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Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
Tina Greco - Melbourne:
--- Quote from: Dexter on February 11, 2008, 08:11:15 AM ---What's funny ?
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He said what I was thinking 8;)
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--- Quote from: dhimmi_pride ---Neither are you BNP supporters true right wingers. You are class warriors, nothing more than a racist and anti-semetic verison of Labour, that just don't want to share your dole and nanny state with non-whites.
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That was an ingenious observation from dhimmi_pride. (and amusing too)
And regarding what dibblah said about BNP being pro israel. If even you mean pro israel like the Blair labour party - and I doubt it. No party in britain is pro israel. Some parties may be pro israeli government, but that is something else, and actually, that is bad! To be pro israel means saying israel should not give up any land, speaking out against the disengagement where the israeli government trampled over religious jewish settlers with horses and beat them with batons. No british political party does that. Anyhow, I do not expect them to, their goals should be for britain.
And their goal for britain is just what dhimmi_pride said!
Except they break up Britain into English, and non english. Not white and non white.
Jews are not considered English (even today british asians , blacks, jews, e.t.c. are not considered English by anybody). I do not know the details of the differences in how the English and non english would be treated, but that is the idea.
Masha:
I disagree with those who say that the BNP can never change. First of all, people do change their views. Sometimes in monumental ways. Sometimes several times during their lifetimes. If Nick Griffin says that his views of Jews has changed - who am I? A mind reader?
Secondly, a party is made up by its members. If the BNP is now attracting more mainstream members, then its views are correspondingly more mainstream. If the BNP allows Jewish membership then the views of its Jewish members affect the overall views represented by the party. I have spent a lot of time reading every single article on the BNP's website in order to study this issue and form my own opinion. My opinion is now formed. I'm giving thumbs up to the BNP. I have no doubt that there are a lot of individual members who are strongly antisemitic, but I believe that the party, as a whole, has changed its agenda, and its target is now the defeat of islam. I support its nationalistic, anti-EU, anti-globalist agenda. This is the realistic political force in Britain today capable of being a platform of reststance; everything else is just talk. We cannot be purists at this historical juncture.
I know that Chaim has expressed himself against the BNP. I believe he will come around and change his mind eventually.
dibblah:
Guys... Please. please, you are all wrong...that is what they want you to believe. You might find these posts vaguely interesting if you live in the US but to us over here in the UK, it has become a matter of survival.
They -(The EU, the UK government and Media as well as various pressure groups) are aleady talking of introducing Sharia Law to the UK and Europe....we are very close to being seriously compromised!!!- If we fall you are next for a Muslim takeover.
-it is easy to be cynical!- Try and disproove me!!
Dhimmi... My dear friend...the BNP support the Independant Irish state and want a joint, democractically elected future for NI. I have always been an Irish nationalist, I was baptized in Ireland (Kildare) and all my family live there. I would never risk their futures and our grandchildren's futures on political claptrap....before anything else. However we slice and dice it,our future will be forever intertwined with the UK because of proximity and connections alone.
That is why I am calling on you to take a fresh view. If we had the chance to discuss this face to face I'm sure we'ed find common ground. The BNP are not racists, fachists or anti anything Judaic/Christian... Do some more research and really read.... The BNP may ultimately be the party that can unite all of Ireland.
In the words of Christy Moore: et. al.
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Masha-
They are not attracting more mainstream members. Though Nick Griffin may be trying.
(not necessarily because he "changed his views", but simply because he wants to be elected).
You are right that they see muslims as the number one threat.
Having a jewish representative means nothing(there is this jewish woman representative they have. i saw a picture of her). It means nothing. I heard that evil anti-semitic playright David Haires on TV begin declaring that he had a jewish wife, before going on a diatribe against jews in israel, jewish belief, settlers, e.t.c. . The "some of my best friends are jewish" line is well known. Ahmedinejad knows that line too.
And so did do muslims.. it gives them a seal of approval that their views are socially acceptable. People feel they cannot call them anti some group if people of that group love them. And they cannot argue with a person of that minority group , arguing that they discriminate against that minority group member. They have their token jew.. And she may be a self hating jew too. Or an opportunist. Or a crackpot. What jewish causes has she stood up for? She is just nominally jewish (JINO - jewish in name only). And maybe not "even" jewish in name!
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