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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #100 on: February 13, 2008, 05:03:19 PM »
Ambroix has the point you cannot continue with this level of 3rd world imigration, dumbing down of culture, multicultism, socialism if only becouse we can't longer efort it; we have to compete on markets with America and SE Asia, and our families and societies, and economies are crumbling; we need to impose more responibility, private initiative and higher moral standarts or we'll be absorbed by iSSlamic Borg or conquered by China in one or two generations. That's are utillitarian concerns apart from religius ones, I don't want to live in Sodom and Gomorah. I'm quite allergic to fire and brimstone or their modern counterparts the global warming or new ice age.       
Jeremiah 8:11-17

11 They dress the wound of my people as though it were not serious. Peace, peace, they say, when there is no peace.

12 Are they ashamed of their loathsome conduct? No, they have no shame at all; they do not even know how to blush. So they will fall among the fallen; they will be brought down when they are punished, says the LORD.

13 'I will take away their harvest, declares the LORD. There will be no grapes on the vine. There will be no figs on the tree, and their leaves will wither. What I have given them will be taken from them.'

14 Why are we sitting here? Gather together! Let us flee to the fortified cities and perish there! For the LORD our God has doomed us to perish and given us poisoned water to drink, because we have sinned against him.

15 We hoped for peace but no good has come, for a time of healing but there was only terror.

16 The snorting of the enemy's horses is heard from Dan; at the neighing of their stallions the whole land trembles. They have come to devour the land and everything in it, the city and all who live there.

17 See, I will send venomous snakes among you, vipers that cannot be charmed, and they will bite you, declares the LORD.

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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #101 on: February 13, 2008, 05:06:19 PM »
That's is the idea I promote:
Nationalism, to defend ourselves.
A strong Europe, of sovereign nations, not a EUSSR-multi-cul-zoo, will be beneficial for the survival of Israel and USA.
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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« Reply #102 on: February 13, 2008, 10:23:00 PM »
You know.. dibbles is probably a good guy.

But generally speaking, not just the BNP party, but the professionals, the BNP leaders, you cannot trust a word they say.

Nick Griffin used to be very public with his anti-semitic views..  holohoax, jews controlling the media. Then all of a sudden, he claims to have changed his views. He spoke of casting off the iron leg of anti-semitism  (iron leg because he thinks it holds them back)..

Isn`t it strange for somebody`s views to suddenly change..

Now
See this from wikipedia
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The 2002 Channel 4 documentary Young, Nazi and Proud featured hidden-camera footage of the then BNP youth leader Mark Collett stating his admiration for Adolf Hitler, and stating "I'd never say this on camera, the Jews have been thrown out of every country including England. It's not just persecution. There's no smoke without fire." It also featured footage of visitors to the party's annual "Red White and Blue" festival, some of whom wore the legend "88" (code for HH, "Heil Hitler").[35] Collett resigned from the party after the documentary's filming, but rejoined shortly afterwards, with Nick Griffin's approval, on the condition that Collett changed his views on the subject.
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note- these documentaries are on youtube.. there is another called "Secret Agent" where a journalist goes undercover

So it seems BNP leaders have a magic way to suddenly change their views overnight.
Nick Griffin - the leader. And Mark Collett, youth leader  (once called BNP youth - reminiscent of Hitler Youth).

Now see the video seems like not such a bad guy

one of his friends is from germany, another is a skinhead, could be coincidence of course!

But you see the real mark collett as mentioned in that paragraph from the wikipedia article.

And what about John Tyndall - also expelled , and not allowed back apparently, given that he is not hiding certain views..
In this article he himself says certain things or words are not done/said, for tactical reasons..
He is pragmatic..
Here in an article on why they do not need jewish candidates..
And he says he has a big folder from correspondance with nick griffin.. with nick griffin`s views. very anti-semitic stuff..

Do you reall think he changed them suddenly?
yeah right..
like Mark Collett - BNP youth leader.  (now called Young BNP.. But apparently was called BNP Youth - ring any bells - Hitler Youth - coincidence?  I get the idea. No, it is not coincidence).

