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Offline Raulmarrio2000

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Happy New Year!!!!!
« on: January 13, 2008, 12:15:48 PM »
Tonight is the beggining of the Julian New Year 2761 since the Foundation of Rome. I am not defending that the foundation of Rome is a good point to start the Calendar, but it's more neutral than the Gregorian Calendar. If we remember the Christian New Year, why not the Roman one? Happy 2761!!!!
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Re: Happy New Year!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2008, 02:46:41 PM »
  HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!! :) :) :)
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The whole system works because everyone is not mentally ill on the same day!!!!

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Re: Happy New Year!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2008, 04:05:41 PM »
January 1st is not only the date of Jesus' Bris. It was also the beggining of the Year according to the REAL Julian Calendar established by Emperor Julius Caesar in 46 BCE. Originally the Roman Calendar started in March, the month devoted to pagan idol Mars, the g.d of War, in which military campaigns started. When Julius Caesar adopted the Egyptian Calendar of 12 months, he decided to start the years 2 months before March to have time to plan the campaigns. So it is a civil Calendar. Tonight it would be a civil holiday in Rome (if the calendar had not been changed by Christians).
Dec 25th was the day of the sun rebirth, and Jan 1st, the beggining of the year. Later. Christians hijacked those popular dates and explained them according to their religion.
Orthodox Christians celebrate the New Year in spring, and Jesus' bris tonight. Ancient Rome celebrates New Year 2761 tonight, and Rome's aniversary on April 21th ( May 4th, 2008 of the Gregorian Calendar).
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Re: Happy New Year!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2008, 01:03:14 PM »
we already have a thread about the orthodox new year.:P but thanks for caring^^
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Re: Happy New Year!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2008, 03:59:54 PM »
Thanks MArio!

Thanks !
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Re: Happy New Year!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2008, 08:49:18 PM »
Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 14, 2008, 08:26:04 PM
Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 13, 2008, 02:45:31 PM
The Russian Orthodox Church actually counts The Julian Calendar starting in 5508 B.C.E. making this the year 7515. They say this was Creation even though The Jewish Calendar said it was in 3761 BCE. They count it from The Spring. The January New Year is only a festival marking the brit milah of Jesus.


Do Serbs also call the current year 7515 From Creation like Russians do?



Yes, we call it also like this.

A Serbian writer whom I know
calculates the years this Serbian (great) way.

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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Happy New Year!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2008, 10:27:41 PM »
Quote from: Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac) on January 14, 2008, 01:03:14 PM
we already have a thread about the orthodox new year.:P but thanks for caring^^

Yes, I know you have already a thread about the Orthdox New Year here. But I made the thread in general discussion about Roman New Year which in the same date, but the year is 2761. Some moderator moved it here. Don't know why.....
Anyway, Happy New Year to you all.
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Re: Happy New Year!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2008, 03:43:58 PM »
Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 14, 2008, 11:21:52 PM
Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on January 14, 2008, 10:27:41 PM
Quote from: Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac) on January 14, 2008, 01:03:14 PM
we already have a thread about the orthodox new year.:P but thanks for caring^^

Yes, I know you have already a thread about the Orthdox New Year here. But I made the thread in general discussion about Roman New Year which in the same date, but the year is 2761. Some moderator moved it here. Don't know why.....
Anyway, Happy New Year to you all.


I moved it here because The Serbs are the people on the forum that celebrate their New Year today. I didn't know they already had a New Year thread.



That was counting without Husar...

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"HUSSARORUM ALIAS RACOW"
"Hussar alias Rac (Serb)"

http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_hussars.html
"Hussar or gussar originally meant "a robber" in Serbian. These horsemen served not only under the Polish and Lithuanian colors but also under those of the Holy Roman Emperor;"
http://www.husaria.jest.pl/rys.html
"Bardzo prawdopodobne, że początek swego istnienia husarze zawdzięczają Serbom. Po klęsce na Kosowym Polu w roku 1389 wszędzie szukali okazji do pomsty na Turkach.
Jan Długosz zapisał pod rokiem 1463, że w bitwie nad Sawą bił się Cohors Raczanorum (oddział Raców - Serbów). Po śmierci króla Macieja Korwina Serbowie udali się do Polski, aby kontynuować walkę z Turkami po usarsku."
http://www.angelfire.com/mi4/polcrt/WingedHussar.html
"The hussar concept began in Serbia, near the end of the 14th century. In the 16th century, painted wings or winged claws began to appear on cavalry shields. Wings were originally attached to the saddle and later to the back. In 1645, Col. Szczodrowski was said to have used ostrich wings.
In 1500, the Polish Treasury books make reference to hussars. Early on, they were foreign mercenaries, and were called Racowie from "Rascia" a word meaning "of Serbia." They came from the Serbian state of Ras."
http://www.fanaticus.org/DBA/armiesofthefanatici/DarrenBuxbaum/LaterSerbs/
"Serbian Gussars"
http://ac.bondurand.com/liste332.htm
"Les serbes avaient reconnu la nécessité d'une cavalerie légère, (...) ils développèrent leur propre cavalerie légère, les GUSARS ou USARS, d'où sont venus les hussards."
http://www.armae.com/contemporain/144epeesetdagues.htm
"Originaires de Serbie, les hussards furent des cavaliers d'élite, connus surtout en Hongrie puis en France, et imités par la suite partout en Europe."
http://members.virtualtourist.com/m/1b772/a9330/
"The area around the present Zorinsk (Ukrainia) belonged to the Serb Hussar Major Vuyich at the end of the 18th century."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenije_III
" Arsenije III (...) was inaugurating new Serb infantry and hussar regiments that were sent to the ongoing war."
http://www.gatago.com/pl/sci/historia/19850502.html
"Jan Długosz pod rokiem 1463 napisał, że w bitwie nad Sawą, biły się
"Cohors Raczanorum" / Początki husarii w bitwie na Kulikowym Polu
w 1389 r."
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Re: Happy New Year!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2008, 12:53:29 PM »
Quote from: Husar on January 15, 2008, 03:43:58 PM
Quote from: Yacov Menashe Ben Rachamim on January 14, 2008, 11:21:52 PM
Quote from: Raulmarrio2000 on January 14, 2008, 10:27:41 PM
Quote from: Serbian Cetnik (šumadinac) on January 14, 2008, 01:03:14 PM
we already have a thread about the orthodox new year.:P but thanks for caring^^

Yes, I know you have already a thread about the Orthdox New Year here. But I made the thread in general discussion about Roman New Year which in the same date, but the year is 2761. Some moderator moved it here. Don't know why.....
Anyway, Happy New Year to you all.


I moved it here because The Serbs are the people on the forum that celebrate their New Year today. I didn't know they already had a New Year thread.



That was counting without Husar...

 :)

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