Islam essays you wrote and the entertaining ideas and threads you made in the fight against Islam section.  Therefore I appreciate it if you would stay on the forum.  However, if you are unable to take the heat then this isn't the place for you.  Don't expect to post inflammatory or offensive material on the forum and not expect those offended to say some nasty things back at you. 
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2008, 01:34:00 PM »
ftf, you're a great guy, and all of us here stand to lose if you decide to leave for good.  Your contributions to this forum, particularly on the topic of Islam, are invaluable, and it is going to be very hard to find someone who has the kind of dedication that you have on that field.
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2008, 02:44:32 PM »
FTF knows how I feel.
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2008, 03:19:47 PM »
FTF DON'T YOU DARE.

Ftf doesn't missionise, I've discussed Christianity with him and he debates but never tries to covert anybody, he is very respective of the rules and a very polite and pleasent person. A great asset to JTF....he is exceptionally intelligent as well.
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2008, 03:24:56 PM »
Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 06, 2008, 03:20:42 PM
Quote from: Sarah on January 06, 2008, 03:19:47 PM
FTF DON'T YOU DARE.

Ftf doesn't missionise, I've discussed Christianity with him and he debates but never tries to covert anybody, he is very respective of the rules and a very polite and pleasent person. A great asset to JTF....he is exceptionally intelligent as well.


So you agree with what he says about Islam?



No I don't. That doesn't change what I think of his character though.
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2008, 03:26:48 PM »
Yacov, why are you not saying anything to ftf? Do you regret losing someone with such knowledge on Islam?
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Re: Goodbye JTF
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2008, 03:33:30 PM »
I'll be the only honest person here and say that I'm glad to see you go, ftf.
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