They hide their beliefs in order to get power. If they had power it would be the nazi party in power.

It is like muslims who are all "peaceful" and likeable - relatively speaking - when they are the underdog..
But when they think they can win.. Or when they do win power.. Then it`s a different story. then you get the real muslim. The muslim in the mosque.



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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #103 on: February 14, 2008, 12:22:47 AM »
BNP will remain a neo-Nazi dominated party, if they don't get more than 0,7% of the votes.
Vlaams Belang now has since some years about 20 % of the votes,
and those skinheads/nazis/scum are thrown out.
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #104 on: February 14, 2008, 07:22:31 AM »
Israeli and Jewish is the same. It's impossible to be Israeli and not being Jewish unless you are just an Israeli citizen. All Israelis are Jews, other are ___-Israelis [E.G.: Arab-Israelis].
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #105 on: February 14, 2008, 09:38:53 AM »
BNP will remain a neo-Nazi dominated party, if they don't get more than 0,7% of the votes.
Vlaams Belang now has since some years about 20 % of the votes,
and those skinheads/nazis/scum are thrown out.

I am talking about their leadership though.. not even their current pool of voters.

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« Reply #106 on: February 14, 2008, 09:44:07 AM »
Israeli and Jewish is the same. It's impossible to be Israeli and not being Jewish unless you are just an Israeli citizen. All Israelis are Jews, other are ___-Israelis [E.G.: Arab-Israelis].

I do not just mean accidentally jewish..  I do not mean a factual thing, like bring a british citizen

And by the way.. if secular israelis were in the diaspora, they would intermarry, and their children or grandchildren would not be jewish.   Because they had no reason to be jewish, their children and grandchildren have no reason, and are not.  Just so happens that in israel, their neighbours are mostly jewish.

You might want to read the book "Why be jewish" by the rav, and you will understand what I mean.

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« Reply #107 on: February 14, 2008, 09:55:25 AM »
There is also a big difference between patriotism in britain, and patriotism in america.

In america, patriotism is mainstream and pervasive.

In britain, patriotism is not mainstream at all. People are very ambivalent about it to the extent that nobody talks of "being english" except the kind of people that do not consider jews to be english. We say British(the scottish and irish and welsh, say scottish, irish, welsh).

Britain is not a religious country.. We do not have this blend of religion with patriotism.. 

In Britain, patriotism, has been hijacked, not by religious evangelical christians - that would be great.  But by racists. People who behind closed doors dream of an "england" with no minorities, and dream of killing them. People that behind closed doors, empathise with Hitler. 

 




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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #108 on: February 14, 2008, 10:37:11 AM »
Israeli and Jewish is the same. It's impossible to be Israeli and not being Jewish unless you are just an Israeli citizen. All Israelis are Jews, other are ___-Israelis [E.G.: Arab-Israelis].

I do not just mean accidentally jewish..  I do not mean a factual thing, like bring a british citizen

And by the way.. if secular israelis were in the diaspora, they would intermarry, and their children or grandchildren would not be jewish.   Because they had no reason to be jewish, their children and grandchildren have no reason, and are not.  Just so happens that in israel, their neighbours are mostly jewish.

You might want to read the book "Why be jewish" by the rav, and you will understand what I mean.

There almost no real seculer Jews in Israel, most are tradional and most of tham don't really like non-Jews.
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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #109 on: February 14, 2008, 06:00:46 PM »
I don`t really know what   "most israelis do not really like non jews" means..

Except in the context of it coming from a 14 year old israeli who does not know any non jews except arab muslims, and countries that are anti israel.

It is stupid..   Jews in the diaspora work with non jews, and even socialise with them sometimes. And those that do not socialise with non jews, they avoid it not because they do not like non jews, but because they believe that the torah demands that we be a separate people, with a mission.

