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Does Europe’s Holocaust Guilt Benefit the Islamists?

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mord:

--- Quote from: Ambiorix on January 30, 2008, 07:21:48 PM ---¿¿ Does anyone believe that the Holocaust is being misused as a tool to stab the Jews in the back??

1/ to link them with the gays that went to the death-camps. (Jews perceived as victims , just as (bad as ) gays, ...)
2/ to link them with muslims, that need to be destroyed here (but <<the Jews and their lobby want to help the muslims to destabilise the Western World>>
3/ to cultivate the idea of the <<good (but dead) eternal victim-Jew, the poor ...>>
and to link this with the bad and nazi Zionists of today that kill <<good (but dead) eternal victim-Palis>>,... just as Jews in the camps,...
4/ to revive the conspiracy-lies, the so-called protocols of Zion, the <<grip on the media>> and just many others,...
5/ by 1,2,3,4 to create new anti-semitism, in order to create a hostile atmosphere everywhere against Jews.

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Yes the Europeans use the Holocaust  as an excuse to allow moslems to do what they wish

EagleEye:
It's hard to say.  Some people view Muslims as an oppressed group, and others view them as similar to the nazis.  Because most countries have laws that prevent holocaust denial, I would say it is evident that the holocaust is a considered force in contemporary European politics.

Furthermore, "Europe" in general has no reason to feel guilty over the holocaust.  I reject the concept of "bystander guilt."  Only the countries who directly caused it should feel guilty.  I also reject the concept of generation-maintained guilt.  There is no reason Europeans today, even if they lived in countries that have a history with the holocaust, should still feel guilty.  We live in a new world.  There's no reason to judge countries based on the way they were over 60 years ago.  The memory of the holocaust should not be destroyed, but the new world should not be confused with the old one.

Logically "Europeans" should not think this way, but I would bet that quite a few have taken up this line of thought.  Too many people fall for appeals to pity over appeals to logic.  They are emotional and caring, therefore they are easily manipulated and controlled.  There are too many drama queens in the world, and there are too many weak lemmings in the world who don't challenge the status quo and allow emotion to override solid deductive reasoning.

Ulli:
The only lesson I learned from the holocaust is to try by my best to be righteous.

This ideologies, namely Nazism, Islam and Socialism pretend to build the best society on earth. But through them came and is coming nameless horror to the world.

We have to remember the millions over millions of murdered Jews and Gentiles.

If muslimes, who openly colloborated and are colloborating with Nazis during the years and today, call the people who stand against them Nazis, it is absurd.

Never again!

Ultra Requete:
Well I don't like the term European there's no such state, nation or race atleast yet.. It's like mixing Argentinians with Canadians becouse both are white and live in America. The mayority of nazis were European aside from A-rab ones; but they were more of them fighting against Shitler than for him... And Holocuast happened only in satelite countries or ocupied by III Reich, The Jews from Alied and neutral countries survived the war. If the Alies woud loose G-d forbid the Holocaust woud occur in US or Canada too...
Big buisness such as BASF former IG Farben, Duetche Bahn or Deutche Bank directly profited from Holocaust so they're still responible for their victims, And German state is legal contunuetor of nazi III Reich but bombing them after taking money woud be not fair. Hovewer not nazi Germans born after war are inocent.

BTW Islamists were and are nazi themselfs! who ever apologise them is creating new Holocaust and WW. And fragmented Germany as in before 1870 woud better for all its neighbours, Jews and Germans.       

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