Non orthodox jews come up with all sorts of stupid reasons to justify "being jewish". Besides the accident at birth.
she says
"I would have to change my name, have plastic surgery,  to do that would be sick
"it would be throwing away my heritage"

a response  "so her idea of a jew is somebody with a big nose called rabinowitz.  "

she says.
"I am proud of being jewish, because jews never tried to force other people to follow their religion"
a response "That`s it? That is pathetic. "   

another response "Buddists didn`t either. Why not be a buddist? oh, i guess `cos she`s got a big nose and her name`s rabinowitz. Still, there are many buddist jews. Why not be atheist? Oh yeah, she is "

she is also proud of being from some american state because they were the first state to do abolition of slavery..
I cannot remember the response the guy gave to that one! Something about christianity being a part of that I think!!


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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #110 on: February 14, 2008, 09:20:13 PM »
Look this is getting fairly frustrating... How many times do I have to write it to get the message accross?....

The BNP supports the preservation of all north Atlantic peoples in their country which has been thier birthright for several millenia. The BNP seeks to defend the Christian/Judaic tradition of its peoples against all outsiders and userpers.

This is the 1st line of our party manefesto. If this is not clear enough and you would still like to know more, goto the website: http://www.bnp.org.uk

At some point you have to accept that your closest allies are really on your side as well. We would dearly love to see the crushing of all terrorist activity against the Jewish homeland and the implementation of many of the policies that Chiam advocates. In this de-sensitised world the things that we both advocate are considered violent and reactionary by most of the liberal western population. It's because "people do not riot against the state with bread in their stomachs' -Trotsky- and more laterly, from Platoon: "you gotta be rich in the first palce to think like that". These statements are massively prophetic.

It is not food and land we are fighting for, but a way of life..it is like a new cold war but against a caliphate this time. -Accept support at face value and dont denigrate it... we have few enough allies as it is! The UK would protect Isrealis as their own,...you know this, please lets not drag up the past..... We could be here all night ...LOL

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« Reply #111 on: February 14, 2008, 09:48:21 PM »
It`s not really just the past though..

Nick Griffim the current leader had anti-semitic views that he changed suddenly (now nobody hears them)

The BNP Youth leader - David Collett -  in a secretly filmed thing  - identified with/ praised Hitler. And has a history with the "National Front"...  Heck, Nick Griffin admitted to having attended the meetings in the past. As had the previous head.

Do you see a pattern here?  Even the BNP Youth leader changed his mind overnight.. allegedly. But he got caught speaking his mind in a secretly filmed thing. Praising Hitler..

And the late founder of the BNP John Tyndall.. (you see him wearing a badge round his arm like a nazi) Of course, you could say that is the past(though he got big claps in 2004). But the present you have nick griffin, and of course David Collett..

The fact is.. You don`t lead a party founded by a nazi, with a short history , full of leaders involved with nazism and anti-semitism, from the founder onwards. From the youth leaders to the mature leaders.  You don`t lead a party like that and claim not to be a nazi type, and expect to be taken seriously as not being a nazi type.

I mentioned earlier that Nick Griffin said anti-semitism is an iron leg cast they have or are trying to shake off..  (obviously implying that it holds them back). And I said, well if they gain power.. they will be anti-semitic.  Then in a secretly taped thing, I hear a BNP guy saying we can`t kill all the "pakis" until we take power.   Now, you think they won`t say that about jews??!!

I am sure you are not a knave, but don`t be a fool.
If you want to be ideological.. UKIP are probably closest to BNP minus racism.

But BNP are racist anti-semitic thugs. Nick Griffin did boxing at cambridge.. and he sees David collett as what he was like when he was young!!!  We are not talking about great tough people like rabbi kahane or the JDL. These are nazi thugs! In suits.  The press are not exaggerating!

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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #112 on: February 14, 2008, 10:15:58 PM »
q_q,

My dear friend you are so wrong...I said in a previous post that if for one second I believed that the BNP were anti-semetic I would run a mile and moreover I would fight against them at every possible chance.-This position has not changed and will always be the case.

I have a BSc hons degree from a "red-brick" British University and a masters degree in business admin. Additionally, I have worked in the private sector for the last 12 years and have some insight into how things work. Furthermore I've done massive amounts of historical and recent research on this matter and I have talked to several wise men on this subject.  You can carry on bleating about BNP and anti-semitism, but the [censored] simply does not stick my friend.

My apologies for puting it so crudely but I feel that the message is not getting accross.

How about this with no strings attached:

1. We love the Juadic people as our brothers.
2. We will do whatever it takes to preserve the Jewish homeland of Israel.
3. We will fight and resist at every level the cause of the Islamic nations to takeover and dominate our faiths.
4. We will expel all muslims from our country.

At what point do we differ in our goals? -I would love to know...

If you cannot find fault with these gaols then cease and desist.

We have much bigger battles to fight.

God bless.

Dibbs Nutz


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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #113 on: February 14, 2008, 10:19:13 PM »
I don`t really know what   "most israelis do not really like non jews" means..

Except in the context of it coming from a 14 year old israeli who does not know any non jews except arab muslims, and countries that are anti israel.

It is stupid..   Jews in the diaspora work with non jews, and even socialise with them sometimes. And those that do not socialise with non jews, they avoid it not because they do not like non jews, but because they believe that the torah demands that we be a separate people, with a mission.

Non orthodox jews come up with all sorts of stupid reasons to justify "being jewish". Besides the accident at birth.
she says
"I would have to change my name, have plastic surgery,  to do that would be sick
"it would be throwing away my heritage"

a response  "so her idea of a jew is somebody with a big nose called rabinowitz.  "

she says.
"I am proud of being jewish, because jews never tried to force other people to follow their religion"
a response "That`s it? That is pathetic. "   

another response "Buddists didn`t either. Why not be a buddist? oh, i guess `cos she`s got a big nose and her name`s rabinowitz. Still, there are many buddist jews. Why not be atheist? Oh yeah, she is "

she is also proud of being from some american state because they were the first state to do abolition of slavery..
I cannot remember the response the guy gave to that one! Something about christianity being a part of that I think!!


Quit decrying the will of non-religiouse Jews to stay Jewish, especielly quit decrying me and who I know and how. I am correct I tell you, Jews here don't like non-Jews (especially Christians, because of what they did us in the past etc'), and they will always want to marrie with Jews.

If she is proud to be Jewish because of that reason, great for her. I don't understand what's the problem on that.
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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #114 on: February 14, 2008, 10:58:26 PM »
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.

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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #115 on: February 14, 2008, 11:02:48 PM »
I don't.
Not a foreign land we took and not with foreign possession but a land that belong to our ancestors that was occupied without a trial. And when we had the opportunity, we took our land back.
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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #116 on: February 14, 2008, 11:14:00 PM »
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Quit decrying the will of non-religiouse Jews to stay Jewish, especielly quit decrying me and who I know and how. I am correct I tell you, Jews here don't like non-Jews (especially Christians, because of what they did us in the past etc'), and they will always want to marrie with Jews.
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I said that secular israelis if they were in the diaspora would intermarry.. and their children or grandchildren would not be jewish..  They have no reason to being jewish besides the an accident at birth.

You decided to take that as a question of "why be jewish" to non religious israelis like yourself.  And even from a 14 year old child, you gave the most stupid reason I have ever heard in my life.

And excuse me for being so harsh to a 14 year old (you)
btw, somebody said you were 10.  I was under the impression that you were a prodigious 10 year old..
You are great here - 95% of the time. But if you don`t like christians, then why do you like JTF?!!! JTF is an organisation of righteous jews and gentiles - mostly gentiles, and many of them christian. Fighting to save america and israel from islammic terrorism, black rap culture (majourity of blacks!), or other unrighteous threats e.t.c.


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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #117 on: February 14, 2008, 11:26:38 PM »
q_q,

My dear friend you are so wrong...I said in a previous post that if for one second I believed that the BNP were anti-semetic I would run a mile and moreover I would fight against them at every possible chance.-This position has not changed and will always be the case.

I have a BSc hons degree from a "red-brick" British University and a masters degree in business admin. Additionally, I have worked in the private sector for the last 12 years and have some insight into how things work. Furthermore I've done massive amounts of historical and recent research on this matter and I have talked to several wise men on this subject.  You can carry on bleating about BNP and anti-semitism, but the excrement simply does not stick my friend.

My apologies for puting it so crudely but I feel that the message is not getting accross.

How about this with no strings attached:

1. We love the Juadic people as our brothers.
2. We will do whatever it takes to preserve the Jewish homeland of Israel.
3. We will fight and resist at every level the cause of the Islamic nations to takeover and dominate our faiths.
4. We will expel all muslims from our country.

At what point do we differ in our goals? -I would love to know...

If you cannot find fault with these gaols then cease and desist.

We have much bigger battles to fight.

G-d bless.

Dibbs Nutz



I don`t think it is important for BNP to love jews.

"Fight to preserve the jewish homeland", fine, it may be in BNP`s interests.. Countrys` should do what is in their best interests.

Unfortunately, the facts e.g. facts I gave, facts dhimmi_pride gave, are consistent with BNP hating jews.. Somebody like Collett, who praises Hitler, should not have felt comfortable in the BNP.. let alone be BNP Youth Leader, and Nick Griffin`s right hand man.. A man in whom Nick Griffin sees his young self.  This is the present BNP.

I have no idea why you don`t see that they hate jews. But other people do.

They want power. Left wing jewish organisations have made being an anti-semite political suicide. So rather than let it out and fight a war with jews.. They feel they have more chance hiding it from the public, and fighting the muslims.

And unfortunately, most jews are leftists, who do not want to separate from the white english race. And that would not help, in a britain led by the BNP!


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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #118 on: February 15, 2008, 06:13:42 AM »
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Quit decrying the will of non-religiouse Jews to stay Jewish, especielly quit decrying me and who I know and how. I am correct I tell you, Jews here don't like non-Jews (especially Christians, because of what they did us in the past etc'), and they will always want to marrie with Jews.
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I said that secular israelis if they were in the diaspora would intermarry.. and their children or grandchildren would not be jewish..  They have no reason to being jewish besides the an accident at birth.

You decided to take that as a question of "why be jewish" to non religious israelis like yourself.  And even from a 14 year old child, you gave the most stupid reason I have ever heard in my life.


And excuse me for being so harsh to a 14 year old (you)
btw, somebody said you were 10.  I was under the impression that you were a prodigious 10 year old..
You are great here - 95% of the time. But if you don`t like christians, then why do you like JTF?!!! JTF is an organisation of righteous jews and gentiles - mostly gentiles, and many of them christian. Fighting to save america and israel from islammic terrorism, black rap culture (majourity of blacks!), or other unrighteous threats e.t.c.
What are talking about ? Do you even know the Israelis that you are making bias assumptions like that ? The people who made Israel were proud [seculer] Jews, people here are proud to be Jews and that have nothing to do with religion. If I remember correctly, 74% of the Jews in Israel who studie in school are proud to be Jewish, and others just don't care they are.

My reason is not stupid, who are you to say what's stupid and what's isn't ? I will be proud of who I am for every reason I would like and not religiouse, leftists, or any other people will tell if I should be proud of somthing or for what reason I should be.

I never said I don't like Christians, you are unable to read or you read things selectivly ? I said most Israelis just DON'Tl like Christians!
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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #119 on: February 15, 2008, 10:28:39 AM »
BNP will remain a neo-Nazi dominated party, if they don't get more than 0,7% of the votes.
Vlaams Belang now has since some years about 20 % of the votes,
and those skinheads/nazis/scum are thrown out.

what is 0,7% ?


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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #120 on: February 17, 2008, 02:54:43 PM »
Every day more and more people join the BNP. Every day more and more Christians join the BNP. Jews join the BNP! :) Hindus join the BNP. There are more righteous Gentiles as members of JTF than Jews!  So what does this mean?

More people realise that nazi muSSie slimbags want to kill us all and only by joining together can we beat these worthless evil wicked apologies for humans!

The BNP is being overrun by PRO Israel people from all walks of life. When the BNP get into power no one man, even if it's Nick Griffin, will be able to go against mainstream grasroots supporters/members.

But you have a choice, you can decry the BNP and chance your arm with "Labour - Conservative - Liberal" ALL of whom fully support hamas and every other nazi anti-Semitic organisation. >:(

Your worse case scenario with the BNP is that they don't care about Israel and won't lift a finger to help her. Wait a minute isn't that just what your getting now from the current eu/brit government?
Shalom to you all from the UK.

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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #121 on: February 17, 2008, 04:12:27 PM »
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Quit decrying the will of non-religiouse Jews to stay Jewish, especielly quit decrying me and who I know and how. I am correct I tell you, Jews here don't like non-Jews (especially Christians, because of what they did us in the past etc'), and they will always want to marrie with Jews.
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I said that secular israelis if they were in the diaspora would intermarry.. and their children or grandchildren would not be jewish..  They have no reason to being jewish besides the an accident at birth.

You decided to take that as a question of "why be jewish" to non religious israelis like yourself.  And even from a 14 year old child, you gave the most stupid reason I have ever heard in my life.


And excuse me for being so harsh to a 14 year old (you)
btw, somebody said you were 10.  I was under the impression that you were a prodigious 10 year old..
You are great here - 95% of the time. But if you don`t like christians, then why do you like JTF?!!! JTF is an organisation of righteous jews and gentiles - mostly gentiles, and many of them christian. Fighting to save america and israel from islammic terrorism, black rap culture (majourity of blacks!), or other unrighteous threats e.t.c.
What are talking about ? Do you even know the Israelis that you are making bias assumptions like that ? The people who made Israel were proud [seculer] Jews, people here are proud to be Jews and that have nothing to do with religion. If I remember correctly, 74% of the Jews in Israel who studie in school are proud to be Jewish, and others just don't care they are.

My reason is not stupid, who are you to say what's stupid and what's isn't ? I will be proud of who I am for every reason I would like and not religiouse, leftists, or any other people will tell if I should be proud of somthing or for what reason I should be.

I never said I don't like Christians, you are unable to read or you read things selectivly ? I said most Israelis just DON'Tl like Christians!

OK, you don`t not like them. Good. You may even like them.

But you said that most israelis do not like christians, and the context was "Why Be Jewish". As in, I said that if secular Israelis lived in the diaspora, they would intermarry.   What reason do secular jews have to be jewish, besides the fact that they were born jewish - so I do not just mean the factual thing, like a passport saying one is british or israeli e.t.c..  You replied that most israelis do not like christians..
That really is a STUPID REASON!

And so now you say you do not include yourself in that group. Well, very good.. It just means that when asked for a reason to be jewish, besides the factual thing. The reason you gave is not one you hold.  Now, given that the reason was so ridiculous childish and pathetic. I think that`s a good thing that you do not hold it!!!!

BTW.. If you were right that most israelis do not like them.. It would probably be becaus of the intense missionary activity there, which has been allowed by the israeli government.

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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #122 on: February 17, 2008, 04:17:57 PM »
Every day more and more people join the BNP. Every day more and more Christians join the BNP. Jews join the BNP! :) Hindus join the BNP. There are more righteous Gentiles as members of JTF than Jews!  So what does this mean?

More people realise that nazi muSSie slimbags want to kill us all and only by joining together can we beat these worthless evil wicked apologies for humans!

The BNP is being overrun by PRO Israel people from all walks of life. When the BNP get into power no one man, even if it's Nick Griffin, will be able to go against mainstream grasroots supporters/members.

But you have a choice, you can decry the BNP and chance your arm with "Labour - Conservative - Liberal" ALL of whom fully support hamas and every other nazi anti-Semitic organisation. >:(

Your worse case scenario with the BNP is that they don't care about Israel and won't lift a finger to help her. Wait a minute isn't that just what your getting now from the current eu/brit government?

I am skeptical, but if that were to happen , then that would be great news.  Including your "worst case scenario".

What we have at the moment is a labour government that -does- lift a finger. Supporting the israeli government, not supporting israel. And supporting the israeli government is leading to israel`s destruction.

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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #123 on: February 21, 2008, 12:14:52 AM »
Hey Tavor IMI...point well made my friend.

It is I think important to let the Jewish people know that the BNP is not some evil anti-semetic organisation and that we do indeed count them amongst us as our brothers in this fight..

And my God let us not forget that it is a desperate fight, where we all have to unite against this Jihadist takeover. The UK is the first in line for two reasons: 1. The huge and daily expanding mussie population and 2. The huge encouragement that our governement gives them to come here and to support their domination of all things when they are here.

-It is great to know I am not alone with this mission to reach out to our Jewish freinds and help dismiss the myths. -Thanks

Are you going to RWB this year?- Let me know we can hook up and have a beer. :)

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Re: Warm greetings to the JTF from a UK supporter
« Reply #124 on: February 21, 2008, 03:46:39 AM »
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Quit decrying the will of non-religiouse Jews to stay Jewish, especielly quit decrying me and who I know and how. I am correct I tell you, Jews here don't like non-Jews (especially Christians, because of what they did us in the past etc'), and they will always want to marrie with Jews.
<snip>

I said that secular israelis if they were in the diaspora would intermarry.. and their children or grandchildren would not be jewish..  They have no reason to being jewish besides the an accident at birth.

You decided to take that as a question of "why be jewish" to non religious israelis like yourself.  And even from a 14 year old child, you gave the most stupid reason I have ever heard in my life.


And excuse me for being so harsh to a 14 year old (you)
btw, somebody said you were 10.  I was under the impression that you were a prodigious 10 year old..
You are great here - 95% of the time. But if you don`t like christians, then why do you like JTF?!!! JTF is an organisation of righteous jews and gentiles - mostly gentiles, and many of them christian. Fighting to save america and israel from islammic terrorism, black rap culture (majourity of blacks!), or other unrighteous threats e.t.c.
What are talking about ? Do you even know the Israelis that you are making bias assumptions like that ? The people who made Israel were proud [seculer] Jews, people here are proud to be Jews and that have nothing to do with religion. If I remember correctly, 74% of the Jews in Israel who studie in school are proud to be Jewish, and others just don't care they are.

My reason is not stupid, who are you to say what's stupid and what's isn't ? I will be proud of who I am for every reason I would like and not religiouse, leftists, or any other people will tell if I should be proud of somthing or for what reason I should be.

I never said I don't like Christians, you are unable to read or you read things selectivly ? I said most Israelis just DON'Tl like Christians!

OK, you don`t not like them. Good. You may even like them.

But you said that most israelis do not like christians, and the context was "Why Be Jewish". As in, I said that if secular Israelis lived in the diaspora, they would intermarry.   What reason do secular jews have to be jewish, besides the fact that they were born jewish - so I do not just mean the factual thing, like a passport saying one is british or israeli e.t.c..  You replied that most israelis do not like christians..
That really is a STUPID REASON!

And so now you say you do not include yourself in that group. Well, very good.. It just means that when asked for a reason to be jewish, besides the factual thing. The reason you gave is not one you hold.  Now, given that the reason was so ridiculous childish and pathetic. I think that`s a good thing that you do not hold it!!!!

BTW.. If you were right that most israelis do not like them.. It would probably be becaus of the intense missionary activity there, which has been allowed by the israeli government.
Of course should dislike everybody that want to destroy  their Jewish Identity.
That is the right of self-determination.

English , Scottish, Welsh, Irish people have the same rights to preserve their heritage.

People who want to make White Brittons  into a  minority n their own country , are evil people and deserve hell.

People of European decent have no choice but supporting parties that want to defend the race, the culture, the history of the people of European continent.

Zionists should be striving for the same cause : to defend a Jewish State, and the Jewish people.

There is no difference in these struggles.

Have you guys seen these videos? http://jtf.org/forum_english/index.php?topic=16767.0

We Europeans have evil governments that want to destroy our Race and Culture, just as the Israeli government wants to destroy the Jewish State and People.

So, there must be a Nationalist or a pan-European group of people, that want to fight the muslims and african hordes out, and be in support of Israeli-right wing that want to crush the Arabs.
Turkey must get out of NATO. NATO must get out of Kosovo-Serbia. Croats must get out of Crajina. All muslims must get out of Christian and Jewish land. Turks must get out of Cyprus. Turks must get out of "Istanbul". "Palestinians" must get out of Israel. Israel must become independent from USA.